That's totally fair. You definitely don't need to go with a 2k motherboard unless you want to get into competitive overclocking… but at the same time I'd highly recommend not going for a budget 60-90 dollar board - most of the mid-end boards around ~150-250 are probably where you should be looking with either ryzen 7 or 9.
 
AFAIK even a lot of A320 Boards can handle a 5950X.

The best I think I may be able to purchase is maybe a 5900X and it looks like the the 5950x has only a minor performance advantage.
User Benchmark gives 1% while PC Benchmark gives 14%. What I will be looking for is what are good break points vs cost & performance.
 
The best I think I may be able to purchase is maybe a 5900X and it looks like the the 5950x has only a minor performance advantage.
User Benchmark gives 1% while PC Benchmark gives 14%. What I will be looking for is what are good break points vs cost & performance.

Unless you're doing serious multi-threaded workloads there's no need for 16 cores. An argument can be made for 5900X and leaving four cores for your OS/random programs and 8 for the next generation of console ports.

A 5800x will be just fine though if you don't have any use cases that are heavily threaded and going for 32GB of good 3600Mz ram would do you more good then.
 
If it's for gaming… wait for the 7000 series, ir if you really want to buy now-now, 5800x3d for AMD IMO. but really, wait for 7000.
 
Unless you're doing serious multi-threaded workloads there's no need for 16 cores.
Moreover, the number of cores needs to be proportional to memory. There aren't a lot of workloads that can run on half a gigabyte per hyperthread, so 16GB is unlikely to be enough.

Memory bandwidth would also be an issue though.
 
Ryzen 7 5800x, is the stock cooler good enough for most uses?
I have a tower cooler made by Coolmaster for my FX-8350.
 
Yes, the stock cooler is fine. It's not winning any awards but it's not gonna melt your cou like Intel's would.

I found an open box deal on a Ryzen 7 5800x, an Asus B550M-A board, and 32 GB of Corsair DDR4 ram.
Saved about $150 compared to buying new when I priced the parts and I need to be careful budget wise.
Even if not a perfect build, I am upgrading from an FX-8350, so should give a sizeable performance upgrade.

Wrote to the seller and looks like it is an Amazon return and tested.
As well, eBay does make sure that sellers accept back defective merchandise.
Looks like the Ryzen 7 5800x does NOT come with a stock cooler.
Checked with the seller as well and stated that it does not have a cooler with it.

So I will need a cooler when I put it together?
The seller recommended DEEP COOL GAMMAXX400V2
I think this is these are the AMD coolers, the AMD Wraith Stealth Socket AM4 and the TT Racing AMD Wraith Spire Socket AM4
Edit, found a discussion which recommends Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Air Cooler. Looks like it has a higher wattage than the cheaper ones. Also has two cooling fans vs one.
Edit-2, this one seems to be a bit higher budget but may (or may not) be a better choice. Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B CPU Air Cooler

Are these decent choices and any alternative suggestions? Needs to be budget choice, not anything too expensive.
 
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Looks like the Ryzen 7 5800x does NOT come with a stock cooler.

So I will need a cooler when I put it together?

1. You absolutely will need a cooler of some kind. DO NOT POWER ON A SYSTEM WITHOUT A PROPERLY INSTALLED CPU COOLER. Most probably the system will refuse to start, or will shutdown in a few seconds as the thermal protections trip, but if unlucky it may still cause permanent damage.

2. A 5800X is of the more power-efficient end of CPUs for its given number of cores, of around 100-110W under high load. This is nothing compared to high end Intel products; a 12700K for example can draw in excess of 220W.
So if your case has any proper airflow at all (because the case airflow will determine the surroundings of the CPU and GPU coolers), you can avoid thermal throttling (the CPU automatically reducing capability and power draw as it is nearing maximum temperatures) with practically any aftermarket air cooler. Something like the Deep Cool you mentioned will be more than sufficient. Although I would personally avoid the AMD Wraith options: They're sufficient, but since they're made to be cheap they're little else, and can be quite loud given their small fans.
Since you will need to buy a separate cooler anyway, invest 10-30 dollars more to get a larger and quieter air cooler (since the more excess capacity it has, the less work the fan will need to do to maintain a steady temperature under load).

A double-fan solution is mostly overkill, and something like the Scythe Fuma 2 will give you benefit only if you plan to go for an ultra-quiet build in all respects (and even then, maybe consider AIO Watercooling solutions if available at similar price-point), or plan to do competitive levels of overclocking on your CPU. That beast is necessary only for high-end Intel products.
Look for a tower cooler with ~4 heatpipes, and one well-sized fan (typically 120-140mm). That will be sufficient. Anything above is extra which can be nice to have, but will not impact performance.
 
I am serious considering the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120. Kind of mid range for price but having a little overkill is nice.
I am planning to reusing my case because it still have bays for optical drives. Older Coolermaster.
Do have 5 case fans still. One side, two top, one back, and front.
Two build items in the future will need to get an M.2 to replace the boot ssd and likely going to have to wait a year for a new video card. Running a GTX 980.
 
