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Aleh said:
There's a reasonably humorous/parodic Arabic joke in there which people probably missed -- and which will be followed by several more shortly.

It also emphatically does not mean "ship-builder".

Edit: Anyway, the next scene very well may render this one redundant... and probably can be written that way. Any thoughts on reducing the above to omake status?
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Depends on how redundant if it's told from Bmans POV, then yeah. Also, this just hit me. The Batman has a batman.
 
cupcakeviolater said:
Depends on how redundant if it's told from Bmans POV, then yeah. Also, this just hit me. The Batman has a batman.
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The next scene has Batman scoping out the pet-shop (literally -- binoculars) and meeting Ra's. It'd be easy enough to include everything (other than the movie night bit anyway) in their conversation.
 
Hmm... then it is a bit redundant. The question. Is is it worth the effort to make it into an omake when it's already written and there. Your fic, your choice.
 
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It really doesn't matter, honestly. It's already posted. If you think that it would fit better as an omake, then change it.
 
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Interlude, Part One
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    • Those of you who've read the previous scene, sorry -- this renders it somewhat redundant, narratively speaking, and so I'm reducing that to omake status. That said, enjoy!

    Any thoughts on the comparison/change are welcome, by the way.



    Interlude: Batman (Part One)

    "I see you've noticed as well, Detective."

    Batman lowered his binoculars, turning to face the man who had silently joined him on the ledge he'd perched on. "Ra's," he acknowledged.

    "I suppose I should have expected you to come," the ancient mastermind allowed. "Something like this could hardly happen in your baliwick without notice."

    "No," the cowled crimefighter flatly answered. "It couldn't."

    "Would you care to join me in investigating?" The question was asked simply and genuinely, if in Ra's's usual reservedly sinister manner.

    A simple raised eyebrow was enough to answer.

    "I would appreciate the assistance, Detective."

    "Where's Ubu? I don't think I've ever seen you without him."

    Ra's shook his head. "Come now, Detective. Do you really think that I would send Ubu or Talia into there?"

    The caped crusader briefly chuckled. "Rather than go into danger yourself? In a heartbeat."

    "There are dangers and dangers, Detective," the ancient assassin chided. "I've sent many agents, including many of my most loyal. Every one of them has... changed, leaving me -- betraying me. They've even sent me resignation letters."

    Batman smirked.

    "One does not simply leave the Society of Shadows! No, this... pet shop... must answer to me. This challenge cannot go unanswered." Ra's smirked. "Will you help me, Detective?"

    "Of course not," the costumed crimefighter deadpanned. "However, if the store really is using some kind of mind-control on your agents, I still need to stop them."

    Ra's nodded, fingering his cloak. "That is... acceptable," he allowed.

    "Whoever this is, it's part of a plan of some kind," Gotham's dark knight stated. "My first priority is finding out what."

    "I can sympathize," the venerable Shadow agreed. "I have heard... rumors, fragments... that he serves some kind of... demon, who he seeks to revive."

    "A demon?"

    "Many things have been called 'demons' over the years," Ra's allowed, "including myself. I am usually less concerned with the truth of what they are than how to stop them."

    "I could see that."

    Indeed he could. Ra's was, for all of his willingness to kill, genuinely concerned with the welfare of the world and its people. Batman could not fault Ra's's goals in many ways. His means, of course, were another matter entirely.

    And so, two enemies calmly discussed their upcoming invasion of what appeared to be a simple pet-shop: the League of Show-Dogs, Pets and Supplies.
     
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    • So, if I have the grasp of your SI's power correctly, he can (through the use of Kaleidoscope) 'become' any of a large number of parody characters? Ooh, does that mean that since Deadpool is an obvious parody of Deathstroke, he can become Deadpool!?!?
     
    i think that if he became deadpool mhe would not be able to change back, afeter all tll now everything that is an image of deadpool becomes deadpool
     
    cupcakeviolater said:
    So, if I have the grasp of your SI's power correctly, he can (through the use of Kaleidoscope) 'become' any of a large number of parody characters?
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    Close, in a way. He doesn't actually use the Kaleidoscope, though.

    What his power does allow him to do is give him a counter-form for each hero/villain/costumed individual in the setting. Each of these is capable of going head-to-head or toe-to-toe with the character they're designed to counter... to a point, at least... and are generally parodies of them.

    This doesn't mean that they are stronger, or better, and they're generally both silly and embarrassing. It also doesn't mean that they constitute an "I win" button against their more... sane... counterparts.

    Take Two-Face, for instance. If you notice, my SI briefly considered his counter-form (Flip-Flop) during that confrontation. Now, while Flip-Flop would have been able to deal with Two-Face alone (to a point), a large part of Two-Face's abilities come from his leadership and ability to intimidate gangsters. While Flip-Flop has something of a way to counter that (or build a "gang", anyway), he couldn't get a crew together in the middle of a bank robbery. Similarly, while Safan Al'Ghul has abilities with which he can "answer" Ra's, he doesn't have the Society of Shadows... yet, anyway.

    (Edit: Yes, his skill-set makes him very good at suborning portions of existing organizations... if in a really strange way.)

    Similarly, Lex Luthor's counter-form is quite capable of building a major company and designing massive death-robots and power suits. This doesn't mean that he has Lex's pre-built business empire. None of this is a perfect rule, mind, as there are always exceptions. Gnatman, for instance, comes with his own support structure.

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    Ooh, does that mean that since Deadpool is an obvious parody of Deathstroke, he can become Deadpool!?!?
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    No.
     
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    Aleh said:
    A counterform is not a counterpart, really... and Deathstroke's is particularly unlikely to appear, given the general "Little Death" theme of it.
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    Awww... but you have to admit it would be amazing to have Deadpool. But I see why you would want to avoid that. Deadpool tends to dominate whatever setting he's in.
     
    cupcakeviolater said:
    Awww... but you have to admit it would be amazing to have Deadpool. But I see why you would want to avoid that. Deadpool tends to dominate whatever setting he's in.
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    No, that's not the issue. Deadpool is, ironically, boring.

    He also doesn't fit the "embarrassing" theme of the power.

    Jedarol said:
    so its parody characters huh, does that include abridged versions? spaceballs?
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    No, although there is one form that includes a lot of Spaceballs references.
     
    I wonder if Superman's counterform is the Manliest Man who has ever Manned one who is a True Superman. Obviously he would be a Lumberjack. He cuts down trees he eats his lunch and he goes to the lavatory, on Wednesdays he goes shopping and has buttered scones for tea. He cuts down trees, skips and jumps and likes to press wild flowers, he puts on women's clothing and hangs around in bars. He wears high heels, suspendies, and a bra, he wished he'd been a girlie just like his dear Papa.
     
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    CronosONE said:
    I wonder if Superman's counterform is the Manliest Man who has ever Manned one who is a True Superman. Obviously he would be a Lumberjack, he eats his lunch and he goes to the lavatory, on Wednesdays he goes shopping and has buttered scones for tea. He cuts down trees, skips and jumps and likes to press wild flowers, he puts on women's clothing and hangs around in bars. He wears high heels, suspendies, and a bra, he wished he'd been a girlie just like his dear Papa.
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    Less Monty Python, more beer. Add a "t" and to the name and replace an "e" with an "o".
     
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