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I just realized hate groups imagine themselves to be the Resistance in Young Adult Dystopias. The last line against mortal doom.
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Thank you for pointing this out, tesla.

Your observation means I am no longer stuck on what to bring to my casual writing group tomorrow. I am going to pen a short story that starts out seemingly like a cliche YA dystopic story then turns on its head and reverses who's right and wrong.
 
Thank you for pointing this out, tesla.

Your observation means I am no longer stuck on what to bring to my casual writing group tomorrow. I am going to pen a short story that starts out seemingly like a cliche YA dystopic story then turns on its head and reverses who's right and wrong.

Glad it helped! Just remember to show us too, when you're done!
 
If its a deconstruction, wouldn't the teen rebellion just suffer horribly and fail?

Of course, that's a pretty terrible moral to take home. "Don't oppose the government, you'll die in a ditch alone and forgotten."
 
If its a deconstruction, wouldn't the teen rebellion just suffer horribly and fail?

Of course, that's a pretty terrible moral to take home. "Don't oppose the government, you'll die in a ditch alone and forgotten."
Well, the rebellion could have broken something good or average, and lived scot free in a deconstruction. Like the idea I posted on #49.
 
True-true.

I was more referring to a rebellion against your generic, all-powerful, all-knowing, fascistic regime common to the genre.
 
When I think of real world "teen rebellions", my mind wanders to stuff like the punk culture, underground movements like Riot grrrl, or perhaps even the anti-war movements that developed in the sixties.

Even if teen rebellion fizzles out or fails to meet its goal that's not necessarily the end of the road. Ex-rebels often move on and become influential in their own right, and on a non-personal scale such movements often set significant historical milestones or influence future movements.

In a YA dystopia, if you were to end it on a bittersweet note, I could easily see a mature YA protagonist as an important official going up through this dystopia, which is showing signs of weakening or mellowing out, intent on starting to subtly create reformations, hoping that despite their failure that future generations will be inspired to take up the creed.

Personally I like that as a theme or passing message. The world can beat you down and you can fail, but that doesn't mean it's the end of the road. You just pick yourself back up, learn, grow more mature, and do it again in a different way.

I think there's a very good example of that, though not necessarily as a YA protagonist, in Hermione Granger's treatment of house elves and of S.P.E.W.
 
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When I think of real world "teen rebellions", my mind wanders to stuff like the punk culture, underground movements like Riot grrrl, or perhaps even the anti-war movements that developed in the sixties.

Even if teen rebellion fizzles out or fails to meet its goal that's not necessarily the end of the road. Ex-rebels often move on and become influential in their own right, and on a non-personal scale such movements often set significant historical milestones or influence future movements.

In a YA dystopia, if you were to end it on a bittersweet note, I could easily see a mature YA protagonist as an important official going up through this dystopia, which is showing signs of weakening or mellowing out, intent on starting to subtly create reformations, hoping that despite their failure that future generations will be inspired to take up the creed.

Personally I like that as a theme or passing message. The world can beat you down and you can fail, but that doesn't mean it's the end of the road. You just pick yourself back up, learn, grow more mature, and do it again in a different way.

I think there's a very good example of that, though not necessarily as a YA protagonist, in Hermione Granger's treatment of house elves and of S.P.E.W.
That could make for a good epilogue. You show the protagonists as now being part of the system, making the reader think that they've given in and been beaten down. Only to then reveal that they still fundamentally believe in what they once revolted for, and with all of them subtly working within the system they're slowly making a difference.
 
That could make for a good epilogue. You show the protagonists as now being part of the system, making the reader think that they've given in and been beaten down. Only to then reveal that they still fundamentally believe in what they once revolted for, and with all of them subtly working within the system they're slowly making a difference.
And maybe, the system has grown up too, and behaves more like a real country instead of a straw sock puppet.
 
Okay, so this was cobbled up very quickly and has a few little minutiae details that a few people at my writing group missed, that hint at the nature of the world. It's quite short and meant to be more of a snippet than a full story.

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Roger Davison had been making googly eyes at me the day I spoke the truth in public. I've never been good looking, not in the modern way. It was partly by choice: what was the point of trying to change myself when I'd always have such a plain looking face? But whether it was through a dare or through genuine affection, he'd been giving me signals since morning. Even at lunch, when I sat away from the rest of the students as they indulged in the colourful delights of the System and ignored the old volumes of the past that I craved, he made a point of walking past me, giving me a wink.

