- Location
- U S of A
Right now your vote isn't counting because you're not using plan voting - can I suggest Plan Material Damage to you? It seems fairly close to what you were going for.
Petals of Carbon Steel -- You're a Pilot, Not an Ace. Try your best.
- Thread starter Gazetteer
- Start date
- Original Sci-Fi
- Location
- England
- Pronouns
- He/Him
How long do we have left?
Edit: I'll sit on it today and see if the wind changes.
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13th Bee
Worker
- Location
- Tennessee, USA.
Probably a couple days. Things could change, but I don't see that as being all that likely if the vote continues to be split. You can change your vote by either editing your original post or just making a new post with a new vote, as the tally only counts the newest vote from each user.
taovkool
Forever Gone
- Location
- The Library, Department of General Works
[X] Plan Scars Are Cool.
-[X] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[X] The Esther Strova isn't seriously damaged
-[X] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
Voting this because like fuck am I letting this asshole get away with it. Scratch the bastard's paintjob. Make it easier to kill for the next round of the fight, because you'd just know there'd be a next round.
-[X] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[X] The Esther Strova isn't seriously damaged
-[X] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
Voting this because like fuck am I letting this asshole get away with it. Scratch the bastard's paintjob. Make it easier to kill for the next round of the fight, because you'd just know there'd be a next round.
13th Bee
Worker
- Location
- Tennessee, USA.
Please vote instead for VagueZ's Plan Acquire Pirate Eyepatch. It's very similar, exchanging the Esther Strova escaping serious damage for the mecha being more salvageable. Currently the vote is split between my Plan Scars Are Cool and it, meaning a third plan is in the lead instead that differs much more from them.
- Location
- Newer England
Vote tally shows us as only 2 votes behind, equal to Eyepatch, so I'd still give it a shot. If it comes down to it though, I'd prefer Material to Eyepatch. Carrier > Limbs > Mecha Limbs
Also, I didn't actually get an alert ping for that tag. Not sure what's up with that.
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- U S of A
FYI, you're missing a bracket on [X] Plan Material Damage, so the vote tally algorithm isn't counting your vote
- Location
- USA
[X] Plan Scars Are Cool.
-[X] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[X] The Esther Strova isn't seriously damaged
-[X] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
Some things I would like to point out. Back in Petals of Titanium, as much as we allowed the Rose to get beat to hell and back, Saturn was still a real formidable population center with plenty of repair facilities. While the time between horrific battle damage could sometimes be quite extended, there was never any doubt that the Rose would eventually be repaired(if she survived). Here in the orbit of Jupiter in a ragtag resistance group that has not even begun a proper conventional conflict, it is deeply questionable if it is actually possible to fully repair the damage to Esther Strova. There may be some small hidden rinky dink facilities on a moon somewhere but those are probably having a bad enough time as is. I guess repairs could be done in civilian yards but then that would draw the question of what the hell have you been up to to receive this kind of damage?
I think it's too risky to allow the Esther Strova to be abused the way we could with the Rose. Also as a general rule, experienced pilots are always going to be much harder to come across than Mecha I feel. Look at how wide of a net the resistance had to cast out to get this bunch of misfits. Every single pilot loss will be felt harshly for the resistance. Zhihao and Sails are dead for sure, but Sunny and Azara could still be kicking. Frankly if Princess does end up dying as a result of this, I would stomach it for the resistance as a whole if it were her for two even without taking into account what damage this guy is going to pull off in the next few minutes.
I personally would prefer to not get maimed/killed rather than damaging this prototype but it also has merits. It's safe to assume that the thing is a highly tuned up thing from the "it took 4 weeks to wipe your brain waves off this thing" and it seems there are plans to begin deploying them in real numbers soonish judging from the opening quote. If this one is the OG model that the builders around here are going to have to work with to get shit done, giving it a tough knock may be worthwhile.
