With Grace and Elegance Ranma 1/2 / Girls und Panzer
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Which would be boring for the statuette. Ranma's reactions are no doubt at least half the reason it keeps messing with her.
No one said it would be fast or easy. Just that it might end up helping somehow.
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Most things people, especially teens, find 'fun' are more about the people you're with than what you're doing. Rin's respecting Ranma's boundaries better than just about anybody from their* manga/anime.
*With the nature of Ranma's curse, I expect, in modern times, they'd insist on "they" as their pronoun of choice. It applies regardless of form, after all, but I'm not sure how much Japanese culture has accepted this shift.
Are you British, or just read a lot of British stories? "Bum" is one of those that really helps narrow down a writer's accent.
As the wise knight, Sir Mix-a-lot stated, there's no such thing
I once had a ~15yo girl come running up to her mother, who I was helping, because her crush was coming into the store. She asked me if her shoes were alright, and I said, "Honey, if he notices you're wearing shoes, he's probably not interested in dating girls." It takes a while for guys to learn, and too many never do, that it doesn't matter what you think, or how little, of their clothes, complement something. Always complement the woman, criticize the clothing. Simple rules that will make your life easier.
Very few characters in that show are not a parody of something, so Tofu is really the best of the bunch simply by being quirky but nice so long as Kasumi isn't there.
Mature men tend to appeal the most to girls during the age where their bodies are reaching the end of puberty and the boys are still catching up. Having that process happen at different ages can be a bit awkward for a while. Older guys are also safe to have a crush on, because(with some rare* but horrible exceptions) they won't act on whatever the girl is feeling.
*Admittedly nowhere near rare enough, but this is a subject I try to avoid because of being too passionate about it, so that's all I'll say here.
Frankly, the pig needed his bacon saved more often...
I don't like Ryouga as a character. You clearly disagree, but it's hard to make him true to the core of canon(without the caricature of character implicit in the style of the story) while also being likeable. Genma's Daughter is one of the few that managed it for me.
The commas here are extraneous and should go away, though I can see why you put them there. Punctuation can be tricky in English.
Hasn't she already seen him on board once? Regardless, "boats" are only an issue with some versions of his direction sense.
That was completely expected.
Ranma, you need to understand how cats think. For them, acknowledging somebody and turning away is a way of showing trust and inviting reciprocal gestures. This is why cats often gravitate to the humans who least want them around, If you really want to drive a cat away, treat it as if it were the most adorable puppy you'd ever seen. El Goonish Shive - 2003-01-28
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Oh, something I forgot for my last post: In Puella Magi Adfligo Systema , tea snobs keep knocking people for using tea bags. At one point, the quest protagonist shocks one of said snobs out of a near catatonic state by announcing that she's going to microwave her tea, as it had cooled too much while waiting for her to respond to whatever the topic was. The juxtaposition with your story where tea always comes in a bag amuses me.
The disconnect between Yin/Yang and the many ways it comes up without the characters ever really addressing it is one of the perplexing writing choices for the original series. The Hiryou Shoten Ha is pretty much a direct yin/yang analogue, yet that mastering those energies within Ranma's self might permit taking their art to a new level never seems to occur to them, though that, arguably, may be what happened at Jusendo against Saffron.
Ryoga seems to have better luck when aiming for a person than when aiming for a place.
AKA "She's Ranma".
I wrote a scene for a story that never happened where Ranma is told they'll never be free of their curse: Genma Saotome would always be their father. After all, almost every last curse Ranma picks up can be traced to Genma's stupidity.
It being a scroll Happosai would like does not mean it had martial techniques on it, though it could be like when Genma and Soun misread a location offering training in the "marital arts". That got them Konatsu in Nerima, so wasn't a complete bust.
A large part of where this is likely to go depends on what the Neko-ken actually is. If it is a spirit sealed inside of Ranma rather than a phobia, then yes, this statue and the Neko-ken are likely to make a bigger impact in the pages to come. It could be big, it could be just a fun tzchotsky.
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Grounders10
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But it doesn't?
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Honestly, I feel ya when it comes to writing. I should be writing significantly more than just wandering and fleshing out individual scenes (and forgetting to write down what happens in them).
