Seeing Chaos: A Jujutsu Kaisen/WH40K Quest
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[X] You know what? Fuck it. If there was ever a time for a good cry, this is it.
Roth963
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Yuta also used Rika to regulate his cursed energy, and contain his techniques in a way his brain couldn't, making copy, which should have allowed him to copy two techniques (max three techniques per brain), copy as many technique as he can get.
And she also has a bunch of other nifty benefits like being able to heal him even if his body die, shapeshift into various useful forms, hold cursed tools, fire cursed energy beams and more.
We are unlikely to be able to easily make something like Rika, but she does show how useful a shikigami that isn't part of a technique can be, and if we are mostly aiming for regulator of warp energy that can be replaced should it go rogue, rather than all the uses of shikigami at one, it is a pretty different thing.
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Also who says we can't make multiple Shikigami? One for Warp Control, One for CT Stuff, One for Yadda Yadda. Sure there's probably a limit on how many a person can make, but I imagine you can have some for differing tiers of Shikigami. Also we're Gojo so we can push what's normally acceptable. One Domain a Day? Nah we can spam it like 3~4 times. Gojo's just never needed the Help but we're in uncharted territories so having something(s) as a safety precaution would work well. (Maybe we could create a Shinigami that's all around barriers, & anti-domain stuff that we can use to protect civvies or our students [Actual Kids/Teens] while we go ham wild.)
Roth963
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I suspect the average shikigami is petty weak, Rika an anomaly.
Even Agito, four fused shikigami of the strongest shikigami using CT couldn't keep up with Gojo.
Imbuing your technique seems to be something that isn't usually done, Junpei did, but Rika for example can't use Yuta's techniques.
I guess it means that if Gojo made shikigami, it wouldn't come with limitless pre installed.
It probably waste cursed energy to summon and maintain (probably not a problem for Gojo with the warp on tap), there are more conditions to manifesting them than raw energy (Yuta can fully manifest rika for five minutes while wearing a ring, which doesn't just imply he used a binding vow, but the ring also has strong connection to cursed spirit rika, connection that will be hard to make).
Just like how cursed tools are mostly not useful to Gojo, I suspect shikigami were the same.
Gojo shown to be seeking strength, if Shikigami would have made him stronger, he would use them.
But Gojo also used to have the backing of the jujutsu world, and making a good shikigami is probably heavy investment, I imagine that if Rika died, Yuta will at least need to spend some months or years remaking her like he did post jujutsu zero, assuming he would be able to remake her and wouldn't need to start from scratch with making a whole new shikigami.
I think that after we ask Elias for tips about warp manipulation, we can start making shikigami to automate the process of getting cursed energy from the warp, but I doubt making a shikigami for everything will be easy or fast.
There are probably also binding vows involved, binding vows exist all throughout jujutsu from what we see, kenjaku make every single barrier with vows, let only this person not pass, strong from the inside, weak from the outside, put the anchors in public easily seen places to make the barrier stronger and so on.
Shikigami users probably make paths to limit themselves to number of shikigami and make limitations on using them to make them stronger.
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[X] You know what? Fuck it. If there was ever a time for a good cry, this is it.
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Ya know what? Imma write a list of basic Jujutsu stuff/techniques we could teach even if we don't utilize it ourselves since we're literally the last/only bastion of knowledge for Jujutsu Stuff.
Edit: Here's everything I could think of!
Barrier Techniques (Aka: You're going nowhere!)
- Simple Barriers (Basic Barriers)
"Creating" Techniques (Aka: Ways for Normies or Non-Combatants to Help!)
- Cursed Corpses (Jujutsu Robots)
Anti-Domain Techniques (Aka: Fuck Your Domain, Fuck Your Attack, and Fuck Your CT!)
- New Shadow Style: Simple Domain (Simple.)
Other Techniques (Aka: The Other Stuff.)
- Shikigami (Jujutsu Summons)
Edit: Here's everything I could think of!
Barrier Techniques (Aka: You're going nowhere!)
- Simple Barriers (Basic Barriers)
- We're already doing this RN, so not much to say.
- Curtains ("Barrier Expansion")- Basically a more advanced version of Barriers. They're like Domain Expansions without all of the buffs and only keep its targets inside or outside of it.
- Domain Expansions (Do I even need to explain?)- We all know what this is.
"Creating" Techniques (Aka: Ways for Normies or Non-Combatants to Help!)
- Cursed Corpses (Jujutsu Robots)
- Cursed Corpses are probably one of the things that teaching to someone else to make would be probably useful (other being Cursed Tools) they can be created to serve functions as long as you supply them with Cursed Energy. So as long as you have a Jujutsu Sorcerer nearby to make sure they get a refill they can keep on working.
- Cursed Tools (Jujutsu Weapons)- I imagine Cursed Tools can be created outside of a Cursed Technique, similarly to how Nanami's blade gained his CT. Just with CE instead of CT. Just work with an item and imbue it with CE consistently over a period of time. CT's being infused into a C. Tool probably require a CT making it or the CT to be directly linked to it being used (Ex: Nanami's CT)
- Talismen (Jujutsu Seals)- Basically Mini Barriers to seal stuff. Just more helpful basic stuff that others can make so that the normies can be upped with our kick ass team/kids.
