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Star Wars: The Clone Wars - A Naval Quest - Cancelled

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DaLintyGuy said:
Technically possible. Just infeasible. After all, a surrender is reliant on the target's morale and ability to fight, so if you have a stealth ship cripple the engines in the opening strike when the target is at "transit" footing even a modern warship is potentially going to give up if they can not strike back (due to positioning and being unable to track their opponent).
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The problem is that both of those ships are carriers, and our own carrier capacity is limited.
 
10ebbor10 said:
The problem is that both of those ships are carriers, and our own carrier capacity is limited.
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While an Acclamator is typically a ground transport, I suppose if they are alongside a convoy they'd be carrying an escort carrier load out. Still, as a stealth ship, that first attack is going to be telling, with enemy gunners not necessarily at their posts and shields conserving power. So we would have a not terrible chance of setting up a run explicitly targeting the hangar of the target.

But yes, actually taking a military ship is going to be Difficult for a variety of reasons. Meaning we need to cultivate a reputation among the Republic as being honorable enough to be worth surrendering to, even if that means we allow them to scuttle their vessel.
 
Always Late said:
4. And this is just straight-up you not doing your homework. Slavery isn't stamped out in the outer rim because the Republic never wanted the expense of keeping it gone, and its far less public and more run by gangs the closer you get to the core because, as linked, people in the Core not part of the human supremacy movement kinda think slavery is messed up. Heck, the fact the Republic's control over the galaxy loosening is what prompts the Zygerrians trying to turn their covert operations public and massively expand it.
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So the Republic didn't sanction the Kaleesh for their "aggression" against the warmongering slavers known as the Huk, when really, what happened was that the Kaleesh were simply rebelling against a race that conquered them and had enslaved millions of their people? The Republic didn't send a Jedi Task Force to end the conflict and force a settlement in favor of the Huk, taking the Huk at their word without anything like an independent investigation?

Seems to me the Republic was willing to tolerate the Huk's shenanigans - it just didn't want an upset of the status quo.

Edit: Of course, the issue we're facing is that the CIS as a whole, and our stealth ship and its capabilities in particular, represent a very sizable threat to the status quo, so they'll already have every reason to go after us.
 
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Axslashel said:
A submarine crew sinking life boats was extremely rare. Why would we this? The cargo is already destroyed.

And as gor capturing a major energy hub. That is no different than capturing any other planet in lawfullness. Arguably less problematic because the planet is largely uninhabited.
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Grievous during the whole Malevolence arc seemed to be doing his absolute best to speedrun as many war crimes as possible. While I definitely enjoyed the episodes when I was younger, I definitely feel like they were making the CIS pointlessly evil and dumb just for the sake of the Hunting the Bismark reference now that I'm older.

Do you want a good use for the Malevolence? Immediately after testing out that it works and that its Ion Weapon can cripple entire fleets, throw the thing at Kuat with the largest fleet you can gather closely behind it. You got a fleet-killer battleship designed to smack around enemy battleships like they are jokes? Throw it at space!Jutland while the Republic Naval Intelligence is still trying to figure out what is going on.

Edit: Okay, technically it doesn't have to be Kuat. Just one of the worlds absolutely critical to the Republic war effort. By my measure, those are: Kuat (Naval Ship Yards), Rothana (Armor production), Kamino (Clone production), and maybe Thyferra (Bacta production).

Edit 2: And I just realized that Thyferra is literally a Separatist planet. That according to the OP, is currently being blockaded. Well, there's 100 credits on where one of the major naval battles will be.
 
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Oracle of Space said:
Grievous during the whole Malevolence arc seemed to be doing his absolute best to speedrun as many war crimes as possible. While I definitely enjoyed the episodes when I was younger, I definitely feel like they were making the CIS pointlessly evil and dumb just for the sake of the Hunting the Bismark reference.
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Palpatine wanted General Grievous to do these things because when he established the Empire he wanted any ideas of rebellion to be crushed in the populations mind. He basically used Grievous as a boogyman to show the population of the galaxy what rebellion got them. Palpatine used Grievous and the separatists as one giant scare campaign.
 
EzordCyborg45 said:
If our ship is a modified Recusant then the ship should have the same sort of droid brain that automates most of the ships functions. Could this be used as a central control computer for the droids or is that something entirely different?
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It can be used in fact for controlling droids, but with the Recusant...it is not a plus. The droid brain is already noted for responding slowly, and adding additional units on top is just gonna make it worse.
 
10ebbor10 said:
Extra drone core? They're not that big, IIRC.
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It would probably be expensive, since it woould require a refit and droid brains are complex things, which is its own problem, and power hungry, which is also one considering that so is our stealth cloak. I'm not sure if this is something we can feasibly do. We'll have to find another solution I think.
 
