Stark Quest v2.0 (AGOT crossover)
- Thread starter Mazrick
- Start date
- Location
- Tel'aran'rhiod
[X] Atri
[X] Dealing With Demons
[X] Dealing With Demons
Mazrick
Shai'tan
- Location
- The Pit of Doom
Yeah, I like the name Stormsingers better, so I folded Water Mages into that. And while there may be some still hanging around. They are not confirmed, and Harlon doesn't know about them.
I'm going with something similar to the North's skinchangers here, but so little is known that I'm not putting them on the list.
There are several types of Necromancy. The Kiss of Fire, Qyburn's experiments, and the Others version are the most notable.
Yeah, Harlon is ignorant about these types. You'll need more info to add them to the list proper.
Ah, yes. Everything can be fixed with more firepower!I can support this build.
Pro-tip: Don't go near Alûthair unless you have some way to protect your Name...So, after this, who wants to go to King's Landing to go up against our third Forsaken?
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Really hoping one of the shinies on Dany was anti-Naming.
Hopefully, but its worth remembering that the anti-mind artifact is not absolute so its unlikely the others are either.
Right, so that's why we can't visit Ned too often while he's in Kings Landing?
True, but extra defense is still worthwhile against someone who'd have Naming 9.5.
It's another reason, anyways.
Yep, but until we know Harlons Name, that probably won't be enough.
Ohwell, I am sure everything will be fine if we let Ned to go to Kings Landing on his own. I mean what could possibly go wrong?
For all we know, Dany might have 9 in Naming. Potentially.
Yeah. Its not like the fact that our female channelers are all highly trained will never reach Ithroen.
We did not even know about the mark. The book was very limited.
No, he explicitly states that he cannot teach a WOMAN.
Rand knew how it was done in principle, and he apparently knew the weaves for saidin, but he could not actually use them himself since as you say, someone with a healing talent was required. I presume he could have taught one of the male healers (though only 1 had the talent at Nynaeves level anyway), but this was at the worst of his insanity and paranoia and after he had channeled the True Power. Nynaeve figured it out the female way of weaving quickly enough on her own anyway due to being a healing prodigy.
RJ even talks about it (quick search):
Its also repeatedly confirmed:
Thats confirmed time and again.
I don't think they knew such a thing existed so they never tried. The moment someone explains it to them (in that bowl of wind session), they get it instantly. I think its not at all advanced but rather one of the most basic things for women. And I figure Ithroen could explain it quite well.
I am pretty sure its said it became useless with the breaking of the Hightower-Ithroen contract, but too lazy to go look right now.
Maybe, but demons generally don't seem anywhere near as dangerous as forsaken. Heck, they probably were created by the forsaken considering Ithroen called the constructs. Dunno if thats one of the 13 present, or someone who was balefired before he could be sealed into the Prison and altered.
Possibly nothing. Alûthair may decide not to interfere at all and let the kingdom tear itself apart on its own, and only take advantage of the chaos later so as not to make his own influence known. Not every Forsaken will take a hands on approach.
This would the best way, but I dunno if the world is advanced enough for Harlon to know this.
Throwing it to the sun would also require circle for the gateway. This actually was asked of the author once:
Also, not sure Harlon could realistically make that threat anyway. He might have experimented with cuendillar and figured out its tough, but I don't think he knows HOW tough. He does not have IC reason to believe it would survive in the sun.
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Yeah. You are right. And without Alûthair interfering, Ned will be absolutely safe. He just needs to be careful not to lose his head.
No. He must lose his head so we can become the
Fluffiness
Sleepy
- Location
- New York
We just have to make sure he doesn't reveal any blackmail he has needlessly.
We should try to convince him not to do anything truly major if theres time to communicate with us first. If gateways are running by then, we can come up with somekind of covert system of opening small gateways away from KL that won't be detected by Alûthair.
