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What if Sigmar replaced the God Emperor of Mankind?

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I appreciate that this AU does accept the fact that for better and worse, without the Imperium to break them, the Rangdan and the Orks would have a thunderdome for the fate of the galaxy.
 
It occurs to me that the Dark Eldar might work better as a Skaven equivalent than a Dark Elf equivalent here. The webway having entrances & exits all throughout the galaxy works as an equivalent to the Undermpire being basically everywhere under the surface, and the Drukhari going hard in on the Halfborn would allow them to go for Skaven-esque quantity. They already have the fucked up hierarchies and back-stabbing. They're missing an equivalent to the Great Horned Rat, but a) we could easily create one for them if we feel it neccesary, and b) they don't need to be a perfect 1-to-1 analogue so it doesn't matter anyway.
 
Would it be more interesting to have Halo Devices be something created by the Rangdan to cultivate humans for some purpose, or a less-than-successful attempt by some Necrons/Necrontyr to achieve immortality without biotransferance? They could also be something else, or not important to this AU, of course.
 
Geedubs said:
Would it be more interesting to have Halo Devices be something created by the Rangdan to cultivate humans for some purpose, or a less-than-successful attempt by some Necrons/Necrontyr to achieve immortality without biotransferance? They could also be something else, or not important to this AU, of course.
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I kinda prefer to keep the mysteries separate, it's a big galaxy.
 
Geedubs said:
Would it be more interesting to have Halo Devices be something created by the Rangdan to cultivate humans for some purpose, or a less-than-successful attempt by some Necrons/Necrontyr to achieve immortality without biotransferance? They could also be something else, or not important to this AU, of course.
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The Halo Devices are probably just the equivalent of simple bionics for a species we don't know about.
 
Sure, but play with me in this space for a moment. We don't have to follow up on these concepts, not using Halo Devices for anything is always an option, but I am trying to think of interesting ways to use them.

I was thinking that the first option would have Halo Device'd Humans be a HQ choice for a hypothetical Rangdan tabletop army, while the latter could lead to them being a sort of Strigoi undead equivalent to the Necron's Tomb Kings undead equivalent.


Also, I'd much prefer people contributing their own ideas to the project instead of just popping in to reject mine. :V
 
I mean, I think that "Unknown species on the edge of the galaxy that considers immortality and extreme body-warping the equivalent of a prosthetic arm" is a cool idea, but whatever.
 
Geedubs said:
I was thinking that the first option would have Halo Device'd Humans be a HQ choice for a hypothetical Rangdan tabletop army, while the latter could lead to them being a sort of Strigoi undead equivalent to the Necron's Tomb Kings undead equivalent.
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Strigoi or even wendigo equivalent would be an interested shock troop choice.
 
What if the big non-Ork, non-Rangdan (and possible non-Necron) power in the east wasn't the Tau or Macragge, but the Kroot? They got their intelligence & tech from assimilating Orkoid DNA, and if we have more-intelligent-Orks as the dominant power in their region... well, the Kroot advancing even further even faster seems believable.
 
Since it's less wartorn than canon and I was reading through Nobledark Imperium I just had an idea for something in universe

Deathwatch-intro
A cinematic universe first started up as a shared project of a few independent creators scattered throughout the Imperium,Mars and the various Eldar groups(ranging from the Path of the Actor on a few Craftworlds,a few troupes on the Asur empire and some Asrai stage groups) Deathwatch's early works had high popularities but a combination of high production value,some interesting cultural synergy and a really good movie that tied phase one together created a intergalactic sensation that had Eldar youth getting into imperial holo theatres while Archmagos frantically tracked the available times of various Eldar acting troupes. Extremly serious but funny Deathwatch also covers the various societal stereotypes and worries many of the different societies have
Major movies/productions

The road to Silva Tenebris
This movie establishes the Mechanicus characters in Deathwatch who are part of a expedition to the Silva Tenebris system which has Dark Age of Technology sites and find themselves in a war against the absolutely insane Nepheresh Dynasty. Notable characters are below

Faustinius: A 800 year old tech priest(in fact it's a running gag in later movies where a large portion of the younger Eldar characters complain about him bossing them around only for the older/more experienced ones to reveal that he is much older than they are) who has served honorably in protecting his native forge World but was sadly often given the least prestigous assignments in the Mechanicus until he got his big break in a Silva Tenebris expedition and know has to deal with unhinged subordinates,incredibly large amounts of danger and a never ending backlog of unknown relics which everyone wants. Faustinus character is one that reflects the experience of actual Expedition Fleet leaders where often the biggest danger is not a Abominable Intelligence but nearly running out of fuel on account of a subordinate replacing the duel supply with a supply of archeotech or having to deal with the most idiotic bueracratic fights in existence
 
