For all your questions on the Death sphere and why or how it exists here in the Old World of Darkness...

I should probably remind you that we are talking about the Hollow Ones here. And if you're not aware of their reputation, all I can say is that they are very much a product of the time period in which oWoD was created. I really wouldn't put it past them to simply rename the Spirit or Entropy sphere.
... Seriously? That's hilarious. xD
 
And why would you need to reflavor Entropy to focus on the underworld? I thought it already does that?
Nope. Not nearly as much as one might expect, given how the Euthanatos are sometimes portrayed.

Entropy does have some influence regarding death and the undead, but not that much, certainly not enough to say it "focuses" on it; most derives from its influence over Chaos/Order, and specifically the ability to bring chaos/order to living things. There's Agama Sojourn, which requires Entropy 4 along with Spirit and Life (to keep your body in stasis), and a rote to ward against ghosts. It's also an incredibly bad idea to use Entropy in the Underworld simply because the Spectres will come eat your soul.

Luck, fortune, and manipulating complex systems have little or nothing to do with death except insofar as sometimes things that interact with those are alive and can be caused to not be anymore. The majority of stuff you'd expect a necromancer to do is actually Spirit.

Making the nWoD "Death" Sphere would take a bunch of stuff from Spirit, some from Life, and a bit from Entropy while filling in the thematic cracks.
And is it really possible to reflavor the Life Sphere to focus on Ghosts instead of living beings?
Could be, if you for some bizarre reason want to manipulate Plasm and don't want to bother affecting the living apart from making them not anymore (or preventing the same).
 
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The sky overhead is blue, with only a few scattered clouds. The weather is going to hold for the next few days, according to forecasts. There are circling seagulls overhead, making a racket.

Kessler wanted to go surfing, until he was reminded that a) this wasn't a surfing beach, and b) when your endoskeleton is made of primium, swimming is hard.

A very, very fancy limousine pulls into the front of a whitewashed Regency-era townhouse. Despite its age and apparently once quite grand nature, it looks gone to seed. There are stains on the whitewashing and the geraniums growing by the street are wilting slightly.

The driver, Henriette, undoes her belt, and twists in her seat to glare at the people in the back. Mostly Donald. "What is this place?" she asks.

"It's a private guesthouse," Serafina says, looking at the guide.

Henriette looks around.

"What a dump," she mutters. "We could be in London right now. Or New York. Or a civilised place."

"Sometimes it does you good to get away for a bit," Donald says brightly. "And to preempt your next comment, yes, there is internet access here. You won't need to camp out in the car."

"Well, I suppose that's something," Henriette and Antoinette say in unison, and then glare at each other.

"Civilised doesn't mean 'I can't see the horizon due to the buildings'," Rose says cheerfully. "I like it! It's got personality."

Henriette shoots a sideways glance at Rose, and sighs. "I just thought for once... well, that since Director Belltower isn't here, we wouldn't wind up in some painfully middle-of-the-road place she picked out to be as average as possible," she says plaintively.

Donald's hand goes to his mouth in mock outrage. "Please," he says. "Give me some credit. Now, remember, the second floor is ours and it's a Union facility, so follow the standard protocols. Basement access is off limits unless properly authorised - that's me and you, Serafina. And I have tickets for a performance booked for this evening, so everyone will need to be ready for six - and I have dinner at a good restaurant after that. Now, you have the day off until OPERATION: PERFORMANCE AND A MEAL is scheduled. Our... ah, dog-loving"

Rose tilts her head. "Ah! Dog-loving! It's funny because it's both a reference and because they engage in bestiality." She frowns. "Only it's not funny."

Serafina swallows. "Rose and I won't be going to the performance, although we'll hopefully meet you for dinner," she tells Donald.

"We won't?" Rose asks. "Awww."

"No, we won't," Serafina says. "We need to talk."

...​

It is not terrible, Henriette is forced to concede. Which is to say, it could be worse. Okay, it's actually pretty nice. The bathroom is compact but lavish, there's discreetly hidden hardware behind the wood panelling, and the carpet is deep and plush. And the internet connection is Union-fast. In fact, the only major let-down is that she's sharing a room with Antoinette. And even there, there are separate beds.

Despite that, Donald had assured her the walls are well soundproofed, with a waggling of his eyebrows which was almost certainly sexual harassment of some kind. She managed to not punch him.

"Does this meet with your satisfaction, milady?" Antionette asks, from where she's unpacking neatly folded dresses from her suitcase.

