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The Maid of the Comet: A Tale from Azeroth

What should the next Quest be?

  • Paths of Rhun (Middle Earth East Quest)

    Votes: 5 31.3%

  • By Your Will (Dungeon Keeper 1 Quest)

    Votes: 5 31.3%

  • Another Legend Quest (Gilgamesh, Lucrezia, Mordred, etc)

    Votes: 5 31.3%

  • None of the Above

    Votes: 4 25.0%
  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .
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san said:
Paladins can do everything, they can dish out huge amounts of damage especially to undead or demons, they can tank a shitton of damage and have a pally bubble (invincibility shield) for when they can't, and finally they have mad heals when they need to use them.

Now that does not mean they are the best at each of those roles all the time in WoW but they tend to be the best at, at least one of them at any given time.


Priests are one of the best healer/buffer roles with the ability to boost stamina, damage and armor of allies as well as boost their resistance to dark magic. they have very powerful healing and shielding but tend to run out of mana fast sometimes. They do not us weapons much though.

Those are actual WoW classes IDK enough about the other options. But paladins are the best class for someone intending to do a lot of individual adventuring and self-reliance and can always find a place and a role to fill in any party, often doing it better than most.
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Well, Paladin seems the obvious choice for us of those two. I'd like to hear about the other choices though; even if they're not available in WoW, they're clearly available to us. Anyone know anything about those? I'm sure Morlune will give us a brief overview, at least.
 
[X] "Yes. I want to learn, and it's about time. And..."
[X] "... I would like to train, if you could help me." (class chosen in another update, missions later.)
 
[X] "Yes. I want to learn, and it's about time. And..."

[X] "... I would like to train, if you could help me." (class chosen in another update, missions later.)

Id say just go full paladin, while other light wielding classes are possible all of them are a subset of either paladin or priest.
Also learning to use giant 2h weapons might eventually fulfill my dream of cleansing the Ashbringer and wielding it against the unholy legions of undead and demons!
 
C4d said:
[X] "Yes. I want to learn, and it's about time. And..."

[X] "... I would like to train, if you could help me." (class chosen in another update, missions later.)

Id say just go full paladin, while other light wielding classes are possible all of them are a subset of either paladin or priest.
Also learning to use giant 2h weapons might eventually fulfill my dream of cleansing the Ashbringer and wielding it against the unholy legions of undead and demons!
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speaking of, if we do do that we can probably take over the crusade given how important ashbringer is.
 
[X] "Yes. I want to learn, and it's about time. And..."

[X] "... I would like to train, if you could help me." (class chosen in another update, missions later.)

Let's do this.
 
san said:
speaking of, if we do do that we can probably take over the crusade given how important ashbringer is.
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Given that it requires a full assault on Naxxramas to reclaim, unless Mograine conveniently leaves for a day trip and gets ambushed or something like that, its quite a while into the future.
At that point i expect to be either somewhere in the Crusades leading ranks, if we manage to out the Dreadlord, or having joined up with the Argent Dawn if the Dreadlord problem escalates into something far worse.
 
C4d said:
Given that it requires a full assault on Naxxramas to reclaim, unless Mograine conveniently leaves for a day trip and gets ambushed or something like that, its quite a while into the future.
At that point i expect to be either somewhere in the Crusades leading ranks, if we manage to out the Dreadlord, or having joined up with the Argent Dawn if the Dreadlord problem escalates into something far worse.
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mmm perhaps. One can still hope, right? I mean the lich king took personal notice of us early on, he might send out some of his stronger dudes after us, right?
 
[X] "Yes. I want to learn, and it's about time. And..."
[X] "... I would like to train, if you could help me." (class chosen in another update, missions later.)
 
Vote might be called tonight.

EDIT: It's... Kinda unanimous, huh?
Adhoc vote count started by King Tharassian on Apr 4, 2018 at 11:38 AM, finished with 684 posts and 12 votes.
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King Tharassian said:
Vote might be called tonight.