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Something that just occurred to me is that, in line with how the Sigmar-perium is kinda just the hundred different sectors of Segmentum Sol and change as a more sustainable and gradual and tied together series of sub-states and fantasy Empire provinces and free cities in space, the higher government of the Imperium outside of the Imperial court of Emperor Ioannes Schmidt IX is probably gonna be really interesting. The Empire only has 15-ish Elector-Counts and such, nominally in line with having the non-traitor titles of Legion Primarchs and more broadly just having much the same High Lords as also the viziers and council of state around the Emperor, buuuut, in bumping that up to proper space opera monumental size and grandeur for the Imperium means I think pulling some Dune Landsraad and CHAOM stuff.

The thousand envoys of the ten thousand lords of the half million-ish worlds of the Imperium Solar; a Rogue Trader and a Navigator Scion talking shop with a Merchant Potentate as a Chirurgeon-General nervously jostled the elbow of a Matriarch of the Selenar as they debated a Warrior Lodge Grandmaster all as a Knight Seneschal snuck into the chambers before the Lord Chancellor finished calling them up on the rolls. High Lords still show up from time to time as grand statesmen monopolizing offices and networks of power, I think, just that they also have to occasionally whip up further acclamations and such from the high command and the corps of all imperial general officers behind them, to stay Lord Commander Militant and thrice-selected Warmaster, and so on and so on. To do bad pseudolatin and Gothic-ify it and steal from some of the RL history of the Holy Roman Empire call it the Comitium Imperialis, the legal and quasi-legal heirs of Sigmar's Ten Thousand Companions, assembled in spiritual synods or judicial conclaves or most often in the Perpetual Diet of Terra (the one filled with the thousand thousand pilgrim-lordlings and patrician adepts of the Throneworld that often speak over the more provincial interests of more distant stars).

Actually hell, you further complicate things by setting out separate benches and chambers all House of Lords and Magnium Concilium-y and as also somewhat sub-legislatures and deliberative bodies in of themselves, the like Lords Spiritual of the Comitium as a select convocation of the Synod of Luminaries(?) on Ophelia VII, the collective leadership body of all such hero-cults and templar-brotherhoods and sectarian churches granted the Writ Illuminat by the Confederation of Light as Chaos-free and sanctified faiths. This also lets in Votann Prospect Fleets or like Ratling Undermoots or just like the Worshipful Company of Goxhandlers and Victualers and etc... come into the Diet's deliberations with some of the more bribable Lords of the Imperium as their proxies.

thoughts?
 
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Looks good, byzantine politics is awesome and the fun names of the lords help.


My suggestion would be not just say all of the east is Orks. There probably should be smaller fortresses and carvan routes and crusades.

Its more a wild west than a mass of orks, more like the badlands.
 
if the great orkiod empires are a wild west for humans & friends, that must mean say, little desert settlements kicking up to the gobbo desperados and corrupt orc sheriffs that rule the frontier, no? Ogyrn space-ogre Overtyrants, Ratling space-hobbit Master Chefs, space-werewolf Wulfen and mad max Digga tribes and Hive gangers etc..., all semi-integrated at various levels within the hierarchies of WAAAGH, absolutely horrid and terrifying to the Sigmarites for the reversal turning everything upside down with non-mutant humanity put at the very bottom to slave away for *gasp* alien warlords and despots.
 
I kind of want the Olamic Quietude to be an Araby/Ind fusion, potentially as a distinct and unusal offshoot of the mechanicus, where they use Machine-Jinn and have ton of holdover stuff from the DaoT, but instead of the machine god, they have a polytheist take on techno-fetishism.
 
The red priests are already pretty Gnostic to start, the Quietude as like Sufi lodges dismissing the false humanocentric and idolatrous conceptions of the Omnissiah centered on the Sigmar-led imperial pantheon and the God-Machine Titans and the Motive Force and whatnot, embracing the Machine God as an even more abstract divinity of the light of consciousness and the principles of celestial mechanics, then expressed in a hundred different schools of philosophy and cults of lesser prophets and avatars and etc...? As the Votann are vaguely related to the spoopy pre-history of the Men of Stone, so too are the Quietude a somehow connected to the philosophies the Iron Men would carry with them into the Cybernetic Revolt and their own true Omnissiah?
 
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