The Beast Effect (ME/War Planets)

Screwball said:
They blew up a planet inside it, to no effect. They crashed a planet into it at what had to be a C fractional velocity, and apparently didn't even scratch it. It's hilariously contemptuous of attempts to damage it in any way. I would think that the only plausible way to beat it would be weapons that work by some process other than direct energy transfer. Stuff like 40k vortex weapons, 4th Imperium/Empire gravitonic warheads, Asgard go-away beams, that sort of thing. Just chucking stuff at it certainly appears to be useless.
True. I forget if the planet's explosion was still the size of the Alpha Relay's though, but the weird ass radiation from it might do something (perhaps destablize the Null Energy creating a chain reaction)?
 
From what I get, the main reason Null mater doesn't just vaporize everything it touches in the case of drones and the like walking, has to do with that 'genesis matrix' that holds them together.

Not a perfect one mind you. While they didn't bother animating it all the time, on more then one occasion they showed how they could 'track' signs of Beast activity by how they burnt footprints in the ground, or handprints in whatever they touched. It was even a major plot point for that one Jade was accused of murder on Fire.

I mean did they not basically replicate that containment shield, to provide a (limited) personal defense, late into the second season?

My guess is that the 'vaporize everything' energy blasts, outside of being something slightly different (they're called null energy, not null mater) deliberately skimp on the containment field for maximum destructive effect.

Also, Win! A War Planets/Shadow Raider fic! Finally! Will we be seeing some of the late season names?
 
Screwball said:
They blew up a planet inside it, to no effect. They crashed a planet into it at what had to be a C fractional velocity, and apparently didn't even scratch it. It's hilariously contemptuous of attempts to damage it in any way. I would think that the only plausible way to beat it would be weapons that work by some process other than direct energy transfer. Stuff like 40k vortex weapons, 4th Imperium/Empire gravitonic warheads, Asgard go-away beams, that sort of thing. Just chucking stuff at it certainly appears to be useless.
Narf the Mouse said:
My guess: It's void; you have to hit the weak spot.
Energy beam from combined crucible/citadel, perhaps.
 
Lure it through Omega 4 and into the black hole?
 
...Oh thank everything.

When i saw the first part of the title i thought it would be a homeworld crossover...
 
Jim Starluck said:
The various civilizations it devoured were more pests than anything else, just an obstacle to overcome in search of its next meal.
"Why do you do this?, why would you devour our planet?. We never declare war on you!?."

Beast Planet: "Its not a war. Its just pest control."
 
Nifty thing about Planet Bone, by fluff, everything they have is biotech, specifically, a type of near Ork like Moss, grafted to coral like 'bone' formations.

This apparently includes even their soldiers who are crafted ready to go, on mass.

...given their very similar functionality to 'normal' bone citizens, this raises questions as to just how their people replicate... specifically, how they are the only species we never see any 'female' examples of. Rock's people are very humanoid, Ice despite the fact it's gender differences are subtle as hell, actually has a lot of visible ones, once you pick up on the subtleties, and while fire females seem rare as hell, and well shielded within their society (likely a relation there, high gender disparity in species?) you see them on rare occasion.

Bone? Not a one.
 
Would a Mass Relay even work on the Beast? Like Noxturne said, it hangs out inside of suns - it can stand some pretty ridiculous gravity, and must have some pretty ridiculous gravity manipulation of its own. Mass Relays and the Mass Effect itself work by manipulating the mass of an object... is it possible that the Beast could resist being catapulted?
 
I edited the Prologue. I added in the Prison Planet, and I removed the implication the Cluster was on the Relay system.
Angelform said:
Only if they are one polity.
Post-Beast assault it might happen but if they meet the Council before almost getting eaten… not seeing it. Mantle and Femur will accept a peaceful treaty and cooperation but they would never give up their planet's sovereignty.
You have a point.
Noxturne90 said:
Could be a migratory cycle. Every time the Beast shows up, the "Cluster" has its unique planetary aspects rediscovered. At which point, the entire thing packs up and moves providing that there is a species capable of activating the engines.
I had an idea like that, how the Beast travels through several galaxies and is now returning to the Milky Way.
Mizuki_Stone said:
From what I get, the main reason Null mater doesn't just vaporize everything it touches in the case of drones and the like walking, has to do with that 'genesis matrix' that holds them together.

Not a perfect one mind you. While they didn't bother animating it all the time, on more then one occasion they showed how they could 'track' signs of Beast activity by how they burnt footprints in the ground, or handprints in whatever they touched. It was even a major plot point for that one Jade was accused of murder on Fire.

I mean did they not basically replicate that containment shield, to provide a (limited) personal defense, late into the second season?

My guess is that the 'vaporize everything' energy blasts, outside of being something slightly different (they're called null energy, not null mater) deliberately skimp on the containment field for maximum destructive effect.

Also, Win! A War Planets/Shadow Raider fic! Finally! Will we be seeing some of the late season names?
It's the same reason why on tv/movies ghosts don't sink through to the center of the Earth.

And am i really the first to write a War Planets story?
 
