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Symphogear MHX - There's Nothing Left But To Pick Up The Pieces...

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@Swordomatic Do you want to us to vote on plans or in terms of "the top five go first"?

Here's my plan, btw.

[X] Plan: Maximum Specialization
-[X] Focus on physical conditioning. Get that physicality up to standard so you can keep up with your own Symphogear. Or, you know, for your own health. (New!)
-[X] Every Harmonizer trains with their Relic, looking to deepen their connection with their Symphogear and unleash more of their potential, be it in raw synch ratio, abilities, or expressions. The ways to increase synchronicity are as varied as Harmonizers themselves; spend time looking for yours. (New!)
-[X] You fight like a drunkard. Which is fair, you learned to scrap on the schoolyard, not in a dojo. But now your future is the battlefield, and while most people don't bring swords to a gunfight, most people are also not bulletproof and superhumanly fast. Time to get better. (New!)
-[X] You might be a Symphogear now but you're also a singer. Go see your vocal coach and improve. You won't get better without practice, magic singing armor or not. (New!)
-[X] Okay. You know a bit about Symphogears. You've worn one in combat, and while it was hectic at the time the feeling was actually kind of nice. But what is a Symphogear? What is its history, its abilities, and so on and so forth? There's probably a library and you're probably cleared. Proceed. (New!)
 
Clearly that Arms Dealer need to branch out into Legwork now.
As for what do....
[X]Khona Moshr
Because I really do need to apologize to you for that whole 'fame overshadowing' thing.
 
The Name of Love said:
Hm... this seems like an interesting idea. I think we should review.

I think we should check our synchronicity. It's our best stat, so we should obviously try to make it better since it is our specialty. We want to draw out our characters' maximum potential, so seeing what high synchronization can do would really help.

The three other things we should be working on in terms of training are physical training, sword training, and vocal training. We don't need to get more goodies with our Armed Gear until we improve those three.

The last one is a toss-up between learning what is a Symphogear (to see how much this universe deviates from canon) and doing some stuff with Aaron to increase our fame.

What do you guys think?
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Well, I've already posted my opinion, but I'll reiterate. Shoring up the two areas of combat we are absolutely hopeless in - fighting style and Symphogear operation (and the latter is SUPER FUCKING VITAL because that is the source of 99% of a Symphogear's bullshit tricks and we are completely incapable of it so doing both the weapon and the armor training is vital) should be our top priority, above anything else available to us.

Our Synch stat is literally described as legendary on our character sheet so we can forget about that for now, while our physical capabilities aren't good enough, which is a serious issue, but hopefully working on our fighting style will go some way to improving that. And our singing is good enough for the moment.

Your plan includes neither of the Gear familiarization options, which is...suboptimal, to put it nicely.

Meanwhile we know nobody but our immediate allies in our organization, and we know jack shit about Symphogears. We should fix that, but it's on a lower priority than learning how to actually Symphogear properly.
 
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[X] Plan git gud, git known
-[X] Your Armed Gear is currently a sword. A fancy sword, forged from blue steel and almost as tall as you are - the handle in particular is insane - but there's more to it than that. It can be more. You just need to figure out how. (New!)
-[X] You have a Symphogear. A Symphogear moves their operator as much as the operator commands the Symphogear - that's the entire point of Power Armor - so your job is therefore to figure out how to move better.Squeeze out more power, more efficiency, and someday jet thrusters. (New!)
-[X] You fight like a drunkard. Which is fair, you learned to scrap on the schoolyard, not in a dojo. But now your future is the battlefield, and while most people don't bring swords to a gunfight, most people are also not bulletproof and superhumanly fast. Time to get better. (New!)
-[X] You can go meet and greet the staff; the only people you've met so far are Ilya and Sofia and your bosses, but there's bound to be more people in the STS. Who knows? You might find someone interesting. (New!)
-[X] Okay. You know a bit about Symphogears. You've worn one in combat, and while it was hectic at the time the feeling was actually kind of nice. But what isa Symphogear? What is its history, its abilities, and so on and so forth? There's probably a library and you're probably cleared. Proceed. (New!)
 
