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Peasant Quest [Dynasty Warriors]

Also as to the Ao vote... exactly what are you expecting 'one unarmed/unarmored dude on the far side of a wall observed as way too heavy for one person to move' to be able to do, here?

If we want to get in without a siege attempt, continuing to try and talk our way in is far more likely to work than pushing a lone, underequipped and clearly unmotivated dude to try and force the issue.

Hard to de-escalate back down to talking after things get physical, and all.
 
Daniel14541 said:
Dang it Bob! I'm trying to get my bloodknight mindset set up over here! Now your making me feel guilty! Your undermining the whole thing! :p
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In no particular order:
  • PC isn't a knight, knightly or honorbound in the slightest.
  • PC isn't courageous, valiant or otherwise able to be the iconic warrior.
  • PC doesn't like even seeing too much blood, let alone actively condemning others to shed it.
  • PC doesn't like killing or war and would much rather plow his field (and his wife no doubt)
  • PC's cohorts are all genre savvy and not blind to the violent methods of those around them, and a blood knight persona is not something they'd tolerate out of anything but a general they can't do anything about.
  • PC's learned from Pang that standing out is a no no - and a blood knight behavioral template is exactly the kind of thing that stands out on a peasant.
I could go on, but the point was more 'please don't forget we're a scared, desperate, genre savvy dirty weakling peasant', which seems to be a reminder that has to be offered more than a few times in this quest.

It's almost like SV's questers are used to having a 'power level' appropriate for warrior heroes of yore!
 
Bob's Beard said:
In no particular order:
  • PC isn't a knight, knightly or honorbound in the slightest.
  • PC isn't courageous, valiant or otherwise able to be the iconic warrior.
  • PC doesn't like even seeing too much blood, let alone actively condemning others to shed it.
  • PC doesn't like killing or war and would much rather plow his field (and his wife no doubt)
  • PC's cohorts are all genre savvy and not blind to the violent methods of those around them, and a blood knight persona is not something they'd tolerate out of anything but a general they can't do anything about.
  • PC's learned from Pang that standing out is a no no - and a blood knight behavioral template is exactly the kind of thing that stands out on a peasant.
I could go on, but the point was more 'please don't forget we're a scared, desperate, genre savvy dirty weakling peasant', which seems to be a reminder that has to be offered more than a few times in this quest.

It's almost like SV's questers are used to having a 'power level' appropriate for warrior heroes of yore!
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I'm not entering that mindset for this game. Its for something else I'm working on.
 
[X] Siege was working pretty well last time, until Yan Zheng showed up. Settle down for a siege yourselves. These unarmed peasants are clearly dangerous men, and they need someone to keep an eye on them.
 
[X] You could actually send Fan to bring back reinforcements from camp. Get him out of your hair for a while.

We need a better bargaining position!
 
[X] Siege was working pretty well last time, until Yan Zheng showed up. Settle down for a siege yourselves. These unarmed peasants are clearly dangerous men, and they need someone to keep an eye on them.
 
[X] Siege was working pretty well last time, until Yan Zheng showed up. Settle down for a siege yourselves. These unarmed peasants are clearly dangerous men, and they need someone to keep an eye on them.
 
[X] Siege was working pretty well last time, until Yan Zheng showed up. Settle down for a siege yourselves. These unarmed peasants are clearly dangerous men, and they need someone to keep an eye on them.
 
[X] Siege was working pretty well last time, until Yan Zheng showed up. Settle down for a siege yourselves. These unarmed peasants are clearly dangerous men, and they need someone to keep an eye on them.
 
veekie said:
[X] Bluff, "He's not the only one of us in there. Open up or you'll find out how many are in your village!"
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Ten bucks says Ao mucks that up like he just now mucked up his behind-the-gate status, by not cottoning on that it's a bluff fast enough.

"What, I didn't see anyone else from the group in here... I mean, uh, yes, watch out! There's like, a hundred of us in here!"

Toooooootally believable, that.
 
[X] Siege was working pretty well last time, until Yan Zheng showed up. Settle down for a siege yourselves. These unarmed peasants are clearly dangerous men, and they need someone to keep an eye on them.
 
[X] Siege was working pretty well last time, until Yan Zheng showed up. Settle down for a siege yourselves. These unarmed peasants are clearly dangerous men, and they need someone to keep an eye on them.
 
[X] Siege was working pretty well last time, until Yan Zheng showed up. Settle down for a siege yourselves. These unarmed peasants are clearly dangerous men, and they need someone to keep an eye on them.

We dont have to take the village we just need to look like we are trying.
 
I'm not sure we could justify this siege as easily as we could the other 'fortress' .

This place has little strategic value in the present, even if we did have it. The fact that the general decided to more or less ignore it instead of beating down the gates and using the place for himself tells me that.
I mean it probably has some wealth in supplies, but we don't seem short enough on that.
 
Daniel14541 said:
Time to get those gates open and get that town captured. Thats going to take time of course. But once its taken we will have to garrison it. Then they will be able to point those arbalests elsewhere and improve the camps security! See! We are being useful! Strategically and tactically even!
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Bob's Beard said:
I say this, because it's important to have at least semi-grounded expectations of what kind of results one could expect - and sadly, 'meritorous efforts' don't seem in the bag, unless 'helped burn down a fort that didn't matter' is enough to count on it's own.

Still, surviving is the best reward of all so we're still doing fine.
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Ah, the sweet spot between 'doing things that are of value' and 'staying away from magical death.' PC wants to land there so, so much.
You know, those of us that aren't named Lin.
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Poor kid didn't even have a character model.

Surely nothing important will come of his death.
 
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bdun140 said:
Someone enlighten the Non- Dynasty Warriors guy. Am I supposed to recognize this? The model suggests no but the comment suggests yes...
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Well, if you do a reverse image search - or even check out the image location data - it is a picture of a peasant warrior, just as one would expect.

The only thing potentially 'off' about it is that this is a peasant warrior from Samurai Warriors, not Dynasty Warriors.

So I suppose Lin could have had some japanese blood in his origins - though given the historical time period I'm not sure that what we in the modern world think of as 'The Japanese' even exist yet. Isn't the ~200 AD period before the settlers effectively took Japan from the native Ainu and the rest?
 
[X] Siege was working pretty well last time, until Yan Zheng showed up. Settle down for a siege yourselves. These unarmed peasants are clearly dangerous men, and they need someone to keep an eye on them.
 
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