Still, always a good day when you have a Grounders chapter to finish it off with :}
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Every scene you've had with them drinking tea, you've commented on the saucer being there for people who want to pull the tea bag out once their tea has steeped the right amount, at least when the description is more than, "had tea. Ruby red is nice." You may not have done this intentionally, but it did still happen, unless I'm talking to a different world's version of you, and the story I read is not the one in the world I''ve wandered into.
It would be nice to be able to choose when I did things like that, and to be able to select destinations...
Admittedly, I'd like to try that tea. I looked it up and it doesn't contain the common teas I least like, oolong and chamomile, so I might enjoy it.
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I actually introduced Grounders to that tea, for the purposes of the story, Tea Profiling peoples personalities is a fun pastime for me. Ruby Red, is also one of the Teas I am rather fond of.
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Huzzah, more tank goodness. The lure of the tank is too strong.
Curious if Rin like Ranma, it was only a one off but the comment about there being a boy Ranma may like or whatever and her voice being a bit off was interesting. Unless it was just "srsly, only one guy from an entire HS?" But my trope knowledge of girls only schools in anime would imply her own romantic feelings on the matter!
Curious if Rin like Ranma, it was only a one off but the comment about there being a boy Ranma may like or whatever and her voice being a bit off was interesting. Unless it was just "srsly, only one guy from an entire HS?" But my trope knowledge of girls only schools in anime would imply her own romantic feelings on the matter!
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There have been hints that Rin might be interested in Ranma, but it's hard to say how much of that is intentional, on Grounders part, because girls chatting tend to include so many things that can be interpreted multiple ways that, without actually having a chance to hear them, it's hard to judge. The loss of inflection tends to matter less when it's guys chatting, though it is still an issue that can lead to readers and writers interpreting the exact same words in very different ways.
Grounders' protagonists tend to read as bi, but none of their stories I've read actually gets far enough for that to be clarified. That's probably the thing I most dislike of their writing is that they tend to spread themselves out instead of deepening stories, but it's a problem I can live with. If not, I wouldn't be here, reading this, and chatting with the forum. It's not like I have any money to pay them to keep writing.
Canon Ranma reads, to me, as either asexual(potentially trauma induced) or heterosexual for whatever form they're in. When Kuno first flirts with Ranma's girl side, she's very conflicted about the feelings she experiences... until she gets to know Kuno better and shuts the door on those thoughts. Hard. Then nails it shut. Then pushes a boulder in front of the door , and tries to forget it ever existed.
As for this story, I'm not enamored of the cross, don't care about the tanks, but I find Grounders' characterization and story telling rewarding enough to ignore that detail.
It's Kuno. That reaction is perfectly natural and completely sane. I would have worried about anyone that did not have that reaction.
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Hey, he managed to be charming for a full five minutes, then left before he could break that illusion. Shows how much he liked his 'pig tailed girl'
It doesn't seem like the whole weight of being a girl for the long term has really been accepted by Ranma, otherwise they wouldn't necessarily consider that someone could fall for thier guy side when currently only 3 people have seen ranma as male but not for a few months now.
Though i am hopeful for further ranma characters pop in.
Though i am hopeful for further ranma characters pop in.
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I'm still not entirely sure why Ranma is outwardly uninterested in sensha-do.
This is the same guy/girl who said "If it has the word 'martial' in it, I can master it!" You'd think she would be all over learning a new art, especially one so different from everything else she has learned -- Unlike all the other styles, sensha-do is centered around teamwork
This is the same guy/girl who said "If it has the word 'martial' in it, I can master it!" You'd think she would be all over learning a new art, especially one so different from everything else she has learned -- Unlike all the other styles, sensha-do is centered around teamwork
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It's not about using your body. Even the most ridiculous styles Ranma faced were people wielding common objects in unusual ways. Some of the things said so far suggests that Ranma actually using her martial arts in the context of a Sensha-do match would be against the rules. On the other hand, one recurring theme of the series was finding out a way to cheat around the rules to win when Ranma clearly shouldn't have been able to.