Harry Leferts said:
Apparently it just eats the planet's interior and leaves behind the crust and a null energy core inside it.
I don't think that's standard. Season 2's "Embers of the Past" says the Beast absorbs and learns from everything it consumes, so I'm thinking it recreates things rather than preserves them.
 
The tyranids? nay, orks? double nay. I got it!, its Genesis Rising humanity. Its what every genocidal race wanted to be if they grow up!.
 
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The Beast Effect: Golden Jubilation Part 2

Appropriately enough, the asteroid housing the Cluster Concord building orbited the middle of the system, between Rock and Bone. The Concord was established centuries earlier under the Treaty of Four where circumstance required the disparate worlds to put aside their differences and work towards a common cause. The last time the Concord convened was to establish a prison on the furthest world, to house their most vicious and deadly criminals.

It was a simple featureless gray hemisphere, with various utility buildings and a spaceport to receive the rulers, guards, and personal attendants. The blue tinge of the atmospheric barrier greeted the dignitaries as they made their way to the rare meeting.

The banners of all the homeworlds adorned the walls of the central hall. In its center stood a round table, so no one ruler had a spot of significance greater than any other. Audience seating was arranged in a circle around the table, allowing a small group to watch the proceedings, each species sitting in a wedge behind their respective ruler. The first rows belonged to royal family and honor guard. Small cameras hovered over the table, broadcasting to the rest of the Cluster.

"Thank you for coming to this Concord," opened King Cryos. He wore the deep blue and bright white his stature demanded in a dress uniform. "On this occasion we mark a Golden Jub--"

"Spare us the formalities, bug," interrupted Lord Mantle. His chiseled face looking like he wanted to be anywhere else rather than with his enemies, he wore a bejeweled vest and kilt made of sword-shaped slats, each etched with a stylized hammer. "Just tell us what your people have found."

"Very well," said Cryos, doing his best to ignore the rock lord's belligerence. "From what we've been able to discern, long before our peoples reached sentience, an alien empire ruled much of the galaxy. This empire comprised many species, all united under a single banner. The base on Planet Remora is one of their observation posts."

"Have you found a reason why the base was abandoned?" asked Emperor Incindius. Organic fire danced atop his head and inside his eyes. A long gold cloak adorned him and his staff of office he held in his left hand.

"More importantly, are they planning to return?" asked Mantle.

"The translation of the databases is progressing slowly. There are several areas we're locked out of, so we will not know for some time. And if they were planning to return, they would have long before we found their outpost."

"So you are saying you haven't found anything useful." said Mantle.

"The fact that there are other races beyond our Cluster is useful enough," said Incindius gently. "It gives us something to work towards together, to meet our cousins and shake their hands."

"All it does is invite more threats to my world. Rock is attacked enough, but they are still no threat for our Battle Moons."

"Gentlemen, please!" injected King Cryos. He looked over to Emperor Clavicle sitting opposite him, eating from a plate of tubeworms. "Clavicle, you've been strangely quiet. What are your thoughts on this?"

Clavicle's fleshy green body over-filled his chair, his radiator fins pressed against his back. He shoved another tubeworm in his mouth and stared at Cryos with large red eyes. "I can go either way: shake their hand, stab them in the back, whatever. But it won't matter if we can't get to them. It'll take generations just to reach the nearest star, so what point is any of this?"

"Apparently, this empire has mastered a form of faster-than-light travel," replied Cryos.

"Bah," said Clavicle, waving it off.

"Actual faster-than-light travel?" asked Incindius, intrigued.

"If the translation is accurate, there is a substance that can change an object's mass, allowing it to surpass light speed and travel to the stars in an appreciable timescale. Unfortunately, if the translation is accurate, most of this substance is locked in the cores of our homeworlds. Not even Rock's Quarriors can dig to the center of a planet."

"Like I said, there is nothing useful here," said Mantle, pushing a button on the table's control panel. "General Larvikite, send a Battle Moon to Planet Remora and await my orders."

"What madness!?" cried Cryos. "You have no right--"

Mantle stood up. "I will not have my time wasted on things I cannot use!" His voice echoed through the hall. Mantle turned his back on his peers and left the chamber, his honor guard following him.

"Well, this party's dying," said Clavicle, disappointment in his voice. "Femur! Sternum!"

The squat, fleshy Femur and his much taller, trimmer brother Sternum, the crown princes of Bone, rounded their father's chair and helped pull his great bulk to his feet. "Let's do this again sometime." The Bone delegation took their leave.

King Cryos sighed. "The madness continues. I should have seen this coming."

Emperor Incindius stood up with sadness on his face. "At least we tried to end it, if only for a while. I would have liked to have visited our cousins elsewhere in the galaxy."

"As would I," said Cryos. He raised his three-fingered hand to his mouth and exhaled a cloud of nano-mites. He then extended it towards the Emperor. The Emperor then shook it with his four-fingered hand. Cryos suppressed a grimace as the heat seared him.

"It is time to leave, Your Majesty," said his Vizier, holding his gnarled staff in his right hand. The Emperor nodded, and the Fire nation left the chamber.

King Cryos sighed again, mourning the lost chance.

