Shield Hero, but hopefully Heroic

Uh guys...training is NOT taking it easy? Its all about deliberately straining your body for improvements. Doctor's advice. Do social type work first.
Good point. I'm changing my vote. I just wish we had more time to make sure that things are going well before leaving.

Alternatively, our training doesn't necessarily have to be an intense physical workout. Since we're training for monk stuff, maybe our "take it easy" training for the day could consist of an hour or two of breathing exercises, meditation, and tai chi or yoga - just something to try getting us into a better headspace - after which we do something more productive, such as the guild/union startup?
 
Good point. I'm changing my vote. I just wish we had more time to make sure that things are going well before leaving.

[X] Start a Union. You know nobody has even thought of them yet... But you know the power of organized peoples... So get organized! Pick one.
-[X] Businesses United

I'm going to vote for the union instead of the adventurer's guild because Yukihime has no idea what the current adventurer's guild is like. How can she advertise her guild as being better than the current one when she doesn't know anything about it?

I'm going with "Businesses United" because Yukihime is on good terms with at least a couple of businesses so that gives her a place to start.

you know what you have convinced me so changing my vote to [X] Start a Union. You know nobody has even thought of them yet... But you know the power of organized peoples... So get organized! Pick one.
-[X] Businesses United
 
you know what you have convinced me so changing my vote to [X] Start a Union. You know nobody has even thought of them yet... But you know the power of organized peoples... So get organized! Pick one.
-[X] Businesses United
That's great! The vote needs to be on a new line to be picked up by the vote tally though.
Alternatively, our training doesn't necessarily have to be an intense physical workout. Since we're training for monk stuff, maybe our "take it easy" training for the day could consist of an hour or two of breathing exercises, meditation, and tai chi or yoga - just something to try getting us into a better headspace - after which we do something more productive, such as the guild/union startup?
While I'd like to do that, I doubt we'd get that option. We've already seen that picking the wrong option can backfire so I'm trying to keep an eye out for potential drawbacks. I'm just never sure which option is the "right" one.
 
[X] You will create your own adventurer guild. Not only will this prepare more men and woman for the waves, it'll give you a loyal force of arms and a source of income.
-[X] You will look for Motoyasu, and send a courier after the illusive Ren, maybe they'd be interested in being partners in this? You'll still head the organization of course, but you'll be surrendering personal loyalty to yourself and cash flow for broader membership.
 
Tallying, actually doing it this time and not misclicking.

Updating tomorrow. Voting is still open, I'll close it an hour before updating.
Adhoc vote count started by Sword of Mars on May 27, 2019 at 10:19 PM, finished with 22 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] You must prepare for your fight with Itsuki. You must train your spiritual energy and martial arts.
    [X] You will create your own adventurer guild. Not only will this prepare more men and woman for the waves, it'll give you a loyal force of arms and a source of income.
    -[X] You will look for Motoyasu, and send a courier after the illusive Ren, maybe they'd be interested in being partners in this? You'll still head the organization of course, but you'll be surrendering personal loyalty to yourself and cash flow for broader membership.
    -[X] Businesses United
    [X] Start a Union. You know nobody has even thought of them yet... But you know the power of organized peoples... So get organized! Pick one.
 
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[X] You will create your own adventurer guild. Not only will this prepare more men and woman for the waves, it'll give you a loyal force of arms and a source of income.
-[X] You will look for Motoyasu, and send a courier after the illusive Ren, maybe they'd be interested in being partners in this? You'll still head the organization of course, but you'll be surrendering personal loyalty to yourself and cash flow for broader membership.
 
-[X] You will look for Motoyasu, and send a courier after the illusive Ren, maybe they'd be interested in being partners in this? You'll still head the organization of course, but you'll be surrendering personal loyalty to yourself and cash flow for broader membership.
 
Not going to throw a vote. Just a proposed write-in if anyone goes Union faction, instead of "Prep as Shield." But well...

[] Start a Union. You know nobody has even thought of them yet... But you know the power of organized peoples... So get organized! Pick one.
-[] Zen of Karma
--[] Creed: "To prevent, treat and deal with suffering, vice and malice in all it's forms."



Before I go "but Itsuki", or not going something as classy as "The People's Army". I'm going in a bit of a hunch, given speculative past.

