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Spells in Silence (Harry Potter)

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FictionPack said:
She might even start writing magic runes in the air now!

Looking forward to the Wandless Magic Werewolf Pack of France!
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It might be the start of a new magical tradition. Or the rediscoverment of an old one.

The different wand waving wizards being the latest European traditions.
While other cultures might have different ways of doing magic.

The wand possibly being an easier way to use magic in certain ways.
It might be that the wand, can be more easily taught. Or can be used to more easily make more spells.

A long bow being able to get a bigger distance and higher penetration, while needing more training for the user.
While a crossbow not needing much training, but possibly being worse. (Reloading, distance, penetration)
 
Hm. Only problem I can see with that is that if she can easily read the word, then they are facing her. Unless the others can read backwards, or she can somehow spin it around, it's still going to be an issue. Not as much of one, but still.
 
Keldin145014 said:
Hm. Only problem I can see with that is that if she can easily read the word, then they are facing her. Unless the others can read backwards, or she can somehow spin it around, it's still going to be an issue. Not as much of one, but still.
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She could either learn to write backwards, or simply face away from the person.
 
Keldin145014 said:
Hm. Only problem I can see with that is that if she can easily read the word, then they are facing her. Unless the others can read backwards, or she can somehow spin it around, it's still going to be an issue. Not as much of one, but still.
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That's something that was SUPPOSED to be addressed in the next scene, but these took long enough to write I figured I'd go ahead and post what I had.

SPOILER, she will learn to write backwards.
 
It's not too difficult to learn to write backwards, I can do it at about half the speed I write forwards.

I only did it because I got bored easily, with proper motivation it'll be much quicker.
 
Flairina said:
Pretty sure I said it before, but the way Hazel thinks through the process of each spell she tries/makes, first coming up with a concept, then an associated item/tool to visualize and further conceptualise it, then executing it whatever way just seems natural to her is incredibly fun to read. It's not a purely logical process, she's going on feeling as much as anything else, but that's exactly how magic should be. It feels natural to the setting, like this is how magic should *actually* work, rather than the standardized methods they teach in schools and such. For a world of magic, canon never felt like it had a real sense of mysticism to it for me, and you're delivering where it did not. :)
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I agree with this a 100%. I adore the feeling of magic in this story. It reminds me of the feeling Diana Wayne Jones's books gave me.
 
Duke of Pretzels said:
I want to see the universe where Hazel went with "create rifts in the fabric of reality" as her communication spell.
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Do you? Do you really?

For background in case you haven't read anything else I've written, I grew up on horror novels. Bram Stoker, Stephen King, HP Lovecraft. This way lies everyone hearing everyone else's thoughts thanks to the ninth-dimensional tapeworms burrowing into their brains.
 
Having read Silently's dark/horror (genre) stuff, can confirm - trauma and/or horror (emotional) 99.99% guaranteed.
 
green said:
The wand possibly being an easier way to use magic in certain ways.
It might be that the wand, can be more easily taught. Or can be used to more easily make more spells.
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It makes sense, Hazel have to find something unique to her for every spell, wand being easier to teach to a lot of people without needing a wizard giving special attention to every one for every spell could easily explain how wand took over Europe and large part of the world.
Silently Watches said:
I mean, technically it is wandless magic because it doesn't use a wand. It's very similar to the way that the Romans considered everyone not them to be barbarians.
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The Romans also taking over most of Europe (or all, I can't remember) and the British taking over America will also explain why wand is so widespread, it also fits the timeline of when that wandmaker from London have had his family start their wand business, when the Roman empire existed (even if it doesn't necessarily mean wands weren't older, it does mean they existed during this time).
Silently Watches said:
This way lies everyone hearing everyone else's thoughts thanks to the ninth-dimensional tapeworms burrowing into their brains.
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But is it a nice tapeworm, maybe this is the power Voldemort knew not, I am relatively sure he never met a ninth-dimensional tapeworm. :p
 
ROTH963 said:
It makes sense, Hazel have to find something unique to her for every spell, wand being easier to teach to a lot of people without needing a wizard giving special attention to every one for every spell could easily explain how wand took over Europe and large part of the world.

