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The Clocktower Institute of Magecraft (Nasuverse)

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FixerUpper said:
In a death game it might be better to start with something a little more balanced, imo.
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True, we'll practically collapse from a breeze :grin:
Though, magecraft (reinforcement or magical prowess) can make up for our poor physical skills until we train them up asap. If we avoid the more enforcer style magus, we should be able to cream the rest in magical duels.
Or if our wits and intelligence is high enough we can avoid the conflict entirely through talking.

Plan Lucky, which seems to be the one we're going for, would probably have Fate throw good opportunities at us and avoid bad ones
 
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Nightfallen said:
True, we'll practically collapse from a breeze :grin:
Though, magecraft (reinforcement or magical prowess) can make up for our poor physical skills until we train them up asap. If we avoid the more enforcer style magus, we should be able to cream the rest in magical duels.
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Just want to point out that, in this system, Reinforcement is multiplicative. Unless you become physically fit or extremely skilled in reinforcement, you won't be superhuman.
 
Nightfallen said:
True, we'll practically collapse from a breeze :grin:
Though, magecraft (reinforcement or magical prowess) can make up for our poor physical skills until we train them up asap. If we avoid the more enforcer style magus, we should be able to cream the rest in magical duels.
Or if our wits and intelligence is high enough we can avoid the conflict entirely through talking.

Plan Lucky, which seems to be the one we're going for, would probably have Fate throw good opportunities at us and avoid bad ones
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The thing is 99th percentile is all well and good, but it's still human 99th percentile. We shouldn't expect to be immensely better than someone in the 90th percentile or even 80th. Yes, a boxer in the 99th who goes up against a boxer in the 90th would beat him - but a boxer with physical stats in the 99th percentile and wit in the 10th is going to go down hard to someone who is relatively fit, but can actually think on their feet.

We're competing with people who are roughly analogous to us in power meaning they can do what we do. We aren't all that special - if we were, our family probably would not have sent us to camp deathschool. If we can use physical reinforcement - well, so can they. Hell, so could Shirou and he was literally so terrible at magic everyone who ever saw him practice went: what the hell are you doing. Even Sakura, and her training was basically: pain pain pain pain pain. I doubt we'll meet someone as gifted as Rin, but there's a strong possibility we'll meet someone who's better balanced and can kick our ass three ways to Sunday.

That being said, I still want to vote for plan lucky. I'm just, y'know, airing out some concerns because they are things we need to take into consideration. >_>
 
FixerUpper said:
The thing is 99th percentile is all well and good, but it's still human 99th percentile. We shouldn't expect to be immensely better than someone in the 90th percentile or even 80th. Yes, a boxer in the 99th who goes up against a boxer in the 90th would beat him - but a boxer with physical stats in the 99th percentile and wit in the 10th is going to go down hard to someone who is relatively fit, but can actually think on their feet.
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I'm not sure where you're going with that, because chances are excellent if that if being a boxer in the 99th percentile doesn't help you beat someone, being a boxer in the 99.9th percentile won't either. A-rank isn't EX-rank, it's still human, just 'one in a thousand mages' rather than 'one in a hundred mages'. There is no way to get EX-rank attributes at character creation.

The whole point of grabbing B-ranks is that they're superlative enough we can leverage them over ninety-nine out of a hundred other mages, whilst also cheap enough it gives us more ability to leverage other skills against the few people that match us at B-rank or exceed us at A-rank.

And it is fairly likely that many tasks will require ability in two areas. Consider a case like fighting where Strength and Agility apply almost equally, or mana where circuit quantity and quality apply almost equally. A simple look at the averages shows that someone with B-rank for both will beat 99% of other opponents, whereas someone with A and C rank will beat roughly 95% of other opponents.
 
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Plan Lucky is perfect. We're intelligent, have amazing Circuits and have better Luck than pretty much anyone we encounter. Keep in mind how all of these high skills are the kind that's very difficult to level up later, and the ones which are low we can always work on.
 
FixerUpper said:
That being said, I still want to vote for plan lucky. I'm just, y'know, airing out some concerns because they are things we need to take into consideration. >_>
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Definitely! ^.^
I meant reinforcement more as constant reinforcement that is necessary just for us to move around for strenuous activity — we'll basically be relying on our magic. We simply can't match anyone in physical combat at 10 percentile, even if they didn't use reinforcement.
(And everyone will :cry:)

I'm also kind of concerned about the Wits stat, some plans kind of neglect it but I feel it's somewhat necessary so we don't get outwitted and forced into a bad position while we're still growing (i.e. someone tricks us into signing a geas, etc)
While I hope we're not that dumb, E rank (10%) wits can be really dense.
I think D rank should be the minimum, given how other ancient families who are skilled in playing the game will be targeting us.
 
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Nightfallen said:
Definitely! ^.^
I meant reinforcement more as constant reinforcement that is necessary just for us to move around for strenuous activity — we'll basically be relying on our magic. We simply can't match anyone in physical combat at 10 percentile, even if they didn't use reinforcement.
(And everyone will :cry:)

I'm also kind of concerned about the Wits stat, some plans kind of neglect it but I feel it's somewhat necessary so we don't get outwitted and forced into a bad position while we're still growing, especially given magus culture and how other ancient families will be targeting us. (i.e. someone tricks us into signing a geas, etc)
While I hope we're not that dumb, E rank (10%) wits can be really dense.
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I think the key will be for us to do a bunch of fitness training right off the bat, simply improving our physical stats to D rank would make a huge difference. (10th percentile to 50th percentile) Also, the current leading plan (Lucky) has D rank wit, which is basically just average.
 
[X] Plan Lucky
I want to play a nasuverse character that isn't the universe's chew toy for once.
 
[X] Plan
Physical
Strength: B (3)
Endurance: C
Agility: C

Mental
Intelligence*: B (3)
Wits: C
Willpower: B (3)

Mystical
Circuit Quality*: B (3)
Circuit Quantity*: C
Luck*: B (3)

I rather not be a squishy wizard
 
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[X] Plan 99th Percentile

It seems to be the most balanced out of the lot.
 
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