Warlord: Going "Max Edge" would lead to us 'playing' with the Shield Demon 'angle'... Until we're not "as" different from the Inquisition at best, or "our nightmare's Screw Force" in evil despair.

Prince: It'd be "El Noble Bitch". And though IMO, it'd be more... Tolerable, in taste. With angle of vice filled hope. It'd likely be filled with "Flowers" of cultism. Something I don't think our MC's dignity would want too much.

Dignity however...

My angle is, for it to truly be our Shield Heroine's own, name. That she can take pride and relief under. It should not be a name to fuel her vices for Revengeance, or Rulership. But a name she can swear on, to protect the innocent. And to ensure there's no more War Children like her, if she can help it.

Give or take, the old 'salve' this MC may have had, was from odd priests. And given how our 'Shield Companion' is also a monk. I can honestly throw an argument that our MC could end up wanting to base things more on... A degree/manner of faith, untainted by evil, or tyrants. Or inner demons...

Which honestly, if things go derailer. Could be a 'potential' front to go political war games/conversion of an antagonistic Bishop/Pope of Three Heroes, to go "All Shield Heroine". But honestly, biggest problem with that, is it might alternatively go if things go souther; "Replace Shield Demon with Bow Demon" sort of fallacy.

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As for the name logic, I'd say that maybe it'd be a sort of rebellion of her own, just to say "Fuck you" to all kinds of evil. Both on the vices that want to consume/possess her, and the demons she knows of all too well. And maybe/perhaps on that angle, she'll find redemption.

As for going home? Honestly, I don't think our MC would want to go back to 'her' Japan. Maybe Motoyasu's at a push (or Itsuki's, or Ren's.) But never, her "Japan". If that happened, it'd probably be more on "hey Divine Beasts? Here's a deal. Don't eat this world. In exchange, you can eat my world to your heart's content. It can DIE for all I care..."
 
As for going home? Honestly, I don't think our MC would want to go back to 'her' Japan. Maybe Motoyasu's at a push (or Itsuki's, or Ren's.) But never, her "Japan". If that happened, it'd probably be more on "hey Divine Beasts? Here's a deal. Don't eat this world. In exchange, you can eat my world to your heart's content. It can DIE for all I care..."
We have a daughter there.
 
[X] You must prepare for your fight with Itsuki. You must train your spiritual energy and martial arts.
 
[X] You will create your own adventurer guild. Not only will this prepare more men and woman for the waves, it'll give you a loyal force of arms and a source of income.
-[X] You will look for Motoyasu, and send a courier after the illusive Ren, maybe they'd be interested in being partners in this? You'll still head the organization of course, but you'll be surrendering personal loyalty to yourself and cash flow for broader membership.
 
Aight so I was busy today, so the update is happening tomorrow.

Aight, Martial Arts it is.
Adhoc vote count started by Sword of Mars on May 29, 2019 at 6:28 PM, finished with 31 posts and 17 votes.
 
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Strength
[X] You must prepare for your fight with Itsuki. You must train your spiritual energy and martial arts.

You needed strength. All the political and economic power in the world would be worthless if you couldn't hold onto it with your own two hands... So you'll train yourself to become stronger, it's just that simple. So you walked towards the inn you were staying at to meet with William once more. You briefly stopped at your own room to change back into your combat outfit, you didn't want to ruin the Prince one so soon, before arriving at William's door. You didn't hesitate knocking, you were already sure that now was the time for action. Eventually, William opened his door.

"Yukihime, I thought it would be best to let you recover after what the demon must have shown you." You suppress a flinch at the reminder, "I have finished... 'Recovering'. I want to continue." You put every ounce of conviction you had into your voice. "You're still willing to continue? Why... For all you know I'm going to subject you to something horrific again." William was stoic, but something told you, your answer would be very important... You smile a bit empty "...I hate the world. That was one of my first thoughts after my father was killed like a dog! Life has given me plenty of more reasons to despise it. I hated living in a world of bone and ash, living off scraps of a long bygone era... Then I was summoned here, and I realized I hated this one too... I hate the system of slavery here, to the point I avoid it at any cost to avoid cutting down a slave owner. I hate the discrimination I've faced since I've been summoned... I hate how the world is slowly ending... I want to change it! The world... It doesn't need to be this way, if I could be strong enough... If I could be powerful enough to make the world better, to change the hearts of the people! If I could save the world... Then it doesn't matter how much it hurts. I'll tell you what I said to the dream demon! It doesn't matter if you show me that a million times! It doesn't matter if you subject to me something a million times worse! I'd do it all the same anyway!"