Always Late said:
The Recusant's core is also very, very stupid. Like, 'ignore commands from the bridge to ram shit' stupid. We're a long way from even the idiot Tactical Droids, much less Tri-Fighters and STs.
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So, we see that Star Wars's "1 member of a species does something, therefore the entire species does it" is not limited to organics.

One Recuscant is shown ramming into an enemy in one of the movies, therefore all of them do it.
 
10ebbor10 said:
So, we see that Star Wars's "1 member of a species does something, therefore the entire species does it" is not limited to organics.

One Recuscant is shown ramming into an enemy in one of the movies, therefore all of them do it.
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Actually, that's fluff from Star Wars Roleplaying Game Saga Edition's "Starships of the Galaxy" expansion and the Revenge Of The Sith Incredible Cross-Sections.

There's a very helpful wiki that has citations for its information. We don't have to rely on memory or stereotypes anymore, isn't that great?
 
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Always Late said:
Actually, that's fluff from Star Wars Roleplaying Game Saga Edition's "Starships of the Galaxy" expansion and the Revenge Of The Sith Incredible Cross-Sections.

There's a very helpful wiki that has citations for its information. We don't have to rely on memory or stereotypes anymore, isn't that great?
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Yeah, and my point is that it likely got written into the lore to justify that scene. This is also what happened with every other example of the Star Wars based stereotyping. A single trait from a single character gets extrapolated into a specieswide trait by the expanded universe.

On a side note, have people mentioned that you are incredibly condescending, and that it makes you come across as a major asshole?

Edit : Completely tangentially of that, it appears the assertion of the Recusant's slow droid brain isn't even true. It is not present in either source the wiki cites. Neither ROTS cross-sections or the Starships of the Galaxy expansion mention slow reaction speed. As far as I can see, the phrase was added to the wiki uncited in December 2006, and everyone else has copied it ever since without ever bothering to verify it.
 
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10ebbor10 said:
Edit : Completely tangentially of that, it appears the assertion of the Recusant's slow droid brain isn't even true. It is not present in either source the wiki cites. Neither ROTS cross-sections or the Starships of the Galaxy expansion mention slow reaction speed. As far as I can see, the phrase was added to the wiki uncited in December 2006, and everyone else has copied it ever since without ever bothering to verify it.
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Mea culpa on the Incredible Cross sections. But I dug out my copy of the Star Wars RPG, and it's listed under "Commerce Guild Destroyer". That's the source which lists its use against shipping, the "poor judgement of its automated systems often resulted in the destroyers biting off more than it could chew".
And the "If the light destroyer had one weakness, it was the droid brain's single-mindedness. The ship would stubbornly attack a single target, ignoring all others until the object of its ire had been destroyed."

The rest will have to wait until after work.
 
Katana1515 said:
Do we have a picture of our ship? Struggling to picture what she looks like?
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Should look something like this, only with stealth coating.

Always Late said:
Mea culpa on the Incredible Cross sections. But I dug out my copy of the Star Wars RPG, and it's listed under "Commerce Guild Destroyer". That's the source which lists its use against shipping, the "poor judgement of its automated systems often resulted in the destroyers biting off more than it could chew".
And the "If the light destroyer had one weakness, it was the droid brain's single-mindedness. The ship would stubbornly attack a single target, ignoring all others until the object of its ire had been destroyed."
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That's a different statement from "reaction speeds so slow it runs into things" though.

I'm not going to contest the assertion that droids can be dumb. That has been amply and consistently demonstrated by all kinds of Star Wars media.
 
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From my understanding, droids are kept dumb intentionally to, along with periodic memory wipes, avoid uprisings.

Edit: found this video which explains it.
 
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Havalt300 said:
When will commando droid actually be available?
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Should be fairly soon. The first time they show up is in the episode after the Malevolence is destroyed.
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Of course, initially the commando droids were just that, Commando's. They were rare, elite units, so getting them might be harder.
 
Havalt300 said:
I don't want to seem impatient (ok a bit) but how far are you with the chapter?:oops:
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At around three quarters done, working on making everything a bit fancy and moving the plot forwards! IRL is unfortunately picking up speed and I am getting distracted as such, with family issues compounding the problem of not-writerritus, but rest assured, chapter will be out hopefully this week.
 
Ojou-Sama said:
At this point? Silently hating IRL and whoever decided that more working hours were fun. Consequently, the chapter was not released. I hate breaking promises, but...it is what is is. My apologies.
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Is ok. I just wanted to know how you are because we hadn't heard anything in 'a long time'. But if it's 'just' IRL then I'm reassured.
 
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