No, he won't be that insane. I'm working with Santorum as he is not as a caricature like I turned some figures in Shots Fired (Kamala) into. He is a Dominionist at the end of the day though. But he is also an institutionalist unlike, say, Trump, so that cripples him in a way.

Well then, Frothy's mark on America is going to be affected by the congressional results.

Although, considering this is expressly a neoconservative dystopia, Frothy's likely getting a pretty big majority.
 
It's actually become Neocon propaganda. :V
Ah yes. I would call such full-on NeoCon policies presented here in this TL as "Sleepless Domain Foreign Policy".

Fighting on an endless war without any end. The only things that have left is the endless propaganda of how cool being a soldier or the war in [insert what third-world nation the U.S invaded] like the webcomic have.
 
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There is something viscerally evil about zoomers making epic bacon memes about one of the worst crimes of the 21st century.
This might be just the Old in me talking but I find that zoomers tend to lean hard into the worst possible version of whatever political inclination they identify with.
 
There is something viscerally evil about zoomers making epic bacon memes about one of the worst crimes of the 21st century.
Tasteless, sure, but I wouldn't say "evil". I wouldn't say the zoomers making said memes are "evil".

Only posted those cause the "neocon propaganda" comment tempted me to post some actual neocon propaganda.
 
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Sleepy Santorum
The presidential transition of 2008-9 was the last calm transition of power the nation would know until the present. Edwards, despite being the victim of a dirty campaign and being wiped out on a level not seen since '84, would be cordial to Santorum, something we should remember in these divisive times. Santorum, despite his later mistakes, was cordial in turn to Edwards and resisted the calls of radical right voices to move to prosecute hated members of the Edwards administration like Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who was chosen as the political sacrifice for the scandal that erupted when the strategy of bribing moderate Sunni leaders in Iraq was brought to widespread public attention by Rush Limbaugh. Santorum instead asked Republicans to pray for the country, and remember that Democrats were fellow Americans too.

Santorum was of course immediately faced with the enormity of the challenges facing him before his ascension to the Oval Office, from the economic catastrophe, to the Sudan and Afghanistan wars, illegal immigration, and social/racial divisions exacerbated in the Cheney and Edwards years by the peace movement, the Assassination of Jesse Jackson, Hurricane Katrina, the New York Riots, and now the unequal effects of the banking crisis. His response was to rapidly pick out his cabinet members so the Republican House and Senate could pass them with due haste; while also making sure to balance the evangelical wing of the party with the neoconservatives who wanted to focus more on business and foreign affairs than culture war. As such Santorum picked John McCain, the archetypical neocon, as his Secretary of State, and former Cheney administration National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of Defense to appease their wing of the party, while keeping out the most unpopular figures from the Cheney years like Donald Rumsfeld who never recovered from the Abu Gharib Scandal. In positions related to the domestic policies he would promote those closer to himself ideologically; evangelical or otherwise religiously conservative culture warriors like Newt Gingrich for Secretary of the Treasury, Mitt Romney as Attorney General, and Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council as Secretary of Education.

Santorum's inaugural address was uneventful, his speech was relatively short and only notable due to mentions of faith and God being more numerous and more explicitly the Christian faith and the Christian God. Upon finishing he would work to make his first 100 days a blitz of activity with his first priority being the economy....

...The American Economic Freedom and Opportunity Act would pass rapidly with Republican and Democratic support by February 20th, 2009 moving to lower taxes on new businesses as well as large corporations while increasing funding for the military, homeland security, law enforcement, infrastructure, and energy. Democratic proposals to increase funding in education, housing, and health and to at least temporarily expand unemployment benefits were shot down by fiscal hawks and moral majority supporters who feared that welfare recipients would refuse to go back to work. Still, the stimulus was initially popular as giving the appearance of activity and for cutting taxes in the short term...

...Overall Santorum would stay focused on the economy and cultural issues in his first few months in office. He delegated foreign affairs away to his cabinet as much as possible in a move that many Americans appreciated, exhausted as they were by the economic situation they couldn't be bothered to care about America's wars in the Middle East as much as they had in the fever pitch of the Cheney years and the doldrums of the Edwards administration. Although a majority of Americans still saw the Iraq War as a success,* they simply did not care as much about Islamic terrorists when they couldn't keep a roof over their heads, and Afghanistan and Sudan were viewed much more dubiously by the public when they could distinguish them at all as being separate from each other and Iraq.

Instead increasing calls were going out for the heads of the business leaders who were blamed for the recession in the first place. At least on the radical left that was; on the right the focus was shifting from the Middle East towards the threats of gay marriage, the national debt, youth crime, and illegal immigration from Mexico. Increasingly people were seeing their enemies as being at home with memories of 9/11 and other terror attacks not going away, but becoming less vivid.