You were huffing a bit after your impromptu speech... William was quiet for a long time until you hear clapping from him "Good answer. Seeking power for the sake of power is meaningless... It should never be the ends to the means itself. It must always be something you acquire on your road towards your goal... Or at least that's what I think of course. We'll begin your training immediately as you wish." William led you out towards the forest... "We're heading out this way so we can work without interruption. There is very few suitable spots inside the city." William explained this to you on the way... Eventually you both go silent, not really willing to go into small talk. Soon enough you and William find and clear a suitable clearing in the forest of balloons giving you ten to sell later.

William looked at you his eyes flashing a blue color before nodding to himself, "It seems that your energy has calmed from being forcibly released earlier. You have an impressive amount that I didn't expect, but I can work with this... For right now I'll teach you a basic technique, this doesn't require any special training and will assist you more than most even if it doesn't seem like it. Many people instinctively grasp this technique so I have no doubt that you will get it quickly. This is a simple energy detection ability, it'll allow you to sense your own energy and most importantly... The energy of people nearby. Firstly, you must go into a meditative state. Once you achieve that, you must actively search for your energy, due to having so much of it this should be very simple. Finally, you must push that energy out like an expanding dome from you... As a caution you must NOT attempt to push your emotions into the energy and must remain calm. Do this and you will have learned the technique and we will spend time drilling it into you so that it's instinctual so you can always sense your own energy." You nodded, listening attentively.

Setting yourself down, you begin to attempt to enter a meditative state. It takes a long while, but you're not unused to meditation. Once you were almost entirely sure you were deep enough, you attempted to search for your energy... You found it almost immediately at the edge of your Awareness. You prod it a little, it reacting sorta like slime before continuing onto your task. You try suppressing your emotions and you're successful, another familiar task. Finally you 'grabbed' the energy and 'expanded it' all around you. Immediately you start detecting the grass under your feet, the trees around you, and William watching over you in 360 degree 'vision'... Except that the vision is completely colorless and missing many things you know were there like branches, stumps, rocks and such... Things that weren't alive, you couldn't detect. You open your eyes after cutting off the technique by 'cutting' the stream of energy coming out of your body.

"Well done Yukihime! What did you see?" William looked very proud, you didn't really understand it if it was so simple. "I saw the world without color, everything that was alive in around a... Twenty foot range? I think I could go beyond that if I put more energy into it but I didn't see the point in testing my limits the first time using this power." You were pretty happy you managed to do it. "Every... Everything that's alive? Yukihime do you mean you see the grass? You see the trees? You see it all clearly?" William looked a bit off balance at that and you didn't really understand, was he testing you? "Yes, the world was the same, aside from the lack of color and the things I cannot detect like... Rocks and dead plants... Shit like that."

William sat down. "Yukihime... This technique is only supposed to sense people. I have been able to use it in a similar function but its blurred, unfocused... Truly you are something special." Oh, so you weren't supposed to do that. Huh. "Well... Yukihime, lets get started drilling this into you... I'll be watching... After a while I will be deliberately breaking your concentration and then we will see if you can use it in a fight."

So for the next few hours that's what you did. You sat, kept doing the sensory technique over and over. Occasionally hit by a rock, or a stick, or the flat of William's staff before you were able to do it instantly and feel your energy (of which you had a large amount, not as much as William but around half) outside of actively holding the technique. Before William could strike you again which was more annoying than painful, you blocked it ready to fight.

You launched yourself towards William, who blocked redirected your fist with his staff. He sent a palm strike at your abdomen, only for you to slap that aside... Only to get kicked in the face and sent to the ground, where you recovered with a roll. William vanished, and you activated your new technique flawlessly intercepting the now colorless William staff with your hand before it could smack you in the face. Ripping him closer so you could punch him, only for him to let go of the staff and deliver a strike to your chest. You stumbled back a bit, and William took advantage of that vanishing again. You used your technique to attempt to locate him, only to find yourself unable. You were confused for a moment, before deciding on a whim to include underneath you in your 'bubble' of detection only to watch as William ascended from the ground to deliver a punch. You were sent sprawling, but had enough sense to fall into a position to recover from.

