You do us a disservice. Malfean stealth is a prefectly valid approach!
Puella Magi Imperatrix Mundi, or: Wherein Half Of Japan Tries To Kill You
You do us a disservice. Malfean stealth is a prefectly valid approach!
Muramasa
Best Girl
I'm just bothered by how much we're imposing on Yumi because we can't find the time to hunt ourselves. We should be able to find time to hunt.
Hestia&theCourt
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Not if we're losing. Malfean stealth relies on the ability to reliably and efficiently stop anyone from reporting back; this might be feasible in another situation, but probably not in this one, if it does turn out to be a trap.
...also, "prefectly"?
somewhatLazy
Serial Procrastinator
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Alright, fixed it, I should have noticed the error...
Hestia&theCourt
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...what? We have seeds, from Momoko's stash and from spending evenings doing just what you proposed. We've got a lot of seeds. Not as many as we'd like, once we give Yumi's group their due, but enough for the moment. Yumi wouldn't be doing the hunting, just the delivery. Your concern doesn't really make sense to me.
I was referring to the part of Malfean stealth that involves indiscriminate explosions in order to blind and disorient everyone around you, not the one involving indiscriminate murder of everyone around you.
And typo.
PhDEevee
Mathematician and Questgiver
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Great update. I missed this. Oh Yui, you can't just casually flirt with girls like that, you have to mean it! *shakes head*
Is it a trap?
The offer could be genuine and still be a trap. Keep in mind that by going to meet this girl Yui will arguably be breaking the accord offered by 'leader-girl' (don't interfere in my business and I won't interfere in yours), which can then be used against her, to justify an attack or trying to force a concession from Yui. Even if leader-girl isn't involved in the offer, she could see it as an excellent opportunity to try to take Yui out.
My suggestion would be to take Minami along and for Yui to give her her Soul Gem, with orders to stay in stealth and record proceedings (just in case). It's a bit paranoid, but I think it'll be good practice for later? Of course, that'll make it harder to help out calligraphy girl.
Yumi's group and seeds
Keep in mind that Yumi stole the seeds we're going to be giving her old group, and then ran off. Even if they're on reasonably good terms now, it sends the wrong message, and is a reminder of that theft. Maybe Yumi can do it in the future, but right now is pretty bad.
It's also worth considering who's going to carry around Grief Seeds to people in the future, since they could become targets if that becomes known.
I missed this. Oh Yui, you can't just casually flirt with girls like that, you have to mean it! *shakes head*Is it a trap?
The offer could be genuine and still be a trap. Keep in mind that by going to meet this girl Yui will arguably be breaking the accord offered by 'leader-girl' (don't interfere in my business and I won't interfere in yours), which can then be used against her, to justify an attack or trying to force a concession from Yui. Even if leader-girl isn't involved in the offer, she could see it as an excellent opportunity to try to take Yui out.
My suggestion would be to take Minami along and for Yui to give her her Soul Gem, with orders to stay in stealth and record proceedings (just in case). It's a bit paranoid, but I think it'll be good practice for later? Of course, that'll make it harder to help out calligraphy girl.
Yumi's group and seeds
Keep in mind that Yumi stole the seeds we're going to be giving her old group, and then ran off. Even if they're on reasonably good terms now, it sends the wrong message, and is a reminder of that theft. Maybe Yumi can do it in the future, but right now is pretty bad.
It's also worth considering who's going to carry around Grief Seeds to people in the future, since they could become targets if that becomes known.
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SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
Well Yui, you did tell Chizuka that her attacking would hurt your feelings, treated her less suspiciously than you did her friends, specifically gave her instead of the group leader your phone number (on a heart shaped item), and then gave her a special brainmail as you were leaving.
So yes, Yui, it did look like you were flirting with her to an outside observer. And possibly to Chizuka and her group.
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I saw this on the internal ad system as a lurker, read it, found it awesome and signed up for an account. So yeah. I'm glad I found it during a non-hiatus period.
How many grief seeds do we have available exactly? Yui seems to hand them out like candy. Which is good, because hearts and minds but devoting the limited-ish time Yui has to hunting witches feels erugh. That is, only if we don't have a bunch. Which we probably do.
