Salted Spires (A Cradle Quest)

[X] Plan: Kaia
- [X] B. A boy shot down faster than you fell, wrapping you in his arms as he held you close. Your older brother Tama Soft-Storm held
- [X] 4. Brother/Sister (Genderfluid) (All of the above, depending.)
- [X] G. Sagacious

Anyone up for giving me a rundown of what Cradle is? Ill give it a read if it sounds really cool 😎
Tylan answered mechanically what cradle is so i'll give a quick insight as to the actual story.

Cradle is, at a galactic scale, a kitchen sink setting. Every world has its own systems of magic and once you rise above your world "ascend" it gets a bit more sci fi but that is irrelevant mostly as the story is centered on one world in particular, 'cradle'.

Cradle has your typical xianxia power system that tylan went into. The actual story at its core is a VERY shonen jump-esque battle shonen.

Mc underdog starts off getting shit on in his community. Gets a lucky break, makes friends, makes enemies, fights those enemies. Makes more friend, more, stronger enemies who they fight. The story loop mainly consisting of needing to power up in various ways (mainly cultivation) to survive the next big baddie. Its got a very fun cast of characters, a cool setting and is a good read.

Just don't expect a ton of depth or character development. It is a battle shonen to its core. If you like those, i reccomend it! If not, i do not.
 
Shouldn't there be another vote in this plan?

[X] Plan: [Lōkahi]
@ArcanaVitae your plan is missing a Talent. I'd like to come out in support of either Sagacious or Gregarious. DK just made a good case for Gregarious above Mr, and Sagacious is the obvious pick for being good at the main thing that makes one stand out in this setting.

[X] Kaia
[X] Kalia
[-] [Lōkahi] (pending talent vote)
Added the talent it was initially Dedicated but for some reason it wasn't added. I want to go more into Soulforging.
 
[X] Plan: [Kalia]
[X] Plan Fae
[X] Plan: Kaula

I like the Swift Gale path
 
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Additional Elements Change
And yes, Earth doesn't mean you're against swimming. You could even aim to integrate Water into your Path later. Everything's a mono Path for that reason.

@KarmaA I'm actually rescinding this part in particular, if it mattered to you. You will still be able to add an additional element to your Path, but I think it'll be more fun if you are pushed into gaining one of the types that isn't represented in this vote.

So if you want Earth/Cloud/Blood/Water/Wind, you need to pick those up as your first elements.
 
Just in case people are curious, the canon known madra types are listed here: Madra

Always possible Kitty may add some.

Note that Pure madra is the default madra type of humans, but it is only possible to use alone, you can't have a Earth/Pure path, for example. Also, Sword madra would be more properly named something like "Edge" madra, it encompasses all bladed weapons.
 
Something's gone wrong with the tally system. It's mixing people's plans up, says DK's plan is named Lokahi, doesn't show Lokahi Alternative.

Thanks @Tylansimov for the madras link.

Gods above please KE let us cultivate Dream Madras. It's all I want for Christmas.

Also, when will you close the vote?
 
Always possible Kitty may add some.

I probably won't, but I have always been fond of the little lore tidbit that Sword Madra is technically just a specialized form of Force Madra, formed by cultivating a specific form of Force Aura with enough regularity that it became accepted as a normal standard madra.

So if I did introduce any special Madras it would be something like that most likely.
 
Something's gone wrong with the tally system. It's mixing people's plans up, says DK's plan is named Lokahi, doesn't show Lokahi Alternative.

Thanks @Tylansimov for the madras link.

Gods above please KE let us cultivate Dream Madras. It's all I want for Christmas.

Also, when will you close the vote?

Yeah the Tally system is a mystery to me.

As for Dream, it's possible. There's a lot of options! I do have plans (that those in the SV discord most likely saw) regarding how you're going to end up with a Protagonist Level Cheat.

Vote will close whenever I finish the next Xin Wu post, which will be started on friday night. So probably saturday night.
 
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Yeah the Tally system is a mystery to me.

As for Dream, it's possible. There's a lot of options! I do have plans (that those in the SV discord most likely saw) regarding how you're going to end up with a Protagonist Level Cheat.

Vote will close whenever I finish the next Xin Wu post, which will be started on friday night. So probably saturday night.
I believe its due to using brackets for names. Brackets are checked for by the tally system for votes and having brackets there threw it all off i think. Conjecture, but its what makes sense to me.
 
Gotta sort by Block, not by None.

edit: Wait no what the fuck, I didn't vote for Lōhaki but it says I did. Might need to handcount at the end of this 😬
Adhoc vote count started by CedeTheBees on Dec 11, 2024 at 9:23 PM, finished with 40 posts and 23 votes.