"It is adequate, your highness," Henriette retorts. "And don't take the entire wardrobe, by the way. Yes. It's at least better than anywhere Director Belltower has taken us to, apart from the Geofront." She finds the dress she was looking for, and considers changing into it. "Not that that's a surprise, of course. She's the most Ordery Orderite I've ever met."

Antoinette raises her eyebrows, flopping back onto her bed. "What do you mean by that?" she asks.

Henriette sighs extravagantly. "Well, come on. Tight-fisted, paranoid, obsessed with being unnoticeable, workaholic, instinctively manipulative..." she begins to list. "She's an excellent Director and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else, but she's... well, you could probably pin her in an album and label her 'New World Order holotype'."

Antoinette sits up. "Yeah, see... um, you know the Order isn't just made up of paranoid hardened agents, right?" she says. "Like, have you actually interacted with any other agents? Or spent any amount of time doing cross-convention stuff before now?"

"And I suppose you know better?" Henriette snaps, and immediately regrets it because she remembers that the other woman probably does know better.

Antionette gives her a look. "Uh, hello?" she says. "My Dad is one. I've spent a lot of time in cross-convention work. My little sister is an active Watcher right now. Now, of course, milady, I'm sure in nineteen years you must have found out vast amounts about them, but maybe I might just have seen a little bit more than you." She shrugs. "Dad says '99 hit the New World Order differently from the way it hit the other Conventions."

"Oh?" Henriette asks, interested despite herself.

"Yeah. Like, for us, all our Methodologies had lots of off-world stuff, right? 'Cause everyone was working out of Autochtonia. Same for the Progenitors, lots of off-world research labs. And the Syndicate had all their leadership offworld, apart from, like, their current CEO who was at a meeting or something. But the NWO had lots and lots of the Ivory Tower offworld, but the Operatives were pretty massively earthside, even their senior members. So disproportionately the senior survivors were Operatives, or ex-Operatives who were running earthside amalgams because they didn't have the status because... you know, Ivory Tower politics are nearly as bad as Progenitor politics."

Henriette tilts her head, thinking. "That makes sense," she says. "Guess the Ivory Tower lived up to its name."

"Very original," Antoinette says drily, rolling off the bed. "But yeah. People always focus on... you know, people like my mother going into neurotic worry and obsession because we lost access to the Computer." Henriette flinches, but the other woman doesn't notice. She's looking out the window. "The NWO hides the fact that they basically got their science Methodology gutted and lost all the senior Watchers and it's now basically being run by the Operatives. You think we promote lots of HITMarks? You'd be amazed how much of the time I was working with - hell, taking orders from - self-aware MiBs when I was spending time with NWO amalgams.

"But anyway, yeah. Operatives might be dominant right now, but if you've seen an Ivory Tower bunch, you won't think of them as NWO guys. They're... totally different. And have excellent wine selections. I dated one for a while. Wow. He'd certainly made a study of certain aspects of Eastern culture. By which I mean the tantric..."

"Is it just me or do you find MiBs kind of... well, creepier than Progenitor stuff or HITMarks?" Henriette asks, trying to change the subject.

Antionette shrugs. "I guess so," she says. "I mean, the 1.0s are pretty freaky, but 2.0s... meh." She drums her feet on the carpet. "So... want to hit the beach? I'm bored of politics. I'll go see how the others are getting on with unpacking."

She steps out of the room, and after a brief pause steps back in.

"... is it just me," Antoinette asks, slightly shell-shocked, "or do Progenitors apparently not believe in locking their door when they're getting changed?"

Henriette is on rather more solid ground here. "No," she says firmly. "No, it is not just you."

"Both of them?"

"Yes!"
This seems a bit off to me. I mean I know why you're doing it, but Henreitte is a senior member of the amalgam, a Hero of the Technocracy. She shouldn't really be needing to share a room with Antionette.

I did a price check, a 1st floor room with a sea view there is £200 pounds a night. Now this might seem like a lot to you and me but Donald should be able to afford that out of his pocket change.
 
This seems a bit off to me. I mean I know why you're doing it, but Henreitte is a senior member of the amalgam, a Hero of the Technocracy. She shouldn't really be needing to share a room with Antionette.

I did a price check, a 1st floor room with a sea view there is £200 pounds a night. Now this might seem like a lot to you and me but Donald should be able to afford that out of his pocket change.
Who said anything about needing to share a room?