How feasible is it to get to Yumi's old group before school? Yui walks with Natsuki and tends to be almost late. Delegating to Yumi might be good, even if it'd be better in maintaining relations if Yui went. Maybe, one witch before bed, invite Yumi, hand off seeds and then I dunno, do homework while transformed for a speed boost? Or is that too much?
We could wait until after school and invite the group along to the meeting as possible back-up after handing them seeds maybe.
Also, on Maiko's book. It's good to know what we might be up against, but there are a few issues on the home front at the moment. Four candidates that we know nothing about. Figuring out calligraphy girl and being able to quickly deal with that over finding out about a situation that we may have explained to us by this meeting might be a way to go. Just so we don't spend another night searching aimlessly.
I'm really just throwing ideas around, I'm not super sure about anything.
How many grief seeds do we have available exactly? Yui seems to hand them out like candy. Which is good, because hearts and minds but devoting the limited-ish time Yui has to hunting witches feels erugh. That is, only if we don't have a bunch. Which we probably do.
How feasible is it to get to Yumi's old group before school? Yui walks with Natsuki and tends to be almost late. Delegating to Yumi might be good, even if it'd be better in maintaining relations if Yui went. Maybe, one witch before bed, invite Yumi, hand off seeds and then I dunno, do homework while transformed for a speed boost? Or is that too much?
We could wait until after school and invite the group along to the meeting as possible back-up after handing them seeds maybe.
Also, on Maiko's book. It's good to know what we might be up against, but there are a few issues on the home front at the moment. Four candidates that we know nothing about. Figuring out calligraphy girl and being able to quickly deal with that over finding out about a situation that we may have explained to us by this meeting might be a way to go. Just so we don't spend another night searching aimlessly.
I'm really just throwing ideas around, I'm not super sure about anything.
kinigget
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[X] Accept
-[X] Meet them after school tomorrow
[X] Head home, do homework, then go to bed
-[X] Ask Maiko to use her spookybook tonight to find info on...
--[X] The Nerima group
[X] Give Yumi's old team the seeds before going to school
close enough to my idea that I'm willing to go for it
-[X] Meet them after school tomorrow
[X] Head home, do homework, then go to bed
-[X] Ask Maiko to use her spookybook tonight to find info on...
--[X] The Nerima group
[X] Give Yumi's old team the seeds before going to school
close enough to my idea that I'm willing to go for it
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
I forget the exact amount but it's been established Yui can tear through Witches much faster than other magical girls when she dedicates a night to it and that the town is currently at an all time Witch high, to the point where Yumi didn't believe her when she stated the kind of returns she was getting.
This seems like a good plan.
[X] Accept
-[X] Meet them after school tomorrow
[X] Head home, do homework, then go to bed
-[X] Ask Maiko to use her spookybook tonight to find info on...
--[X] The Nerima group
[X] Give Yumi's old team the seeds before going to school (if not retconned, ideally it will be retconned)
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Hestia&theCourt
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...okay, I'll admit, this isn't something I had thought about.
[X] Accept
-[X] Meet them after school tomorrow
[X] Head home, do homework, then go to bed
-[X] Ask Maiko to use her spookybook tonight to find info on...
--[X] The Nerima group
[X] Give Yumi's old team the seeds before going to school
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Yeah, okay. Sweet.
This still bugs me though. I don't think we have this much time in the morning. Not without weirding out Natsuki. Can we do this after school and on the way to the meeting? Brainmail them for a meetup in the area around school? I'd just rather we save the wonderful time bomb that is Natsuki contracting.
Also, and I can't remember in which chapter this happened, have we seen Asami since she had that incident with the jerk at her hobby thing? That kinda seemed like "OH YEAH HEY THIS IS A THING THAT WOULD PUSH HER INTO CONTRACTING" kind of thing.
somewhatLazy
Serial Procrastinator
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I hadn't considered that. Where's the map again?
[X] Accept
-[X] Meet them after school tomorrow
[X] Head home, do homework, then go to bed
-[X] Ask Maiko to use her spookybook tonight to find info on...
--[X] The Nerima group
-[X] Brainmail Yumi's old team to meet you near school before it starts tomorrow so you can give them the seeds
[X] Go to school as usual and give the seeds to Yumi's old team
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Echo
Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
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Right at the border.
Well, Kyubey probably told her about Witches and stuff. Unless he didn't.