  • [X] Plan: [Lōkahi]
    [X] Plan: Temanao
    -[X] A. Earth Path Architect, Solid Techs, Construction
    -[X] 1. Brother
    - [X] L. Lucky
    [X] G. Sagacious
    [X] Plan Fae
    [x] Plan: Makana
    -[x] A
    -[x] 2
    -[x] K
    [X] B.
    [X] 1. Brother (Male) (He/Him)
    [X] Plan: [Lōkahi]
    - [X] B. A boy shot down faster than you fell, wrapping you in his arms as he held you close. Your older brother Tama Soft-Storm held
    - [X] 1. Brother (Male) (He/Him)
    - [X] J. Dedicated - You have watched your parents and siblings do their work your whole life, and have more advanced knowledge of your family's Specialty Focus, and a technique from their Path. You also find learning from your family specialty easier.
    [X] A. A stone hand reached out from the cliff face, and grabbed a hold of you.
    [X] Plan: Kaia
    - [X] B. A boy shot down faster than you fell, wrapping you in his arms as he held you close. Your older brother Tama Soft-Storm held
    - [X] 4. Brother/Sister (Genderfluid) (All of the above, depending.)
    - [X] G. Sagacious
    [X] Plan: Four
    - [X] C.
    - [X] L. Lucky
    - [X] 3. Sibling (Agender/non-Gendered) (They/Them)
    [X] Plan: Kaula
    - [X] E.
    - [X] 4.
    - [X] L.
    [X] Plan: [Lōkahi]
    - [x] E. A blast of wind suddenly sent you flying back inwards towards the cliff-face, but before you can smash into it, you feel hands tug on the collar of your clothes - tossing you back upwards towards where you started. Your sister Lani Swift-Stride was far from gentle as she joined as swiftly as your shared name would imply.
    - [x] 2. Sister (Female) (She/Her)
    - [x] I. Gregarious - Your talent lies not with yourself, but with your interactions with others. You are often surrounded by friends on the Spire, and have few if any you would call enemies.
    [X] Plan: Kaia
    [X] Kalia
 
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@KarmaA I'm actually rescinding this part in particular, if it mattered to you. You will still be able to add an additional element to your Path, but I think it'll be more fun if you are pushed into gaining one of the types that isn't represented in this vote.

So if you want Earth/Cloud/Blood/Water/Wind, you need to pick those up as your first elements.
Well dang some aerated earth to make a path of quicksand or watery earth to create a path of mudslides would have been interesting (and work with the island theme). Defensive trap specialist and hydraulic (or pneumatic) designer will have to be more of a team effort.

Just so I'm 100% clear there's nothing conceptual or somesuch going on that would mean we're unable to swim though right? Eventually we'd be able to use cultivator physique to do things like hold our breath for longer than a normal person or swim faster since we've got stronger muscles. We wouldn't automatically become too dense to float
we just wouldn't be able to do cultivator water manipulation stuff. Living on islands but being unable to enjoy swimming, surfing, kayaking, snorkeling etc. feels like it'd be culturally isolating and very confining.
 
[X] Plan: [Enoha]
-D
-2
-I

This, would make Enoha Depthwatcher, a female water cultivator with friends everywhere!
 
Just so I'm 100% clear there's nothing conceptual or somesuch going on that would mean we're unable to swim though right? Eventually we'd be able to use cultivator physique to do things like hold our breath for longer than a normal person or swim faster since we've got stronger muscles. We wouldn't automatically become too dense to float

Yeah you would be a better than mortal swimmer even with Earth. Some of your techniques might be harder to utilize or make it hard to swim, but for enjoyments sake you'd be fine.
 
[X] Plan: Wai
- [X] D. No one caught you - instead, the water flowed with you as you splashed down into it from a fall that should have killed you. A deep well forming as the water did not let you smash against it, but instead followed with you slowing your descent but leaving you ten feet underwater. The strong arms of your brother Roa Depth-Watcher fished you out of the water, as he swam you to shore, leaving you to cough up the water you swallowed.
You are a member of the Deep-Watcher family, the premiere family of fishermen for the islands - the man who sent you off the cliff was probably one of your cousins. Your family ensures people are well fed, and also act as the only 'refiners' of your people, utilizing the aquaculture from the shallows to deep within the seas.
Your starting path is the Path of Treasured Depths, a pure Water path with a focus on Refining.

- [X] 4. Brother/Sister (Genderfluid) (All of the above, depending.)
- [X] L. Lucky - You don't know how to explain it, but things just... go well for you. You just happen to find discarded scales on the floor here and there, you just happen to wake up right before your Mother yells at you for sleeping in, your sibling just happens to be nearby when you fall off a cliff.
 