And consider that Donald, who like you said is filthy rich, might be doing this for a reason.
 
This seems a bit off to me. I mean I know why you're doing it, but Henreitte is a senior member of the amalgam, a Hero of the Technocracy. She shouldn't really be needing to share a room with Antionette.

I did a price check, a 1st floor room with a sea view there is £200 pounds a night. Now this might seem like a lot to you and me but Donald should be able to afford that out of his pocket change.
Sure, but then he'd lose an opportunity to find out how well they coexist - which is important if Antoinette is to join our amalgam.
 
Who said anything about needing to share a room?

And consider that Donald, who like you said is filthy rich, might be doing this for a reason.
It is not terrible, Henriette is forced to concede. Which is to say, it could be worse. Okay, it's actually pretty nice. The bathroom is compact but lavish, there's discreetly hidden hardware behind the wood panelling, and the carpet is deep and plush. And the internet connection is Union-fast. In fact, the only major let-down is that she's sharing a room with Antoinette. And even there, there are separate beds.

Sure, but then he'd lose an opportunity to find out how well they coexist - which is important if Antoinette is to join our amalgam.
I don't know. Donald hasn't really struck me as the type to go in for casual Jamelia style manipulations. When he's serious he's dead serious but at the moment he's more playing. Which means I'd say its more likely he's just doing it for the lolz.

Still, having Henriette and Antoinette share a room seems like a bit of a stupid move, as the main reason for this trip in his internal monologue is because the amalgam has been put under massive amounts of stress recently - first Hong-Kong, then Moscow, then the Werewolves and Pentex - and this trip is to allow everyone to relax and get their feet back under them. However due to Henriette and Antoinette's shared Tsun tendencies its very possible that they'll play off each other and end up ruining Henriette's relaxation time. Which would be ok if she wasn't a key combat asset who's been under a tremendous amount of stress.

Testing how they deal with each other would work just as well with mandatory field trips to the beach or something (like the performance that Donald has organised later) and wouldn't potentially jeopardize Henriette's overall relaxation.

And it's not a normal room.
Its a shared room. Which means its a normal room with two beds instead of one double bed.
 
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"Well, I suppose that's something," Henriette and Antoinette say in unison, and then glare at each other.
Moe Moe TSUN! -ette BEEEEAM

"... is it just me," Antoinette asks, slightly shell-shocked, "or do Progenitors apparently not believe in locking their door when they're getting changed?"

Henriette is on rather more solid ground here. "No," she says firmly. "No, it is not just you."
You missed a perfect, perfect opportunity about "You should see what Serafina is like when she's doing her nose". Henriette knows all about walking in on Progenitors. :V
 
It just cuts off here. Something missed?

Fix'd.
That's going to be a 'fun' conversation.

Well, tweaked that a bit. She wants them to just spend some time together, and then she can sum up the courage to talk. Hopefully.

Eventually something is going to catch Antoinette's attention about how Henriette does not like to talk about what should be a common-as-dirt topic for an Iteration Xer. Even leaving the psychological twitches she still has aside, can Henriette even discuss Autocthonia with someone not 'read-in' on the Conspiracy? At some point Antoinete is going to ask about what has got to be Henriette's second most famous mission, to the Holiest of Holies for ItX. That's going to be an even more fun conversation, especially if its before Jamelia decides if Antoinette is someone they even want to know that.

If you ask the right people in ItX, you can probably find out that Henriette has issues and PTSD from the failed Autochtonia mission. After all, that's the reason she was moved to cross-Convention work - she attacked a Comptroller.

Hence, Henriette will almost certainly stonewall her - after all, "It's Classified" is always a valid excuse in the Union.

Making the nWoD "Death" Sphere would take a bunch of stuff from Spirit, some from Life, and a bit from Entropy while filling in the thematic cracks.

And when you're already learning DSci rather than Spirit, well. That means the two Spheres don't even overlap much...

This seems a bit off to me. I mean I know why you're doing it, but Henreitte is a senior member of the amalgam, a Hero of the Technocracy. She shouldn't really be needing to share a room with Antionette.

I did a price check, a 1st floor room with a sea view there is £200 pounds a night. Now this might seem like a lot to you and me but Donald should be able to afford that out of his pocket change.

He's not doing it for reasons of price. He's doing it because the amalgam which operates this safehouse and pretends to be a slightly seedy guesthouse only rents one floor out - hence why the basement is off limits if you don't have clearance.

