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Here's something I've been toying with for a while, and with Halo 4's...
Here's something I've been toying with for a while, and with Halo 4's...
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Well, the augmentations he received are real.namar13766 said:So, everything John-117 experienced, the kidnapping, the training, the (crippling) augmentations, Halo, Flood, etc. was a computer simulation?
Noticed that, did you?Tavi said:Oh fuck me. I just realised. Cortana is the one person left that John trusts absolutely and she's been manipulating him the whole time. This is going to redefine bad whenever he finds out. Jeez Cyclone, the fic's barely started and I'm already calculating minimum safe distance.
If John-117 never found out, then what would make this story any different from the usual "FUD hopped dimensions" story?Quickshot0 said:Maybe it will never come out that Cortana deceived him? And perhaps the AI will just switch allegiances as required to keep humanity and if need be the Council races alive. If played well it would never need to come out that their previous history was a lie.
That is a very good question.Auks said:A question- does the Shadow Broker know the truth? His files demonstrated a pretty thorough penetration of Cerberus operations, and he might be interested in using the information in an attempt to sway John into his camp, or to simply turn him against Cerberus.
There was a block preventing her from fully answering that question.Auks said:Also interested in if/how Shepard suborned EDI. Personally would be amused if EDI, after being taught to defend humanities interests concluded that Cerberus was a threat to humanity. A pattern matching error, if you will.
On the other hand, like Lazarus, the objective was accomplished with flying colors. They wanted a superhuman super soldier who's willing to do anything for humanity, and they got him.Image said:John is smart enough to realize something is wrong, and it's Cerberus all of their experiments turn out bad for them and the universe at large. The fallout from this, it's going to be Biblical.
I guess the difference would be in everything that happens around him. Though that would likely risk trending towards occasional hilariousness as plots swirl around him but manage to just not tip him off.Cyclone said:If John-117 never found out, then what would make this story any different from the usual "FUD hopped dimensions" story?
In ME1, yes, but in ME2 and ME3, the Sentinel became the tank, thanks to Tech Armor.Stormseed said:The Sentinel always seemed like the primary support class to me.
*is confused* Where did I have anyone but Cortana refer to him as John? Heck, when did I even have Cortana refer to him as John?A Puzzled Mind said:I commend you on your effort. Will ya be writing some more?
However, in regards to the story,you've got to remember that only Cortana is the only one to call John by his actual name. Everyone else knows him only as Chief, or SpartAn, or his call sign, Sierra-117.I would hate to see everyone in ME just casually addressing master chief as John, it's OoC. They adon't have that knowledge nor the history of affection with John as Cortana does.
That is a possibility I had considered. Then I remembered the situation with Cortana.Legrio said:Actually, MC might not go nuclear when he finds out everything he experienced was just a simulation. No, wait, hear me out!
Consider if you will, that everything the MC has experienced, the brainwashing as a child, etc, has been conditioning to make him accept that anything is acceptable if it will alllow humanity to survive. Framed in the right context, his artificial experiences would definately qualify if they make him the soldier that humanity needs. It might even make him happier, since none of those horrible wars with billions of humans dying never happened!
I actually generally prefer Infiltrator myself, but I already made the determination that, for this 'fic, Shepard should be biotic, which takes Infiltrator off the table.Night_stalker said:Its a bit late for me to inject my advice with regards to Shep, but try Colonist/Sole Survivor Infiltrator.
Colonist gives him extra motivation to go Collector hunting, Sole Survivor justifies his flight from Cerberus, and Infiltrator, well, I have a bias towards them, so sue me.
Cortana and the Chief are smart, yes, but they're not engineers.Serran said:On a different topic: What is going to happen with Halo tech?
All Spartans are genius, and with the addition of Cortana (and in the Chiefs mind the Forward unto Dawn) there should be nothing stopping them from introducing Non Ezero artificial gravity, slipspace drive and energy shielding. Not to mention the Spartan laser and Convenant weapons.
First, it was all a simulation. Remember, even as a kid, before getting kidnapped for the SPARTAN-II program, the Chief would have known about the UNSC and been familiar with the commonly technology of the time. And, you know, the year.wellis said:What about his life experience, did Cerberus kidnap him at a young age, or was he always an adult and the simulation was used to make him think he'd been kidnapped at a young age?
Regarding the Mass Effect MJOLNIR armor, does it have any advantages over the normal power armor that all Mass Effect soldiers wear? The MJOLNIR armor in Halo was an impressive thing, but since this is actually a Mass Effect fic, with all the Halo stuff being a simulation, things like shields here will only protect against kinetic weapons, while particle weapons can slip through. Also I doubt the actual Mass Effect version will have as huge a strength increase as the original.
Pretty much.Legrio said:I'm thinking... heavily modified accelerated growth clone with many dead brothers who didn't survive the modification process.
I'm not going to get into ME2's rather poorly-designed upgrade system, but yes.wellis said:Considering the Chief's augmentations are from Cerberus, are Shepard's own cybernetics similar, and will both the Chief and Shepard be able to use/receive the cybernetic upgrades you get in Mass Effect 2, like the Heavy Bone Weave, Heavy Muscle Weave, and Heavy Skin Weave?
That does have potential.wellis said:Regarding the psychological profile, will you just stick to one or will it be a blending such as War Hero/Ruthless or any other combination? Some stories do a blending regarding the psych profile, and the Sole Survivor and Ruthless profiles take place 1 year and 2 years respectively after the War Hero profile.
