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I'm with @PKRudeboy, they already have officially-and-literally-physics-breaking free energy from the Bleed.
Eh, I wouldn't take that as a given since they both break physics. The Bleed Generator that Paul made was apparently enough to power New York City. According to random Googling, New York used about 11,000 mWh of power per day in 2012. The Hoover Dam apparently produces about 4,000,000 mWh of power per year, or about 11,000 mWh per day. So, Paul's Bleed Generator is worth about one Hoover Dam.

It is really odd how well those figures lined up.

So, the question is, could this system produce as much power as the Hoover Dam? To which I say... probably? Water pressure at the bottom of the marianas trench is about 1000 times greater than at sea level, which is a fair bit higher than what you're going to get out of the Hoover Dam's water basin, to put it mildly. Combine it with some of the ultra strong metal coming out of Themyscira so you don't rip apart your turbine, and you're looking at a flow rate that likely dwarfs Hoover, requires next to no setup and can't run dry. Someone more familiar with fluid dynamics and bored out of their mind could calculate that if they want, though I'm guessing it's somewhere in the ballpark of "A Fuckton."
 
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Mr Zoat, excellent installment as usual, heart-wrenching in its own way with that same brand of hopefulness.

Where the 'S' of House El is marked on his chest plate because I have issues prioritising when merged with the Ophidian. Then she looks up at his face.
I like this part. Laugh-worthy, while also a reminder of why Paul doesn't go around and merge with the Ophidian. Because benefits, but also not.

"Kara." I step aside and he takes my place on her right. "I almost can't believe you're really here."

"Kal?" She looks up at him, not quite believing what she's seeing. Then her eyes drop. "Thirty four years. I remember you being a little-" Her arms shake as she tries to lift them, her hands moving to indicate a small object. "-baby."
I'm interested in learning more about how much they know about each other. And how much older/younger she is than him. Was she not a baby when she was put in her pod, did he know she was supposed to already have been saved, too?
 
If she starved during that time in her ship and got some nutrients, her biology didn't get suspended, right? So she should have also aged 34 years, unless this is some comic book plot hole where she's biologically a teen still even though she was not under proper suspended animation.
 
If she starved during that time in her ship and got some nutrients, her biology didn't get suspended, right? So she should have also aged 34 years, unless this is some comic book plot hole where she's biologically a teen still even though she was not under proper suspended animation.

Seems reasonable to me that instead of simply stopping her biology it slowed it down dramatically. Say, aging 1 year biologically despite the 34 year gap.
 
And probably an in-universe reason as well. Let's say... Continuous constant use messes the enchantments up?
There's a huge SAFETY issue, too. The reason that the Bleed torsion generator is safe is because failure of its mechanism causes the entire thing to shut down.

Meanwhile, if you've ever played Portal, you already know what happens if you set up a perpetual motion loop and then interrupt it: speedy object goes in, speedy object comes out. The payload goes flying.

There are three setups that come to mind to actually be ABLE to get the energy out.

The first setup would be to make the payload a magnet and pass it through a coil of wire. This one is efficient in terms of energy production, but if you're operating it in an atmosphere you're going to have to start dealing with Mach effects because there's no way there would be enough magnetic resistance to slow it down sufficiently. Eventually the payload is going to break the sound barrier and the shockwave is going to cause major problems to your setup. If it's in a vacuum, you don't have THAT particular problem; instead, you have to deal with Mach effects inside the payload itself from the magnetic eddy currents exceeding the speed of sound in the material of the payload. It tears itself apart.

The second setup would be a water wheel type of setup, where you send fairly heavy pellets through the gate so they fall into a bucket on a wheel. The wheel turns a generator, robbing the pellets of their kinetic energy, and at the bottom of the turn the pellet drops into a chute that goes back into the portal. The problem here is that you're really not generating that much power with it, so it wouldn't be game-breaking to implement it. So... sure, go ahead, do it. This one's actually pretty safe, because the failure mode is that the chute backs up. But it's not going to produce any more electricity than a similarly-sized hydroelectric generator.

