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you only need two published continuities for thatNow I'm kinda wondering if there's enough versions of Sailor Moon to do a 'Crisis on Infinite Crystal Tokyo'.
you only need two published continuities for thatNow I'm kinda wondering if there's enough versions of Sailor Moon to do a 'Crisis on Infinite Crystal Tokyo'.
Now I'm kinda wondering if there's enough versions of Sailor Moon to do a 'Crisis on Infinite Crystal Tokyo'.
I remember this episode mostly because of the DIC version of the song Oh Starry Night.
(full version)
Who doesn't love Rei, everyone has the hots for her.
Part of Rei perfectionist personality is her pride in my opinion.
The DIC title for next episode is and I kidd you not... Food Fetish.
Yeah, it was a good episode, and Ail and An being in the fashion show was something quite surprising, but fit the humorous tone that Sailor Moon does go for.I actually own the CD the video right below this uses for a cover image. I think I've got about a half-dozen Sailor Moon CDs, posted a picture of them earlier in the thread.
Anyway, yeah. Good episode. I loved Ail and An in the fashion show.
Oh yes, agreed that this episode was a lot better than the last two.I enjoyed this episode a lot more than the previous two. I like Rei when she's showing her ambitious perfectionist side rather than being like Usagi but Tsundere about it.
Oh yes, been waiting for you to get to this episode for a while now.
I had thought it was still another episode or two away, but its finally here.
Of all the characters of Sailor Moon, Rei is definitely the one who stands out the most in how different her portrayal is in the manga, Sailor Moon Crystal and here in the original anime as well.
With her 90's version being contentious among the Sailor moon fan base for how they feel about it due to the difference between how she is in the manga/Crystal and how she is here. With the 90's dub turning her portrayal up to eleven in this regards and colouring many fans view of Rei as a character for years to come.
With the manga version being a lot more stoic, quiet, conservative, and most prominently, not liking men very much due to her father neglecting her and her mother by dumping Rei on her grandfather (who's also very different in the anime compared to the manga), only ever seeing her on her birthday and never coming to visit his wife when she was ill. Along with how she contrasts to Minako who's a lot more tomboyish, clout and gets on her nerves due to their differences. though by the end they have become close friends and in agreement of not needing boys.
Compared to the anime Rei, who's kind of the opposite of that with her temper, pride, bickering with Usagi, liking of manga/anime and other stuff that make her a lot more closer in many ways to Usagi herself despite how much they bicker and how they act in general.
There's been much debate on who was the main influencer for Rei's change in characterization in the anime. With again a lot of fans believing Ikuhara being the main source since he was director for a number of Rei episode in season one where her change in personality, characterization were most felt (i.e. her pinching Ami's leg which manga Rei certainly wouldn't do, the stuff with Mamoru). Along with that he supposedly said he anime Rei was his ideal girl, but then everything he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Plus, his perchance for Yuri no doubt drove the subtext between Usagi and Rei that i have to admit i love very much and feel very much the same on the song and the ending where the two chat with one another before slipping right back to bickering as usual.
With her Japanese VA Michie Tomizawa also having a fair bit of input as well since she wasn't happy about how sometimes Rei was portrayed by Ikuhara and the show (namely being used for comedy bits like when she was stepped on by Mamoru, which this along with others i have to admit were some of the funniest bits of SM so i defend that). There's more information in this blog piece by TuxedoUnmasked below.
Rei anime change
But personally, i think the main reason Rei got changed up for the anime was because of that in the first 9 episodes, Usagi didn't really have a proper foil that say we say. Challenge her, push her to start being more serious, to do better. While Luna certainly expected Usagi to do this, she didn't really know how to motivate her. But come episode ten with Rei's introduction and the first proper episode where Rei is part of the cast, episode 11 (which Ikuhara directed) here is where we can see where they decided Rei to be the character that tells Usagi to stop crying, that bickers with her, to push her to stop being lazy and also to create a dynamic that changes the show up. In my view they succeeded. It was the push the show needed at the time to develop even more and create contrasting cast members. Especially with 15 episodes until they introduced Makoto.