Anti-Domain Techniques (Aka: Fuck Your Domain, Fuck Your Attack, and Fuck Your CT!)
- New Shadow Style: Simple Domain (Simple.)
- The more simple of the choices (heh), while Domains are unlikely to be encountered due to… well being 40k instead of JJK. From what we've seen from Kusukabe having an auto reflect attack in a set area is really useful!
- Secret Art: Falling Blossom Emotion (Emptional!)- Basically Simple Domain but smaller, more compact, and closer to you but doesn't require you to move. Letting your cursed energy be the one to do the automatic counter attacks instead of your body/weapon.
- Domain Amplification (…Amplifiable?)- Gojo's seen it and like how he figured out how to do the RCT output he can probably figure out how to do this and maybe teach it. And having a way to Anti-Cursed Technique for enemies is always a good thing. Sure this gives way for enemies to copy it but… well we've seen that's doesn't really matter to Gojo. And besides there's always the possibility they figure out how to do it themselves like in canon. Kenny might be still around for all we know!
Other Techniques (Aka: The Other Stuff.)
- Shikigami (Jujutsu Summons)
- Giving others the ability to summon backup on command relative/helpful to their own skill level would be a godsend to normal people. Just gotta make sure what you summon aren't murks that won't help at all and only act as meat shields.
- Reverse Cursed Technique (Healy Technique!)- Emperor Juice on Command! Seriously combining this with Biomancy, or just teaching it to those who don't have Biomancy would help survival rates skyrocket.
- Binding Vows (Agreements with Yourself & Others.)- A simple way to make agreements someone can't back out of, or ways to buff yourself up in easy gives and takes.
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Roth963
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The black guy's family made the black rope over generations, and Maki's glasses look pretty intentional.
I suspect you can just make tools into cursed tools of all levels without CT, it is just that there ways to make it easier and stringer, prison realm is the corpse of some crazy monk if I remember correctly, as example.
Chaos also bind demons into tools, so the same can probably be done with shikigami, but that probably new grounds to Gojo, while weapons with souls inside might have been made in canon (the way Mai amd Youzuru treated their final creations seem to imply they lived on in them), I don't think we see a single one that is a cursed tool created by binding shikigami.
Tailsmans can do more, we see a guy summoning a shikigami in canon with them, kenjaku used them in barrier construction.
I suspect that similarly to simple domain, you meed to take a vow to learn it unless you copied it by watching someone use it.
Gojo might be incapable of teaching it directly, only using it in front of others, falling blossom is limited to the great clans, so he probably meed to at least adopt you to the gojo clan before teaching you, and it probably meeds to be geniune because cursed energy is more about intent than exact words.
I am not sure if undertook a vow to learn simple domain or did it through replicating it, but even if he took the vow, I think it can be taught, if with slight difficulty.
It might be useful to learn, but I doubt we want to teach others until we trust them with everything we have.
We destroyed the prison realm for being able to get past infinity (decision I disagree with but came here too late to vote), teaching others how to get past it before demons bring the need by developing their own techniques? Sounds risky.
Do you want to fight bloodthirsters without the advantage of infinity?
Demons probably also going to try pretend being ones.
If I remember correctly, thousand sons bound warp beings as familiars before those revealed themselves to be demons when the space wolves attacked, in combined universe, they probably pretended to be shikigami.
Reverse cursed techniques are probably harder to teach than biomancy, but they also destroy demons (this is how yuta killed the cockroach spirit by kissing it), we can try, but I suspect it would be long term project for most unless they are like Shoko and are natural savants.
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Fair on all of em. I was mostly just trying to think of every single thing that isn't innate that we could possibly teach. It wasn't a 1:1 this is everything they can do but more of a brief description. These are long term projects of teaching. I doubt we'll get ones that are like Yuji n Yuta who can go from knowing nothing to being special grade in a year.
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[X] You know what? Fuck it. If there was ever a time for a good cry, this is it
Gojo's lost everything. Lets just let him grieve for a little bit
Gojo's lost everything. Lets just let him grieve for a little bit
Roth963
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I noticed something funny, I don't think vengeful spirits are a thing here, people shown confusion about saturou giving his friend a "proper" death.
Than again, it might be the demons eating all the spirits in the warp before they can come back.
Than again, it might be the demons eating all the spirits in the warp before they can come back.
[X] You know what? Fuck it. If there was ever a time for a good cry, this is it.
-[X] Close off your connection to the Warp first; no need for that bullshit when you're finally venting your emotions.
-[X] Close off your connection to the Warp first; no need for that bullshit when you're finally venting your emotions.
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Apparently there's a chance they still do:
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Honestly, considering how Cursed Techniques naturally evolve with time, and how even Inherited Techniques can change with the times as seen with Yuji, perhaps it would make more sense to adapt Barrier Techniques to the new 10K years old script?
Also, considering Gojo has finally learned how to imbue Reversed Cursed Energy into others, would he be able to pull a Yuta and one shot Curses/Daemons?