-[X] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[X] The Esther Strova isn't seriously damaged
-[X] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
Some things I would like to point out. Back in Petals of Titanium, as much as we allowed the Rose to get beat to hell and back, Saturn was still a real formidable population center with plenty of repair facilities. While the time between horrific battle damage could sometimes be quite extended, there was never any doubt that the Rose would eventually be repaired(if she survived). Here in the orbit of Jupiter in a ragtag resistance group that has not even begun a proper conventional conflict, it is deeply questionable if it is actually possible to fully repair the damage to Esther Strova. There may be some small hidden rinky dink facilities on a moon somewhere but those are probably having a bad enough time as is. I guess repairs could be done in civilian yards but then that would draw the question of what the hell have you been up to to receive this kind of damage?
I think it's too risky to allow the Esther Strova to be abused the way we could with the Rose. Also as a general rule, experienced pilots are always going to be much harder to come across than Mecha I feel. Look at how wide of a net the resistance had to cast out to get this bunch of misfits. Every single pilot loss will be felt harshly for the resistance. Zhihao and Sails are dead for sure, but Sunny and Azara could still be kicking. Frankly if Princess does end up dying as a result of this, I would stomach it for the resistance as a whole if it were her for two even without taking into account what damage this guy is going to pull off in the next few minutes.
I personally would prefer to not get maimed/killed rather than damaging this prototype but it also has merits. It's safe to assume that the thing is a highly tuned up thing from the "it took 4 weeks to wipe your brain waves off this thing" and it seems there are plans to begin deploying them in real numbers soonish judging from the opening quote. If this one is the OG model that the builders around here are going to have to work with to get shit done, giving it a tough knock may be worthwhile.
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[] Plan 'tis but a fleshwound!
-[] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[] The Esther Strova isn't seriously damaged
-[] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
This is a big horror-reveal, hitting us when we are still getting the hang of things, and we are isolated. Burning a chance here makes sense to me. I don't want to lose our protagonist, but with the enemy mecha's capacity reduced and Esther in one piece, we should have the best of recovery and healing facilities we can get, I am hoping this reflects our odds of injury in favour of death, but meh, the protagonist hasn't gotten a chance to warm up to me that much yet.
And conserving experienced pilots, even mooks, is pretty much the most important thing.
[x] Plan Scars Are Cool.
-[x] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[x] The Esther Strova isn't seriously damaged
-[x] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
And so help me, this is what I want to vote for, if you come down here telling mot to split the vote, I will go straight to my own name for the exact same thing. While laughing maniacally!
[] Plan name
-[] First selection
-[] Additional skelection...
The advantage of plan voting is that people are voting for a more cohesive vision. If people want one thing, but only on the condition of something else, then they don't want to vote for the one thing without the somethign else. Without plan voting, they would be voting for each thing individually, and would be supporting all the things individually, even if they would oppose them in some combinations.
-[] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[] The Esther Strova isn't seriously damaged
-[] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
This is a big horror-reveal, hitting us when we are still getting the hang of things, and we are isolated. Burning a chance here makes sense to me. I don't want to lose our protagonist, but with the enemy mecha's capacity reduced and Esther in one piece, we should have the best of recovery and healing facilities we can get, I am hoping this reflects our odds of injury in favour of death, but meh, the protagonist hasn't gotten a chance to warm up to me that much yet.
And conserving experienced pilots, even mooks, is pretty much the most important thing.
Oh, fine then...
[x] Plan Scars Are Cool.
-[x] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[x] The Esther Strova isn't seriously damaged
-[x] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
And so help me, this is what I want to vote for, if you come down here telling mot to split the vote, I will go straight to my own name for the exact same thing. While laughing maniacally!
I believe that your vote will not count on account of not being in plan-vote formate, which is:
[] Plan name
-[] First selection
-[] Additional skelection...
The advantage of plan voting is that people are voting for a more cohesive vision. If people want one thing, but only on the condition of something else, then they don't want to vote for the one thing without the somethign else. Without plan voting, they would be voting for each thing individually, and would be supporting all the things individually, even if they would oppose them in some combinations.
I feel that it is still moderately early in the voting, people can change later. Also, it is your own view that these plans are similar, different people have different priorities that lead to different elements being differing levels of equatability. For me, having intact medical and evacuation facilities is a rather important element.