She'll clearly get involved. That's not even a hint of a question. She's just worried about what her mother and grandmother would think*, and that announcing she's even mildly interested would get her trapped in a life-long commitment to the art. That's how life in Nerima tended to work for her, after all.
*At this point, Ranma's response to any opinion expressed by Genma would boil down, "Go sodomize yourself with a sake bottle, idiot."
Also, my pronouns for Ranma shift because I'm trying to stick to "they" or "him" when talking about canon, and "she" when referring specifically to this story. That's how he referred to himself in canon, and how she's referring to herself here.
I think you might have an answer to your own question, there.
Importantly, while sensha-do isn't the first martial art with heavy feminine coding that Ranma's gotten involved in, it's the first one where he's required to form lasting relationships with other girls in order to participate; Ranma's always been much more willing to engage in public feminine behaviors when he can discard the persona he was wearing at the time later, and that's not really possible with sensha-do.
This actually ties into the Kuno discussion; Ranma spends quite a bit of time going around hitting on guys, but outside that one time with the love curse, he's only up for it when he controls the entire encounter and can break it off at will. Kuno (and Mikado) getting up in his face makes him uncomfortable, especially because he's not entirely disinterested, and that means when they proceed to do something that gives him an excuse to be angry, he goes all in on that.
I don't think anyone has realised/mentioned in the story that legally, since Ranma is now considered female by the state, the engagement between Ranma and Akane is no longer valid. Unless this is an alternate universe version of Japan where same sex marriage is legal, Ranma is hecked if they ever want to marry a girl.
The idiot Fathers have clearly failed to realise this based on their previous actions. No joining of the schools for you Tendo-baka!
(Lets avoid the whole gender/sexuality "discussion" please)
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The negation of almost all of their arranged marriages would definitely be something Ranma would approve of. The fathers and fiancées aren't likely to stop trying, though.
We are talking about the Otou-baka-tachi here. Their ability to comprehend the fact that their little retirement plan is impossible is so low, we are starting in the negative and digging to find it.
Same for the female portion of the Nerima Wrecking Crew. The only one that might just have no problem with laws regarding this is Shampoo, and that is only because, as far as I remember, we do not know the view her tribe has on Same-Sex couples. Nevermind the fact that they would not really care about how Ranma is classified in Japan, considering they are in backwoods China and seem to believe their law applies outside of their territory for some strange reason.
Same for the female portion of the Nerima Wrecking Crew. The only one that might just have no problem with laws regarding this is Shampoo, and that is only because, as far as I remember, we do not know the view her tribe has on Same-Sex couples. Nevermind the fact that they would not really care about how Ranma is classified in Japan, considering they are in backwoods China and seem to believe their law applies outside of their territory for some strange reason.
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Ukyou could be good legal wise, given how I'm willing to bet that Principal Kuno changed all her papers to have registered as a boy
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To be fair, the original fight between Ranma and Shampoo occurred in their village. This made them foreigners committing crimes in a foreign country. It doesn't seem to occur to Ranma that going to the Japanese consulate might offer some options, but you can't just ignore a law broken in another country simply because you are back in your home country.
A lot of Ranma 1/2 makes a lot more sense if you assume the broader world of weird martial arts and magic is large enough and influential enough that it gets actual quasi-formal carveouts to mundane legal principles (otherwise all of the engagements and the seppuku contract could have been trivially nullified, the dojo destroyer could have been simply ignored, etc). We see hints of that in the Ryugenzawa arc but not much explicit.
Of course, the inciting event of this fic runs directly counter to that theory.
Of course, the inciting event of this fic runs directly counter to that theory.
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The village is within China's borders, but that does not mean that it has no say on laws within it, particularly when you consider how much raw power warriors of those local tribes are, and how old some of the leaders of them are. They could very well have their own treaties with greater China that would become involved if Ranma tried to get the Japanese Consulate involved with negotiating a resolution to his issues with the Joketsuzoku, Phoenix, etc. peoples of that area. It could be similar to the US's own laws and treaties regarding Native American reservations.
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I think several people are thinking much harder than they need to about things that were set up for slapstick comedy.