While Rei certainly wasn't the most likeable character, she helped develop the show, Usagi, Ami and so on with her personality, her drive as she has consistently showed throughout her time so far on the show like when she still came out to fight Youma while having a cold, her perchance for goofy stuff like the noted meet crush gone wrong or her perchance for pink overalls. While her bickering with Usagi could vary depending on the episode and who wrote it etc. It was clear that it's meant to make Usagi a better leader, better Sailor Moon and better person. Which episode 45 showed in full detail when its was just Rei and Usagi left. These two are close and respect, and i dare say love each other the most out of all the sailors.
Because Rei takes herself, her duties very seriously. She has the commitment and respect for giri as Japanese culture would put it. Which means to put duty above all else. Course Rei is not above indulging herself as she has shown more often than not.
Which she shows full on in this episode with her duty as Head of the committee for the festival being a mix of carrying out her duty in the role, wanting to make it a fab festival but also boost her own image and ego, Usagi and Ami's relief at knowing that Rei is doing this for herself somehow manages to be hilarious, heartwarming all at once that they respect and still see Rei as their comrade and friend no matter what.
Where at every turn, we see her directing everything, the events, the students. Even though she is firm and stubborn in her approach. You can see how much her fellows respect her for how much she puts into all. Its really great we finally got to see how Rei is at her school, since we have only ever seen her outside of it. Of how she carries herself, puts those expectations on herself. Touts that she had no problem writing, yet as we say, she did struggle, she constantly rewrote the song. Yet would be the last person on earth to admit it to anyone else. Which is part sad in a way Rei struggles to show her vulnerabilities as say Usagi would. But also again part of what makes Rei Rei. And why Usagi admires her the most and why anime Rei is my preferred version of her.
Though i kind of wish we had got hints or seen her dad here, just so she could show him up and prove how much of a dick/idiot he is for overlooking her.
Some fab bits throughout the episode like Makoto winning the cake event, nice touch as always to her feminine background. Ami and Rei in that love blind thingy, Ami's face is priceless, not sure why but the way she looks while the male student tear drops makes me giggle everytime. While Rei is clearly smuggling beside her.
Another great Ami moment is when Usagi is getting nervous at Rei about to sing and she reminds her she's not singing. Again Ami clearly isn't intending to be mean, just pointing out the fact and Usagi's reaction sells it perfectly.
Once again, the show does a great job balancing the humour and villainy of Ail and An, the licking gets me as well everytime. But the way the show then has then duped into the costumes and how they embrace it once again humanizes them. I'm going to miss them once their arc is over, watching this arc again has reminded me of how much i enjoy it and them as characters, villains in their own right. Something very few "filler" arcs come close to achieving.
All in all this is the episode where it feels like everyone gets to enjoy themselves, where we can clearly see how much the girls value each other, enjoy being together as Usagi, Makoto and Minako go round the festival and eagerly await Rei's consort. Get to enjoy being teens for once until the fight. Even then their bonds shine through.
Great episode all round and another brilliant review @Usili 2.0.
Keep it up mate
DeadlyViperQuill
Oh no Sailor Moon died once again.Usagi is just utterly in despair at there not being food and then just goes to collapse on Ami.
He made her giggled.Ail then goes to ask Mako on the logic of like->lunch for people, as Mako just breaks out laughing. An is meanwhile furious over it and transforms
Yeah it is a badass attack... too bad it doesn't make another appearance in the series.And then comes Mako's powerup as 'Supreme Thunder Dragon' which is just utterly amazing and stops the Cardian
Yeah. Even now the 'he reminds me of my ex!' thing was getting tlightly old.But… the flute of Ail starts playing, as both Ami and Mako go to investigate it. There, Ail is just surrounded by lots of girls holding lunches as Ami goes to tease Mako about him reminding her of the person who broke her heart… but, he does play music like her ex! This just sends Ami into shambles before she suddenly goes back to focus on how Ail appeared at the school the same time as the Moonlight Knight appeared… this just then goes to send Mako's heart racing.
