This is a mess bad enough that it shows their entire government can't being trusted. If they weren't the main military force i could see them be kicked off the council.arthurh3535 said:
Terran Ingenuity (Starcraft x Mass Effect)
- Thread starter Xeno Major
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Yes, but the humans in Mass Effect didn't have FTL communications, the Terrans do. So even if the Turians were able to get the fleet together in a few hours the Terrans should have still known about the destruction of the BC and science ship.arthurh3535 said:
Also considering that the Terrains have a different tech base then them they for all they could know could have been attacking a colony of a Species that rivaled Citadel space in size. Heck for all they know they could be even bigger. So yeah I expect there to be major conquences for the Turians.
Arthur Hansen
Author of no Authority.
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??? Mass Effect has FTL communication, it's just through mini-relays that speed up the signals to FTL from point to point. You upload your message to a buoy and it zaps it across the network at FTL speed.Vaermina said:
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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Well, as the Mass Effect Universe the Asari seem to be able to sex up/talk anyone into anything this sort of situation happening over and over again works out quite well. The Turians are the 'bad cop'/rabid guard dog that goes around smashing the upstart races that look like they are getting ahead of the Citadel Council/breaking laws they have no idea exist to take as slave races. If they get defeated, oh well too bad that's Turian cultural business and not something we can interfer in. And if they do ifght off the first wave the Asari come in all smiles, apologizing deeply for the horrible misunderstanding, slap the Turians involved with some meaningless charge that actual looks bad to the new kids and invites them to join the Citadel.Nightblade said:
(Why yes I don't think too much of the races and governments in Mass Effect, is it hard to tell?)
Edit:That already happened NightBlade with the Rachni wars. Yes they fought the Citadel but the Asari's diplomatic/coercion methods probably just didn't really work so they simply recorded history as the Rachni being completely bloodthirsty and not willing to talk.
And that is going to bite the Asari in the ass one day. Cause the Turians could end pissing of a species big enough and advanced enough to kick the entire Citadel's ass in a war.
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Yes, but the humans didn't have the technology for it then, remember this was like 20-30 years before the events in the series.arthurh3535 said:
I'm pretty sure the Terrans (Humans) on the Star Craft side have FTL communications.Vaermina said:
Arthur Hansen
Author of no Authority.
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This ignores that Sovereign sicced the Rachni on Citadel Space and had them mostly indoctrinated. ME1 was actually like just 'another' in a series of attempts to get control of the Citadel itself.jwolfe said:
Then they deserve what happens to them. Also to my Knowledge the Rachni attacked first. The Terrans did not.jwolfe said:
Xeno Major
Sensei Rower
Vaermina said:
Vaermina, what are you saying?
This is not Mass Effect Canon, this is a 'fic. It doesn't matter what the canon Humans had, because this is not canon.
The Turians have FTL Comms.
Even though the Terrans do have FTL comms, they also weren't constantly checking up on the Magellan. When the Turians found the Magellan and the Admonisher, they managed to take out both ships before they could get off a signal.
Call it incompetence on the part of the Captains, equipment trouble during battle, or Turians jamming the signal (unlikely), but they simply didn't get a signal off.
Case Closed.
Take the discussion about canon out of this thread, please. Debating on how the Council will deal with the Terrans is perfectly OK, but bitching about canon is not.Nightblade said:
Will drop it.Xeno Major said:
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Um I was saying the ME Humans didn't have FTL comms at that time, I never mentioned the Turians.Xeno Major said:
Vaermina, what are you saying?
This is not Mass Effect Canon, this is a 'fic. It doesn't matter what the canon Humans had, because this is not canon.
The Turians have FTL Comms.
The ME Humans don't exist here and are thus, not relevant. Just saying.Vaermina said:Um I was saying the ME Humans didn't have FTL comms at that time, I never mentioned the Turians.
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Doubtful, they just escaped from the Dominion so the only young men around are likely to be former mercs or farmers.The Unicorn said:
Because Terran bars are reinforced so people in power armor can use them.
