Nine Quest: Believe In Getter and Hold A Determination to Build

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..... huh. Not where I thought this was going.

Kinda regret heading to the lab now, not sure I'm a fan of this. Eh, it'll grow on me.

[X] Jump in ahead of it, grab the fragments and run. Lead it on a merry chase until backup can arrive; surely Hibiki and her girlfriend must be close by now, right?

We don't know for sure how far Getter went into turning the Symphogear into a Getter, so we don't know if changing form will work. Let's save that for a past ditch.
If it helps, there will still be plenty of traditional giant robot shenanigans to come. The choice of where to go was more along the lines of what to focus on first, not what to focus on forever to the exclusion of all else. Anyway, this is normally around the time that I would lock the vote, but as we currently have a tie I'll leave it open for a few hours and see if we get a tiebreaker. Loving these write-ins and discussion, though!

Quick edit: If nobody breaks the tie in the next couple hours, would people prefer a runoff vote or a hybrid update taking parts of both votes? I'm open to whatever leaves people most satisfied!
 
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Alright, I'm going to tentatively lock the vote now and start working on a hybrid update, see if it works out. Hopefully I'll have a post up tomorrow a bit earlier than usual. If it doesn't work out, I'll flip a coin and assign a winner based on that, then write accordingly.
Scheduled vote count started by SilverStorm on Mar 13, 2025 at 8:11 PM, finished with 6 posts and 5 votes.

  • [X] It may be a long shot, but not only you need speed, but also something that is able to pierce this thing to destroy it, while all the designs changed over the years according to Ryoma, Hayato and Benkei, all of them had designated jobs when dealing with enemies, Getter 1 and Dragon obviously was designed to fit a more aggressive style fitting Ryoma and Go, while Getter 3 and Poseidon were fitted mostly underwater combat and heavy lifting.
    -[X] This may be a Symphogear, but it is technnically also a getter machine, a super robot made to take no one, no two, but three possible forms and when it comes to the getter despite how much things change they also tend to stay the same.
    --[X] As Hayato would say, it is time to show this thing how fighting at the speed of sound looks like, for all that you need to do now is what they would have told you if they were here, believe in getter.
    ---[X] CHANGE LIGER!
    ----[X] If that somehow works, use the superior speed of Liger alongside it is probable drill arm to tear the enemy apart, if it doesn't try to get a quickly to that thing at least to make sure things don't futher go down the drain.
    [X] Jump in ahead of it, grab the fragments and run. Lead it on a merry chase until backup can arrive; surely Hibiki and her girlfriend must be close by now, right?
    [X] Whatever a Symphogear or Gjallahorn really is, you know one thing: Getter Rays thrive off determination and will. Pour everything into a Getter Beam!
 
Alas, too slow to offer I tie break. It's an interesting story even though I am quite confused by the details, since I don't really know either properties, but big robot/combat suit fights are cool 💙


For the record, I dislike the choice of grabbing stuff and running away, since it's a little counter to the previous very open choices, and could be seen as hostile (or something we tried to build trust towards to only betray the others at last second), so my tie break would have gone to the plan and I don't really understand, powered by belief and transformations ^^

Thanks for running the quest 💙💙💙
 
Quick edit: If nobody breaks the tie in the next couple hours, would people prefer a runoff vote or a hybrid update taking parts of both votes? I'm open to whatever leaves people most satisfied!

Either a run off to break the tie or maybe leave it to the dice/coin toss?

I rather have an option win and not do hybrid cause there can be cases were plans contradict each other so doing that might not be the best move.
 
Alas, too slow to offer I tie break. It's an interesting story even though I am quite confused by the details, since I don't really know either properties, but big robot/combat suit fights are cool 💙


For the record, I dislike the choice of grabbing stuff and running away, since it's a little counter to the previous very open choices, and could be seen as hostile (or something we tried to build trust towards to only betray the others at last second), so my tie break would have gone to the plan and I don't really understand, powered by belief and transformations ^^

Thanks for running the quest 💙💙💙
Thank you for your kind words! I know I already locked the vote, but I think I'll take that as a vote in favor of attempted transformation shenanigans since it'll be more satisfying than what I was working on.

