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The Enemy Within (WHF Witch Hunter Quest)

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[X] Kill your Brother


Dutch makes a good point.
Our brother seems in no way more deserving than other people, who die for less.

Still, I hate to see this happen for what is basically misconceptions of the Colleges instead of realities.
He could have celebrated the fact that he had magic and found a way to use it to further both his own and the Colleges/Empires interests.
Instead he put his head in the sand, people died for it, and now he dies too.
 
I am starting to think we should off him... but I hold back from doing it now, because making final decisions on the spot in a situation where we don't have the whole picture is not OK.

We don't know how long this haunting has been going on.
For 10 years, Rikard managed to hide it? And nobody among the servants ever talked when going to the market? And Maria was OK with hiding this for years?
And the haunting did not start after Petr's death, when Markus was still around?

@Maugan Ra I think we have the grounds to ask:
- when Maria spoke of this, what did she say? Only "that there was a situation"? How many years has this been going on, and when exactly did it start?
 
Netos said:
I am starting to think we should off him... but I hold back from doing it now, because making final decisions on the spot in a situation where we don't have the whole picture is not OK.

We don't know how long this haunting has been going on.
For 10 years, Rikard managed to hide it? And nobody among the servants ever talked when going to the market? And Maria was OK with hiding this for years?
And the haunting did not start after Petr's death, when Markus was still around?

@Maugan Ra I think we have the grounds to ask:
- when Maria spoke of this, what did she say? Only "that there was a situation"? How many years has this been going on, and when exactly did it start?
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While Maria was not specific, she did mention that the haunting has been an issue for some time now, likely years. That said, in the previous update she did mention that it had grown slowly worse over time, and that it had never directly harmed anyone in the house before.
 
Adhoc vote count started by KingCrimson1081 on Dec 19, 2024 at 3:57 PM, finished with 237 posts and 98 votes.
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Where the vote currently stands.
 
[X] Kill your Brother

We just reaffirmed ourselves with an orientation towards faith, immediately breaking the laws of the empire which at this point are perceived as divine sanction, doesn't seem to jive well for me at this point.
 
Also.

Pietr isn't winning any dad of the year mugs from me. I know he's been spending his time a barely sane ghost for the last few years. But going off the deep end vis a vis magic for one son, then sacrificing himself for that same son to the utter guilt of the other, and then finally using your last words to tell the latter to protect the former....

Jeeze man.
 
Varder said:
Does that mean that we broke the law when we didn't execute Spatin when she cast her super hearing?
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A particularly zealous hardliner could make the argument, certainly. Others could point to a longstanding judicial tradition of offering pardons for former acts of illegal spellcasting performed by those who join the Colleges and find Markus' leniency perfectly justifiable.

The practice of law is really more of a philosophy than a science, in that respect. In the Empire, it's a matter of theology too.
 
I feel like when wave around a loaded gun while ranting about how you're rich and powerful and you would prefer death to becoming a slave of The Federal Gubmimt Karl-Franz what we've got is that rare situation where if law enforcement shoots you that one is on you and not them.
 
Oh, if this was 'some random noble' I would be sympathetic to them not wanting that to happen to them. Heck, moreso if it was not actually a noble. But I feel people are having a pretty rosy interpretation to the idea of getting sent to the colleges as I do. I mean, getting sent to the Colleges isn't something like 'oh no, have to pay taxes'. it is very much 'You will be obligated to perform services to the state to justify the state letting you live', it means that you are for most people a social Pariah. Sure, you keep the noble title. But I hope you didn't intend to keep any of the friends you made in life, because keeping those contacts will get really, really hard.
 
Also ghosts dad's last words to us were to look after him and keep him safe

Edit: having read the discussion I can find actually 0 reason at all to even consider killing him. He's done nothing wrong, he just exists in a way that's illegal, and honestly fuck that. Markus is better then this, he's been better then this, and he's motivated by being able to help in exactly this kind of situation. To kill him would be the betrayal of everything he holds dear, to let him go only (and even then only kind of) one thing
 
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Ghost Dad is not the boss of us. Ghost dad is the one who started this entire mess in the first place.

Marcus is just here to finish it.

He'll protect Rikard alright. He'll protect his soul by making him die a good Sigmarite and not letting him damn himself and the entire family with him. That'll save him.

Nobility is already bad enough. Imagine if they were also magical nobility.
 
Second Bear said:
Ghost Dad is not the boss of us. Ghost dad is the one who started this entire mess in the first place.

Marcus is just here to finish it.

He'll protect Rikard alright. He'll protect his soul by making him die a good Sigmarite and not letting him damn himself and the entire family with him. That'll save him.

Nobility is already bad enough. Imagine if they were also magical nobility.
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He hasn't damned anyone he wants to paint and not be enslaved to the state oh the horror
 
Second Bear said:
Does Sigmar agrees with you, citizen? Has a prophet appeared and repealed the hundred years old decree made by Magnus the Pious?
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Oh, I mean, I very much understand that Markus, who is a devout Sigmarite, feels that his brother should absolutely obey that law. Even if he compromises here, that's coming from a place of just emotionally not being able to do this, not any sense that this law is injust.

I, the reader of the story, and Ultrackius and presumably up to a point our brother are not devout Sigmarites. And we can look at this law and say 'Hey, this law is better than 'KILL KILL KILL' but is still pretty bullshit, and it's absolutely natural that someone would prefer to dodge a Lifelong Draft.'
 
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