[X] Plan git gud, git known
-[X] Your Armed Gear is currently a sword. A fancy sword, forged from blue steel and almost as tall as you are - the handle in particular is insane - but there's more to it than that. It can be more. You just need to figure out how.(New!)
-[X] You have a Symphogear. A Symphogear moves their operator as much as the operator commands the Symphogear - that's the entire point of Power Armor - so your job is therefore to figure out how to move better.Squeeze out more power, more efficiency, and someday jet thrusters. (New!)
-[X] You fight like a drunkard. Which is fair, you learned to scrap on the schoolyard, not in a dojo. But now your future is the battlefield, and while most people don't bring swords to a gunfight, most people are also not bulletproof and superhumanly fast. Time to get better. (New!)
-[X] You can go meet and greet the staff; the only people you've met so far are Ilya and Sofia and your bosses, but there's bound to be more people in the STS. Who knows? You might find someone interesting. (New!)
-[X] Okay. You know a bit about Symphogears. You've worn one in combat, and while it was hectic at the time the feeling was actually kind of nice. But what isa Symphogear? What is its history, its abilities, and so on and so forth? There's probably a library and you're probably cleared. Proceed. (New!)

We are currently a scrub, and therefore should git gud.
 
GilliamYaeger said:
Well, I've already posted my opinion, but I'll reiterate. Shoring up the two areas of combat we are absolutely hopeless in - fighting style and Symphogear operation (and the latter is SUPER FUCKING VITAL because that is the source of 99% of a Symphogear's bullshit tricks and we are completely incapable of it so doing both the weapon and the armor training is vital) should be our top priority, above anything else available to us.

Our Synch stat is literally described as legendary on our character sheet so we can forget about that for now, while our physical capabilities aren't good enough, which is a serious issue, but hopefully working on our fighting style will go some way to improving that. And our singing is good enough for the moment.

Your plan includes neither of the Gear familiarization options, which is...suboptimal, to put it nicely.

Meanwhile we know nobody but our immediate allies in our organization, and we know jack shit about Symphogears. We should fix that, but it's on a lower priority than learning how to actually Symphogear properly.
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First of all, a legendary synch stat means NOTHING if we don't even know how to use it. Second of all, our physical capabilities need improvement since that is THE number one thing that makes a difference in Symphogear besides Synch stat. I disagree with you that armed gear training is necessary for now. We need to get our fighting style and physical training down pat before we can learn to do fancy things with our Armed Gear.

Also, singing is important for us to train. You can never be too good at it, especially since our idol career depends on it.

The problem with your way is that you seem to want us to be a jack of all trades, master of none. Let's focus on making the stats that we have that are good even better while training bad stats only so far as we need them. Specialization is better than being good at everything.
 
I don't care enough to make a plan, but I'm going to be really disappointed if you guys don't get up to some net idol activities. Doing stupid stuff really is a perfect career fit for her.
 
pressea said:
I don't care enough to make a plan, but I'm going to be really disappointed if you guys don't get up to some net idol activities. Doing stupid stuff really is a perfect career fit for her.
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Don't worry. We can do stupid stuff in the future. We do have a radio interview this week. So long as we do one stupid thing per week, that'll make us the talk of the town. Plus, Aaron's job ideas might be better in the long run.
 
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The Name of Love said:
First of all, a legendary synch stat means NOTHING if we don't even know how to use it. Second of all, our physical capabilities need improvement since that is THE number one thing that makes a difference in Symphogear besides Synch stat. I disagree with you that armed gear training is necessary for now. We need to get our fighting style and physical training down pat before we can learn to do fancy things with our Armed Gear.

Also, singing is important for us to train. You can never be too good at it, especially since our idol career depends on it.

The problem with your way is that you seem to want us to be a jack of all trades, master of none. Let's focus on making the stats that we have that are good even better while training bad stats only so far as we need them. Specialization is better than being good at everything.
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I'd personally like to learn what the fuck we're doing before we even think about specialization. Once we know that yes, we can make a billion swords, or a giant rocket powered surfsword, or that we can fire Excaliblasts, then we can think about specializing. I just want that basic stuff out of the way as soon as possible so we're not completely helpless. Focusing on something right out of the gate when we're incapable of literally any of a Symphogear's signiature abilities is foolishness.

Physical training is definitely a priority for me, but I feel it can wait for the moment. We did pretty well on our first outing and I don't think we'd need to push ourselves any further than that anytime soon. But after this first week I'll definitely be pushing for the phys training option as much as possible.

And we can't make our Synch stat any better. It's literally maxed out. It's incapable of going any higher. Doing the synch training option would definitely unlock some kind of serious shit as we hit 100% synch with our weapon and probably blow some observation equipment in the process, but I'd kind of like to have a grounding in exactly what the fuck we're doing before we try that out, yeah? No use having a revelation or something if you don't understand what you're looking at.

Singing...yeah, disregarding our professional singing career is probably not a good idea. But as I keep saying, I want all the basic orientation stuff out of the way this week, which means at the least we take the Armed Gear and Armor training so we know how to shot web, the 'learn what the fuck a Symphogear even is' option so we know what we can do (which will help us learn to shot web), and the base staff familiarization option so we know who the persons of interest are.