EDIT: It's... Kinda unanimous, huh?
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well ya duh, everyone wants to pick our class now since all that happens otherwise is a delay on the choice... which doesn't add anything to it.

And as for reading.. Why not learn to read? you provide 0 info on anything bad that might happen if we do or any reason not to learn to read.
 
san said:
well ya duh, everyone wants to pick our class now since all that happens otherwise is a delay on the choice... which doesn't add anything to it.

And as for reading.. Why not learn to read? you provide 0 info on anything bad that might happen if we do or any reason not to learn to read.
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It's mostly time. Every option here has a certain degree of time required, and that can change a lot.
 
The thing is, between the betrayals, subversions and outright mind control Warcraft is rife with (and the Scarlet Crusade in particular) as well as how just plain useful reading and writing is especially if you can do both fairly fast it's worth the investment in time.
 
Huh. Saint!Jeanne D'Arc with the Light. The words "Broken as Fuck" come to mind.

At least I think they would, the Light runs on Self-Belief and is weakened by Self-Doubt I want to say? Jeanne's probably got more actual belief in her pinky fingers than fanatics have false belief in their entire body.

Course the whole burning to death and being abandoned by the Saints in her head thing would probably be getting to her right now as well... *Shrug*
King Tharassian said:
It's mostly time. Every option here has a certain degree of time required, and that can change a lot.
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Getting Jeanne trained up in the basics, at the very least, is a no-brainer with her level of raw power. Leaving that alone is just asking for someone to target her in order to prevent her from ever getting trained up.
 
ShadowAngelBeta said:
Course the whole burning to death and being abandoned by the Saints in her head thing would probably be getting to her right now as well... *Shrug*
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Except she was saved before she died, and the Saints are back now to help her even more often.

Honestly I forgot about this, but ya that explains why we are so powerful with the Light... holy fk we are going to be making Uther and Tirion equipped with Ashbringer put together look like a joke aren't we?
 
ShadowAngelBeta said:
Course the whole burning to death and being abandoned by the Saints in her head thing would probably be getting to her right now as well... *Shrug*
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Oh, she wasn't happy in the least. No one would be. But there's no indication that she had a crisis of faith during her imprisonment, and things have been moving fast enough that she hasn't really had the time to worry about it, let alone the desire.

EDIT: Basically (and I'm being generous here) she's so loyal to the idea that she's God's servant that she automatically assumes that anything bad is just a part of His greater plan, and that in the end, she both served her purpose and was needed elsewhere. A good idea would be that she's a step or two away from wishing she was a bullet so her whole being could be one glorious moment of service in His name.
 
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ShadowAngelBeta said:
At least I think they would, the Light runs on Self-Belief and is weakened by Self-Doubt I want to say? Jeanne's probably got more actual belief in her pinky fingers than fanatics have false belief in their entire body.
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Its not self belief its conviction, as long as you are 100% sure that what you are doing is the right thing the light will never leave you even if that thing is kicking puppies and burning down orphanages.
As long as Jeanne doesn't question her convictions she will never loose her light, and the stronger those convictions the more you can call upon it.
 
King Tharassian said:
Oh, she wasn't happy in the least. No one would be. But there's no indication that she had a crisis of faith during her imprisonment, and things have been moving fast enough that she hasn't really had the time to worry about it, let alone the desire.
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You don't consider her doubting she ever heard the voices, the entire thing that they were able to finally pin her on, to be a crisis of Faith? Or at least the stirrings of one?

Fair enough on the everything else moving too fast though.
 
ShadowAngelBeta said:
You don't consider her doubting she ever heard the voices, the entire thing that they were able to finally pin her on, to be a crisis of Faith? Or at least the stirrings of one?

Fair enough on the everything else moving too fast though.
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you sure? she really only hears them from church bells and she is hearing them again so the doubts have probably been entirely dismissed by now.
 
san said:
you sure? she really only hears them from church bells and she is hearing them again so the doubts have probably been entirely dismissed by now.
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Pretty sure yeah. My History Professor really liked her because she was one of the few female historical figures we actually have records of and for. Her and... SomethingSomething of Aquitaine.