It was either "pick here" or "pick somewhere less nice and less well-placed, but where everyone would get their own room" or "pick somewhere not Union run and have to care about security". He chose the route which maximised luxury and minimised the amount of work he had to do. After all, it's only going to be for a few nights, and then they can go somewhere nicer for a proper holiday.
 
Side Story: Yellowfields; Jamelia 01
Quasi-continued from here.

Yellowfields 01: The Weary Road

The fields of golden corn wave in the wind. The old black Cadillac makes its way out of town, along the dusty road. It could almost be a scene from the 1950s, if it wasn't for the billboard on the outskirts advertising a new smartphone.

Inside an old, obsolete car, an old, obsolete man shifts from second to third gear, and mutters to himself as the car almost stalls. Harlan Aristide has kept this old Priest - long since replaced by the Paladin - working as best he can, but she left the production line forty years ago and the last time she broke down he had to find a young Iterator who took the job of repairing her because they wanted to do a report on machines operating past their lifespan.

Harlan is on the way to his construct for the first time in years. He hasn't been since the last of his Men in Black died of organ failure. There are a few Sympathisers who show up every week to clean the place. As far as they're concerned, it's an old federal facility kept running despite the fact that no one works there. They probably make jokes about government bloat.

The New World Order does like its bloat. It would always prefer to cut an old facility back to a shoestring budget and mothball it, than actually shut it down. Which means there are probably tens, hundreds of places like this all over the US, manned by agents out of favour or by old Men in Black given a retirement as a caretaker.

In his long career, Harlan Aristide has seen many places other people wouldn't believe. He's seen lakes of burning sulphur. He's been trapped outside reality from his own powers going haywire, barely managing to escape. He's fought terrorists armed with nuclear power robots possessed by aliens which look like classical demons.

And in his case, rural Ohio is his personal purgatory.

But for once, the higher ups have remembered he exists. That's probably a bad sign, because he's an old drunk who is the Director of a construct which was high tech in 1970 and leads an amalgam consisting of himself and the metaphorical ghosts of his past. Which means he got disrupted from his drinking and had to go change into a fresh shirt and tie in his car before he drove here.

He wonders what this is going to be. A formal reprimand for being absent from the office during working hours? Actual, formal retirement? A 9mm retirement? Maybe it's just a trick by some Virtual Adepts who found where an old enemy is and he's about to be murdered by a bunch of fanatics for things he did thirty years ago. He doesn't think it's anything to do with his attempts to get out of this deadwater which he started after the visit from Jasmine Bao. He'd just started putting out feelers when Moscow happened and any chance of attention being spared for someone like him was snuffed out.

He has a headache. The voices in his head, the ones which claim to be Control, are muttering again. Not loud enough to hear what they're saying, but loud enough to be annoying. Normally about now, he'd be ordering another drink, but work intrudes. Dammit.

He pulls off the highway, past the old rusting sign proclaiming 'DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE ARCHIVES AUTHORISED PERSONNEL ONLY', and follows the half-mile road through the cornfields to the old barbed wire perimeter around his construct. The yellowing grass is overgrown and there are bird droppings all over the roof. It's quiet out here. The only noise is the sound of his car and the wind through the corn.

But for once, the parking lot isn't empty. There's a shiny new Paladin there, next to three large lorries with Department of Agriculture markings. That casts a distinctly... peculiar tone to the current events. Maybe they're moving something new into his construct because they need a new laboratory, and they're putting a new Director in charge. He shouldn't care, but he does. It's his construct, even if he hasn't been inside in five years. Maybe they're just dumping more stuff here for long term storage and they need him to sign the papers acknowledging receipt.

That's certainly plausible.

He parks the car, and gets out, stretching. A little bit of pride makes him dust off his faded black jacket and slick down his iron grey hair before he gets out. Time to face his destiny, it seems. Or maybe sign some paperwork. Whatever.

His arrival seems to prompt the occupants of the Paladin to get out. The driver is a tall man with the bearing of - Harlan narrows his eyes. A bearing which is somewhere between that of an Iteration X commando and a NWO Operative. Yes, the man is heavily cyberised. But he pays little attention to the man, compared to the woman beside him.

Smart black suit. Olive-coloured skin. Lilac headscarf clearly chosen to match the deep purple trimmings visible inside her sleeves. X-10 Protector at her hip, and the bulge of a second pistol inside her jacket. Mirrorshades protruding from her pocket.