That's four actions out of five that I feel are absolutely mandatory to do at least once, and the sooner they're done the better off we'll be.

Our fifth action can be anything. My preference is on learning how to fight, so we can get that done with the rest of our basic training, but I'd be happy with anything as long as the other four are locked in.
 
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Swordomatic said:
Zwei Wing's having a concert in a few months,
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Wait, what?

But Kanade is dead!

There's only own wing left, and she went solo under her own name (but sometimes collaborates with Maria). The Zwei Wing name should have been retired by now.
Swordomatic said:
[] Focus on physical conditioning. Get that physicality up to standard so you can keep up with your own Symphogear. Or, you know, for your own health. (New!)
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Would this also improve our ability to do stuff on stage as an idol?
GilliamYaeger said:
Our Synch stat is literally described as legendary on our character sheet so we can forget about that for now, while our physical capabilities aren't good enough, which is a serious issue, but hopefully working on our fighting style will go some way to improving that. And our singing is good enough for the moment.
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The Name of Love said:
First of all, a legendary synch stat means NOTHING if we don't even know how to use it.
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To take advantage of our bullshit sync rate, what we should actually do is go do library research about how symphogears actually work. Find out IC about the hax that the other known example of a bullshit sync rate has accomplished by abusing their sync rate.

At the very least, it should tell as about swan songs and that bullshit sync rate reduces the backlash so much that they don't need to be a last resort.
 
GilliamYaeger said:
I'd personally like to learn what the fuck we're doing before we even think about specialization. Once we know that yes, we can make a billion swords, or a giant rocket powered surfsword, or that we can fire Excaliblasts, then we can think about specializing. I just want that basic stuff out of the way as soon as possible so we're not completely helpless. Focusing on something right out of the gate when we're incapable of literally any of a Symphogear's signiature abilities is foolishness.
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And that's my issue. What you are talking about is advanced, high-tier stuff that isn't basic at all! I focused on the basic stuff, you seem to want to imitate people who have been using Symphogears for years. Sorry, but creating multiple swords is not something I consider a basic skill.

Focusing on something from the start is the best way to eliminate confusion ahead of time. And I want to be focused on getting out one sword in an extremely reliable way.

GilliamYaeger said:
And we can't make our Synch stat any better. It's literally maxed out. It's incapable of going any higher. Doing the synch training option would definitely unlock some kind of serious shit as we hit 100% synch with our weapon and probably blow some observation equipment in the process, but I'd kind of like to have a grounding in exactly what the fuck we're doing before we try that out, yeah? No use having a revelation or something if you don't understand what you're looking at.
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Synchronization training is the only way we learn what the heck synchronization even means. And our synchronization is legendary, but we don't know how to use it. Training is the only way how.

justinkal said:
Wait, what?

But Kanade is dead!

There's only own wing left, and she went solo under her own name (but sometimes collaborates with Maria). The Zwei Wing name should have been retired by now.
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This is an AU. Circumstances could be different from canon.

justinkal said:
To take advantage of our bullshit sync rate, what we should actually do is go do library research about how symphogears actually work. Find out IC about the hax that the other known example of a bullshit sync rate has accomplished by abusing their sync rate.

At the very least, it should tell as about swan songs and that bullshit sync rate reduces the backlash so much that they don't need to be a last resort.
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We have to do what you said AND we have to train in it too.
 
The Name of Love said:
And that's my issue. What you are talking about is advanced, high-tier stuff that isn't basic at all! I focused on the basic stuff, you seem to want to imitate people who have been using Symphogears for years. Sorry, but creating multiple swords is not something I consider a basic skill.

Focusing on something from the start is the best way to eliminate confusion ahead of time. And I want to be focused on getting out one sword in an extremely reliable way.



Synchronization training is the only way we learn what the heck synchronization even means. And our synchronization is legendary, but we don't know how to use it. Training is the only way how.



This is an AU. Circumstances could be different from canon.



We have to do what you said AND we have to train in it too.
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If Kanade was still alive, things would be way different. Things aren't different enough for that to be the case.

We should wait to do that training until after research tells us what we could actually achieve. Shouldn't waste time on that type of training if we don't get anything useful to that topic from our research.
 
justinkal said:
If Kanade was still alive, things would be way different. Things aren't different enough for that to be the case.