If this had continued on its own Santorum likely would have been remembered as a flawed president, but not a especially heinous one. But instead of being remembered for class war or culture war the 5/13 Attacks in Saudi Arabia would end up making Santorum be remembered for the Third Phase of the War on Terror after Cheney's unfettered neoconservatism and Edwards's liberalism...
- Tomas Friedman's "What the Hell Happened to the Moderates? A History of the Last Twenty Years and Four Administrations."
...

Online group "Anonymous" leaks records of illegal dealings by Swiss banking corporation Julius Baer to WikiLeaks.
- ABC News; December 5th, 2008.**

Massive truck bomb kills Pakistani Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gillani and President Asif Ali Zardari along with ministers of interior and law.
- NDTV; December 18th, 2008.***

Several American and European military and intelligence officials killed in Islamabad Bombing.
- BBC; December 19th, 2008.

Pakistan launches manhunt in Islamabad; emergency elections to be held in early 2009.
- PBS Newswire; December 22nd, 2008.

Sudanese dictator Omar al-Bashir executed by Sudanese court in Khartoum.
- CBS News; December 27th, 2008.

Mass shooting at Berkley Campus kills 23; shooter takes own life.
- NBC News; January 18th, 2009.****

"The Berkley shooting has shocked the nation to its core; when I am president we will move hard to address the factors that have corrupted our youth into taking such disgusting actions. I will look into changing federal rules on moving obscene content on the internet and the distribution of violent media, including video games, that police are saying may have helped to inspire this shocking shooting."
- President Elect Rick Santorum to the press on January 19th, 2009.

"The Berkley shooter was a young white male who posted on the internet about how much he hated women, and yet we aren't hearing about him being a terrorist from the media. Instead its all about violent video games, funny how that works."
- Cenk Uyghur on The Young Turks; circa January 20th, 2009.

Santorum's Inaugural Address Seeks To Comfort A Nation In Deep Spiritual Crisis.
- The American Conservative; January 22nd, 2009.

Santorum moves to push stimulus through congress and senate.
- MSNBC; January 28th, 2009.

"The economy doesn't need big government spending, the market needs the government to get out of the way so it can correct itself."
- Rand Paul on CSPAN; February 7th, 2009.

Stimulus Bill Passes.
- Reuters; February 20th, 2009.

Hacker group "Anonymous" releases recordings of politicians involved in the Peru Oil Scandal to WikiLeaks.
- RT; February 25th, 2009.

FBI draws attention to threat posed by "crust punk" anarchist extremists in memo.
- CNBC; March 1st, 2009.

Gaddafi denies that Libya is giving arms to Sudanese terrorists.
- CNN; March 4th, 2009.

Santorum reportedly snubs Iceland's lesbian Prime Minister at NATO meeting in London.
- The Daily Mail; March 20th, 2009.

Pakistan to schedule elections for June as some fear the military is reluctant to give up power.
- BBC; March 24th, 2009.

New internet regulation to restrict distribution of pornography and violent video games passes house and senate.
- Fox News; April 2nd, 2009.

"At a time when our economy is in crisis Dick Santorum wants us to focus on the true threat to this nation; internet porn and violent video games. The Texas hayseed is censoring our media because he can, he knows that porn and video games didn't cause the Berkley shooting, those only cause virginity! But he wants to censor us because his magic book told him to, and the only people who opposed this bill were the progressive moonbats among the Democrats and the libertarian Republicans."
- Bill Maher on Real Time with Bill Maher; April 5th, 2009.
...
*The Iraq War OTL lost majority support in 2005. Here the Iraqi Civil War never gets as intense with Edwards doing the Surge earlier and also adopting the strategy of reaching out to (and bribing) moderate Sunni leaders to turn on Al Qaeda. As such Iraq seems like a bigger success past 2005 while under Cheney it seemed like a bigger failure than Iraq in 2004 OTL due to a series of terrorist operations that were successful in this timeline but not OTL. However this was blamed on Cheney rather than on the Iraq War itself being a monstrous crime.
**I'm moving some OTL Anonymous accomplishments around in the timeline. This will be important later.
***Based on a OTL attempt to decapitate the Pakistani civilian government that was nearly successful.
****The Virginia Tech Shooting was butterflied but something similar has taken its place.
 
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Bashing Back Against Censorship

It was futile, not just in hindsight. Pornography in particular was never going to be truly banned, especially on a medium that was as light and easy as the internet, but various agencies would try their hardest along with the support of Christian puritans (though how they 'discovered' the pornography is something in question). Regardless, the internet became more sophisticated in the exchange of pornography and while this would initially be used for cleverly perverted ends, it would soon lead countless people to band together and act in ways that would normally never would.