* * *

An atmospheric barrier had been erected around the site, letting the scientists and soldiers work unaided and unencumbered. During the announcement and setup of the Concord, the other worlds had sent scientists to help in the decryption of the alien computers. It was slow going, but they were learning much, expanding their knowledge base by at least a century.

General Brumal continued to oversee the operation, when his communicator beeped.

"General, this is King Cryos."

"Yes, Your Highness."

"I am ordering an evacuation of the alien base. Lord Mantle has sent a Battle Moon to Remora and may plan to destroy the area."

"Damn him," cursed the general. "His madness grows worse."

"Indeed. Get everybody off as fast as you can and safely away before the moon arrives."

"Understood, Your Highness."

The general relayed orders to his troops, gathering the scientists and quickly escorting them back to the transport ships. The last blue slab lifted off the dead world right when a giant red sphere entered the sky.

Its front face had segmented yellow lines radiating from a raised yellow cylinder, one in each direction. Metal patchwork denoted buildings and small cities for Quarriors to live when stationed there.

"General Larvikite, open fire on the alien base," ordered Lord Mantle.

"Yes, My Lord."

The yellow segments started pulsing, building energy and transferring it to the central cylinder, the end of which glowed brighter and brighter. The energy then released all at once, as a of bright yellow beam hit the surface of Remora, carving a new canyon into it's face. The beam moved over kilometers, just to make sure the whole area was melted into slag.

The scientists of four worlds watched in horror as the most important find in their history, the last chance for the Cluster's madness to end, evaporated.


[Codex: The Cluster -> Planet Rock -> Rock Natives]
Developing on a mountainous and barren world, the people of Rock are bipedal humanoids, standing on average 2 meters tall. They have evolved with unusually high mineral content in their genetic structure, giving them the appearance that they are made of stone. Various minerals collect in their bodies and give the appearance of patches and veins of precious gems, jade, diamond, etc. They are capable of ingesting crystals if organic foodstuffs is unavailable.
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Again, please forgive the writing style.

Now that the setup for Season 1 is set, I can get to the meat of the story.
 
Whelp, that was hardheaded of old rocks for brains. Sadly IC for him as well...

Still I am sensing a strong possibility of Fire and Ice teaming up regardless, and now that they know of eezo, they might develop FTL regardless.

Then again even in the OTL Fire and Ice seemed to be on better terms then most... though that could just be a result of Pyros being highly optimistic, and Cryos being very reasonable.

Still, it would be a powerful team up. If only because they could reinvest a massive percentage of their military strength to dealing with the other two.

Seriously, if they hadn't gone with the 'no more raids' thing for political reasons, they could very well have forced Rock to join by force of arms in the original series just by the sheer pressure the combined three worlds could levy on them. Battle moons are frightening and impressive, but not impervious (as demonstrated in series).
 
Anvil said:
Read through a havent really much knowledge of the War planets universe.
I liked the madness element of eternal war aspect of the fic so far.
But it just seemed kind weak and pathetic to just abandon the promethium base with out a good fight.
I hope thats not a trend starter on that account.
This is largely because your not quite taking in the strategic situation in fully. Battle moons are a big freaking deal, they can level insanely heavy fire upon single points, and basicly smash any single hardened target on their own. We've seen them taken down two ways, through infultration of the command/control center on the moon themselves, and planet killing firepower. Even the latter isn't 100% reliably due to the sheer sheild strengh on them.

Now these sheilds arn't infalable, they don't seem to be very well suited to preventing boarding actions as the series has demonstrated, but they do work well to massed fire.

This basicly lets Rock hold a sort of mixed strategic advantage. If they ever got pushed to far, they could unleash the battle moons to level cities, vital millitary bases, etc, but likewise, if they did, they would risk their primary defense (the moons themselves) would be placed at risk to smallcraft slipping in and messing them up.
 
Narf the Mouse said:
...What if both the Beast Planet and the Reapers are trying to preserve against an even worse threat?
So the Reapers fight the Beast, the Beast fights the Anti-Spirals, and the Anti-Spirals fight the Spiral Nemesis?
Noxturne90 said:
Its recycling its food source.
That sounds like plausible science, but I want to keep it simple. "Space is big..." and all that.
 
What I am interested in knowing is just how much data and materials the scientists managed to remove and/or copy from the base before Mantle had it destroyed. Remember the base was abandoned after the courier ship informed them of the war with the Reapers and that information could have been retained.
 
Angelform said:
Can't say it wasn't in character.

Sigh… the Battle Moons were always one of the big plot holes in the series. They are invulnerable to conventional attacks and boarding means attacking a massive and heavily entrenched fortress. So what exactly was stopping Rock from simply sending a few Moons to batter the other planets into rubble?

Very interested in how much loot the scientists managed to rip out of the place, both since they found it and in the final mad dash.
Hope we get to see Mantle's reaction to learning how much non-enzo tech Ice got… that he now can't. Ice already has a tech edge in the series (nanobots FTW) and it just got worse.
The Battle Moons are a limited resource. Rock only has five of them and can't build more. If Rock deploys one to another planet, it leaves a gaping hole in its own defenses that can be exploited by any of the others.
 
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