The Romans also taking over most of Europe (or all, I can't remember) and the British taking over America will also explain why wand is so widespread, it also fits the timeline of when that wandmaker from London have had his family start their wand business, when the Roman empire existed (even if it doesn't necessarily mean wands weren't older, it does mean they existed during this time).

But is it a nice tapeworm, maybe this is the power Voldemort knew not, I am relatively sure he never met a ninth-dimensional tapeworm. :p
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And as much as I loathe Rowlings post book changes she did say theres at least one school in I thin Africa that is all wandless....or was it south America?
 
Dopplerdee said:
And as much as I loathe Rowlings post book changes she did say theres at least one school in I thin Africa that is all wandless....or was it south America?
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As much as I think it wouldn't make much sense that British will treat wandless magic as impossible if it was taught in the modern world, but the author here referenced it in the comments so it is probably canon.

It could be chulked to the magical side of Africa holding out better than the mundane side, so something stayed, I am also guessing it is more along the lines of getting vague instructions and having children figure it out for themselves, because wandless magic couldn't be taught like a wand, every spell Hazel makes require visualisation unique to her, maybe added some unique things ancient African wizards figured out, but I don't expect much attention goes to it when it is so much easier to use wand and everyone else does it, I am guessing Hazel is a genius on par with Voldemort and Dumbledore in her learning speed (as well as being self taught, kind of like Voldemort at her age, who figured out his own spells), would you really want to spent a month or a week of work learning a cleaning spell when you can learn it in an hour with a wand.
 
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Dopplerdee said:
And as much as I loathe Rowlings post book changes she did say theres at least one school in I thin Africa that is all wandless....or was it south America?
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It was Africa, with Ilvermorny in the US supposedly having some wandless classes. It's never really made clear just what kind of magic they learn, though, and other parts of Pottermore talk about how wandless magic is so much more difficult than wand magic and how wandless transfiguration is essentially impossible (even though Petunia in canon talks about Lily turning teacups into rats at home, which implies it would have HAD to be wandless). So yeah, lots of contradictions.
ROTH963 said:
As much as I think it wouldn't make much sense that British will treat wandless magic as impossible if it was taught in the modern world, but the author here referenced it in the comments so it is probably canon.
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There was some HP-based video game, don't remember the name, where there was some potions tournament and one of the contestants was from the African school and everybody was shocked and amazed that African wizards don't use wands. That's what I remember from reading the wiki, anyway. Hence European wizards not really knowing that wandless magic is a modern thing.
Qwertystop said:
I think it was Australia. And, yeah, as I recall the count was one school per continent except for three in Europe, because... her.
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Dopplerdee said:
Wow I was way off. Also 1 school per Continent but like 3 to 4 in Europe? Really?
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Yeah, 3 schools in Europe (4 if you include the Russian school), and to make things even more interesting, Hogwarts ONLY takes British/Irish students whereas Beauxbatons takes students from all of Western Europe and Durmstrang takes students from Eastern Europe. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense no matter how you look at it. I plan to treat it, if it ever becomes relevant, that most countries in Europe have their own school. Of course, I also tend to make the magical population larger to justify why they want to live in separate societies anyway.
 
One way i've seen used to Deal with that incongruence with the schools would to have those named Hogwarts, Etc.
Be Internationally Certified schools with national schools beneath Graduation gives something along the lines of a International Drivers license for magic.
This likely isn't Cheap.
Graduate Hogwarts or the others and you can get a job anywhere in the world without having to retake each nations Certifications Exams to be employed to do magic Their versions of OWLS and Newts.

Whereas those graduating from the national schools if they moved to another country.
They'd have to pass that nations certification exams to be employable in that country.
Thoughts?
 
wildredlifer said:
One way i've seen used to Deal with that incongruence with the schools would to have those named Hogwarts, Etc.
Be Internationally Certified schools with national schools beneath Graduation gives something along the lines of a International Drivers license for magic.
This likely isn't Cheap.
Graduate Hogwarts or the others and you can get a job anywhere in the world without having to retake each nations Certifications Exams to be employed to do magic Their versions of OWLS and Newts.

Whereas those graduating from the national schools if they moved to another country.
They'd have to pass that nations certification exams to be employable in that country.
Thoughts?
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It certainly seems shortsighted and screwy enough to fit Harry Potter based off of the Flying Carpet and Space Expansion bans.
 
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