I also wonder if we could teach Ned some of the mind augment sequences. Maybe that would allow him to figure out better what would be really stupid. He does have a high intelligence of 8 (Will and Wis of 8 too).
Actually, Catelyn also has INT of 8(.25). Would be worth teaching her offensive sequences too, just in case. We should also try to convince her to make peace with Jon. Telling her that Jon is not actually Neds son from another woman will hopefully help.
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##### 3.19
[X] Ask questions
-[X] First, you'll ask some questions to test how honest you can make her. You will pretend to be ignorant about the Forsaken for now.
--[X] If you want to talk at all, we need you to swear an oath to answer our questions truthfully. No lies, even by omission.
---[X] Cease communicating for a time if she refuses, and then come back a bit later to see if she'll cooperate.
----[X] If she accepts and swears the oath, ask Jon if he feels that the oath truly binds her to tell the truth or if it is just a ploy.
--[X] Are there any limitations or costs to asking her questions?
--[X] What is she?
--[X] What are her powers? Can she use them in her current state?
---[X] If she can use her powers right now, make her take an oath not to use them without Jon's permission until she's out of the disc. Otherwise cut communications and come back later.
----[X] If she accepts and swears the oath, ask Jon if he feels that the oath truly binds her to tell the truth or if it is just a ploy.
--[X] Why was she in Illyrio's employ? What did he offer her?
--[X] What does she know about how she ended up in our captivity?
---[X] Does she know who we are? If she doesn't, don't let her know we're Starks.
--[X] Are there ways to communicate with her at range?
--[X] What are Daenery's magical abilities, and how good is she at each of them?
---[X] What is Daenarys's personality like? Does she truly want to conquer Westeros or is that a notion put into her head? If so, can she be dissuaded from that path? Which Houses in Westeros does she hate, what would she do if she met members of those Houses and what future plans does she have? Does she have any weaknesses, either in character or in skills, that can be exploited? If yes, then how?
---[X] Does Daenarys know about Tavar's true nature. Is she aware of any of Illyrio's, Viserys's or Tavar's plans? Does she approve of any of them, if she knows?
--[X] What does she know about the disc we trapped her in?
--[X] What does she know about the state of her body, since she's apparently been pulled from it? Is there a risk to us if we leave you out of it? If she has revealed that she is a Forsaken, then ask what the state of mind her host is in - is she insane, or dangerous, or capable of functioning at all without Tavar anymore?
--[X] What does she know about Pentos? Who are the people that can be used, bribed, coerced or otherwise cajoled into doing our bidding?
--[X] What does she know about Illyrio's contacts, both in Essos and in Westeros? Does Illyrio have other resources squirreled away somewhere? If yes, where and how do we access them?
---[X] Ask if Illyrio knew or knew of mages or magically inclined people in Westeros. Who are they? What are their abilities?
---[X] Did Illyrio or does she know or know of mages or magically inclined people in Essos, most importantly in Pentos? Who are they? What are their abilities?
--[X] What does she know about the underground complex beneath Pentos, reachable from Illyrio's mansion? Are there any secrets hidden? Any hidden passageways or shinies?
--[X] If she mentions something about the One Power, ask her what it is, when it will return and how it will change the playing field.
--[X] Ask her whether the other cities in Essos have powerful mages/magic protections (we're especially interested in Myr and Braavos, as those are the closest ports that could get us back to Westeros - though don't tell her that). If yes, let her elaborate. Ask her what defenses can be put up to guard yourself from them.
--[X] Does she know anything about Illyrio's, Daenarys's, Viserys' plans, immediate and future? If yes, let her tell us. Does she herself have any immediate or future plans? If yes, tell us.
-[X] If, at any time, she tries to betray us or otherwise harm us, cease communications. Also, after the questions are asked, ask Jon what he thinks of this. Does he think we could make use of her? Should we put her in some secret secure place and never touch her again? Or should we banish her?