This continued for some time, with you losing badly and learning how to defend against a multitude of attacks from hidden opponents. Basically you got your ass beat while learning to detect the invisible man.

So you know how your Awareness skill is like, max. Yeah, you blew this shit out of the water and would have accidentally unlocked your spiritual energy anyway, this is just streamlining it and making sure you didn't hurt yourself. Uh for example, the longer that you were in the First Lesson 'Dream Arc' the longer your Awareness skill was bringing out your spiritual senses which allowed you to stop seeing Saki, and start seeing the demon you wanted to kill. Also hey your war veteran status actually came into save your ass by the way, learning to suppress your emotions saved you from fucking yourself over with your emotions.


William wants to teach you something else.

[X] Martial Arts. "No, Yukihime I'm not going to teach you martial arts via 'kicking your ass', I'm going to teach you some moves that will go well with your own style, and correct some weaknesses I've spotted."

[X] More Spiritual Energy Techniques. "Now that you can sense your own energy I suppose I can teach you something... Yes I suppose this will be alright." You must choose one of the following for this option.
-[X] Iron Body Technique. The best offense is a good defense.
-[X] Wrathful Giant. You will crush them like a bug.
-[X] The Third Eye. No lie will escape your sight.
-[X] Ash and Bone. For everything will return to nothing.

-[X] Healing Touch. To be able to heal others, but not yourself.
 
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[X] The Third Eye. No lie will escape your sight.

Really, this or Healing Touch. Getting a non-violent Technique that lets us prove we're on the Side of Good.
 
Huh, I'm wondering if GOLD is actually good. I think there are supposed to be 7 virtues to go with the 7 sins, right?

[X] Healing Touch. To be able to heal others, but not yourself.

I'm going with Healing Touch because I think she would want to be able to help William and anyone else she cares about if they get hurt.
 
I'm just gonna confirm that almost all the colors you unlock have good and bad things attached to them. You unlocked them via trauma and mental scarring, but they aren't all negative.
 
OKAY! FELLOW QUESTERS WE MUST THINK MOST CAREFULLY!
Because more than a few of these have Emotional affectations attached, and thus will significantly lean us towards one of the various colours, in addition to our strategic concerns.
MA is the first. Improve our hand-to hand and thus become more skilled on a baseline. I don't think this one has too much 'colour' affectation, despite it being bolded white but I'm not entirely certain of that.
Alternatively, are the five spirit moves we can learn.

Iron Body is direct Shield thinking- if they can't break you but you can break them, you win. Simple and to the point. As a bonus, should scale with our 'Prince Outfit' quite nicely!

Wrathful Giant. This is either Berzerker strength or literally turning into a Giant. If it's turning into a Giant I WANT THIS! Seriously getting to have Kaiju fights will be awesome and it'll make us great for clearing out chaff. The problem will be peer powers that like fighting big targets.

The Third Eye's arguement is basically Yukihime has near 100% spirit vision. We grab this and turn on that 'Spider Sense' shield and she basically becomse Tousen- good at seeing things. We might even start to get [Scan] shenanigans or maybe even sensory powers to the point of reverse-engineering magic...I'm feeling like I'm running out of references/notions of how good Yukihime is getting at percetion. Video Game HUD?...So good she can start telepathically alerting others to ninjas/hivemind? Hearing thoughts?...Maybe someone else can see more clearly where this could go?

Ash and Bone- UHHH THIS JUST SOUNDS TERRIFYING! I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT THIS EVEN IS BESIDES YIKES!!!

Healing Touch- The Saintly option. Plays HARD into the 'Savior of all' role, to even enraging the Church of the Three for being more 'Divine' then their heroes...And as-is we've several healing shields that might piggyback off this to become more powerful/fuse together into a greater whole.
 
