Also its rob not robber.Alexander89 said:Simple: I adjusted them to the standards of Gensokyo. Compared to the FSN...yeah not funny. Also don't think Karna is too OP: what I gave to him is just enough to deal with what I have in store for the future. I got crazy plans!
Marisa and Reimu, the two Main Characters (in Touhou).
Didn't every know relation in Gensokyo began with misunderstandings and violence? I didn't want him to have it easy, even at the beginning. But I assure you, when he gets friends it's for life. He is a Bro like that.
[Quest] The Noble Virtue of a Sun's Return
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Be glad you aren't squaring off against Joan Marisa.Alexander89 said:
Is that you Shikieiki?Alexander89 said:
It's "rob".Alexander89 said:
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HymnOfRagnarok said:
Better?
He doesn't need IA because Gensokyo is cut off from Gaia's Counter Force. He's producing his own prana and absorbing it from the atmosphere. He is similar to a Servant, only better.
He wasn't, but this is Heroic Spirit Karna: a perfect existence with no Servant Class nerfing and a massive power boost from all his fame.
Edit: changed to "rob". Thanks people.
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Yeah, that makes sense. Doesn't matter what OP bullshit you can do if your opponent can decapitate you at mach 4 (or whatever it is a true Heroic Spirit can manage) before you can use it. Would make for a very short and dull quest.Alexander89 said:Simple: I adjusted them to the standards of Gensokyo. Compared to the FSN...yeah not funny. Also don't think Karna is too OP: what I gave to him is just enough to deal with what I have in store for the future. I got crazy plans!
Marisa and Reimu, the two Main Characters (in Touhou).
And I really should have guessed that it was Reimu that Marisa was talking with. *Facepalms*
Crazy plans? Well... this'll be fun.
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Red Oni, Blue Oni?HymnOfRagnarok said:
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"Yes I think he will. I also think this guy is about the only person you will never be able to rob."
Also as I see it, in terms of power scale:
Human Scale ---> Servant Scale ---> Heroic/Divine Spirit Scale
There is no specific reason.Alexander89 said:
There no specific reason beyond that would would make plant youkai love water, bird youkai love sky, and et cetera.
Things like that do matter in relationship between beings what are really influenced by the concepts, and, in most cases, actually are human understanding of concept "----" given flesh.
Why not Yuuka, a flower youkai who lives in garden what named Garden of Sun would not feel some sympathy for someone who pretty much "the Sun God given human form"? When people put such importance to relationships between Sun and Plants?
That said,did you read a Perfect Memento in a Strict Sense? Сould we use it as a more-or-less (To some extents;Its canon what Akuu borked some facts) reliable source of OOC information?
Servants bodies created by Grail have some pre-set stats. In rare cases it might be not impossible what being a Servant boost one of their stat or another, like it probably was for Arturia.Silver W. King said:
Her legends does not have any legendary feats of prowess against magic, but yet, here it is, Resistance to Magic A. Aside from this little details, I always believed Servants[Heroic Spirits to be true.
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Well, its not like the containers were made to make Servants own stats meaningless?HymnOfRagnarok said:
And yet, its less guidelines and more like stats of equipment. Rider body, Saber Body, Caster body... They either enchant or decrease natural affinities of HS or, in case of Extra or Riders ability to ride everything including things what they never should have knew how to ride, they actually add something what HS were unable to do in-life.
Its a sum of factors.LolExtra said:
So, we agree?.. I kinda did the same. I generally tend to check things, if I can.HymnOfRagnarok said:
Did I quoted the Nero magic resistance description? I am not quite sure if there is any proof needed to confirm what there might be a synergy between Heroic Spirit and Grail granted advantages.
Grail cuts off all Noble Phantasms what do not fit an assigned class for that, yes, but that is already question of "Was what cut off? Actually, did Grail managed to find a piece of legend what are incompatible with Servant Class?"
If answer is "No", Servant recieves whatever stats boost he should recieve for his Class - ME, Ride, Magic Resistance, Presence Concealment, one of those - in addition to whatever he already has and whatever his Master bond is going to grant to him.
Servants are not perfectly ressurected - but aside from that detail what makes them waste prana like mad simple to support their own existance, they indeed, could have more advantages than HS if they have right compability with Grail system.
I am not sure what is the problem.
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Karna may seriously consider it, if she looks TRULY destituteGrosstoad said:
*spittake*Alexander89 said:
It boosts Karna's Luck by one rank?!