Note that Maiko's MP is currently high enough that she doesn't need to sleep tonight, so you could easily hunt a couple Witches and still have her do the research afterwards.
Here's a (possibly slightly out of date) list of Grief Seeds Yui has, though I think she's leaving them with Maiko for safekeeping:
Lorelei: 12,000
Erma: 2,900
Claire(2): 3,000
Katrina: 2,500
Wanda: 3,100
Monique: 2,800
Pauline: 2,700
Lisette: 2,400
Victoria: 2,300
Elodie: 2,100
Melanie: 1,800
Harriet(2): 3,000
Mimi: 2,700
Johanna: 2,200
Tarja: 1,800
There are also 20-ish other seeds from Momoko's stockpile, though Maiko probably has or will pass some of those off to Himari.
Yeah, arranging to do magical girl stuff before school isn't impossible, but it's always going to be awkward as long as Natsuki is being kept out of the loop.
On the other hand, keep in mind that Minami's wish did mitigate some of the issues surrounding Natsuki.
You have; you invited her to dinner at your house along with Natsuki and Maiko.
That said, if circumstances had been a bit different she could easily have decided to make a contract that afternoon.
This one?
Actually, serious question. Can anyone think of a good reason why it wouldn't have made sense to hand them the seeds when you met up at the cafe? If not, I'd be tempted to just retcon that on the basis of "if I'd remembered at the time I would have included it".
If I don't retcon it, though, yeah you kinda need to deliver the seeds yourself. Putting Yumi and Fuuka in the same room is asking for trouble, Maiko is still super top secret, and most of the neutral parties are in school when you are.
Hestia&theCourt
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...oh right, that is who those girls are.
No, I can think of no reason why we wouldn't have done so.
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I'm glad you know what's going on.
BY THE POWER OF RETCON.
Echo
Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
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Right, so I quickly re-read the post where you met Rio's group, here's a few bits from the lead-up and actual meeting:
Other than the fact that Maiko was asleep I don't see any reason why Yui wouldn't have handed over the seeds there; it would definitely have been an appropriate time, and Maiko would have already moved the main Grief Seed stockpile back to Momoko's house by that point, probably while Minami was around.
So yeah, I'm leaning toward retcon. If anyone objects to that, please speak up before the current voting period closes.
Muramasa
Best Girl
Will the entry be actively updated to accomodate the retcon? Or should we just consider it to have happened and move on?
redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
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- Canada
I object on the grounds that we're leaning towards a central administrative system and so they already have hypothetical access to our entire stockpile, meaning the only seeds they need are emergency seeds.
Muramasa
Best Girl
But we haven't integrated them into our core group yet. They don't have access to that stockpile.
somewhatLazy
Serial Procrastinator
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And in any case we promised them six seeds. They may not like it if we go all "You don't need the seeds since we've planning a central seed stockpile!" They might view it as us trying to make them join our group, and it would harm our relations with them.
Edit: It's probably better to have them slowly ease into our empire. We're friendly to them, we have perks, and we're well organized. That way they feel like they have a choice, and they chose us.
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redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
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I mean, they're pretty much a part of our team already? They agreed to stay in Yui's city under Yui's terms. Fuuku was salivating at our maps and charts. They've agreed to patrol where Yui directs them.
If they're not fully integrated yet, well it's only a matter of time. And I don't mean that in the 'muhaha soon the world will be ours' way. I mean that in the literal 'by friday they'll be just as involved in everything as Yumi is' way.
I don't want to retcon giving them the seeds, because I want a future scene where we go "oh yeah, we owe you seeds right? Come on down and check out our stache. Pick any 6 you like! Except that one, that one counts as 4."
If they're not fully integrated yet, well it's only a matter of time. And I don't mean that in the 'muhaha soon the world will be ours' way. I mean that in the literal 'by friday they'll be just as involved in everything as Yumi is' way.
I don't want to retcon giving them the seeds, because I want a future scene where we go "oh yeah, we owe you seeds right? Come on down and check out our stache. Pick any 6 you like! Except that one, that one counts as 4."
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
The author liked this comment, which amuses me.
So, going back to it for a moment: I know that magic indicates there are issues with Chizuka's relationship with her team, but I wonder if they're close enough to be ribbing her about her tiny terrifying suitor right now.