Either a run off to break the tie or maybe leave it to the dice/coin toss?

I rather have an option win and not do hybrid cause there can be cases were plans contradict each other so doing that might not be the best move.
You have a good point about the plans contradicting each other, which would explain a lot about the issues I was having trying to start this update. Alright, vote decided in favor of Plan Believe In Getter!
 
Update Eight - Fight Smarter, Not Harder New
[X] Plan Believe In Getter

As your song hums through your body, it's clear to you that you have to do something, anything, to keep this thing away from the relic fragments. You're not sure what would happen if it got to them, but something tells you that it would be bad. With that in mind, your mind races furiously to find a solution. Tackle the thing? No, it has significantly more mass than you, not to mention if it's targeting the fragments it might just rip out the one currently entangled with your body. There has to be a better way… that's it!

You might not have the strength to take this thing head on, but sometimes you have to fight smarter, not harder. Your goal doesn't have to be to face it power for power; as long as you can keep it from doing whatever it came here to do, that's already a win. Every second you delay is another second that backup draws closer, another second that Chris gets closer to being able to help you. It wants the Gjallarhorn fragments? Then all you have to do is keep it up here on the surface, away from them, and you win.

Of course, that's easier said than done in your current state. You can feel your strength waning, the power of your song fading along with the song of your heart. But right now what you need isn't strength, it's speed. What was it that Ryoma and Go always said? Right, you just need to believe in Getter. The Getter Rays granted you this power, and they'll grant you what you need to safeguard their chosen instrument. All you have to do is have faith.

Time seems to slow down as the Sarcophagus leaps past you and towards the gap in the deck; as it stands, there's no way you can catch it. Fortunately, you have a plan in mind. The red armor of your Symphogear shatters and fades as you draw it back into yourself, readying for a charge. There's no way around the fact that this is going to hurt whether it works or not, but it's your only chance at granting yourself the speed you need to win the day. As Chris screams in wordless frustration, as Elfnein screams a warning, you yourself scream in defiance:

"CHANGE GETTER LIGER!"

And there's the pain you were expecting! Your body contorts as the crystalline matter wrapped around your artificial bones shifts and distorts, shoving and contorting your limbs to fit into a new pattern. You scream in renewed agony as your mind struggles to keep up with the changes overtaking you. The red in your dress is taken over almost entirely by blue, your crown shifting to a three-pointed blue design that lacks the Getter Beam emitter your previous headpiece sported. The armor in your legs elongates and narrows as fins jut out, crushing your legs tightly and painfully as jet thrusters form on the soles of your feet. Your twin-tailed red cape stretches and solidifies into a pair of blue and yellow rocket engines, and in the end your armor is nearly the spitting image of Getter Liger. Only nearly, though; for all you try, for all you sing and shout and scream, you simply cannot produce the drill arm in place of your left hand. Perhaps you are simply too low on power; perhaps such a change is entirely beyond you. In the end, it doesn't matter, as you still have enough of what you need for your chosen goal.

You ignore the various exclamations of disbelief from your allies as you grin through blood-stained teeth and rev up your engines; if this homicidal penguin wants a battle, you'll show it what it feels like to fight at the speed of sound! You roar your rage into the sky and pour everything you have into speed, rockets flaring to life as you tear past the now painfully slow Sarcophagus as it tries and fails to catch you with a wild swing of its remaining arm. Running circles around it is easy with your newfound swiftness; the only challenge you face is not flinging yourself off the deck as you rocket around your foe at previously unthinkable speeds. Is this how Hayato feels all the time? No wonder he's such an adrenaline junkie! In fact, you might want to be careful not to let the Getter Rays influence you any more than they already have…

Just as you have that thought, you immediately push it aside when you see a glint of steel lying on the deck. You haven't got the strength to finish the job with just your bare hands, but one of your discarded Getter Tomahawks just might be enough to make the difference. With a satisfied smirk, you leap for the weapon just as the Sarcophagus breaks off and moves towards the hole in the deck. If it thinks it can outrace you, it's sorely mistaken, as it learns to its own cost as you turn back around and give chase. It tries to throw its remaining arm up as a shield, but it's too late; you slip inside its guard easily and use your excessive velocity to throw yourself into a spin. Its armor is tough, but the force of your Tomahawk Tornado tears right through its midsection like a buzz-saw and out through its back as your song reaches its crescendo. The machine explodes as you slump to the ground, Symphogear fading and power spent.