She's a face from his past. Literally. She hasn't aged a day. You wouldn't believe that he's actually two years younger than her.

And then he gets closer and realises that he's wrong. One look at her eyes, and he can see the difference. The last time he saw her, she had the eyes of a pitiless meat machine. The time before that, they were hollowed and doubting, broken. And before that, they burned with the gleam of the fanatic.

Now? Now, they're more... more human than last time. But they're still colder. They don't have the fires they used to. And under the coldness, there seems to be pity in them. Yes. She's pitying him.

Her, the voices in his head scream. The Adversary!

"Director Aristide," she says. "It's been a while."

"What should I call you this time?" he asks, his voice cracking slightly. He knows the name she currently uses, of course. He might be stuck in rural Ohio, but he has so little to do that he can at least keep track of NWO internal politics. And the voices in his head hate her. Oh yes, they do.

"Jamelia will do," she says. "Director Belltower if you really want to be formal. Director Aristide, this is Jaron Belltower of Project Tyrant."

He doesn't ask if they're married. New World Order agents get over the idea that a shared surname means you're related. What this does mean, however, is that he has two Belltowers visiting him. That's a big deal. In the post '99 New World Order, Belltowers and former Belltowers are senior staff.

"And here you are, Hyena, here to scavenge off the dead," he mutters.

"You're not dead, Aristide," she said in that exceptionally annoying calm voice she's prone to using. "Why don't we step inside? We should talk."

"The coffee machine broke years ago," Harlan Aristide mutters, turning on his heel and heading towards the entrance. Time to see if his swipe card still works.

"Oh, don't worry," the other Belltower, Jaren, says. He gestures at one of the lorries, and the doors are swung open. Men in Black in coveralls get out, and start unloading... well. A lot of things. "I'm sure we have a new coffee machine somewhere in here."
 
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But for once, the parking lot isn't empty. There's a shiny new Paladin there, next to three large lorries with Department of Agriculture markings.

My only comment (other than acute pangs of jealousy at your prolific writing and the accompanying skill with which you carry it out) is to point out that in rural Ohio he's probably not going to be calling them 'lorries', but rather more likely 'trucks' or 'semis', unless Harlan Aristide is explicitly being singled out as being quite British.

Also, thank you for the view of what an old agent put out to pasture looks like. It sounded very lonely.
 
I remember @MJ12 Commando mentioning something about non-J.B. NWO names meaning something in particular back when the General (Augustine Aleph) was being discussed, but I never saw where what it actually meant was laid out.
 
Might be indicative of him not being an Operative like the Belltowers or the other JBs. He's a psychic NWO agent, so would that mean he falls more under the Ivory Tower section of things?
 
It would explain why Control is close enough to whisper in his head.
I think that's due to 'psychic' in WoD meaning he has talents (Spirit/DSci) that let him hear/see/penetrate the Gauntlet, and that goes both ways. He can't help but hear on the 'frequency' that the mad ghosts that were Control keep talking on.
 
I think that's due to 'psychic' in WoD meaning he has talents (Spirit/DSci) that let him hear/see/penetrate the Gauntlet, and that goes both ways. He can't help but hear on the 'frequency' that the mad ghosts that were Control keep talking on.
I think that 'phsycic' is just the Paradigm that the NWO uses to justify using straight up magic instead of hypertech. You know, for when they need things straight out of Carrie or Firestarter.
 
I think that's due to 'psychic' in WoD meaning he has talents (Spirit/DSci) that let him hear/see/penetrate the Gauntlet, and that goes both ways. He can't help but hear on the 'frequency' that the mad ghosts that were Control keep talking on.
So does Jamelia, right?
And yet the only ghosts she has spoken to was that of Senex, who apparently had an intimate connection to her via her past life(s).
So it's possible that the reason Aristede is tapping into the Control frequency(and they into his) is because he had intimate connections to the mad EDEs who used to be Control.
 
There are a couple differences. For one, Aristide by his character sheet has Spirit 3, so he's both capable of two-way communication and more inclined towards the "Entity Contact" side of things. ...He also isn't "the Adversary", likely had personal contact with Control while they were human and while he had his psychic powers, and has Correspondence (hence distant psychic contact) integrated into his psychic paradigm, where Jamelia probably doesn't have it as neatly linked.

Also, he's been isolated from anyone else for who-knows-how-long.

Any number of those could plausibly contribute to him hearing Control while Jamelia doesn't.
 
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