He believes they have the rear end of the FUD, not the whole thing. They could, in theory, get some alloy, firearms, and vehicles out of it. The slipstream drive and possibly even the artificial gravity can be rationalized as being performed by something in the bow of the FUD, which is gone, and even if not, slipstream could be explained not to work in this universe, and the artificial gravity appears to be something that's terribly huge and inefficient compared to eezo-based artificial gravity, as we don't see it in anything smaller than a frigate, IIRC. Also, don't forget that anything Cortana did -- for this story -- wouldn't count unless the Chief witnessed directly, as it was all part of the sham. Also, don't forget that the Halo tech isn't real in the context of this story. As for his MJOLNIR's shields, don't forget that he would see no difference between what he believes it can do and kinetic barriers of comparable strength until DEWs come into play.Serran said:That is either a clever way of saying "Not telling you" or something of an oversight. As far as the Chief knows Cerberus has the Dawn's wreck, giving them a reasonable good look at most of UNSC tech that the ME races would drool over. Not to mention that he is wearing the Armor with the alienshieldtechnology. Cortana knows enough about physics to upgrade the Convenant Slipstream enginge significantly and I think it is mentioned in EU that she learned the entire Human knowledgebase in 2 hours.
Even if that is not so, the Chief should know enough to get proof of concept devices out there. It is an advantage that Cerberus would definitively want.
VhenRa said:So he builds one according to what he "knows" and it fails to work. They then tell him that its something with physics not working exactly the same. As long as you are the only source of knowledge that he trusts, you can feed him a line of bullshit and he would never know.
Tavi said:Serran, none of that tech has ever existed. TIM might make noises about attempting to reverse engineer (read; invent for real) the stuff, but realistically very little of it is going to appear as it isn't possible to accomplish with ME science, which is the only science available. Remember - everything the Chief thinks he remembers is a lie!
Yes. Very much yes.prometheus110 said:Why should he know anything about those devices? He didn't design them, he didn't build them, he doesn't repair them and for the non-eezo based technologies (I.E all of them) it's likely that the theory doesn't work in ME seeing as how his entire life has been an artificial construct and they don't need to obey the laws of physics.
You sure that's a sniper rifle?Nuklear said:I seeing as in the cut scene with him I can only see a pistol and a sniper rife on him I would go with infiltrator
I wouldn't do that. Added some dialogue that should hopefully clarify.namar13766 said:
Please remember, everything about Cortana is a lie. That's sort of the point of this story.Legrio said:Well, I suppose you could reconcile the fact that Cortana in canon is a super-genius who redesigned the Pillar of Autumn and did a bunch of insane engineering feats as well as having utterly ridiculous amounts info on file as her abilities just being exaggerated for the simulation, but it still just bugs me. Other than that, good fic so far.
Right.Ultra Sonic 007 said:...so lemme get this straight.
All of the events of the Halo series - as experienced by Master Chief - were simulated by Cerberus, via the AI Cortana.
Right?
Thanks.Ultra Sonic 007 said:
Not sure how you got the idea that some of the events actually occurred, but I'll be sure to keep that in mind.Ultra Sonic 007 said:Two: if this holds, you might want to elaborate on it a bit more so that people aren't under the misconception that at least some of the events of Halo actually occurred. Or maybe I'm just a little thick-headed.
Indeed.Vianca said:Well, I can see one thing Shepard will try to get rid off.
Yes, a certain quantum thingy, unless EDI uses it to hack Cerebus.
Yeah, given that those two were hired directly by Cerberus, they're probably going with the Chief.Vianca said:
Yep.Vianca said:
Indeed.Vianca said:Shame the engineerings couple ain´t onboard during the theft, though that does help you with the Chief his crew.
One is a number.Vianca said:
I'm curious why you brought up Jack and Miranda specifically.Vianca said:Shepards main problem is that he (probably) doesn´t have the targeted squad members list, so it´s stumbeling across them on the way. That means that Shepard needs something to off-set Jack and Miranda.
No.Vianca said:
He's a bit busy.Vianca said:
Still undecided on everything.Vianca said:I´m pretty sure the Chief will take-off with Grunt, Samara can probably be winged by going to Ilium to visit Liara, Omega is pretty clear unless both parties dock at the same time.
Oh, okay. All I could see when I pulled it up on Youtube was the stock, so I couldn't tell.Nuklear said:I'm pretty sure, rewatched the cutscene several times and even started up my copy of the first game and compared the sniper rifle on my char to it and it looks like a sniper rifle to me
Well, they're both going to Freedom's Progress right now, so...Doornag said:Oh my Gods this looks promising. I don't think I've seen anyone make a crossover with this concept in quite a while (closest thing I can think of is that one HP/Dresden Files cross). How soon do you plan to have Shepard and the Chief meet?
She was the Pillar's AI...Stormseed said:I wouldn't be surprised at all if Cortana operates the Chief's ship, like EDI.
Well, to be fair, one the main reasons I came up with this idea to begin with was to make a Halo/ME crossover that would avoid pointless calc wars.LordsFire said:I'm interested enough to keep tracking this. You've not already turned it into wretched fanwank, so it's already about a million steps up from most ME/Halo Crossovers. We'll see where it goes from here.