War and Racketeering; An Easy Guide

[Taut_Templar]

[X] Plan Full Build

 

[brmj]

@King50000 Want to at least add the motor shop to your plan? That seems pretty essential for keeping a fleet of technicals and such up and running, and you've certainly got the budget for it without even really cutting into your plan's month and a half of fortifying our base instead of building.

 

[King50000]

@King50000 Want to at least add the motor shop to your plan? That seems pretty essential for keeping a fleet of technicals and such up and running, and you've certainly got the budget for it without even really cutting into your plan's month and a half of fortifying our base instead of building.

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I've added that plus an expanded yard, so that we can have a sizable fleet of technicals when the time comes.

Adhoc vote count started by King50000 on Aug 1, 2018 at 8:07 PM, finished with 29 posts and 13 votes.

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  7 people have voted

  [X] Plan Full Build
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue: Select any building below, which will be added the queue. Up to 2,000,000 of buildings can be constructed in a single turn.
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  ---[X] Motor Shop: 150,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Engineer School: 1,000,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • Captain.Cat
  • butchock
  • natruska
  • CthuluWasRight
  • Taut_Templar
  • Random Paul
  • brmj

  5 people have voted

  [X] Plan Getting Started
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue:
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Grill, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  ---[X] Motor Shop: 150,000
  ---[X] Expanded Yard: 20,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • King50000
  • gutza1
  • globalwarmth
  • Night_stalker
  • Soverihn

  1 people have voted

  [X] Plan Getting Started
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue:
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Grill, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • Valerian

Adhoc vote count started by King50000 on Aug 1, 2018 at 8:20 PM, finished with 30 posts and 14 votes.

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  7 people have voted

  [X] Plan Full Build
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue: Select any building below, which will be added the queue. Up to 2,000,000 of buildings can be constructed in a single turn.
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  ---[X] Motor Shop: 150,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Engineer School: 1,000,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • Captain.Cat
  • butchock
  • natruska
  • CthuluWasRight
  • Taut_Templar
  • Random Paul
  • brmj

  6 people have voted

  [X] Plan Getting Started
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue:
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Grill, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  ---[X] Motor Shop: 150,000
  ---[X] Expanded Yard: 20,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • King50000
  • gutza1
  • globalwarmth
  • Night_stalker
  • Soverihn
  • Himmelhand

  1 people have voted

  [X] Plan Getting Started
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue:
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Grill, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • Valerian

Adhoc vote count started by King50000 on Aug 1, 2018 at 9:07 PM, finished with 32 posts and 16 votes.

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  8 people have voted

  [X] Plan Full Build
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue: Select any building below, which will be added the queue. Up to 2,000,000 of buildings can be constructed in a single turn.
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  ---[X] Motor Shop: 150,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Engineer School: 1,000,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • Captain.Cat
  • butchock
  • natruska
  • CthuluWasRight
  • Taut_Templar
  • Random Paul
  • Dwergar
  • brmj

  7 people have voted

  [X] Plan Getting Started
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue:
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Grill, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  ---[X] Motor Shop: 150,000
  ---[X] Expanded Yard: 20,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • King50000
  • gutza1
  • globalwarmth
  • Night_stalker
  • Soverihn
  • Himmelhand
  • Sarpedon

  1 people have voted

  [X] Plan Getting Started
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue:
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Grill, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • Valerian

 

[Random Paul]

[X] Plan Full Build

 

[Himmelhand]

[X] Plan Getting Started

 

[Sarpedon]

[X] Plan Getting Started

 

[Dwergar]

[X] Plan Full Build

 

[RandomMan01]

[X] Plan Getting Started

 

[Doctor Elsewhere]

[X] Plan Getting Started

 

[natruska]

Why so many votes for Getting Started? No reason to waste construction time, we've got plenty of cash to splash.

 

[Himmelhand]

Getting Started sinks unused construction time into base defenses. Since we're already rumbling with tax collectors it's good to be prepared for unfriendly visitors.

 

[brmj]

As it stands, baring a few small items, the real difference between the plans is that mine gives us an engineering school, and theirs gives us whatever fortifications we can make in a month and a half. I am of the opinion that at this stage, there is very, very little we could defeat with fortifications around our base but not without them, since our contras would be stretched really thin and we've got nothing heavier than rifles, and that if anyone does find our base and report on it, that's probably the end anyway because Zimbabwe has armor and an air force, and we don't even really have the logistics yet to flee all at once with any real hope of making it out. However, other people may view it as planning ahead for a time when holding off an attack might be possible and useful, and attacks are more likely to actually happen.