The third setup that comes to mind is more clever: Put the two portals flat on the ground, both facing upward. When you drop something in, it will oscillate between the two portals in a parabolic path on each side, reaching zero velocity every time. Use the same magnetic system as the first one. This would be pretty efficient and reasonably safe because a portal failure means the payload only hits the ground with as much force as if it had been dropped from its maximum height. Putting some sort of shock absorber system below the payload (even just a splashdown pool will work) will help. However, it turns out that this isn't actually a generator, per se. It's more like a flywheel. It does a great job of converting mechanical energy into electrical energy, but every time the payload goes through the cycle it loses a little bit of momentum, until eventually it will come to rest floating in the portal. Then you have to take it out and drop it from maximum height again.

(A possible variation of the first scheme would be to use a parabolic trajectory instead of a linear one in order to get the same self-braking benefit. This one fails almost immediately because the projectile loses enough momentum to magnetic eddy currents (and if those aren't happening, you're not generating electricity) that it'll scrape the side of the coil and everything goes kaboom. So that one's actually NOT an option.)

So yeah, portal-based perpetual motion actually doesn't generate enough electricity to actually make it worth doing.
 
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I'm still angry at him for the emotional thing he did at Kon. he owes the kid a few birthday presents and a trip around the cave, at the very least.

Anyone else think so?

*Raises hand*
Well of course, but on the other hand it's rather hand to make up for not doing something that is no longer wanted; what are you meant to do exactly? You could do the thing, which in this case would be acting like a father, but that's not exactly something that people want now is it?
 
If a technical solution is a challenge you can go to almost any CS school offer about 50% market or .5 % of the net and get one delivered.
He's saying that offering early access means he has that much less time to go back and edit his work before posting it, so he doesn't want to offer early access. The money and the technicalities don't really appear to play into it.
 
It's horrifying how many of these I instantly identify.

Tuppence is the Tsundere.
Tia Sivanna is the Oujodere.
Melinoe is the Kamidere or the Himedere, while Eris certainly fits as a Kamidere
The Kuudere is almost certainly... Jade (forgot her name for a second there)
The Dandere is the dryad.
There is no active Yandere yet, but the girl of the double Ds Dana Dearden is probably the one that fits the trope better and we have not seen her being all over superman even though she has had the empowerment coins for a WHILE, so I can see her being on the first stages of Obsession for Paul /Orange Lantern and being nudged along the way by Zeus, because Zeus is a dick and he would get massive amounts of Fun by making the Hero that told his wife to divorce him to cheat on his own relationship (those coins are empowered by him right? wonder how "stable" she would be wearing an Orange Ring... probably not at all is the answer).
The Mayadere... uff Georgia Sivanna?... No don't think Georgia counts as an 'enemy' that was turned (The Mayadere is about a female enemy being fought several times and slowly falling for the hero and that hasn't happened with anyone yet). Georgia Sivanna is probably the Hinedere (the apparent combination of Kuudere and Himedere).


Alright, it took me a couple weeks, but I have finally caught up on this, and I have to ask one question or it will drive me insane. Apologies if it has been asked before.


Why has no one created a perpetual motion device with Dolmen Gates and harvested free energy from it?

According to its introduction in the story, Gates are not really limited by throughput and don't take any energy to operate. Getting energy out of them is as easy as setting up an exit higher than the entrance and using the free increase in potential energy. There's like a billion ways you could do this, but it's as simple as dropping an entrance into the ocean, running the inflow of water through a turbine and dumping the water back into the ocean. With two sets of Gates, the actual turbine could be located anywhere in the world, and you could run power lines through smaller, wire sized Gates to anywhere in the world, thus cutting out the need for thousands of tons of Orichalium.

So, why wasn't this one of the first applications? That's a genuine question. Am I missing something? Is there some fundamental magic law that this idea violates? Do Gates actually have limited throughput somehow? The latter seems unlikely, as the Gates supposedly work by existing in both locations or whatever, so it's not really transporting anything.

I must know. This has been driving me crazy since they were first introduced. :jackiechan:


You are late to the party, we argued about this when it happened in the plot, Also remember the guys from Atlantis have mini gates in their equipment that connects them to the ocean, so in a way it has already happened in the plot, just that its use is limited to 'cool' combat applications, not power generation.


Thank you, corrected.

Game balance.