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Okay, so I'm planning a new PC build since my current one is old enough that I can't really upgrade anything without needing a new PSU or CPU, so here's a tentative build based on what I've seen in the thread, but it's incomplete and I would like some help in finishing it.
  • CPU: Ryzen 5 5600x ---- Coming from a 1600x
  • CPU Cooler: ???
  • Motherboard: ???
  • (RAM: planning on taking 2x8 GB DDR4-3200 for current build)
  • (Storage: Reusing 256 GB SSD for OS drive)
  • Storage: 2 TB Cruical P2 M.2-2280 NVME for game drive
  • (Storage: Reusing 1 TB SSD for storage)
  • GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB VENTUS 2X OC --- Coming from a 980
  • Case: Fractal Design Torrent Nano Mini ITX Case
  • PSU: Cosair SF750 750E W 80+ Platinum Fully Modular SFX Power Supply
So yeah, that's what I got so far. Getting a SFX power supply since while you can fit a fully size one in the Torrent Nano, it's not recommended for cable management. But I'm lost on what I should get for the motherboard, besides that it needs a lot of USB slots on the back, but not USB-C and WIFI is unnecessary cause I have a wired connection. A dual-radiator CPU cooler like the Scythe Fuma 2 would be complete overkill and I don't want one that'll be too big and be awkward to work around. I like the Torrent Nano because it's so clearly an air cooling case since it has a giant 180mm fan in the front and I like the design. Do I need more RAM? Should I get the 5700x instead?
 
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@Protodermis Coming from a 1600X? I think You can swap that out for a 5700X for your current PC and if your PSU is still decent put in a firesale card (probably get *cheaper* next month to clear stock for RTX 40 series) and throw in a nVME SSD and be good to go?
 
@Protodermis Coming from a 1600X? I think You can swap that out for a 5700X for your current PC and if your PSU is still decent put in a firesale card (probably get *cheaper* next month to clear stock for RTX 40 series) and throw in a nVME SSD and be good to go?
I mean, a big problem with my current motherboard is that the nVME slot is right under the graphics card, which is an outright nightmare to remove with how large my current CPU cooler is, which I why I regret buying it and want a smaller one for my new build.
 
I mean, a big problem with my current motherboard is that the nVME slot is right under the graphics card, which is an outright nightmare to remove with how large my current CPU cooler is, which I why I regret buying it and want a smaller one for my new build.

I went ahead and bought a 1 TB NVMe so as to simplify things myself. I got a WD Green. Should do me fine for a while even if greens are a little slower than the blue. Still seems to bench faster than a conventional SSD. Went with the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 in the end as well. I am still using a GTX 980 but will have to wait for prices to go down.

Got everything together tbw
 
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I went ahead and bought a 1 TB NVMe so as to simplify things myself. I got a WD Green. Should do me fine for a while even if greens are a little slower than the blue. Still seems to bench faster than a conventional SSD. Went with the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 in the end as well. I am still using a GTX 980 but will have to wait for prices to go down.

Got everything together tbw
Well yeah, getting an NVMe for my game drive is the plan. I'm just worrying about getting a motherboard with good NVMe slot placement, a good amount of rear USB slots, and a good BIOS that can handle the 5000 series Ryzen CPUs.

While in turn wondering if I should get a 6 core like I currently have or upgrade to an 8 core and if I need more than 16GB of ram.
 
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Well yeah, getting an NVMe for my game drive is the plan. I'm just worrying about getting a motherboard with good NVMe slot placement, a good amount of rear USB slots, and a good BIOS that can handle the 5000 series Ryzen CPUs.

While in turn wondering if I should get a 6 core like I currently have or upgrade to an 8 core and if I need more than 16GB of ram.

I believe you wrote that you have 16 GB in two sticks? You can get 2 x 8 sticks of Corsair Vengeance LPX for $53 at New Egg currently.

I personally put in NVMe before I put the video card on. Similarly, if I wanted to upgrade to 64 GB of ram, it would be next to impossible without removing one of the CPU cooling fans.

As far as going with an 8 core vs a 6 core, look at benchmarks from various sources and see what the price difference are.
I will say that the 5600x is a lot cooler based on its power consumption 65w vs 105w. Might also allow you to retain your old power supply.
 
I believe you wrote that you have 16 GB in two sticks? You can get 2 x 8 sticks of Corsair Vengeance LPX for $53 at New Egg currently.

I personally put in NVMe before I put the video card on. Similarly, if I wanted to upgrade to 64 GB of ram, it would be next to impossible without removing one of the CPU cooling fans.

As far as going with an 8 core vs a 6 core, look at benchmarks from various sources and see what the price difference are.
I will say that the 5600x is a lot cooler based on its power consumption 65w vs 105w. Might also allow you to retain your old power supply.
One of the things I don't like about my current motherboard is that the NVMe slot is located right between the motherboard and video card heatsink, which makes me worry about how heat would affect the drive.

The reason I was looking at the SFX power supply because while the Torrent Nano can fit a full size power supply, it makes cable management quite difficult.
 
One of the things I don't like about my current motherboard is that the NVMe slot is located right between the motherboard and video card heatsink, which makes me worry about how heat would affect the drive.

The reason I was looking at the SFX power supply because while the Torrent Nano can fit a full size power supply, it makes cable management quite difficult.

Mine is between the CPU and video card as well.
Right now sitting at 32 degrees
 
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This is a curiosity question but, is there a decent thin and small footprint 1080p 60fps monitor that does not use VESA mounting?
 
This is a curiosity question but, is there a decent thin and small footprint 1080p 60fps monitor that does not use VESA mounting?
I have an old one that doesn't support VESA. I expect the great majority of computer monitors released in the past few years support the option of using VESA even if the stand they come with connects in a different way.
 
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