Karna?
Who could possibly make such an impressive charm? Truly this is a land of potent magics, indeed...
There are conditions under which Karna gave out his stuff. Though yes, it's possible/likely he'd do just that.Grosstoad said:
Except maybe the Megatama -- but that's because he might think that its not entirely his to give away in the first place. If it's a clue rather than a gift, then it's more like he's just hanging onto it for a purpose.
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Not to mention, Karna might indirectly GAIN something from Marisa, of all things! Such as a Fangirl/thief who may 'like' his brutal honesty, somehow...
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This strikes me as entirely hilarious and maybe d'awwwww worthy, it has my support.Master Basher said:
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Did not. I will see if I can find it somewhere. It is to take with a grain of salt, I believe?Prospalz said:
I thought Marisa takes pride in her strength gained with hard work and not simply talent? Boastful even?Shura12305 said:
Also if I am to write Suika I will need some reference, like a very good fic. To understand how she might react to certain situations: even more if she is drunk at the moment.
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_SenseAlexander89 said:
Enjoy. Its a piece of in-universe information by Akyu, describing Gensokyo as seen from the human point of view.As for how reliable it is...
Yeah, do not trust it complitely.
Edit.
Ninja!
...
Aaaaand I think we lost him. Snaaaaaaaaake!..
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Ah ah, no. I just had something to take care off. Thanks for the links guys.
Also I probably shouldn't say it but we are not so forward in the Touhou timeline as Ten Desires. Like I said, crazy plans. Awesome too.
Also I probably shouldn't say it but we are not so forward in the Touhou timeline as Ten Desires. Like I said, crazy plans. Awesome too.
Master Basher
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Nothing better than the smell of GM Improvisation in the morning...
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"Uhm..." Karna looks around again. 'Exploring the land is all well and good, but I shouldn't be so hasty to depart: there may be a reason I was summoned here after all.'
Also his current vantage point isn't the best: with how tall the sunflowers are it's possible there are buildings nearby he couldn't at the moment see and, most importantly, people outside of his perception range. His is nothing to scoff about but he hasn't the finesse of a proper spellcaster.
'I've decided.' He nods. 'I need to be sure there's really nothing he-'
Years of training and fighting experience allow him to react accordingly, moving his head just so in order for the glowing sphere of energy to miss his head.
Cheerfulness forgotten his face falls again into his customary cold and unforgiving expression and he slowly turns around to confront the attacker.
A slight twitch of his face is the only visual evidence of his surprise. He expected armed soldiers, spellcasters or monsters.
What he didn't expect is for his assailant to be a cluster of beings that look like little ten-year-old girls wearing colorful dresses with insect-like wings on their back.
"What manner of creatures are you? Some kind of Rakshasa?" They are probably native beings of Japan, but with their appearance alone he couldn't tell much. "And why did you attack me?"
In response they all chuckle malevolently before starting shooting spells again.
Karna simply sidesteps through the bullet-filled barrage, never allowing even one projectile to graze him. They are all weak and would shatter on his Magic Resistance, but he doesn't want to answer to the hostilities. After all the creatures could have a good reason for attacking him. Maybe they are the field's residents and view him as an intruder. So he will try to parley first.
That's it, until one wayward bullet misses him and instead darts toward a sunflower. The instant before it hits...
FIZZLE!
The bullet shatters, the magic weaved into its creation unraveled by the hand imposed between it and the frail flower.
The fairies stop their attack, confused by how their bullet was cancelled and how the strange man was here before them and then suddently was in another place.
Heedless of their confusion Karna raises his head and stares at them, eyes ablaze with a raging but cold fury. The fairies shiver at the sight.
"I don't care what happen to me, but striking at my comrades is an unforgivable sin."
As his aura expands, covering the entire field with killing intent so potent some of them drops dead from fear, the fairies realize for the first time they may have bitten more that they can chew.
"Prepare yourself." Karna finishes, reading himself.
[] Attack! Use:
-[] Your bow.
-[] Your spear.
-[] You should have a sword somewhere in your arsenal...
-[] Mantra!
-[]Astra! Too overkill.
-[] Just your fists will be enough.
[] Forgive them. Made sure they learned their lesson.
[] Write in.
Regardless of your previous decision, how will you move?
[] Stay on the ground.
[] Combination of Spirit and Real form to surprise them.
[] It's time to take your rightful place in the SKY.