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Why exactly would those children join the militia when there is nobody around for them to fight?The Unicorn said:
Actually many old style western bars had giant windows on their front wall that people could see out of.
Xeno Major
Sensei Rower
They're trying to rebuild their society. While the kids do get lessons on target shooting from both the militia and (usually) their parents, the main priority for them is education and work. Even a kid can use a welder and slatp together a ramshackle neo-steel (they have a lot of extra neo-steel) building with enough training.The Unicorn said:
The colonists line of thought is to use the neo-steel for the first wave of structures, then once the industry really gets started, to use much cheaper materials. It's worth noting that when they left the Koprulu sector, they filled every bit of cargo space with anything useful.
Mainly because he thought he'd left behind the life of a soldier. With the new colony, many of the colonists allowed themselves to relax, opening up their emotions for the first time in decades. The fact that they've been caught up in war yet again is hitting them hard.The Unicorn said:
This, alas, falls under Rule of Cool.The Unicorn said:
His armor could have rebooted just as he was shot, and thus his lack of balance knocked it over; or perhaps I'm way too lazy to do the force calculations to see if the armor would actually be knocked over. There's a few odd explanations, but the final reason is that it looks better.
It's not getting changed.
Because he's out of practice, and spent too much time worrying about the strategic situation rather than about his personal location. Back during any one of the numerous wars that the Terrans have gone through, he would have done both effortlessly.The Unicorn said:
Again, Rule of Cool.The Unicorn said:
Would you rather read about how every death results in a person falling down with spikes sticking out of him, or have some of them explode in a bloody mist? Adds a little variety to the mix.
The dog tags are around the neck. That's way Raynor lifted their visors, so that he can take the tags.The Unicorn said:
Yup.The Unicorn said:
Let's look at Raynor's record here, from a personal standpoint. Just to keep it short, we'll limit it to the games, otherwise I might as well just quote Raynor's wiki entry.
Raynor takes care of Mara Sara colonists, only for the Zerg to attack. He fights off the Zerg, but the Confederates punish him in response. To save as as many people as possible, he throws his group in with Mengsk's Sons of Korhal. Despite a good start at Antiga, Mengsk soon proves to be just as bad as the Confederates.
Raynor's trust in authority is gone, and he doubts that he can be any better.
Then he loses Kerrigan, and the guilt that he was unable to save her is the new focal point for his character (until the end of WoL, that is). He leaves Mengsk, and joins up with Tassadar, and then meets Artanis (in his role as Starcraft's Executor) and Fenix.
By the end of the First Great War, he's lost his world, his lover, and most of his friends. Tassadar gives his life to defeat the Overmind, his former love Kerrigan kills his new best friend Fenix, and he's all that's left.
For brevity's sake, I'll stay out of WoL.
Every time he's in command, bad shit happens.
It's not a surprise that Raynor would rather do menial labor as both Marshal and as a general laborer, then spend his nights in the bar. He doesn't like being in command.
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That cutscene (Fire and Fury, for those curious) is what I'm basing that color off.deathzealotzero said:
Mar Sara was re-colonized, but I think that the black coloration of their armor is in response to the original loss of their world. The two Marines we see from Mar Sara wear black, so it's an easy assumption to make.
Huh... I could have sworn that I noticed and fixed that error whilst editing. Oh well, fixed now.deathzealotzero said:
Thanks for noticing, those small bits help me out a lot.
Xeno Major
Sensei Rower
*shrug*Cyrus 21 said:
It's the Koprulu Sector. It's not a nice place.
Still, the setting is a good example of the Principal Law of Dakka.
Principal Law of Dakka: With enuff Dakka, you can do anything.
(There is a clear distinction between enuff Dakka and Enuff Dakka, as everyone knows.)
Cyrus 21
Kamen Rider/Spirit of Chaos
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When in doubt, use more gun.Xeno Major said:
Well, mostly impervious to damage, like with nearly all things, throwing a big enough rock at them causes a bang. A big bang.SableCold said:
You forgot at least one other SC character who could probably talk her down, Michael Daniel Liberty is someone who could probably pull it off as well.Obfuscated said:
