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Spells in Silence (Harry Potter)

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I love this. To many stories don't bother to flesh out the magical world, it's great to see that happening. I also love that fact that you are actually showing her exploring and working to figure out all her different spells and there being organic reasons for her making them. So many stories have Harry figure out about magic and use it before Hogwarts and don't bother to do anything on screen of him working it out.

Keep it up, I can't wait to see how this progresses.
 
Sivantic said:
Alternatively, not well at all since Hazel seems to learn Magic as if it was an art, while Hermione was focused on following her books to the letter preferring to see Magic as a science.

They would butt heads on what is the right way way too often.
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Hermione does reject her books and authority a lot though. Especially in the books(ironic, yes). SPEW, for example. Going with Harry and Ron away from Hogwarts to hunt the Horcruxes. Breaking into all sorts of places. Setting up Dumbledore's Army. Granted, a lot of that is going against what's the norm and going against authority, but I think that would translate well into learning stuff outside of books. She's also shown some humility in being able to learn from her peers, e.g. having Harry lead the teaching of Dumbledore's Army. There definitely is the potential for things going badly, because Hermione has her arrogance and ego as well, but I think it could go very well too.

Also, this is the best Harry Potter story I've read in a really, really long time. It's also one the first stories in general that I've been excited about in a really long time.
 
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Oh I remember, but that was Hermione from the later books. Initial Hermione was very "by-the-book"(snk). It took all the way to book 5 to really ignore her books, even then she got mad that Harry wad getting better potion results from not following the printed instructions.
 
Sivantic said:
Oh I remember, but that was Hermione from the later books. Initial Hermione was very "by-the-book"(snk). It took all the way to book 5 to really ignore her books, even then she got mad that Harry wad getting better potion results from not following the printed instructions.
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LOL! Really?
First book - lying to the teachers about how she ended up with the troll, attacking a teacher, hiding from Finch going looking for the chamber of Secrets.
Second book - tricking a teacher to get permission for the restricted section, stealing from a teacher, brewing polyjuice to sneak into the Slytherin dorms
etc...
 
TheUnicorn said:
LOL! Really?
First book - lying to the teachers about how she ended up with the troll, attacking a teacher, hiding from Finch going looking for the chamber of Secrets.
Second book - tricking a teacher to get permission for the restricted section, stealing from a teacher, brewing polyjuice to sneak into the Slytherin dorms
etc...
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Seventh Horcrux was right, Hermione listens to books and rules because she doesn't have morals, so she does evil things if she decides to do things without them.
 
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TheUnicorn said:
LOL! Really?
First book - lying to the teachers about how she ended up with the troll, attacking a teacher, hiding from Finch going looking for the chamber of Secrets.
Second book - tricking a teacher to get permission for the restricted section, stealing from a teacher, brewing polyjuice to sneak into the Slytherin dorms
etc...
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I...think you may be missing the point. I was talking about how canon Hermione held books sacrosanct and has a very methodical way of learning. That meeting Hazel may change that way of thinking. That is literally what I started this discussion about.

Why on earth did you take that to mean I said she never got in trouble?
 
TheUnicorn said:
LOL! Really?
First book - lying to the teachers about how she ended up with the troll, attacking a teacher, hiding from Finch going looking for the chamber of Secrets.
Second book - tricking a teacher to get permission for the restricted section, stealing from a teacher, brewing polyjuice to sneak into the Slytherin dorms
etc...
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She did get Sorted Griffindor for a reason...
 
