Thor: Love and Thunder

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Box Office: ‘Thor: Love and Thunder’ Opens to $15.7 Million Overseas

Disney’s "Thor: Love and Thunder" picked up $15.7 million at the international box office on opening day.
The film is currently playing in 17 overseas markets, including Germany, Italy, Australia and Korea, and it will debut in North America and several other major territories on Friday.

Overall ticket sales are pacing 39% ahead of "Thor: Ragnarok" (which ultimately collected $122 million during its opening weekend) and 24% behind "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness" (which scored a massive $265 million in its international box office debut).

... For now, "Love and Thunder" is not playing in China, Russia or France.
 
this is unfortunately not high praise...

More seriously this is perhaps the most comic book-ish movie I've seen, a lot of individual moments work well, and it feels nice when its indulging in the ability of comic books to do pretty much whatever with a straight face. The problem is its also tonally incoherent. MCU movies have issues handling tone already, but it feels worse in this film. Feels like it went through multiple rewrites and directors with competing visions or something.

I also must say that despite MCU being predominantly action genre in theory, this movie's fight scenes feel aggressively perfunctory. Like the director was told that he had to fulfill a certain minimum quota of dumb CGI monsters punched and did so with the enthusiasm of a man filing his tax returns.

The strongest points of the movie were probably the humor and having a good cosmic high fantasy aesthetic blend. Not too surprising given the director. But Ragnarok was better than this.
 
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More than anything, I think it suffers from high expectations. It's a solid enough marvel movie, but it's not exceptional the way Ragnarok was.
 
Fun but not great. Loved the sound effects.
How the hell they got permission for the nazgul and cave troll...love it though].
 
Loved it.

Might be just because I've watched it that many times over the years, but I thought this was funnier than Ragnarok. I particularly enjoyed story time with headless Otto(?) and lost it every time those goats screamed with perfect comic timing.

Didn't notice anything iffy with the CGI, and thought that one mostly black and white fight scene was pretty rad.

I don't agree that the tone issues were especially bad for the most part? The film had an idea of when it wanted to be funny and when it wanted to be serious, and certainly I didn't find that one undercut the other.

My one complaint is the pretty rubbish representation, which was just half-assedly shoved in there. Thank.

From a quick Google, I have just found that Gorr is an actual character, and that Thor therefore has two villains who lost a child and decided all gods had to die. I went into this totally blind, and was like 'it's Desak!' and was confused when everyone started calling him Gorr. That being the case, it makes more sense that his resurrected daughter with cosmic powers wasn't called Tarene, who was from the same run as Desak.

I don't think I'll go and see it again in cinema, but would definitely see it again in a year or so.
 
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Taika Waititi Has No Interest in a ‘Waititi Cut’ of ‘Thor: Love And Thunder’: ‘Director’s Cuts Are Not Good’

Waititi seems to show no interest in releasing a director's cut of "Thor: Love and Thunder": "Director’s cuts are not good."
"I've been thinking about director's cuts," Waititi told New Musical Express. "I watch director's cuts of a lot of other directors. They suck. Director's cuts are not good. Directors need to be controlled sometimes and if I was to say, 'Ah you wanna watch my director's cut? It's four and a half hours long!' It's not good at four and a half hours. There's a lot of cup-of-tea breaks in there, you don't even have to pause it."

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"I'd say my cut would probably have a few more jokes in there," he explained. "There might be a couple of deleted scenes but as I always say, a scene is deleted because it's not good enough to be in the film. I think the deleted scenes section on the DVD, not that they use them anymore, should just be a list of the scenes and no links so you can't click on them!"
 
Eh, I agree that director's cuts are probably overrated, but I hate that the idea that there can only ever be one true cut of a film and that deleted scenes should be cast in the abyss to never be seen.

If someone prefers to watch some crazy long nine hour version of a film, that's their prerogative and entirely valid.
 
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Box Office: ‘Thor 4’ Thunderous With $143M Franchise-Best Opening

The fourth film in the Marvel stand-alone franchise, which returns Chris Hemsworth in the titular role, launched to a huge $302 million globally.
The pic opened in line with expectations in North America, where it scored the third-best opening of the pandemic era behind Spider-Man: No Way Home ($260 million) and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness ($187.4 million).

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The Thor films have never been known for mega-openings. Ragnorok fared the best at $122.7 million in 2017. The first Thor debuted to $65.7 million in 2011, followed by $85.7 million for Thor: The Dark World in 2013.

Audiences gave Thor: Love and Thunder a B+ CinemaScore, compared to an A for Ragnorak.
 
Taika Waititi left a ton of surprises in "Thor: Love and Thunder" on the cutting room floor, including buzzy appearances by Lena Headey, Jeff Goldblum and Peter Dinklage. The latter two shot scenes in the film as their pre-existing Marvel characters the Grandmaster and Eitri, respectively, while "Game of Thrones" favorite Headey was set to make her Marvel Cinematic Universe debut. All of their scenes got deleted.