Manual Vote Tally, Day 1
Alright, since the tally is broken for some reason, I just got done taking a manual count of all the votes:

Lōkahi - Cloud/Boy/Dedicated - 8
Temanao - Earth/Boy/Lucky - 4
Kalia - Wind/Girl/Gregarious - 3
Kaia - Cloud/Genderfluid/Sagacious - 3
Fae - Wind/Agender/Sagacious - 2
Makana - Earth/Girl/Treasured - 2
Toriah - Earth/Agender/Sagacious - 1
Four - Blood/Agender/Lucky - 1
Kaula - Wind/Gendefluid/Lucky - 1
Lōkahi Alt - Water/Fluid/Lucky - 1
Enoha - Water/Girl/Gregarious - 1
Wai - Water/Fluid/Lucky - 1

Lōkahi is in the clear lead, with twice as many votes as the second most voted.

In terms of elements:

Cloud - 11
Earth - 7
Wind - 6
Water - 3
Blood - 1

Cloud is on top, but not quite as dominant! This is going about how I expected, honestly.

Gender distribution:

Boy - 12
Girl - 6
Fluid - 5
Agender - 4

Is this gonna be the first time I've had to write a male MC ever in my writing career? Terrifying!

Dedicated - 8
Lucky - 8
Sagacious - 6
Gregarious - 4
Treasured - 2

Dedicated only shows up in a single character vote; but it's the most popular one! It's equal to lucky in terms of popularity due to that, and only a little more popular than Sagacious. I'd say this is the vote I'm most surprised by. I was afraid I was making Full Bodied too strong in comparison, but I definitely didn't need to worry.


Remember that this is an approval vote: If you wanna vote for multiple options because you'd be okay with any of them, you can. But please only submit one plan of your own.

This vote will end this weekend.
 
Trying my hand at my own plan, not that I really expect much traction but I just had an idea I liked. If my google-fu is correct, and who knows there, Kamalani should mean something like Heavenly or Treasured Child.

Basically it came down to the fact I really like the idea of a Cloud path, I can think of a few way to grow it depending on what other Madra types we'd incorporate. Also while I agree with others in the thread that I wouldn't want to push for a hard Crafting focus, knowing a little soulsmithing so as to be able to do proper maintenance of any treasures we find/commission/start with and maybe be able to make a few non-combat utility items is always a handy skill.

As to gender I am ambivalent I don't really care too much but in my head for some reason I see my plan as a girl <shrug>. My head is a weird place I don't recommend delving too deep. Though I'll probably approval vote for Gender Fluid because that could be an interesting perspective.

Finally the talent, the idea that when our character is born our parents say "This child is the Treasure promised to us by our great Ancestor" or something like that appeals to me. We get a shiny treasure out of it as well as a lot of built in pressures and story hooks that we can snag or ignore or rail against as the thread decides. But the idea caught me so gonna give it a shot.

[X] Plan: Kamalani
- [X] B. A boy shot down faster than you fell, wrapping you in his arms as he held you close. Your older brother Tama Soft-Storm held you gently, his Enhancement making him as gentle as a nursemaid. A puff of cloud coming from his feet as you both landed at the shoreline, neither of your crushed by the impact as the clouds protect you.
You are a member of the Soft-Storm family, a family of Cloud artists - your family and the related families create and maintain the cloud bridges that connect Spire to Spire, and allow your home to be called united.
Your starting path is the Path of Tamed Storms, a pure Cloud path with a focus on Soulsmithing.

- [X] 2. Sister (Female) (She/Her)
- [X] K. Treasured - You were born under a star that meant you matched a family prophecy from an oracle - and thanks to that, you are set to inherit a valuable family treasure that will be valuable through to your Gold stages.


For the purpose of approval voting I'm also gonna stick my other choices down here

- [X] A. A stone hand reached out from the cliff face, and grabbed a hold of you. It was still rough stone and you could feel the bruises forming, as you looked up to you sister Merae Spire-Carver, whose Forged hand had caught you - and then began to raise you upwards towards her, back onto the path you were once on.
You are a member of the Spire-Cutter family, a family of Earth artists - your family are the premiere architects of the Salted Spires, and every home, every shop, every window has been made and maintained by a member of your family or their branches.
Your starting path is the Path of Carved Stone, a pure Earth path with a focus on solid techniques and construction.

- [X] 4. Brother/Sister (Genderfluid) (All of the above, depending.)
- [X] G. Sagacious - In matters of spirit, you take to change like a fish to water. You are better at cycling than most of your peers, and reached Copper younger than most. This does not aid in learning techniques.
- [X] H. Full-Bodied - You have always been blessed with greater physical prowess than those your age - you are taller, stronger, and tougher than all of your peers. You can out wrestle the kids three years your senior.

Also some random musings because I am apperently not done yet...somehow

For a Cloud path, good secondary Madra types would be things like Dream (cloud watching) or Force for adding some soildity/punch to our abilities. But also something like Fire to turn towards makeing a Smoke or Ash based path would also be a possibility.

If the Earth path does win I am so gonna be pushing for adding Fire to make a Lava/Volcano path. Pele was a big important goddess for a reason! LAVA SURFING :p

Now I should go rest I have ranted a weirdly long time for me...back to the lurking shadows!
 
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