[] Write in.
Also his current vantage point isn't the best: with how tall the sunflowers are it's possible there are buildings nearby he couldn't at the moment see and, most importantly, people outside of his perception range. His is nothing to scoff about but he hasn't the finesse of a proper spellcaster.
'I've decided.' He nods. 'I need to be sure there's really nothing he-'
[ Event Interrupt! ]
"!"Years of training and fighting experience allow him to react accordingly, moving his head just so in order for the glowing sphere of energy to miss his head.
Cheerfulness forgotten his face falls again into his customary cold and unforgiving expression and he slowly turns around to confront the attacker.
A slight twitch of his face is the only visual evidence of his surprise. He expected armed soldiers, spellcasters or monsters.
What he didn't expect is for his assailant to be a cluster of beings that look like little ten-year-old girls wearing colorful dresses with insect-like wings on their back.
"What manner of creatures are you? Some kind of Rakshasa?" They are probably native beings of Japan, but with their appearance alone he couldn't tell much. "And why did you attack me?"
In response they all chuckle malevolently before starting shooting spells again.
Karna simply sidesteps through the bullet-filled barrage, never allowing even one projectile to graze him. They are all weak and would shatter on his Magic Resistance, but he doesn't want to answer to the hostilities. After all the creatures could have a good reason for attacking him. Maybe they are the field's residents and view him as an intruder. So he will try to parley first.
That's it, until one wayward bullet misses him and instead darts toward a sunflower. The instant before it hits...
FIZZLE!
The bullet shatters, the magic weaved into its creation unraveled by the hand imposed between it and the frail flower.
The fairies stop their attack, confused by how their bullet was cancelled and how the strange man was here before them and then suddently was in another place.
Heedless of their confusion Karna raises his head and stares at them, eyes ablaze with a raging but cold fury. The fairies shiver at the sight.
"I don't care what happen to me, but striking at my comrades is an unforgivable sin."
As his aura expands, covering the entire field with killing intent so potent some of them drops dead from fear, the fairies realize for the first time they may have bitten more that they can chew.
"Prepare yourself." Karna finishes, reading himself.
[] Attack! Use:
-[] Your bow.
-[] Your spear.
-[] You should have a sword somewhere in your arsenal...
-[] Mantra!
-[]
-[] Just your fists will be enough.
[] Forgive them. Made sure they learned their lesson.
[] Write in.
Regardless of your previous decision, how will you move?
[] Stay on the ground.
[] Combination of Spirit and Real form to surprise them.
[] It's time to take your rightful place in the SKY.
[] Write in.
[x] Forgive them. Made sure they learned their lesson.
[x] It's time to take your rightful place in the SKY.
[x] It's time to take your rightful place in the SKY.
I feel overreaction. That said, am not even sure if Danmaku affects anything beyond duelists.
[x]Just your fists will be enough.
-[x]No reason to main or kill, but make sure they learned they lesson.
[x] It's time to take your rightful place in the SKY.
Those wings, probably.
Frankly, I want to see what Mantra and Astra do, but hey, they are probably first class combat Noble Phantasms. It would be... Too much for such ordinary case.
?
[x]Just your fists will be enough.
-[x]No reason to main or kill, but make sure they learned they lesson.
[x] It's time to take your rightful place in the SKY.
Those wings, probably.
Frankly, I want to see what Mantra and Astra do, but hey, they are probably first class combat Noble Phantasms. It would be... Too much for such ordinary case.
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There is a reason. From F/E CCC:Prospalz said:
He considers the sunflowers devoted to his Father. So the fairies trying to harm them is viewed as an attack against the Sun, His father.
For the Danmaku: he doesn't know that.
Er, let's not go overboard. If we can scold them into apologizing, great.
I mean hell, we could probably bounce their attacks back on them just by breathing out.
So, we impress upon them the seriousness of respecting the sun and those kin to it.
I mean hell, we could probably bounce their attacks back on them just by breathing out.
Well. I think that means that he is taking this seriously. But it doesn't necessarily mean we will be vicious or use overwhelming force, right?Alexander89 said:
So, we impress upon them the seriousness of respecting the sun and those kin to it.
Alexander89
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Of course: note how I put 'forgive them' as one of the option.Garlak said:
All I wanted to convey was how for Karna disrespecting the Sun and its kins is a very serious matter. He isn't going to kill just for it in this case.
Unless you vote for him to do so.