As for why an engineering school in particular, not only does the cost fit in well around the essentials (a big plus), but it also will allow us to expand our construction capabilities, improving the speed at which we can improve our base, but more crucially giving us the potential to get to make a real dent in improving the rural infrastructure locally, which I think ought to be a big part of our plan for both unfucking our logistics and winning over the neighbors.

Adhoc vote count started by brmj on Aug 1, 2018 at 11:43 PM, finished with 38 posts and 19 votes.

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  10 people have voted

  [X] Plan Getting Started
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue:
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Grill, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  ---[X] Motor Shop: 150,000
  ---[X] Expanded Yard: 20,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • King50000
  • gutza1
  • globalwarmth
  • Night_stalker
  • Soverihn
  • Himmelhand
  • Sarpedon
  • RandomMan01
  • Doctor Elsewhere
  • Valerian

  9 people have voted

  [X] Plan Full Build
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue: Select any building below, which will be added the queue. Up to 2,000,000 of buildings can be constructed in a single turn.
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  ---[X] Motor Shop: 150,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Engineer School: 1,000,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • Captain.Cat
  • butchock
  • natruska
  • CthuluWasRight
  • Taut_Templar
  • Random Paul
  • Dwergar
  • StarkDemise
  • brmj

 

[StarkDemise]

[X] Plan Full Build

 

[gutza1]

[X] Plan Full Build

 

[brmj]

Tally.

Edit: Not complaining about my plan being in the lead by 1 vote, but that's close enough that I figure a little more discussion would not go amiss. It worries me to have a vote this close and little meaningful discussion over it, with probably days left before the cutoff. Feels like asking for trouble.

Adhoc vote count started by brmj on Aug 4, 2018 at 3:04 AM, finished with 40 posts and 19 votes.

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  10 people have voted

  [X] Plan Full Build
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue: Select any building below, which will be added the queue. Up to 2,000,000 of buildings can be constructed in a single turn.
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  ---[X] Motor Shop: 150,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Engineer School: 1,000,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • Captain.Cat
  • butchock
  • natruska
  • CthuluWasRight
  • Taut_Templar
  • Random Paul
  • Dwergar
  • StarkDemise
  • gutza1
  • brmj

  9 people have voted

  [X] Plan Getting Started
  -[X] Develop Local Contacts
  -[X] Add to Build Queue:
  --[X] Barracks: 50,000
  --[X] Mess Hall: 30,000
  --[X] Clinic, 20 beds: 80,000
  ---[X] Clinic expansion, 40 beds: 120,000
  --[X] Armory: 100,000
  ---[X] Explosives Shop: 50,000
  ---[X] Heavy Weapons Shop: 80,000
  --[X] Drill Field: 5,000
  ---[X] Gym: 20,000
  ---[X] Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Explosives Range: 15,000
  ---[X] Shot House: 25,000
  ---[X] Long Range: 10,000
  ---[X] Crew Served Weapon Range: 10,000
  --[X] Bar, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Grill, 20 seats: 30,000
  --[X] Motor Pool: 100,000
  ---[X] Motor Shop: 150,000
  ---[X] Expanded Yard: 20,000
  -[X] Dorrier Farbach

  • King50000
  • globalwarmth
  • Night_stalker
  • Soverihn
  • Himmelhand
  • Sarpedon
  • RandomMan01
  • Doctor Elsewhere
  • Valerian

 

[Valerian]

Very little information to work with.

Waiting for the contacts to deliver a report and events to move forward.

As it stands, base building just isn't that controversial when we literally have no idea what we face in terms of opposition.

 

[Dwergar]

I thought that both plans included more barracks?

 

[brmj]

I thought that both plans included more barracks?

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They do. The tally script ignores the duplicates, I think.

 

[Dwergar]

S0, what would be a convenient way to mark number of times we take a particular option?

 

[brmj]

S0, what would be a convenient way to mark number of times we take a particular option?

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"[ ] Barracks x 3" or the like, perhaps? For this vote, though, just referencing the original plan is probably viable.