No. of votes: 6
Atri
Fluffiness
Romv
Ishaq
cast2007
Edkose
[X] Plan Atri
[X] Search for Shinies
No. of votes: 8
Enjou
tinkerbell
Datakim
Unelemental
overmind
Quest
Bass11
Yun
[X] Plan Atri
[X] Dealing With Demons
No. of votes: 4
landcollector
Van Ropen
Tel Janin Aman
LucTW
##### 3.19
[X] Ask questions
-[X] First, you'll ask some questions to test how honest you can make her. You will pretend to be ignorant about the Forsaken for now.
--[X] If you want to talk at all, we need you to swear an oath to answer our questions truthfully. No lies, even by omission.
---[X] Cease communicating for a time if she refuses, and then come back a bit later to see if she'll cooperate.
----[X] If she accepts and swears the oath, ask Jon if he feels that the oath truly binds her to tell the truth or if it is just a ploy.
--[X] Are there any limitations or costs to asking her questions?
--[X] What is she?
--[X] What are her powers? Can she use them in her current state?
---[X] If she can use her powers right now, make her take an oath not to use them without Jon's permission until she's out of the disc. Otherwise cut communications and come back later.
----[X] If she accepts and swears the oath, ask Jon if he feels that the oath truly binds her to tell the truth or if it is just a ploy.
--[X] Why was she in Illyrio's employ? What did he offer her?
--[X] What does she know about how she ended up in our captivity?
---[X] Does she know who we are? If she doesn't, don't let her know we're Starks.
--[X] Are there ways to communicate with her at range?
--[X] What are Daenery's magical abilities, and how good is she at each of them?
---[X] What is Daenarys's personality like? Does she truly want to conquer Westeros or is that a notion put into her head? If so, can she be dissuaded from that path? Which Houses in Westeros does she hate, what would she do if she met members of those Houses and what future plans does she have? Does she have any weaknesses, either in character or in skills, that can be exploited? If yes, then how?
---[X] Does Daenarys know about Tavar's true nature. Is she aware of any of Illyrio's, Viserys's or Tavar's plans? Does she approve of any of them, if she knows?
--[X] What does she know about the disc we trapped her in?
--[X] What does she know about the state of her body, since she's apparently been pulled from it? Is there a risk to us if we leave you out of it? If she has revealed that she is a Forsaken, then ask what the state of mind her host is in - is she insane, or dangerous, or capable of functioning at all without Tavar anymore?
--[X] What does she know about Pentos? Who are the people that can be used, bribed, coerced or otherwise cajoled into doing our bidding?
--[X] What does she know about Illyrio's contacts, both in Essos and in Westeros? Does Illyrio have other resources squirreled away somewhere? If yes, where and how do we access them?
---[X] Ask if Illyrio knew or knew of mages or magically inclined people in Westeros. Who are they? What are their abilities?
---[X] Did Illyrio or does she know or know of mages or magically inclined people in Essos, most importantly in Pentos? Who are they? What are their abilities?
--[X] What does she know about the underground complex beneath Pentos, reachable from Illyrio's mansion? Are there any secrets hidden? Any hidden passageways or shinies?
--[X] If she mentions something about the One Power, ask her what it is, when it will return and how it will change the playing field.
--[X] Ask her whether the other cities in Essos have powerful mages/magic protections (we're especially interested in Myr and Braavos, as those are the closest ports that could get us back to Westeros - though don't tell her that). If yes, let her elaborate. Ask her what defenses can be put up to guard yourself from them.
--[X] Does she know anything about Illyrio's, Daenarys's, Viserys' plans, immediate and future? If yes, let her tell us. Does she herself have any immediate or future plans? If yes, tell us.
-[X] If, at any time, she tries to betray us or otherwise harm us, cease communications. Also, after the questions are asked, ask Jon what he thinks of this. Does he think we could make use of her? Should we put her in some secret secure place and never touch her again? Or should we banish her?
