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Katanas and other Japanese weapons were all pretty much made out of Pig-Iron. Not very good stuff, hence the folding process in a katana's creation. Removes impurities.
 
So, a katana made out actually good steel would logically be even more awesome? :V

I'm actually only being half-sarcastic- could a sword made with good metal and a folding technique in forging actually be stronger?
 
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If you have good steel you wouldn't need to fold in the first place, and may actually ruin it if you decide to fold anyway and go too far.
Starting with good steel would just shorten the forging time.

Despite how cool they are, and how ridiculously sharp they are, katanas are incredibly fragile weapons. You require a LOT of training to be able to use one effectively without breaking/dulling/chipping it in short order.

Katanas aren't the most practical of weapons, all things considered. That is unless your setting runs on rule of cool instead of reality; then katanas are king.
 
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Weeble said:
Katanas and other Japanese weapons were all pretty much made out of Pig-Iron. Not very good stuff, hence the folding process in a katana's creation. Removes impurities.
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Doesn't actually remove the impurities, just spreads them more or less evenly through the blade and thus lessens the likelihood of huge flaws in the temper.
Weeble said:
If you have good steel you wouldn't need to fold in the first place, and may actually ruin it if you decide to fold anyway and go too far.
Starting with good steel would just shorten the forging time.

Despite how cool they are, and how ridiculously sharp they are, katanas are incredibly fragile weapons. You require a LOT of training to be able to use one effectively without breaking/dulling/chipping it in short order.

Katanas aren't the most practical of weapons, all things considered. That is unless your setting runs on rule of cool instead of reality; then katanas are king.
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This. For all their hype, the pros and cons of a katana are such that it's not really any better than a European longsword or something similar. Japanese swords are sharper but less durable, and also rarer than their European counterparts and harder to maintain, while European swords have the advantage of cheaper forging requirements.
 
Actually. Wait.

Okay, so since this is running on an Underworld version of SAO, belief actually effect the world around you.

Klien likely doesn't know crap about steel but has had "Katanas are awesome" drilled into his head basically from birth.

So have most of the other players there.

With that in find, if nobody convinces him he's wrong. In his hands the katana might actually be stronger than an European sword.
 
Ridiculously Average Guy said:
Actually. Wait.

Okay, so since this is running on an Underworld version of SAO, belief actually effect the world around you.

Klien likely doesn't know crap about steel but has had "Katanas are awesome" drilled into his head basically from birth.

So have most of the other players there.

With that in find, if nobody convinces him he's wrong. In his hands the katana might actually be stronger than an European sword.
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So, what if someone with no magical healing spell skills at all, let's call this person 'Mirito', believes that if you botch a healing attempt bad enough it will heal for negative damage. Does that mean he can run around using mumbo jumbo healing spells that he just makes up on enemies and watch their health drop faster than Kirito's happiness sanity level?
 
Edison_Trent said:
So, what if someone with no magical healing spell skills at all, let's call this person 'Mirito', believes that if you botch a healing attempt bad enough it will heal for negative damage. Does that mean he can run around using mumbo jumbo healing spells that he just makes up on enemies and watch their health drop faster than Kirito's happiness sanity level?
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IF he believes it hard enough? maybe.
 
So if, in the hypothetical final boss fight against Nakihiko Shayaba, Klein charges in with a Katana and Shayaba pulls up the wikipedia page on sword craftsman ship and shoves it in Klein's face, Klein's hypothetical katana would shatter into a thousand pieces of unsuspended disbelief?
 
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So if, in the hypothetical final boss fight against Nakihiko Shayaba, Klein charges in with a Katana and Shayaba pulls up the wikipedia page on sword craftsman ship and shoves it in Klein's face, Klein's hypothetical katana would shatter into a thousand pieces of unsuspended disbelief?
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Probably not immediately because of all he's invested in it, but yes.
 
I'm just gonna go ahead and ruin it for everyone - Underworld!Aincrad's Fluctlight is not like that. While the Soul Translator's method of rendering 'graphics' by basically just tricking the brain into thinking it's seeing the super-duper high-fidelity graffix is actually correct now that all the trapped players are floating around in the server, and the dynamic time dilation system is basically the same, you can't warp the fabric of the virtual world through sheer willpower. Knowing how Fluctlight works will not make you The One, and being an immense weeaboo won't make your 1000-times-folded meteorite steel katana able to cut dimensions.

In other news, I made a small edit to the update to fix a few issues that were raised to me.
 
Generally my feelings on Klein being a bro and your comments about it.

-Klein enters a church-

Priest: Congratulations Klein of Furinkan your deeds have pleased the lord and all of us here now will grant you this title of 'Saint Patron of Bros'.

Church goers & audience: Cheers of happiness and fitting music.

Klein & the gang: .......... What?
 
SAO had swords.

ALO had magic and swords.

Now, we have magic that can be applied to swords. Oh yeah! Klein's spell me of Diablo 2's Enchant skill, except this one allows for the flames to stack on the enemy and explode, which blows ordinary sword magic right out of the water.

Isn't it sad for Kawahara that you can write a story with the same premises, and make it much better by focusing on people who really want to get out, rather than the kid who'd love to play the game forever?
 
Nice update, and worth the wait. Really likening Klein and it is a nice setup for operation Loli-sting.


also because I am a pedant, katanas were not sharper then equivalent European slashing swords.
 
kjyl said:
Nice update, and worth the wait. Really likening Klein and it is a nice setup for operation Loli-sting.


also because I am a pedant, katanas were not sharper then equivalent European slashing swords.
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The question is whether Kayaba or the rest of the team would care to not make them sharper.
 
Klein is a character who deserves more love in the original work. I'm glad to see him getting some here.

I think I like the way it turned out more than I would have Klein dying. The second would have basically been Kirito using his agency-vampirism again, now I come to think of it. Here it's Klein's choices that matter the most, rather than Kirito's, and that's what's made it enjoyable for me to read.
 
Edit: It was intentional.
 
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doge said:
@ZerbanDaGreat Typo! Klein should be capitalized. Thanks for the story.
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He didn't want to move. Felt like he couldn't. What are you supposed to do after something like that? Say after something like that. It felt like his armour was made of woven lead. It felt like no effort, however strong, would make him move. Every part of him hurt. Every joint, every muscle, every inch of skin. Like his body trying to exact some kind of revenge, some kind of punishment. He wanted to lie down in a tarry pool of misery and wait to die.

but klein asked

Kirito stood. His body screamed at him, the bruises of Jólnir's mighty backhand smash crying out for consideration, but he ignored it all. He scooped up his swords and hacked at the air, two backhand slices that traced an X before him and drove the pain and fatigue away.
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I think that was an intentional 'everything in lower case' thing.
 
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