This discussion took an odd turn. :confused:

Personally, I think it's important not to treat "trusts what's in books" and "follows authority" as the same thing. One really doesn't have anything to do with each other. Book 2 is an excellent example of that, as while Hermione was insistent early on that Lockhart had to know what he was doing because of all the things his books said he did (and yes, her crush was probably part of that), she was also more than willing to manipulate him and take advantage of his vanity to get access to Moste Potent Potions and illegally brew Polyjuice. Most likely, and admittedly this is just my read of her character, I think she trusts what is written in books because as we saw in book 1 with her reading the massive tome that talked about Flamel, books let her satisfy her curiosity at her own pace rather than be stuck learning at the speed of the slowest learner in class. So in a way, she probably views books as being more important than teachers. :lol:

In regards to her early rule-breaking, she strikes me as a very utilitarian, "the ends justify the means" individual. Any time she goes against the rules, it's for a higher purpose. Protecting the immortality-granting Stone from a dark wizard, saving the school, saving an innocent life, so on and so forth. Which yes, is probably why she was Sorted into Gryffindor rather than Ravenclaw.
 
Mastering a spell that unlocks doors, and really that's basically a thief's mainstay just as picking locks is in the real world- years ahead of time...

Reading is important to Hermione. I'm not sure rules are except in an abstract way. Getting in trouble is important because that's concrete.
 
This may be seventh horcrux speaking but I tend to see hermione as someone who clings to rules because they don't actually have a moral or ethical code of their own.

So when she does set them aside things tend to escalate quickly.
 
TheUnicorn said:
Because you were responding to her rejecting authority and getting into trouble, but still learning from books and holding up books as the primary source of knowledge by saying that didn't happen until fifth year.
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OP pretty much explained my point, and I was responding with clarification that it took up to book 5 for Hermione to be willing to consider that trusting books completely may not be for the best. I never denied that she got in lots of trouble.
w34v3r said:
This may be seventh horcrux speaking but I tend to see hermione as someone who clings to rules because they don't actually have a moral or ethical code of their own.

So when she does set them aside things tend to escalate quickly.
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Not sure what fanfic you are talking about, but that seems very fanon!Hermione. That is rather dark.
 
Sivantic said:
Not sure what fanfic you are talking about, but that seems very fanon!Hermione. That is rather dark
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It is a joke in that story, the main character that noted it is extremely delusional and take a lot of her canon action out of context, he also convinced everyone that Ron was a werewolf and it became a giant scandal years later when it was discovered he wasn't.
 
Sivantic said:
Unless she manages to kidnap Hermione, pretty sure she is going to solo it for the next two years.

Which is kinda crazy to think about a mute nine year old homeless orphan.

Like, Hazel is so lucky to have magic that can give her some sense of autonomy.
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If this were a normal child this wouldn't be a fun adventure through the magical history of Europe, this would be the story of a forgotten little girl who desperately wants to believe.

And now I've made myself really sad thinking about how that would go.
 
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TheMagister said:
If this were a normal child this wouldn't be a fun adventure through the magical history of Europe, this would be the story of a forgotten little girl who desperately wants to believe.

And now I've made myself really sad thinking about how that would go.
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It would probably end on as happy a note as The Little Match Girl. But on the plus side, if she didn't have magic, she would still live with the Dursleys, so… :cry:
KhazintheDark said:
This is a work of sublime genius.
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Thank you, but I wouldn't go that far. :oops: In a lot of ways, this story is very self-indulgent. It's the kind of story I've WANTED to read for years but could never find, so I have no choice but to write it myself.
 
Silently Watches said:
But on the plus side, if she didn't have magic, she would still live with the Dursleys, so… :cry:
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On the other hand, that would also be an interesting story. Petunia wanted to be a witch to but had no magic and was barred from the magical world. So what if she found out that her niece also had no magic, and from her point of view, also tossed out?

I feel that she may feel vindicated and might have treated Hazel better.
 
Silently Watches said:
It would probably end on as happy a note as The Little Match Girl. But on the plus side, if she didn't have magic, she would still live with the Dursleys, so… :cry:

Thank you, but I wouldn't go that far. :oops: In a lot of ways, this story is very self-indulgent. It's the kind of story I've WANTED to read for years but could never find, so I have no choice but to write it myself.
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The little match girl did not end on a good note as she died at the end in the snow.
 
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