No. of votes: 6
Atri
Fluffiness
Romv
Ishaq
cast2007
Edkose
[X] Plan Atri
[X] Search for Shinies
No. of votes: 8
Enjou
tinkerbell
Datakim
Unelemental
overmind
Quest
Bass11
Yun
[X] Plan Atri
[X] Dealing With Demons
No. of votes: 4
landcollector
Van Ropen
Tel Janin Aman
LucTW
- Location
- Tel'aran'rhiod
I would give reasons but trying to on my phone while at work makes it rather difficult, bossman has been cracking down lately
Mazrick
Shai'tan
- Location
- The Pit of Doom
+5 XP!
Winning vote:
[X] Ask questions
-[X] First, you'll ask some questions to test how honest you can make her. You will pretend to be ignorant about the Forsaken for now.
--[X] If you want to talk at all, we need you to swear an oath to answer our questions truthfully. No lies, even by omission.
---[X] Cease communicating for a time if she refuses, and then come back a bit later to see if she'll cooperate.
----[X] If she accepts and swears the oath, ask Jon if he feels that the oath truly binds her to tell the truth or if it is just a ploy.
--[X] Are there any limitations or costs to asking her questions?
--[X] What is she?
--[X] What are her powers? Can she use them in her current state?
---[X] If she can use her powers right now, make her take an oath not to use them without Jon's permission until she's out of the disc. Otherwise cut communications and come back later.
----[X] If she accepts and swears the oath, ask Jon if he feels that the oath truly binds her to tell the truth or if it is just a ploy.
--[X] Why was she in Illyrio's employ? What did he offer her?
--[X] What does she know about how she ended up in our captivity?
---[X] Does she know who we are? If she doesn't, don't let her know we're Starks.
--[X] Are there ways to communicate with her at range?
--[X] What are Daenery's magical abilities, and how good is she at each of them?
---[X] What is Daenarys's personality like? Does she truly want to conquer Westeros or is that a notion put into her head? If so, can she be dissuaded from that path? Which Houses in Westeros does she hate, what would she do if she met members of those Houses and what future plans does she have? Does she have any weaknesses, either in character or in skills, that can be exploited? If yes, then how?
---[X] Does Daenarys know about Tavar's true nature. Is she aware of any of Illyrio's, Viserys's or Tavar's plans? Does she approve of any of them, if she knows?
--[X] What does she know about the disc we trapped her in?
--[X] What does she know about the state of her body, since she's apparently been pulled from it? Is there a risk to us if we leave you out of it? If she has revealed that she is a Forsaken, then ask what the state of mind her host is in - is she insane, or dangerous, or capable of functioning at all without Tavar anymore?
--[X] What does she know about Pentos? Who are the people that can be used, bribed, coerced or otherwise cajoled into doing our bidding?
--[X] What does she know about Illyrio's contacts, both in Essos and in Westeros? Does Illyrio have other resources squirreled away somewhere? If yes, where and how do we access them?
---[X] Ask if Illyrio knew or knew of mages or magically inclined people in Westeros. Who are they? What are their abilities?
---[X] Did Illyrio or does she know or know of mages or magically inclined people in Essos, most importantly in Pentos? Who are they? What are their abilities?
--[X] What does she know about the underground complex beneath Pentos, reachable from Illyrio's mansion? Are there any secrets hidden? Any hidden passageways or shinies?
--[X] If she mentions something about the One Power, ask her what it is, when it will return and how it will change the playing field.
--[X] Ask her whether the other cities in Essos have powerful mages/magic protections (we're especially interested in Myr and Braavos, as those are the closest ports that could get us back to Westeros - though don't tell her that). If yes, let her elaborate. Ask her what defenses can be put up to guard yourself from them.
--[X] Does she know anything about Illyrio's, Daenarys's, Viserys' plans, immediate and future? If yes, let her tell us. Does she herself have any immediate or future plans? If yes, tell us.
