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Somebody Else [Pokémon]

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[x] Approach one of the 5 Families for a second Pact.
-[x] Approach the Squirtle family.

lol
 
Wysteria said:
Okay, since I can't get this out of my head, this is just the first possible scenario for how this could work off the top of my head. I'm sure there are lots more. A series of worldbuilding assertions in rough order:
1. People are not stupid, but may be in denial.
2. The deaths in the human population are unsustainable. The human population is dying.
3. People know that. They react in two main camps. Camp one, composed mainly of pokemon and the self-sacrificing, wants to eke out each human life and death to the last drop, using them up until they run out. Camp two, composed mainly of humans, is in denial. They'll be fine! Someone else will die. Someone not their friends and family. Let it be someone else. The math is probably wrong anyway. Who needs math, right?
3. Trainers have a lifecycle. Children stay in the town/city, learning to do their jobs. Very little education outside the necessary and the appropriate propaganda. You're going on an adventure! You'll be fine! (Someone else will die. No one ever dies. We're all immortal. Ash is just on a mission that's gone over-time.) They go out as child soldiers. The ones who survive, with good genes and pact strength, are unsubtly encouraged to settle down, at least long enough to have children. The woman probably stays home to care for the kids. The man goes out on a mission. He'll be fine.
4. Rinse. Repeat.
(5. We didn't put grandma out on an ice floe to die. She volunteered. We're very proud of her.)
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Which still doesn't fit with leaf and garry's reactions, it's hard to be for everyone to be in denial when so many have lost dear ones.
You seem to be forgetting that if the humans die out, it's the pokemon that are fucked too, they'll all lose their sapience and go wild, if we are working under the assumption that people aren't idiots, then there'd be a third block that is trying to figure out a different solution.
I also feel like we're making it out as worse than it actually is, I mean sure they are under constant threat and life is hardly easy, but society seems to be stable enough, their only major issue is the scarce vital resource (which grows back so is technically sustainable but scarce due to the difficulty of getting a lot of it), honestly speaking population sizes should remain pretty constant with the only big shifts being villages being wiped out by sieges or the rare super powerful wild pokemon. their biggest population problem should be growth since only so many people can live in one area before they use up to many resources (or simply don't fit within the everstone's range anymore, which is only fixed by trainers finding and (re?)activating the big everstones.
 
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Having a smaller team gives us no benefit. The best reconciliation will be not dying.

[x] Approach one of the 5 Families for a second Pact.
-[x] Approach the Squirtle family.
 
emberwing said:
Which still doesn't fit with leaf and garry's reactions, it's hard to be for everyone to be in denial when so many have lost dear ones.
You seem to be forgetting that if the humans die out, it's the pokemon that are fucked too, they'll all lose their sapience and go wild, if we are working under the assumption that people aren't idiots, then there'd be a third block that is trying to figure out a different solution.
I also feel like we're making it out as worse than it actually is, I mean sure they are under constant threat and life is hardly easy, but society seems to be stable enough, their only major issue is the scarce vital resource (which grows back so is technically sustainable but scarce due to the difficulty of getting a lot of it), honestly speaking population sizes should remain pretty constant with the only big shifts being villages being wiped out by sieges or the rare super powerful wild pokemon. their biggest population problem should be growth since only so many people can live in one area before they use up to many resources, which is only fixed by trainers finding and (re?)activating the big everstones.
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A couple misc points:
  • Leaf and Gary are from a very small village. We'll know more once we see larger towns/cities. We could be making out to be worse than it is, but we could be underestimating the scope of the problem, too.
  • I wouldn't say I'm forgetting that the pokemon will lose their sentience and go wild. That's why everyone is so frantic. That's why everyone's on the line. I'm sure there are more than two factions, and my hypothetical isn't the real worldbuilding anyway.
  • Society seems stable, but it seems stable in a mostly-post-human way. Jobs have been adapted to require fewer opposable thumbs. Pokemon earn their own money and have their own Houses and economy. The only economic problem is that humans are still required to stabilize things.
  • Your latter point is fine, as long as your definition of 'people' is 'pokemon' and your definition of 'resource' is 'humans.'
 
FicreaderL5 said:
though I would go for right David afterwards
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You may be overestimating how much free time we have? We're in the military now and all.
Adhoc vote count started by Wysteria on May 6, 2019 at 9:48 PM, finished with 24 posts and 12 votes.
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Adhoc vote count started by Wysteria on May 6, 2019 at 9:49 PM, finished with 24 posts and 12 votes.
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[X] Approach one of the 5 Families for a second Pact.
-[X] Approach the Squirtle family.

We can punch her Bulbasaur later, I guess
 
[x] Approach one of the 5 Families for a second Pact.
-[x] Approach the Squirtle family.
 
wdango said:
Think of Stone as your fossil fuels, but at the same time more renewable and dangerous to mine.
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Okay, the replenishment element makes a bunch of thing fall into place for me. Otherwise, the trainers would have to continually rove further afield in search of relics, with no effective means of reclaiming or seizing territory, which is a losing proposition.

wdango said:
Let's just say this is a super magic world where Humans don't get crippled and where super magic healing exists.
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That also explains how this can work at all.

emberwing said:
Sure but the elderly and the crippled will be a minority (as most people won't make it to that age) leaving enough young bodies (and I easily still count middle aged people within that category to man the frontlines) hell having old trainers who can't really walk or run man the home guard in case of a siege is something i can see as likely since they'd have those powerful pokemon in their retinues in defence of said village, but active duty is just not something you can expect a 50-60+ year-old to do.
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It might help if you didn't use regular people as your expectation baseline.

Think of it as every man jack of humanity being a Wuxia guy/DnD monk. They don't really get debilitated as they age, they turn into progressively scarier motherfuckers until they bite off more than they can chew defeating an enemy army or some shit.

And if medicine/healing magic is as powerful as it is implied, the only injuries bad enough that they can't be healed/recovered from in the long are fatal ones.

Thus, no-one is crippled by injury, and a 50-60 year old human is a dubiously mortal demigod, not an aging soldier past their prime.

Magnive said:
I should be good now. Just needed to get it out of my system.
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Bitter recriminations are more or less part of the voting cycle, anyhow.
 
Skewfiend said:
It might help if you didn't use regular people as your expectation baseline.

Think of it as every man jack of humanity being a Wuxia guy/DnD monk. They don't really get debilitated as they age, they turn into progressively scarier motherfuckers until they bite off more than they can chew defeating an enemy army or some shit.

And if medicine/healing magic is as powerful as it is implied, the only injuries bad enough that they can't be healed/recovered from in the long are fatal ones.

Thus, no-one is crippled by injury, and a 50-60 year old human is a dubiously mortal demigod, not an aging soldier past their prime.
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That's what I was trying to say if it weren't 5am and I wasn't mostly asleep.
 
[x] Approach one of the 5 Families for a second Pact.
-[x] Approach the Squirtle family.

I'm pretty sure that trying to reconcile with Leaf right now is a mistake. She's scared, and for good reason. We need to show, not tell, her that we can make it. And that starts with picking up a tank for our party.
 
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