The internet pornography ban was a wide-ranging thing and wouldn't just target the visual, but also would target written erotica and fanfiction, especially shipping and slash culture. While this temporarily would lead to it receding, it would come back in force and even on a more mainstream level. Teenage girls in particular wrote and exchanged many of these works, both in real life and on a more online setting. They would exchange sites and would talk about their favourite shows and the various men they shipped together. However, this was not without its dangers, as teenage girls were put on sex offender registries for spreading such material, but even this would not stop shipping. But it did lead to several of these shippers being blackmailed into all sorts of acts, with sexual assault skyrocketing and only being revealed years later after several popular romance novelists revealed that it also happened to them, kickstarting a movement of girls and women who would make shipping heard (and at times co-opted into the established media landscape, though only in the most executive-meddled forms).

Similarly, teenage boys were a randy bunch with far too much time on their hands. So, if several of those boys were computer-savvy enough to actually get around these restrictions, then it was only natural. But these methods would not only be used for pornography, but for more serious and actively harmful criminal acts against the state. Anonymous in particular would swell with new recruits as they tested out their muscles, though some would inevitably get caught and be washed out. Even those not interested in pornography would find the basic usage of certain sites absolutely wrecked and several SFW sites shutting down.

Regardless, the most oppressed group out of all these would be queer communities of all sorts, as their basic existence on the internet would be called into question with the vague enough rules of the acts regulating pornography on the internet and the desire of the administration to stamp them out. They were actively harassed and prosecuted with this radicalizing countless people against the system, because even family and friends would be tarred under the same brush, though many of them would turn against the victims of this prosecution.

This all combined would lead to a perfect storm of factors that would lead to many forming and joining groups to protect themselves and act against their oppressors. Though some groups within the government would certainly look forward with glee towards cutting them down to size, after all how hard could it be?

It turns out, very hard.
 
If this had continued on its own Santorum likely would have been remembered as a flawed president, but not a especially heinous one. But instead of being remembered for class war or culture war the 5/13 Attacks in Saudi Arabia would end up making Santorum be remembered for the Third Phase of the War on Terror after Cheney's unfettered neoconservatism and Edwards's liberalism...
Oh boy, you do have a way of dropping some really worrying foreshadowing into each update.

We are already at war with Iraq, Afghanistan, and Sudan; how could he possibly make it any worse? What action would make him be remembered as heinous? The repeated mentions of his religiosity point in directions that spark a deep worry.
 
Oh boy, you do have a way of dropping some really worrying foreshadowing into each update.

We are already at war with Iraq, Afghanistan, and Sudan; how could he possibly make it any worse? What action would make him be remembered as heinous? The repeated mentions of his religiosity point in directions that spark a deep worry.
Bush agitated people with crusader rhetoric but also knew when to turn it off. Santorum...not so much.
 
Mitt Romney as Attorney General

Mitt Romney has what's called a JD-MBA, a combined law & business degree. I didn't actually think he had any kind of law degree, so I was weirded out by him as Attorney General.

Is this 2008 Romney, 2012 Romney, or post-2018 Romney?
 
Why do people still use the nickname "Frothy" for Santorum? It originated from someone who was banned from the site for spreading pro-Putin propaganda.
 
I don't really understand the reference but I also don't beleive in trying to expunge any cultural artifact made by someone who did wrongthink

Let's explain something. So the the nickname "Frothy" for Rick Santorum originated from a timeline on AH.com called No W. in which George W. Bush died and Cheney became President, very much like the beginning of this TL.

However, the TL had to be completed by someone else posting updates from another site, because the original poster was banned for spreading pro-Putin and pro-Xi propaganda, along with insulting western nations.
 
Frankly, the only reason he isn't called that IOTL is that his campaign got mauled in 2012 and sank without a trace in 2016. He wasn't a serious threat after that. Getting elected president in 2008/09 changes that, obviously.
 
Why do people still use the nickname "Frothy" for Santorum? It originated from someone who was banned from the site for spreading pro-Putin propaganda.

I don't really understand the reference but I also don't beleive in trying to expunge any cultural artifact made by someone who did wrongthink

Let's explain something. So the the nickname "Frothy" for Rick Santorum originated from a timeline on AH.com called No W. in which George W. Bush died and Cheney became President, very much like the beginning of this TL.
Frankly, the only reason he isn't called that IOTL is that his campaign got mauled in 2012 and sank without a trace in 2016. He wasn't a serious threat after that. Getting elected president in 2008/09 changes that, obviously.
It actually goes back further than that. In 2003, a New York Times columnist named Dan Savage published a rebuttal to some homophobic remarks made by Rick Santorum in an Associated Press interview. A reader of Savage's column sent him a letter suggesting that they create a contest to turn "Santorum" into a word with a vulgar meaning to humiliate the Senator. Savage agreed and allowed readers to send in their suggestions. The definition that won out was "that frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex". He then set up a website, spreadingsantorum.com, that consisted of the definition over a brown splattered stain on an otherwise-white page. He set up another website, santorum.com, that displayed the same content. By July 2006, the site appeared at the top of a Google search for Santorum's name.
 
Yeah, so it's pretty much inevitable, was my point, but thank you for properly dating the first instance of it, since I didn't recall how early it was.
 
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