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Radiant Rebirth (Hollow Knight x RWBY)

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w34v3r said:
Now my only question is: what exactly she's gonna do as a member of the troupe?
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I have no clear idea of that because it goes way beyond this story's scope. She could be on guard duty if some critters try to attack the troupe. She could run across the lands to spread word of the Grimm Troupe's arrival. She could be Grimm's personal assistant and join his first boss fight, or advise the caretaker. She could do something completely different.

The audience is free to substitute whichever answer they like the most.
 
w34v3r said:
What was asked was why she was doing her end of mortal life stuff at seventy five when she should be basically Remnant's version of the little ghost and able to put down any monster or foe you point her in the general direction of up to and including divine ones, and still have a solid 30 to 40 years in her easy
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Grimm had to leave as part of his nature. Ruby was invited to join the Troupe, so if she wanted to come it was now or never. Since she's never coming back to Remnant it's functionally the same as death to those she leaves behind, so she might as well do end of life stuff for their sake.
 
...no, leaving aside the reincarnation stuff, that body is older than the current crop of elite veterans such as team -TRQ or Glynda.
 
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It would really help if we had ages for people other then the teenagers.
 
w34v3r said:
...no, leaving aside the reincarnation stuff, that body is older than the current crop of elite veterans such as team ST-Q or Glynda.
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I checked, and if we're willing to accept the books as canon, which I'll understand if we don't, Theodore is less than 50 and older than Ozpin, so Ozpin was pretty young, for someone of his position.
 
Onmur said:
I checked, and if we're willing to accept the books as canon, which I'll understand if we don't, Theodore is less than 50 and older than Ozpin, so Ozpin was pretty young, for someone of his position.
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Which Theodore? My brain is sticking on chipmunk, but I know that's not right.
Ozpin was headmaster when team STRQ was in school. He's gotta be at least fifteen to twenty years older than they are.
 
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w34v3r said:
Ozpin was headmaster when team STRQ was in school. He's gotta be at least fifteen to twenty years older than they are.
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Not necessarily, if you take into account who he is, and thus, that his mind is older than his body, then he could well be the same age as them, or close to it. Definitely not 15 years older, my biggest estimate would be 5.

And even if he was 15 years older than team STRQ... do you know how old they are? It's not told as far as I know.

Because they can be barely over 35 as long as Raven got Yang young, and her we go, an Ozpin that is around 50 and still 15 years older than them.

Which leaves a lot of leeway with what I pointed out about that estimate being way pessimistic on their age difference.
 
Yes, but that doesn't give him skills right out the bat. To say nothing of the reputation and job history. He doesn't pick which poor schlubs he gets dropped into next. It still take shim time to get all that set up.
 
w34v3r said:
Yes, but that doesn't give him skills right out the bat. To say nothing of the reputation and job history. He doesn't pick which poor schlubs he gets dropped into next. It still take shim time to get all that set up.
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Unless he was able to get in contact with that era's Ozluminati and nepotism'd his way into getting all his shit back.
 
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Unless he was able to get in contact with that era's Ozluminati and nepotism'd his way into getting all his shit back.
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Which, you know, makes sense.

The current version of it contains at least two headmasters, with one that is also a councilman in his kingdom, as well as at least two instructors of another combat school.

Plus the second in command of his current school.

Have him get in his new body at around Oscar's age, hell, even five years older, which give time for the fusion to finish, use a probably already created thing for prodigies and the backing of several very important people, suddenly, he doesn't need that much time to get where he is.
 
Except that he still needs the time to retrain his actual skills and get some actual accomplishments under his belt, to say nothing of how old the body may have been when he got it. We only have one on screen example and it was some early teens radish farmer with no training. Most of the cast was training almost since they could walk. He wasn't a prodigy, he was Jaune 2.0 now with more exposition.
 
I just realised that we never saw Nora and Ren's perspective on Shiroyuri's slaughter. It makes sense that they would not confront Lumina about it given Ren's nature and Nora's, from what I remember, already orphaned status. But I find it curious given we never saw their perspective. Although were they there for Lumina's slaughter or did they leave much earlier, like the first time the town got overrun by Grimm?
 
YzahasPsychosis said:
I just realised that we never saw Nora and Ren's perspective on Shiroyuri's slaughter. It makes sense that they would not confront Lumina about it given Ren's nature and Nora's, from what I remember, already orphaned status. But I find it curious given we never saw their perspective. Although were they there for Lumina's slaughter or did they leave much earlier, like the first time the town got overrun by Grimm?
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You mistake city names there. Ren and Nora lived in Kuroyuri. I was being cheeky when I set Lumina's hometown to be Shiroyuri. They did not know each other before meeting at Beacon.
 
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Shiroyuri is the destroyed town they come across in volume ... Four or five, that starts triggering the flashbacks to Ren and Nora's home town.
 
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I liked just about all of this but I think you did Ghost dirty, especially in the epilogue. sure it was supposed to be an empty vessel, blank mind, blank soul, into which endless light could pour without ever filling it up or finding any purchase but the Pale King failed, that was an important point, if the Ghost were truly willless and mindless then it would have been used in the prison and the Radiance would have been stuck screaming into an uncaring void forevermore so there must have been something the Pale King thought the Radiance could one day subvert.
"Little Ghost" definitely did seem to have some sorts of motivation in the game though it's hard to tell what's just the player's influence.
 
Evonix said:
I liked just about all of this but I think you did Ghost dirty, especially in the epilogue. sure it was supposed to be an empty vessel, blank mind, blank soul, into which endless light could pour without ever filling it up or finding any purchase but the Pale King failed, that was an important point, if the Ghost were truly willless and mindless then it would have been used in the prison and the Radiance would have been stuck screaming into an uncaring void forevermore so there must have been something the Pale King thought the Radiance could one day subvert.
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Have you... forgotten the game's first ending? The one where Ghost takes over for the Hollow Knight and, presumbaly, seals The Radiance inside the Black Egg for good?

Like, entire implication of the story is that the Pale King succeeded in creating empty vessels, but then sabotaged himself by interacting too much with the one he hand-picked to be the Hollow Knight, instilling a mind and feelings?

The full nature of Ghost is up to interpretation, like most things in this game. Whether they are truly empty (which is what I went with), whether they are not, whether they develop something in there in the process of obtaining the Void Heart, those are all possible readings. I certainly did not 'do them dirty' by picking my preferred interpretation of the lot and sticking with it.
 
Ghost's [Purity] or lack there of is hard to declare decisively, not only due to the flaws the Pale King introduced to the process but also to the fact that the Ghost spent time in the wastes, presumably being constantly scoured of sophonce and identity. Much of their thoughts and opinions on things are intentionally hidden, obscured, or muted, if they even exist. Much is left open to interpretation by conscious decision of the devs.
 
Naron said:
and, presumbaly, seals The Radiance inside the Black Egg for good?
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It's possible, though the Hollow Knight itself also served as a seal for some time before the Radiance started to leak out. We don't know if the Ghost is perfect and don't know if the seal will last this time. I lean towards no, if only because I don't think their actions match what a truly emotionless vessel would act like, but in the end it's all ambiguous. If interaction alone is enough to taint the emptiness of a vessel, I would think that all the people you have to talk to, several of which display some care towards the Knight, would do the same.
 
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Well, considering that that ending is the easiest to get, and doesn't really require you to go out of your way, or interact with anyone meaningfully, then it makes sense that in a universe where Ghost just speedruns to it, then he would be more likely to be pure.
 
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