In the afternoon light of the sun his feathery blonde hair couldn't look more beautiful. I was staring at him the whole time, and that was when the teacher called me out and told me to stand and answer the question on the board.

We'd been talking about the thing I hated the most, something endemic to the corrupt and depraved System that we were all a part of – history. But it wasn't my history. It was Agorinthian.

I was always the student that kept my opinions to myself. That was something my mother had drilled into me. "One day you'll find others like you." She said before they took her away, "but for now you must be silent. Or else the Agoranthians will listen, and then they'll hunt you, just like they did to the rest of us. They didn't like what we did, because we always tried to tell the truth - to make the world listen about how they're in charge of the System." We used to pick strawberries out on my grandfather's farm, and she'd instruct me in all the ways of the old world, the old paths, but never neglected to teach me how to navigate the world of the System. I still remember the honeyed fragrance of her hair, a smell I've never smelt again but lingers in my memory. Just recalling it is a comfort.

Normally I heed my mother's words. But on that day, with Roger's azure eyes and feather blonde hair in my peripheral vision, I let a little bit of my true self leak through.

I boldly proclaimed the truth. "The Agorinthians are monsters." The classroom was silent. "They stole and twisted the System, perverting it from the inside and turned it against us."

The teacher, red-faced, told me to be quiet. I didn't.

"You can't just change history – our history – without noticing. Everything we've been learning here is wrong."

Everybody kept a wider berth after that day, and I knew that my Test date had been bumped up significantly. It was the only thing I truly feared, and for weeks I was restless until I couldn't take it any longer. Everyone knew about it, even if they denied its existence to my face.

But for once in this crooked world, I spoke the truth, smothering the lies the teacher of the System was taught, even as she tried to plant false ideas into my head, taking me aside day after day to explain them to me. Agorinthian ideas. In an Agorinthian world, truth and lie were upside down. That was the result of the System.

That was why I was left, and why I'm now here.

The best part about being away from the city was awaking to the sound of silence. Even the heat of the desert and the occasional bluster of a sandstorm wasn't enough to dampen the fact that I was following the path of truth, the path my mother wanted me to take before they took her away. I can only hope that I'm half as strong as her in doing what needs to be done.

Sammy was waiting at the doorway; I couldn't help but blush and turn away as we met eyes. He had beautiful olive skin and chocolate brown eyes. There were murmurs in the camp about his inclusion as he wasn't one of us, wasn't connected to the old world in the way we were, but he was as strong as a mule and just as committed as the most fervent rebel. From my perspective it was just as important he be here as the rest of us. The System and the Agorinthians were a threat that needed to be stopped.

At the very least, that was what I reasoned. I kept an image of Roger in my head as he looked at me with piercing eyes. Sammy isn't him. Can't even aspire to be like him. Or change himself to be what I like in Roger.

"Are you ready?" He asked.

I nodded, slipping on my weather-worn tunic and hood. Today was the day. The first day of the rest of my life, when I would follow in my mother's footsteps. The rebel leader, Father Thomas, had known my mother. "She was as fiery as they came," he told me on the first night I was here, "her passionate hatred of all the System stands for inspires all of us, even now."

And as all of us stood, row by row, faces tanned from the sun, restless but determined, Father Thomas and the elders came out of their tents. I was the only girl.

"Today is a proud day." Father Thomas said in his tranquil voice, looking over us. His eyes rested on me for a moment before moving on. "For years we've been downtrodden, helpless, as the System took over. Ever since the Agoranthians came to power the harmony and peace of the old path has diminished into nothingness. Those traditions governed us for centuries, and we are here to take it back. Whether it is peacefully or via violence depends on how willing to listen the Agorinthians are. But it's likely we'll have to make them."

One of the elders came out now, and passed us our cloaks and hoods, dyed in the colours of the old world – banned colours. It was clumsy and ill-fitting, given my skinny frame, but I didn't complain. This was an important moment.

Father Thomas' voice grew more impassioned. "They have taken our history, our past, our truth, but we will make them see reason. We, who are brothers and sisters in blood, refuse to stand against this. This is a declaration of a new rebellion against the System, born from the ashes of the old! What say you?"