We should wait to do that training until after research tells us what we could actually achieve. Shouldn't waste time on that type of training if we don't get anything useful to that topic from our research.
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We know that:
  • Hibiki is a Symphogear user
  • Fine is dead
  • The existence of Symphogears are widely known.
  • Dr. Ver is incarcerated
  • Alca-Noise are a known threat
  • K2 got its top blown off
  • There are six other Symphogear besides the three in this story, and they all work for a group called S.O.N.G.
  • Those six Symphogear users have Ignite Mode
  • Those six Symphogear users have used X-Drive three times before.
All in all, this appears to be taking place between GX and AXZ. The only AU element so far (besides the existence of the characters in this story) is that Zwei Wing is still a thing in spite of Kanade being dead.

Speculate away!
 
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The Name of Love said:
Don't worry. We can do stupid stuff in the future. We do have a radio interview this week. So long as we do one stupid thing per week, that'll make us the talk of the town. Plus, Aaron's job ideas might be better in the long run.
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I specifically mean doing Youtube stuff as a net idol, and you're never going to have a popular channel with an upload rate that anemic. Doing it as a side job to a normal idol career is not really the same thing.

But again, I'm too lazy to vote so feel free to disregard this. Back to lurking.
 
pressea said:
I specifically mean doing Youtube stuff as a net idol, and you're never going to have a popular channel with an upload rate that anemic. Doing it as a side job to a normal idol career is not really the same thing.
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We could start a YouTube channel after we feel out what we want to get out of training. We could even put the Radio Interview on our YouTube channel!
 
The Name of Love said:
And that's my issue. What you are talking about is advanced, high-tier stuff that isn't basic at all! I focused on the basic stuff, you seem to want to imitate people who have been using Symphogears for years. Sorry, but creating multiple swords is not something I consider a basic skill.
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Dual welding is like, the least impressive thing Tsubasa is capable of, and creating a large amount of ordinance is the most absolute basic of tenents when you're using Ichival. Creating multiple weapons isn't anything special for certain Symphogears, and we don't know if Caliburn is one of them. Hell, we don't even know anything about Caliburn. Which is my problem.

The Name of Love said:
Focusing on something from the start is the best way to eliminate confusion ahead of time. And I want to be focused on getting out one sword in an extremely reliable way.
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You're suggesting that we dedicate our time and resources to specialization before we even know what we're capable of. Okay, then. Let's engage in a thought exercise for a moment - what happens if we dedicate our resources to learning how to wield our sword in a traditional manner, and then when we finally bother to learn what Caliburn's capabilities actually are, it turns out that it does something completely crazy, like, I dunno, it's meant to hover around us and wield itself as it supplements our unarmed strikes with independent sword attacks? That'd mean we'd just completely wasted our time learning a fighting style we can't even use while utilizing Caliburn's abilities when we could have been learning how to fight properly with Caliburn's abilities in mind from the very start.

That hypothetical situation is what I mean to avoid by getting the basic orientation out of the way before we dedicate ourselves to anything. I honestly don't expect Caliburn to do anything that crazy, but I at least want to learn how to use it properly before we do anything else. We familiarize ourselves with our armor, with what Symphogears are reported to be capable of, and most importantly with what kinds of stuff we can pull off with our weaponry before we try to specialize in anything. There's no point in deciding what you're going to focus on when you don't know what you even can focus on. I mean shit, a chunk of the stuff on our character sheet basically reads as "You can't do this because you have no idea it even exists." We need to at least fix that before committing to anything.
 
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[X] Plan: Maximum Specialization

A generalist build doesn't appeal to me. I wanna do one thing the best it was ever done.

Also Arron you slick motherfucker I think I'm in love.
 
I definitely feel that focusing on Gear only isn't a good choice. At least one slot must be dedicated to singing. One way or another.
 
GilliamYaeger said:
Dual welding is like, the least impressive thing Tsubasa is capable of, and creating a large amount of ordinance is the most absolute basic of tenents when you're using Ichival. Creating multiple weapons isn't anything special for certain Symphogears, and we don't know if Caliburn is one of them. Hell, we don't even know anything about Caliburn. Which is my problem.


You're suggesting that we dedicate our time and resources to specialization before we even know what we're capable of. Okay, then. Let's engage in a thought exercise for a moment - what happens if we dedicate our resources to learning how to wield our sword in a traditional manner, and then when we finally bother to learn what Caliburn's capabilities actually are, it turns out that it does something completely crazy, like, I dunno, it's meant to hover around us and wield itself as it supplements our unarmed strikes with independent sword attacks? That'd mean we'd just completely wasted our time learning a fighting style we can't even use while utilizing Caliburn's abilities when we could have been learning how to fight properly with Caliburn's abilities in mind from the very start.