-[X] If, at any time, she tries to betray us or otherwise harm us, cease communications. Also, after the questions are asked, ask Jon what he thinks of this. Does he think we could make use of her? Should we put her in some secret secure place and never touch her again? Or should we banish her?
New thread will be up shortly. And a bonus vote will accompany it! Hopefully, I'll have the update ready tonight or tomorrow morning.
Winning vote:
[X] Ask questions
-[X] First, you'll ask some questions to test how honest you can make her. You will pretend to be ignorant about the Forsaken for now.
--[X] If you want to talk at all, we need you to swear an oath to answer our questions truthfully. No lies, even by omission.
---[X] Cease communicating for a time if she refuses, and then come back a bit later to see if she'll cooperate.
----[X] If she accepts and swears the oath, ask Jon if he feels that the oath truly binds her to tell the truth or if it is just a ploy.
--[X] Are there any limitations or costs to asking her questions?
--[X] What is she?
--[X] What are her powers? Can she use them in her current state?
---[X] If she can use her powers right now, make her take an oath not to use them without Jon's permission until she's out of the disc. Otherwise cut communications and come back later.
----[X] If she accepts and swears the oath, ask Jon if he feels that the oath truly binds her to tell the truth or if it is just a ploy.
--[X] Why was she in Illyrio's employ? What did he offer her?
--[X] What does she know about how she ended up in our captivity?
---[X] Does she know who we are? If she doesn't, don't let her know we're Starks.
--[X] Are there ways to communicate with her at range?
--[X] What are Daenery's magical abilities, and how good is she at each of them?
---[X] What is Daenarys's personality like? Does she truly want to conquer Westeros or is that a notion put into her head? If so, can she be dissuaded from that path? Which Houses in Westeros does she hate, what would she do if she met members of those Houses and what future plans does she have? Does she have any weaknesses, either in character or in skills, that can be exploited? If yes, then how?
---[X] Does Daenarys know about Tavar's true nature. Is she aware of any of Illyrio's, Viserys's or Tavar's plans? Does she approve of any of them, if she knows?
--[X] What does she know about the disc we trapped her in?
--[X] What does she know about the state of her body, since she's apparently been pulled from it? Is there a risk to us if we leave you out of it? If she has revealed that she is a Forsaken, then ask what the state of mind her host is in - is she insane, or dangerous, or capable of functioning at all without Tavar anymore?
--[X] What does she know about Pentos? Who are the people that can be used, bribed, coerced or otherwise cajoled into doing our bidding?
--[X] What does she know about Illyrio's contacts, both in Essos and in Westeros? Does Illyrio have other resources squirreled away somewhere? If yes, where and how do we access them?
---[X] Ask if Illyrio knew or knew of mages or magically inclined people in Westeros. Who are they? What are their abilities?
---[X] Did Illyrio or does she know or know of mages or magically inclined people in Essos, most importantly in Pentos? Who are they? What are their abilities?
--[X] What does she know about the underground complex beneath Pentos, reachable from Illyrio's mansion? Are there any secrets hidden? Any hidden passageways or shinies?
--[X] If she mentions something about the One Power, ask her what it is, when it will return and how it will change the playing field.
--[X] Ask her whether the other cities in Essos have powerful mages/magic protections (we're especially interested in Myr and Braavos, as those are the closest ports that could get us back to Westeros - though don't tell her that). If yes, let her elaborate. Ask her what defenses can be put up to guard yourself from them.
--[X] Does she know anything about Illyrio's, Daenarys's, Viserys' plans, immediate and future? If yes, let her tell us. Does she herself have any immediate or future plans? If yes, tell us.
-[X] If, at any time, she tries to betray us or otherwise harm us, cease communications. Also, after the questions are asked, ask Jon what he thinks of this. Does he think we could make use of her? Should we put her in some secret secure place and never touch her again? Or should we banish her?
New thread will be up shortly. And a bonus vote will accompany it! Hopefully, I'll have the update ready tonight or tomorrow morning.