Ami spent the next few years getting her spine realigned.As Ail goes to leave, having stated he doesn't leave lunch, Mako has a new mission! She will be the person to go and investigate Ail to see if he is the Moonlight Knight (and to also make him her boyfriend). The way the animation does with the pose, combined with Ami's calling of her name and then the "Oh…" which is just an impending sign of doom is absolutely amazing. But this is merely expanded upon her, as Mako gives Ami a pat on the back… that sends her shoe off literally as it's now on for Mako.
I actually do feel more than a bit sorry for Usagi, here. Just a bit, though.Back with Ami, she's meanwhile working on a school computer, that is somehow running a recognition program to identify a match between the Moonlight Knight and Ail which only showcases a .2% match. As that is happening, Usagi busts in having finally found Ami and then goes to see her lunch… only to see it's empty. Usagi is just utterly in despair at there not being food and then just goes to collapse on Ami.
An was found later ripped into several chunks and electrocuted.Back with the Mako and Ail show, Ail just is utterly confused by how you give love and lunches to people? Instead Ail says it should be taken for yourself, and Mako just seems unable to understand it. And then in comes An to cause problems, attacking the both of them and also stomping upon the lunchbox, while saying that Mako has no right to lecture anyone on love. I feel it was upon An's smashing of Mako's lunchbox, that she has incurred Mako's permanent hatred. Usagi, Ami, and Luna arrive on the scene as Usagi goes to transform to face off against the Cardians.
That is an interesting question. There's a species in the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic show called the changelings who feed on 'love'. And it's unknown if they can sustain themselves on physical food or not.o, an interesting thought that came to mind after watching this episode was the question of the energy consumption for Ail and An and how it worked exactly. Like, it's kind of clear that their life-force is sustained from the energy gathered by the Makai tree, but can they sustain themselves off of in this case, human food? It's something that made me a bit puzzled on and thinking on after the episode, especially in terms of An wondering what to do with the lunch that was made by Ail. It's probably not the case, but it's something I had to mention as something I was stewing on.
Unfortunately, Jupiter never used Supreme Thunder Dragon a second time in the anime It did surface again in various Sailor Moon video games, however.The aspect of a 'Supreme Thunder Dragon' for Mako is something that does fit, and it is kind of interesting in that considering both Rei and Mako had new animal-themed powerups, in that both of their episodes were good and if that is correlated.
Yeah it is a badass attack... too bad it doesn't make another appearance in the series.
*shakes fist*Unfortunately, Jupiter never used Supreme Thunder Dragon a second time in the anime It did surface again in various Sailor Moon video games, however.
It'll happen again in the 4th season, Jupiter getting a new powered-up attack that only appears in a single episode.
Right. Just was an odd thought I hadThat is an interesting question. There's a species in the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic show called the changelings who feed on 'love'. And it's unknown if they can sustain themselves on physical food or not.
To be honest, I thought it was more tied into like... Mako mentioning about how Ail is An's brother and the way she is talking about him isn't like... brotherly from what I recall? I might've misinterpreted the scene a bit there.One of my favorite episodes, its fun and there's interesting plot bits.
Also, I don't think An and Ail can really eat Earth food. Ail got sick shortly after eating some.
What was interesting for the episode was how Ail viewed love. It came up in the context of Ail's confusion of liking someone and giving lunches to people, and Mako's answer on it. He explicitly said that "Love should be something you simply reach out and take for yourself!" It's something that is utterly interesting, especially in how he doesn't understand whatsoever about love. It's something I am thinking that is going to be touched on further considering that love is just such an omnipresent element of Sailor Moon. It's also like, something that is just kind of interesting if it something that is just tied with up the species Ail and An are or just something else.
... I hadn't necessarily made that connection, but now that you suggest it. 🤔
Another episode so quick @Usili 2.0, just the thing we need to kick off the week.