That hypothetical situation is what I mean to avoid by getting the basic orientation out of the way before we dedicate ourselves to anything. I honestly don't expect Caliburn to do anything that crazy, but I at least want to learn how to use it properly before we do anything else. We familiarize ourselves with our armor, with what Symphogears are reported to be capable of, and most importantly with what kinds of stuff we can pull off with our weaponry before we try to specialize in anything. There's no point in deciding what you're going to focus on when you don't know what you even can focus on. I mean shit, a chunk of the stuff on our character sheet basically reads as "You can't do this because you have no idea it even exists." We need to at least fix that before committing to anything.
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We do know what we specialize in: synchronization. Duh. You are just talking nonsense at this point.

That's why we are going to go into training it: to see what it even does. Your way of doing things would have us not use it at all. I can't agree to that.

Also, creating multiple armed gears is not basic in my book. Like, at all. Learning a fighting style is.

justinkal said:
The problem is that we don't even know the basics of anything yet.

We haven't gone through basic training yet.
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I have us going through physical exercise, learning a fighting style, and voice lessons. We are also testing our synchronization to see how best to utilize our best stat (because only someone who has no idea what they are doing doesn't use their best stat).
 
Just an aside, but given our high sync?

Let's not become a liar.

Caliburn shattered in Arthur's hands after he broke his word of honor before a battle.

We don't want that to happen to us.
 
NHO said:
I definitely feel that focusing on Gear only isn't a good choice. At least one slot must be dedicated to singing. One way or another.
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The cat nerd speaks Truth.

[X] Plan An Officer And A Scholar (Also An Idol)
-[X] Your Armed Gear is currently a sword. A fancy sword, forged from blue steel and almost as tall as you are - the handle in particular is insane - but there's more to it than that. It can be more. You just need to figure out how.
-[X] You have a Symphogear. A Symphogear moves their operator as much as the operator commands the Symphogear - that's the entire point of Power Armor - so your job is therefore to figure out how to move better.Squeeze out more power, more efficiency, and someday jet thrusters.
-[X] You can go meet and greet the staff; the only people you've met so far are Ilya and Sofia and your bosses, but there's bound to be more people in the STS. Who knows? You might find someone interesting.
-[X] Okay. You know a bit about Symphogears. You've worn one in combat, and while it was hectic at the time the feeling was actually kind of nice. But what is a Symphogear? What is its history, its abilities, and so on and so forth? There's probably a library and you're probably cleared. Proceed.
-[X] Aaron's always going on and on about the thousands of tiny jobs here and there he wants you to do. A night at a restaurant here, a social gathering there, a photoshoot in between… You might as well humor him from time to time. Work does help word get around.

I think GilliamYaeger has mostly the right idea (which is why it's basically the same as their plan asides from the fight slot being swapped with sing), but we should really give time to our career, see how our schedule needs to balance out since the Zwei Wing Concert is the goal at the moment. We can put in time next week to shape up a specific fighting style after we have a better grasp of the basic Symphogear abilities.

P.S. By the way Swordomatic, speaking as someone who really liked their weapon idea, can we suggest Armed Gear forms to you? I understand if we can't, but I'm hoping you're interested.
 
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NHO said:
I definitely feel that focusing on Gear only isn't a good choice. At least one slot must be dedicated to singing. One way or another.
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I feel fine with ignoring singing (for this week at least) because we've already got two guaranteed events idol-side - we just did some karaoke, and we've got a radio interview coming up. I'd like to keep that pace, at least one or two idol-side events per turn, one way or another.

The Name of Love said:
We do know what we specialize in: synchronization. Duh. You are just talking nonsense at this point.

That's why we are going to go into training it: to see what it even does. Your way of doing things would have us not use it at all. I can't agree to that.
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On the contrary. I feel that familiarizing ourself with our Symphogear before we touch the synch option is a really good idea. We are probably only going to do the synch option once, because our stat is already maxed out. In order to get the most out of that action, I feel it necessary to have a firm grounding in what our Symphogear's capabilities are, which means we do both the gear familiarization trainings and the theory work beforehand. Understanding what a Symphogear is and how it works with some hands-on experience should give us at least some context to what we'll be gaining from our flawless synch ratios. Which means we'll need to use up three action slots beforehand.

In addition to that, we need to meet our coworkers, which will take up another action.

Finally, I personally feel we should get started on formalised combat training, while @Dramon Creator above thinks we should do some idol work. Either way, I think synch can wait until next week, when we'll be fully prepared to get the most out of it.
 
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