OKAY! FELLOW QUESTERS WE MUST THINK MOST CAREFULLY!
Because more than a few of these have Emotional affectations attached, and thus will significantly lean us towards one of the various colours, in addition to our strategic concerns.
MA is the first. Improve our hand-to hand and thus become more skilled on a baseline. I don't think this one has too much 'colour' affectation, despite it being bolded white but I'm not entirely certain of that.
Alternatively, are the five spirit moves we can learn.

Iron Body is direct Shield thinking- if they can't break you but you can break them, you win. Simple and to the point. As a bonus, should scale with our 'Prince Outfit' quite nicely!

Wrathful Giant. This is either Berzerker strength or literally turning into a Giant. If it's turning into a Giant I WANT THIS! Seriously getting to have Kaiju fights will be awesome and it'll make us great for clearing out chaff. The problem will be peer powers that like fighting big targets.

The Third Eye's arguement is basically Yukihime has near 100% spirit vision. We grab this and turn on that 'Spider Sense' shield and she basically becomse Tousen- good at seeing things. We might even start to get [Scan] shenanigans or maybe even sensory powers to the point of reverse-engineering magic...I'm feeling like I'm running out of references/notions of how good Yukihime is getting at percetion. Video Game HUD?...So good she can start telepathically alerting others to ninjas/hivemind? Hearing thoughts?...Maybe someone else can see more clearly where this could go?

Ash and Bone- UHHH THIS JUST SOUNDS TERRIFYING! I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT THIS EVEN IS BESIDES YIKES!!!

Healing Touch- The Saintly option. Plays HARD into the 'Savior of all' role, to even enraging the Church of the Three for being more 'Divine' then their heroes...And as-is we've several healing shields that might piggyback off this to become more powerful/fuse together into a greater whole.
We DO NOT need any more RED. RED and BLACK are 2 colors that I think Yukihime has too much of already. I strongly suggest we stay away from Wrathful Giant & Ash and Bone.

Martial Arts and Iron Body should both be useful for the fight with Itsuki. I'm avoiding Martial Arts because Yukihime was SUPPOSED to take it easy for a couple of days to let the potion heal her fully. Iron Body is ok, but I'm a bit worried that the training will involve Yukihime getting hit over and over again to practice keeping it steady.

The Third Eye just says that Yukihime will be able to see through any lies, not all of what you said. I think she's been pretty good at reading people so far, and it seems like the kind of ability that would make her lose even more faith in people.

I like Healing Touch because I think Yukihime would want to be able to help the people she cares about if they get hurt, and there's a risk of William getting hurt in the fight against Itsuki if things go wrong.

I don't think we're locking ourselves in any particular path solely by choosing one of the colored options here. I'd still suggest avoiding RED and BLACK because Yukihime has a lot of RED traits, and BLACK seems to be despair. We might get the option to learn another technique later on by asking William to teach us more.
 
Iron Body is direct Shield thinking- if they can't break you but you can break them, you win. Simple and to the point. As a bonus, should scale with our 'Prince Outfit' quite nicely!

Martial Arts and Iron Body should both be useful for the fight with Itsuki. I'm avoiding Martial Arts because Yukihime was SUPPOSED to take it easy for a couple of days to let the potion heal her fully. Iron Body is ok, but I'm a bit worried that the training will involve Yukihime getting hit over and over again to practice keeping it steady.
Considering how much of a wreck her body already is, even more Defense on top of being the Shield is a good idea. … Especially since she's the Shield, and therefore is supposed to be intercepting attacks. Being able to no-sell attacks Berserker-style also means that she'll be good at identifying things that are actually dangerous by virtue of them being able to scratch her (insert dangers of Pride/overconfidence).
 
[X] Healing Touch. To be able to heal others, but not yourself.

Welp, unless anyone wants to sway me back to Third Eye, being able to Heal Others does seem the best choice for building positive reputation. That, and keeping people alive & healthy.

Huh, depending on how effective/powerful it is, she could do some really potent stuff with it...
 
[X] More Spiritual Energy Techniques. "Now that you can sense your own energy I suppose I can teach you something... Yes I suppose this will be alright." You must choose one of the following for this option.
-[X] The Third Eye. No lie will escape your sight.

This just seems like a good idea to get asap, with this our perception abilities should be close to bulletproof, and we can start putting in more effort into offense, support, and perhaps more defense.

The third eye could really give us a lot depending on how it actually works, and there's no real way to know without getting it.
 
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