I have always enjoyed this episode, it feels in some ways a sequel to season one episode Total Chaos: The Messy Love Rectangle, which i know you weren't all that fond of for the reasons you stated.
I admit i hold it up as one of my favourites because of how hilarious it is to me in many places and because of the cartoonish animation it had that i felt suited Sailor Moon. But namely because like here, it had Makoto taking her tunnel vision approach to crushes and love and exploring it as this show does.
But i think this episode does it better, namely in keeping the focus on Makoto for the most part even though they are exaggerating the whole "like my senpai" thing that was a one off in the manga and also on her and Ami stuff. which is always great as the two have great chemistry with each other on many levels in how they feel and think on the stuff that affect their duties and their personal lives. With Makoto getting all dreamy about Moonlight knight while Ami attends to the matter of who he could be and why he's helping the Sailors.
Especially if like me and the show at times right from Makoto's first episode if you pay attention to how Ami reacts to Makoto a number of scenes, especially here. You subtly ship them for many reasons as i do with Usagi and Rei.
Namely in how it not just once again allows us to see the earnest and sweet romanticist that Makoto is in all her teenage puppy love. But also in developing Ali with the what is this thing you call love trope and how he contrasts to his sister. Who has not been afraid to cling onto Mamrou in previous episodes. In how it also allows us to see how Makoto feels about love, how hurtful it can be at times for a girl as she knows firsthand and again allowing her to show just how adorable and earnest she is about it. As you say it forms part of the trio she has with Usagi and Ami in how they interact with each other and approach it as we have seen with Usagi a number of times and with Ami in season one with Ryo.
The animation in this episode is top quality and i love many of the facial reactions we get from everyone, the way Ami eats her lunch while still researching Ali (had to laugh at the bit where the translation says not so strong in liberal arts) and the nice little subtle touch of her final sandwich having rabbit ears. Subtly symbolizing Usagi was a sec too late in getting to her. To how Makoto's body language while she's sitting with Ali, fiddling and blushing. It reminded me very much of when i went to Tokyo sky tower for lunch back in 2015, where this couple were sitting and doing the same thing of being shy, playing with their hair, fingers etc. it was one of the most adorable things i ever saw and Makoto again is especially so enjoyable to watch.
i liked some of the stuff going on with the side character here like Naru and Uminio, with the latter constantly making too big of lunches and the same stuff. Heart very much in the right place, but Umi learn to read your partner mate. While Haruna has either reached the point where she can no longer be bothered in scolding Usagi for turning up late and sleeping in class or she has grown to cut Usagi some slack and hoping it will work better than having her stand outside the classroom all morning.
I have to wonder on Luna taking all day to bring Usagi's food, either she is bad at remembering where Usagi's school is or Usagi's lunch was so heavy she had to drag it across Tokyo all day. considering past episodes we have seen her carry Usagi's lunch, i'm inclined to view it the former.
Usagi's side stuff of looking for any food is in character for her to do and reminds us of the simple pleasures Usagi is passionate about. that's our Usagi through and through.
This episode wasn't a plot mover like the cherry garden was, or a deep exploration into a character the way the last episode was with Rei (though it nicely forecasts Makoto, Ami and Usagi in their own stuff). But its a really well done and nicely put together character driven breather that has many funny moments, nice character bits for main and side characters and allows one of the villains more focus sololy than we have seen thus far.
Excellent review as always mate
DeadlyViperQuill
The DiC dub had "Lita" saying that she should get the role because of her "talent." US fans later used that euphemism jokingly, a la Macross Frontier fans 10+ years later insisting on "hopes and dreams."
We're near the end of this story arc, so, uh, hang in there?
The DiC dub had "Lita" saying that she should get the role because of her "talent." US fans later used that euphemism jokingly, a la Macross Frontier fans 10+ years later insisting on "hopes and dreams."
We're near the end of this story arc, so, uh, hang in there?