I added my voice to the shouts, our voices ringing into the sky.

The rebel leader gestured and brought out three Circlets - symbols of the System, ghastly things, all painted and multi-coloured, each colour meant to represent the things that had infiltrated our pure society.

Sammy was given the torch. He burnt them, one by one. "There will be a reckoning."

My heart swelled at those words. I have never felt more connected to the truth, to my mother, than I have now. As the Circlets burnt, the words rung in my heart.

Yes. There would be a reckoning.
 
Okay, so this was cobbled up very quickly and has a few little minutiae details that a few people at my writing group missed, that hint at the nature of the world. It's quite short and meant to be more of a snippet than a full story.
Though, what did your group miss? Does the invented word for the government make it hard to read?
 
Though, what did your group miss? Does the invented word for the government make it hard to read?

They only had a quick read to be fair, but a few of them very quickly jumped to the assumption that it was a traditional YA dystopia story because of the initial tropes used.

One of them got it immediately, especially in terms of the protag's internalised racism through attempting to hold onto their attraction to Roger (blonde haired) as opposed to Sammy (olive-skinned).

I actually wrote it initially so that Sammy had some Agorinthian blood, making the racist element far more overt, but removed that since it was too obvious.
 
They only had a quick read to be fair, but a few of them very quickly jumped to the assumption that it was a traditional YA dystopia story because of the initial tropes used.

One of them got it immediately, especially in terms of the protag's internalised racism through attempting to hold onto their attraction to Roger (blonde haired) as opposed to Sammy (olive-skinned).

I actually wrote it initially so that Sammy had some Agorinthian blood, making the racist element far more overt, but removed that since it was too obvious.
Seems some hammers and anvils need to be dropped. To be honest, on my first read through, I thought Agorintians are a party instead of an ethnicity...
 
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So you're going through with the 'Everything you know is wrong' dystopia?

If I can make a suggestion, include 'Peripetia' in the name. 'The Peripetia Chronicles' maybe?

... This probably makes more sense when you know what Peripetia is.

The reversal of the situation in the plot of a tragedy is the peripeteia. According to Aristotle, the change of fortune for the hero should be an event that occurs contrary to the audience's expectations and that is therefore surprising, but that nonetheless appears as a necessary outcome of the preceding actions.

I think the best known example of this is the moment where Oedipus realizes that his attempt to escape the prophesy about his future led to it's fulfullment...

Or, to put it in more modern terms-
 
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When I think of real world "teen rebellions", my mind wanders to stuff like the punk culture, underground movements like Riot grrrl, or perhaps even the anti-war movements that developed in the sixties.
Punk culture... young adults... dystopian... what is this making me think of for some reason?


Splatoon's story mode and other details establish that it takes place in a post-apocalyptic and arguably dystopian future. It seems like the population consists almost entirely of young adults, if not outright tweens. It is also probably one of the most obsessively cheerful, upbeat, and happy pieces of media I've encountered in a while.

You want to change the formula? Make a YA Dystopia story that isn't a miserable ball of doom and gloom, that isn't just teen angst (legitimate and otherwise) writ large as a setting that reflects all their concerns in exaggerated form. Instead make it reflect the other side, the more counterculture and artistic elements. Make it less Hunger Games and more Jet Set Radio. I mean heck just read the description:
The game is centered around roller-blading street gangs consisting of teens and young adults called rudies, who battle for turf by spraying graffiti around the streets of Tokyo-to. Meanwhile, the rudies' culture is under attack by an evil corporate conglomerate called the Rokkaku Group which seeks to homogenize the city and whose leader seeks to take over the world through demonic means.
That sounds like it has an awful lot of overlap with YA dystopia already...
 
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The radio one's premise sounds pretty like The World Ends with You... Yeah, pretty stereotypical. I didn't know Splat is post apocalyptic though.
 
So basically, we're creating a rollercoaster of shit but will make mad dosh anyway. Sign me up.
It actually isn't. Akito the Exiled has a bunch of kids trying to fight a massive war with little support from adults on their side, fancy Scopedog-ish robots, but all it can do is ride the tail winds of Code Geass proper.
 
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