And probably an in-universe reason as well. Let's say... Continuous constant use messes the enchantments up?


I don't think you should use technical limitations, just narrative ones. Dolmen gates can be used for perpetual motion machines, but only Atlantis can make them and give them maintenance, and they have little use for electricity under the sea (I can see them using a few to power some crap inside the dry rooms, but that's it), while surface nations are not prepared to use an energy source they have to constantly outsource its maintenance, to another nation... In the long term, it may happen, but by that point other technologies will be able to compete.
 
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Depends when he was looking at it. Remember, for Jor-El's entire life Krypton has had no interstellar travel. It's isolationist. So how has he even heard of Earth? Yes, he could probably have built a probe or two as a personal project and hidden the launches, but how would he know where to send them?

My theory (not yet canonised) is that he was working from images taken by probes deployed by the then-retired Kryptonian Stellar Navy. If so, the pictures would be from the 19th century, and not necessarily show the advanced parts of the world. The other alternative is that he built them for General Zod and took a copy of the results for himself, but that would still show Earth in the sixties at the latest. It's quite possible that it would have missed other aliens or scizotech.

Or he just had information from the colony that was on Earth centuries ago even before the winged ones created their empire on Egypt. And all the limited data he could get of modern Earth is that it was still there, yellow sunlight would make his son a DemiGod and the planet was still habitable.
 
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I wonder if like in canon Kara will be trained by Diana and other Amazons so she learns to control her new powers.
That's never made sense to me. I mean, other then Diana, none of the amazons have the fortitude to take even a single full powered punch from Kara. Barring that, what the hell can they teach her about heat vision, freeze breath, super senses, and all the rest?
 
Paul continues to suck at reading the mood, huh?

Actually he did quite well. He helped and offered more help. What else was he gonna do? Leave the three of them alone?

I mean Kon didn't want to leave and that, not without Kara being at least well in health.

Superman would have screwed up with just Kon and Kara there, because that's the kind of person he is on Young Justice.

And you know there is always the chance of Kara being trouble and he can deal with that without killing her.

Not to mention he has to browbeat Superman about not even asking his AI how to help Match.

Trust me, leaving the three alone is a horrible idea.

Heck Kon almost touched the black K and he has his blessing that almost killed them all already.

"Babysitting."

"What?"

"Conner, you almost killed us three times today. First because that AI wanting to kill you, then your blessing almost killing Kara and then almost touching the black kryptonite. So yes, I am babysitting you."
 
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Well it's good to see that supes has finally had long enough time to think his way into being more accepting of kon.
 
Not when she just gets out of the pod.

She's normally fifteen or sixteen when she lands on earth.

Supergirl the TV show and Supergirl the adventures in 8th grade are exceptions, not the rule.

When a supervillain diverted precrisis Supergirl to New Earth, she and the perpetually 15 Superboy were peers age wise.

You folks think this Kara has it tough, it could be worse.

Precrisis Kara landing in new Earth lands on an Earth that already has a Supergirl, in another universe, with an adult Kal-El who is not her cousin because she's not even the same species as native kryptonians.

The author's intention was for Supergirl, Power Girl, and Linda Danvers as Superwoman to make a high powered Birds of Prey equivalent.
That's never made sense to me. I mean, other then Diana, none of the amazons have the fortitude to take even a single full powered punch from Kara. Barring that, what the hell can they teach her about heat vision, freeze breath, super senses, and all the rest?

Actually it is perfectly normal for every amazon to be capable of tanking a punch from Superman.

Precrisis, Diana's powers were learned psychic powers she got from Amazon school just like every other Amazon. Orana, the replacement Wonder Woman, died because she wasn't quite as good at deflecting bullets with her bracelets. Despite that, she still defeated Diana in combat.

Post crisis, every first generation Amazon was made from clay. They can break metal with their bare hands, tank hits from kryptonians, parry bullets, and shoot fighter jets out of the sky with bow and arrow.

Hell, Wonder Woman TV show, all Amazons are super powered.

Nameless Amazon number three, if confronted with an average New God opponent, would probably rip his arm off and then beat him to death while asking "Why are you hitting yourself? Huh? Huh?"

Zoat's useless crap rendition of Amazons are not the norm.
 
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