I absolutely loved that bit. I'll give the dub credit for keeping that bit in.Oh yeah this one dub change made the episode very memorable, in the original Mako flat out tells the others " I should be Snow White because my breasts are bigger than everyone else"... The censors didn't even take out the 'boing' sound effect.
Mrs. Haruna was not in the mood today for Usagi nonsense.Usagi then decides to start eating which needless to say gets her into trouble and forced into detention after school.
I remember this scene in the DIC dub as Ann was such a wiseass here.. I Loved it.Haruna then turns to Ail… who just says translates the passage into the language of her homeworld (which is presumed by Haruna as gibberish and making fun of it I feel?), and then which results in her also getting into trouble and being forced to stay after school.
They're going to see the new cat detective movie.Minako then goes to state they should go to a movie, and I… wait, what. I… Minako puts them in a bag and then zips them up in the bag? What? Minako, what are you doing???
Yeah, there is just a bit of feeling bad for An here on what happened.I absolutely loved that bit. I'll give the dub credit for keeping that bit in.
Anyway, I actually did feel bad for An, here. She may have gotten in through nefarious means, but she tried her best with the role. It was a legit shame what happened with the Cardian.
Finally got round to putting my thoughts on this great episode.
Said it before and i will say it again, Sailor Moon is brilliant when it comes to slice of life stuff. On showing how its characters engage with what they are doing whether its visiting a ice rink, theme park, beach or as in this episode taking part in a production of snow white by Mamrou.
Right off the bat, Luna has definitely either reawakened long lost romantic notions she may or may not have during her life under Queen Serenity. Or Usagi has rubbed off on her with her teenage daydreams and ideas of love etc. But either way it's pretty hilarious to see her acting out like that since from her first appearance. She has pretty much outside of occurrences like with Rhett Butler, been all business in making Usagi the sailor moon she wants her to be, in finding the moon princess and finding herself having to deal with the lumbering and conflicting emotions and actions of the teenage girls she has around her.
Oh and nicely providing a brilliant screen wipe via her mouth. Wished they had done that sooner or done it with the sailors. I can imagine the different ways they can do the sailors one.
Which this episode provides us with abundance with how they all argue on who gets to play the main role. With each of them providing their own arguments from Rei having the idea in the first place, to Usagi preaching the cute factor. Minako and her peppiness, Makoto and her "talents" (good on the dub for that reach around and for keeping the bong sound) and Ami getting the best one with her excuse of having to study so she should play it due to her having the least lines. Once again Ami gets the biggest laugh from me, she's on a real roll at the moment with the great lines or reactions she gets.
Love the camera shot of them arguing as if they are on a merry go round. Heck the whole episode was brilliant on the animation front, excellent facial reactions throughout
This is i think the first episode i can think of where the focus is on An instead of Ali as we have seen in previous episodes. With the girls pretty much reaching her limit with her after previous interactions with her having been An as Natsumi being in some ways kind of how Rei could be with Usagi and her teammates at times in season one. Something Rei picks up acutely here along with the rest where despite knowing she cheated in the straw draw. Decide to give her the role to try and help her. Which i thought was interesting and nice way of showing the empathy, the fact all four of them know loneliness and being oscastated from others before they met Usagi and each other. Adds a good layer to the episode.
And An, i have to say i felt for her here, even though she's trying to take Mamoru's energy and because she has a crush on him, she clearly is enamoured with the romantic spirit of the Snow White tale, of finding your one true love. The pray she does at the shrine for it all to go well really shows how much it means to her and the girls being even more determined to make it work despite their misgiving about her makes it even more potent.
Again very much like how the teenage side of the sailors comes out strongly here, so it does for her and the way she breaks down at the end made me feel for her. Especially as Ali ended up screwing the whole show by sending the clown Cardigan because he didn't get to play the prince.
Alsi gets a great teenage feel by his desire to play the prince and fantasising on kissing Usagi. The two are truly teenagers through and through.