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- Location
- Earth
[x] Plan Material Damage
-[X] You are not seriously injured or killed
-[X] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[X] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
My opinion on the Esther Strova is that it's a nice heavily modified transport, but it's evidently not up for the tasks that are going to be thrown at it. If it gets blown up, we're a pirate, just capture something workable and move on with our lives. My opinion on our equipment is in a similar boat -- it's nice to have stuff we're familiar with, but we need pilots we can trust more than we need ancient mecha like the Lancers or things running beta operating systems like our own Pennant. We chose space pirate as a back story, and in time of need I'm all for stealing better equipment from a better equipped enemy. To do that, we absolutely need living, trustworthy companions and to have a living and largely capable protagonist.
I think we should be prioritizing trustworthy people over workable equipment at this specific juncture. The equipment was ragtag to begin with, we just need to maintain enough of a fighting force to be able to rebuild it over time. And in truth, that's not terribly much. Worst comes to worst on that end, take a limping transport to some modestly defensible station with a small tactical squad, some specialized equipment (EMP, military grade ECM systems, whatever seems appropriate at the time) and just hijack/commandeer/requisition something better, preferably from an opposing force with minimal war crimes committed along the way. I think we have options for equipment replacement that we could never assume for companions.
-[X] You are not seriously injured or killed
-[X] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[X] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
My opinion on the Esther Strova is that it's a nice heavily modified transport, but it's evidently not up for the tasks that are going to be thrown at it. If it gets blown up, we're a pirate, just capture something workable and move on with our lives. My opinion on our equipment is in a similar boat -- it's nice to have stuff we're familiar with, but we need pilots we can trust more than we need ancient mecha like the Lancers or things running beta operating systems like our own Pennant. We chose space pirate as a back story, and in time of need I'm all for stealing better equipment from a better equipped enemy. To do that, we absolutely need living, trustworthy companions and to have a living and largely capable protagonist.
I think we should be prioritizing trustworthy people over workable equipment at this specific juncture. The equipment was ragtag to begin with, we just need to maintain enough of a fighting force to be able to rebuild it over time. And in truth, that's not terribly much. Worst comes to worst on that end, take a limping transport to some modestly defensible station with a small tactical squad, some specialized equipment (EMP, military grade ECM systems, whatever seems appropriate at the time) and just hijack/commandeer/requisition something better, preferably from an opposing force with minimal war crimes committed along the way. I think we have options for equipment replacement that we could never assume for companions.
- Location
- Aotearoa
All Hard Choices, all the time.
I'd possibly prefer to save the ship, but maybe the 'steal something better' argument has merit.
And my goodness, count me completely out of opting in to body horror in the first battle.
[x] Plan Material Damage
-[X] You are not seriously injured or killed
-[X] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[X] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
I'd possibly prefer to save the ship, but maybe the 'steal something better' argument has merit.
And my goodness, count me completely out of opting in to body horror in the first battle.
[x] Plan Material Damage
-[X] You are not seriously injured or killed
-[X] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[X] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
- Location
- Present
Yeah, a lot of people are awefully eager to get rid of one of our limited, extremely hard to replace, escape tokens.
There's barely any discussion about it too.
Is there really that big a consensus for spending such a limited resource, or did people miss the fact that they'd be spending a token because it's not explicitedly noted in the action?
[X] Plan Scarred and Maimed
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I think people are aware, but there are a lot of bad choices in this update that could hurt us for many updates to come, so people are eager to mitigate that.
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- madison
[X] Plan Scarred and Maimed
Because starting a quest by killing the protagonist and making a new one would be hilarious.
Because starting a quest by killing the protagonist and making a new one would be hilarious.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
I resent the implication, I expect that mere decapitation will not stop the sheer undiluted shonen of Princess God. They can rebuild us.
- Location
- Internet
X] Plan Material Damage
-[X] You are not seriously injured or killed
-[X] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[X] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed
-[X] You are not seriously injured or killed
-[X] You don't lose as many people as you'd feared
-[X] The enemy mecha doesn't escape unscathed