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So we know what George Lucas wanted to do with episode 7-9 now

How much do you wish George Lucas was still making Star Wars?

  • As much as Lumpy wishes Chewy would come home for Life Day.

    Votes: 21 28.0%

  • As much as Boba Fett wishes to fight a blind guy with a stick.

    Votes: 54 72.0%
  • Total voters
    75
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"[The next three 'Star Wars' films] were going to get into a microbiotic world," he told Cameron. "There's this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force."

Elsewhere in the conversation, Lucas admitted, "Everybody hated it in 'Phantom Menace' [when] we started talking about midi-chlorians." In terms of his storytelling, Lucas regarded individuals as "vehicles for the Whills to travel around in…And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force."

Lucas is confidant that had he kept his company, the Whills-focused films "would have been done. Of course, a lot of the fans would have hated it, just like they did 'Phantom Menace' and everything, but at least the whole story from beginning to end would be told."


Let's all just soak in this idea.
 
I believe that to be a serious idea as much as I believe his previous claim that Star Wars was meant to be one film chopped up into three.
 
DracoDracul said:
I have and this sounds exactly like the kind of thing that would come about by Lucas overthinking a perceived problem.
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Seems more like an idea on the pipeline on the road to a good one than an actual idea. But since Lucas has pretty much nothing better to do than troll the media, why wouldn't he pretend like it was serious?
 
foamy said:
I don't know how one can read TDH and not come away with the conclusion that D&G was a thing...
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My reaction was, at first more disturbed.

No, not because he was gay, but more of the fact that Dumbledore is written to feel like the grandfather type or some of the older teachers. The reaction is more akin to hearing about your grandparents sex habits...not something you normally want to hear about.
 
George definitely needed more people to butt heads with him when he was making the prequel trilogy rather then just a bunch of "Yes men."
Part of why the OT is the way it is? People called him out and challenged him on some ideas. Hell, I heard the footage to the first film had to be re-edited as the first cut was such a mess, some people had to literally sneak into an editing suite.

The PT though is by no means end of the world bad, Ep. III is pretty darn good, but as a whole the PT could of had some parts surely fixed.
 
I'm someone of the opinion that while the prequels were bad George Lucas was by no means some idiot rube when creating them and was trying to make a point. Namely trying to tell a story of how a government can turn to fascism and how the mythologized heroes of the first trilogy were in actuality just another rotten institution that falls due to their own actions creating the conditions for space Hitler to arise.

Then I look at this and wonder if the above isn't just a whole of bollocks because I can't understand what he could possibly be getting at by making movies that blathering on about tiny blood microbes and the "Whills" or whatever.

One things for certain, there'd be no Rose Tico, so regardless of whether or not these sequels would have been good we still win out in the end.
 
The Swarmlord said:
George definitely needed more people to butt heads with him when he was making the prequel trilogy rather then just a bunch of "Yes men."
Part of why the OT is the way it is? People called him out and challenged him on some ideas. Hell, I heard the footage to the first film had to be re-edited as the first cut was such a mess, some people had to literally sneak into an editing suite.
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According to SFDebris, Lucas had actually wanted people to butt heads with him, but scheduling demands prevented that from happening. Trying to stall for criticism would probably lead to the "building a lava castle set that never gets used in the final cut" issue, but on a grander scale.
 
Triggerhappy said:
The ideas behind the prequels were really good. Put in the hands of a better writer and a co-director to polish them I think they would not have earned their current reputation.
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I find this a sort of debatable claim. The very broad strokes ideas were good, but even just the basic plot points seem screwed up and backwards.
 
Sometimes I wonder what would have happened had George Lucas gone with the original idea he had for the Clone Wars (an army of clones from the Unknown Regions/Dark Space invade the Republic leading to a thirty-year long effort to repel them leading to the Used Future we see in the Original Trilogy). Now, I'm one of the people who actually thinks what we got could have been good with a more "on the top of his game" Lucas or with good people for him to bounce ideas off of but I do wonder how the whole thing would have changed.

I picture a slightly apocalyptic story of a society set to collapse during and after a brutal thirty year long war leading to Palpatine's rise to power. (It'd certainly explain away Palpatine's support in light of the 0% Approval we see across all of Star Wars media if he was seen as someone responsible for ending the clone menace).
 
Tasrill said:
Lucas is confidant that had he kept his company, the Whills-focused films "would have been done. Of course, a lot of the fans would have hated it, just like they did 'Phantom Menace' and everything, but at least the whole story from beginning to end would be told."
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I'm not convinced that he isn't just trolling.:V

Then again, midi-chlorians. I guess it could go either way.
 
MagicMan333 said:
Sometimes I wonder what would have happened had George Lucas gone with the original idea he had for the Clone Wars (an army of clones from the Unknown Regions/Dark Space invade the Republic leading to a thirty-year long effort to repel them leading to the Used Future we see in the Original Trilogy). Now, I'm one of the people who actually thinks what we got could have been good with a more "on the top of his game" Lucas or with good people for him to bounce ideas off of but I do wonder how the whole thing would have changed.

I picture a slightly apocalyptic story of a society set to collapse during and after a brutal thirty year long war leading to Palpatine's rise to power. (It'd certainly explain away Palpatine's support in light of the 0% Approval we see across all of Star Wars media if he was seen as someone responsible for ending the clone menace).
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Hell, the old Star Wars Encyclopedia had him as an idealist who was corrupted AFTER gaining power. More "power corrupts" than "mastermind chessmaster outsmarts everyone"
 
TBh I would have preferred the clone armies being a riff on the Roman legions with Palps and Anakin as Caesar and Augustus. Go full on dystopian cyberpunk with megacorps breeding clone armies and the Jedi themselves caught in the middle of it.

Id also make Anakin and Padme into married battle couple with both falling to the dark side via the war and Obi Wan putting them down (or trying to in Vaders case).
 
I loved Episode III a lot, in fact I consider it my favorite Star Wars movie outside of Empire and Rogue One.

But this... Like,

I mean, it would open the door for pretty CGI environments. Like, with Quantum Space in Ant-Man. But yeah, that sounds just too silly. But at least it would have come from the original creator. But, Lucas needed people to challenge him and say 'its time to stop posting'. He can just go too far at times.
 
McBobbish said:
To be honest, I don't actually think the prequels earned their reputation.
They aren't the best movies. But they're not *that* bad.
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I disagree, i really think they ARE that bad.

I will even go so far as to say that Revenge of the Sith is the worst of the three, and Phantom Menace is, for lack of a better word, the best one.
 
Arawn_Emrys said:
Hell, the old Star Wars Encyclopedia had him as an idealist who was corrupted AFTER gaining power. More "power corrupts" than "mastermind chessmaster outsmarts everyone"
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That dates back to the Star Wars novelization, which leads with a brief history of Palptaine's rise and the decline of the Republic, which is specifically said to be the result of the greedy yes-men whom he appointed to high office and who then manipulated him. This treatment actually presents him as good-intentioned, but a useful idiot for the venal and corrupt. Given the year of 1977 there are some parallels that can be drawn to both the U.S. and the Soviet Union's recent history.
 
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