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Waititi would not reveal anything about the scenes in which Headey, Goldblum or Dinklage appeared, adding, "I'm not going to give you a moment because this is my way of telling you, like, people say, 'I can't wait for the deleted scenes with those actors.' I don't want people to see the deleted scenes because they're deleted for a reason: They aren't good enough. The scenes were not in the movie and that's it."

Headey's cut role in "Thor: Love and Thunder" resulted in a $1.5 million lawsuit against her by her former U.K. agency Troika over unpaid commission fees. Troika, which re-branded as YMU in 2020, claims Headey owes the agency at least $500,000 — equivalent to 7% of her fee — for her earnings on the Marvel movie. Headey disputes that Troika has any claim to commission on "Thor: Love and Thunder," which she says came about after director Waititi approached her directly.
 
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Better Thors Aren’t Possible

Spoilers, in every sense.

A good piece centered around the idea that noone in Thor 4 really believes in anything - and that nothing in it means anything - at all.

The people of New Asgard have completely foreclosed not only on restoring any semblance of their own society, but on any semblance of a society better than that of Earth — of 'Midgard'. The society in which Thor's mother once passed away on a luxurious wooden bed surrounded by silks being waited on hand and foot can no longer even provide a complementary bag of crisps in the hospital waiting room. And they aren't even unhappy about it — they aren't unhappy about anything.

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In the final post-credits scene, Jane Foster reaches the Halls of Valhalla, where the greatest heroes who fell in battle live on. Foster and Gorr suffer identical deaths. Foster is present, the Gorr is not. Valhalla doesn't really believe in the cosmic resonance of individual valour — it's just a place some people end up.

You could continue in this vein; the people Thor assists with the help of the Guardians of the Galaxy at the start of the film see Thor destroy, through carelessness, their greatest city and holy site, but they don't really care. They still like him. They didn't really believe in it at all.
 
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Better Thors Aren’t Possible

Spoilers, in every sense.

A good piece centered around the idea that noone in Thor 4 really believes in anything - and that nothing in it means anything - at all.

It was the same way I felt about the Flag Smashers, trying to give us a Greta Thurnberg and her brand of followers fighting to prevent the world from complacent and making sure the rich got their yachts and billion dollar estates back while some poor eastern European blue collar returning from the snap see that his country was destroyed and he was to help a despotic oligarch work in the factory with a significantly reduced standard of living

Even a Tyler Durden Expy would had been better for the Flag Smasher if this is the way Disney handles things
 
You could continue in this vein; the people Thor assists with the help of the Guardians of the Galaxy at the start of the film see Thor destroy, through carelessness, their greatest city and holy site, but they don't really care. They still like him. They didn't really believe in it at all

They didn't seem especially pleased with Thor


and why would Gorr end up in Valhalla, they've already established there are different afterlives for different people based on which gods they're caught up in. It's not clear how that would work out for Gorr, but it's unlikely he'd end up in Valhalla
 
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They didn't seem especially pleased with Thor


and why would Gorr end up in Valhalla, they've already established there are different afterlives for different people based on which gods they're caught up in. It's not clear how that would work out for Gorr, but it's unlikely he'd end up in Valhalla

Why

would Jane end up in Valhalla
 
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Box Office: ‘Thor: Love and Thunder’ Stays No. 1 With $46M, ‘Where the Crawdads Sing’ Impresses With $17M

The weekend's other new wide release was Paramount's animated feature 'Paws of Fury,' which took the No. 6 spot, earning $6.25 million.
Thor 4 thundered to first at the domestic box office at 4,375 locations, a drop of 68 percent from its first weekend. This is on par with the last Marvel installment, Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, which dipped to 67 percent in its second weekend at the U.S. box office. Other pandemic MCU titles like Shang-Chi fared better, with the historic Marvel entry seeing just a 52 percent drop.

The domestic total for the fourth installment in the Thor standalone franchise stands at $233 million, while global ticket sales at $498 million.

Thor: Love and Thunder, which cost a mammoth $250 million to produce, opened this weekend in France with $8.1 million. Like most Hollywood movies today, it's not playing in Russia or China. Among holdover markets, the movie is performing the strongest in the United Kingdom ($24.9 million to date), followed by Australia ($21.8 million), Korea ($21 million), Mexico ($19 million) and India ($14.5 million). It debuts next weekend in Ukraine.
 
Because she was Thor and pretty associated with the Asgardians at that point?

So does she believe in Norse warrior heaven? Is that a place she desires to go to? Like is that a thing in the movie's text?

My point in asking this is to say this is more of an after the fact justification for the film making a thoughtless choice, rather than being anything coherent and considered communicated to the audience.
 
So does she believe in Norse warrior heaven? Is that a place she desires to go to? Like is that a thing in the movie's text?

My point in asking this is to say this is more of an after the fact justification for the film making a thoughtless choice, rather than being anything coherent and considered communicated to the audience.

Look she mantled Thor's CHIM, so she gets to go to thor's heaven.
 
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