*Shrug*

She was also being tried by a Religious Tribunal, Cardinal of Winchester is particularly infamous here, so... I'd kind of expect church bells to have been in the area because of that?

It might have been they purposefully screwed with her and kept her from hearing them for so long that she began to doubt. And I remember they stole her clothes at one point and gave her men's clothing too...

And dismissal of questions and doubts outright is... It's hard to reconcile how she would act here because of the difference in how we live today versus how they lived then I suppose. In our day and age you should question. If it's answered or affirmed, great. If it isn't then it will be out in the open, even if it's only between you and your target of worship, and not potentially festering away at you.

That's one way fanatics can develop.

I'm not as familiar with the Chruch during her time, beyond it being it's usual corrupt self, so... I know they didn't like those that would question or challenge their authority though.
 
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ShadowAngelBeta said:
Pretty sure yeah. My History Professor really liked her because she was one of the few female historical figures we actually have records of and for. Her and... SomethingSomething of Aquitaine.

*Shrug*

She was also being tried by a Religious Tribunal, Cardinal of Winchester is particularly infamous here, so... I'd kind of expect church bells to have been in the area because of that?

It might have been they purposefully screwed with her and kept her from hearing them for so long that she began to doubt. And I remember they stole her clothes at one point and gave her men's clothing too...

And dismissal of questions and doubts outright is... It's hard to reconcile how she would act here because of the difference in how we live today versus how they lived then I suppose. In our day and age you should question. If it's answered or affirmed, great. If it isn't then it will be out in the open, even if it's only between you and your target of worship, and not potentially festering away at you.

That's one way fanatics can develop.

I'm not as familiar with the Chruch during her time, beyond it being it's usual corrupt self, so... I know they didn't like those that would question or challenge their authority though.
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Eleanor of Aquitaine.

And Jeanne was kept in a secular prison, so the possibility that they denied her access to anything she said enabled her visions and such would be entirely valid.

But for this Jeanne, it's the Saint; pretty much the epitome of faithfulness to God. Admittedly, I've never heard anything about her doubting, and the only recantation she ever made was a contract she couldn't read and didn't understand the terms of.
 
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King Tharassian said:
Eleanor of Acquitaine.
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Yes, thank you.
King Tharassian said:
But for this Jeanne, it's the Saint; pretty much the epitome of faithfulness to God. Admittedly, I've never heard anything about her doubting, and the only recantation she ever made was a contract she couldn't read and didn't understand the terms of.
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I mean, I only know of it happening once with her. Period. And that one time was barely a falter when she had been imprisoned for months on end with nowhere to pray and who knows what else. That's still really impressive.

There's also a degree of interpretation up for grabs since, as you said earlier in the thread, the more historically accurate Pragmatist!Jeanne was the Patriot, not the Saint. Even if you're still keeping most of it on point with the history we have for her.

And, as I said:
ShadowAngelBeta said:
And dismissal of questions and doubts outright is... It's hard to reconcile how she would act here because of the difference in how we live today versus how they lived then I suppose. In our day and age you should question. If it's answered or affirmed, great. If it isn't then it will be out in the open, even if it's only between you and your target of worship, and not potentially festering away at you.
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It's probably also something of a differing view between her and me/us.
 
I'm calling the vote everybody. I'll try to have the update out tomorrow, but it might need to wait for the weekend.
Adhoc vote count started by King Tharassian on Apr 4, 2018 at 10:47 PM, finished with 699 posts and 12 votes.
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ShadowAngelBeta said:
the entire thing that they were able to finally pin her on
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Actually, the reason she was convicted was because she became a "relapsed heretic" for wearing men's clothing again, despite doctrine evaluating such cases by context. She was not executed for hearing voices specifically, only for wearing clothing considered inappropriate for her sex as a means of protecting herself. It's likely she barely understood what the abjuration she signed even said, let alone that it declared her visions false.

In other news, the update is underway.
 
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