Of course, Usagi brings up a interesting point before she lets her jealousy of An playing the role and potentially kissing Mamoru. Of how is this really the best way to help An considering how abrasive she is to everyone etc. that friends should call each other one when they are treating others badly.
Have to say despite the appearance not seeming intimidating at first glance. Bipierrot was another intimidating Cardigan with how they acted here, the camera shots capturing their threat very well with the white eyes making them creepy in that IT way i love in clown villains.
Honestly Uminio, you really thought the girls would be happy wearing those outfits despite them meaning to be dwarves 🤨? No wonder Rei and Makoto got mad at him for it.
Usagi's witch outfit always makes me smile. It suits her very much,
Still he made up for that by causing the hilarious whack a mole struggle between them all.
Loved the Sailor entrances and their words. Ami again gets the best one by somehow being serious of getting her studying guide time back, girl really does love her studying thats for sure.
I just noticed something, Artemus has been missing for two episodes now. Wonder where that tomcat is during this episode?
Another enjoyable episode with so many great bits.
Keep up the fine work as always @Usili 2.0 .
DeadlyViperQuill
And here we go again with our thoughts on the next episode of Sailor Moon.
As you say, the setup of this one is very rota, basically the main character and their rival are stuck in detention and they end up chatting to each other during it while the teacher thats meant to oversee them either is so apathetic they ignore them or don't supervise them for whatever reason.
Its certainly interesting in how this episode handles Usagi and An alone with each other and how their thoughts and words match up in places like at the end.
I liked the sequence at the start with the sailors fighting a Cardigan, showing the provocativeness the sailors are taking and as a whole how Ali and An are feeling the effects of their setback more and more each episode. Which is a good plot development as it shows the Sailors making progress against them and them suffering the consequences of their failure to get enough energy. Especially with the Cardigan this episode not listening to their orders. Which makes a nice change from the monster of the week obeying their wielder.
Also liked how their battles in the morning affected Usagi, Ami and Makoto being late for school. Ami never having being late is totally her in every way. Also love the name of her cram school, absolutely pass cram school. They certainly are a humble lot that place aren't they 😏.
Oh Minako and the way she is with cats at times, won't be the last time she's willing to zip them up or put them somewhere where you wouldn't think to if you love cats. Though at least she let them watch the film from her bag. Luna's back to being her usual self, guess the sling romantic ting was nothing but a Usagi influenced moment. Also i'm not sure if that is actually Allen in the film with the blonde hair or if its just Minako thinking of him because he looks so similar to him and also because its clearly a romance film the trio went to see. But since they never made it clear what Allen did for a living, i like to think it could be him.
Yeah as mentioned before, the original Sailor Moon anime was very inconsistent when it came to its animation quality due to even for the time its rather low budget, especially in the first two seasons.
Which meant they never really had a coherent art style across its run (though by Super and Stars its gotten better) and different animators outside of a few like Ikuko Itoh, Masahiro Ando and others who worked on every season. All of whom had their own styles that showed on each episode they did, especially Ando who did the episode you mentioned where yo had issues with. Since his really stick out for how he draws the characters in general like their eyes being triangular, their bodies being more childlike and so on. Though for me at least he often makes up with his talent for facial reactions, comedy bits and just how he often captures character intros like Venus's first appearance on the show. He managed to eventually take his style and apply it excellently to the film Sword of the Stranger, which has some of the best animation i have seen with the fight scenes especially being top class work as you can see below.
This link shows the names of who did which episode of Sailor Moon, which lets you see how the art and animation evolved as each season and episode went on.
SM animator names and picture link
Back to the episode at hand.
Overall its another good episode with the plot now nearing its endgame with the way the final shot of the tree clearly indicates it is feeling the energy Ali and An have been feeding it across the tree arc.
Thanks again @Usili 2.0 for your hard work as always
DeadlyViperQuill
Put bluntly, I'm honestly surprised that bit was actually included in the Dic dub.Thoughts about the Lita talent scene that everyone talked about?