Unfortunately, a shout of pain reminds you that the battle is not yet over; Chris has dispatched the last of the drones that were harassing her, but she's now down on one knee with the literally disarmed Karma-Noise about to crush her beneath its massive bulk. The gigantic belly flop would look comical if it wasn't for the fact that one of your new friends is about to be squished flat beneath it. The lurching motion of the enormous enemy combined with the lingering aftershocks of its arrival combine to throw the submarine one more time, but this time you can't keep your footing and are thrown to the edge of the deck. You're barely able to grab a handhold, but your grip is weakening and it's all you can do to watch as death descends on Chris from above. Just as your grip is about to fail entirely, however, a new song enters the battlefield, an anthem of love and justice belting out for all the world to hear.

"HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!"

A fist of thunder and lightning smashes into the Karma-Noise like the fist of an angry god. The golden-clad hero, for there is no other word to describe her, smashes clean through the Karma-Noise like its armored body was made of glass. The black beast lets out one final wail before exploding in an enormous puff of smoke and ashes. The roaring flames and impressive speed behind her fist remind you of a rocket punch in all of its glory; how is a person on foot able to generate this kind of power? Is this the true strength of a miracle? Could you do that one day?

"About time, idiot!" Chris shouts in equal parts frustration and joy; so this must be Hibiki then. You wish that you could greet her more politely, but your current circumstances make that difficult. She seems friendly enough, if a bit unprofessional judging by the way she immediately tackle hugs Chris and picks her up in a princess carry. Your rumination is promptly interrupted by your grip finally giving out and you dropping over the side of the submarine to shouts of surprise and horror from both Chris and Hibiki. You don't entirely share their concern, but it would be wrong to dismiss it entirely; while you are an android and thus cannot drown, sinking to the bottom of the sea would be a rather unpleasant way to spend the next few minutes or hours of your life.

Fortunately, instead of falling into the sea you instead fall into the arms of a girl with warm eyes and lustrous black hair. She too wears a Symphogear, this one shining in colors of purple and white; this must be Hibiki's girlfriend. You open your mouth to thank her only to vomit blood into the sea instead as the adrenaline rush wears off and the damage from your injuries begin to catch up with you. Dozens of status reports clog your brain, each of them bearing a warning of something either moderately or critically damaged during your battle. Your savior's smile turns to a look of concern as your vision begins to turn black; today is just not your day, is it?

And so you pass out. Again.

When you come to, you find yourself lying on a bed in what your records indicate is a medical bay within the submarine. Two girls are sitting nearby, watching over you as you rest. You immediately recognize them as the reinforcements that showed up just in time, though they look rather different in civilian clothing instead of their Symphogears. Hibiki is a sandy-haired blonde with well-defined muscles and a goofy smile on her face as she holds hands with her black-haired partner and stares at the floor. The black-haired girl is quick to break the silence; they must have been having a conversation while you rested and recharged.

"-I'm just glad we got here in time. Chris is fine, you know how she is. I'm more concerned about that poor Autoscorer; you didn't see her like I did, Hibiki. She looked half-dead and she barely seemed to care!" You are starting to get really annoyed with this comparison to an 'Autoscorer;' sometime soon, you're going to need to sit your new allies down and have a proper conversation about what exactly you are and how to refer to you. You can tell that she doesn't mean anything by it, though, so you elect to let it pass for now. In truth, you're more interested in learning her name, since you didn't have the chance to do so earlier. One quick hack into S.O.N.G.'s personnel files later, and you can say with absolute confidence that you are face-to-face with the wielders of Gungnir and Shenshoujing, one Tachibana Hibiki and her girlfriend Kohinata Miku.

"I guess you're right," Hibiki pipes up before raising her head to stare into Miku's eyes. "At least it means we have some time to ourselves..." Neither of them have noticed that you're awake; not terribly surprising, given how attached they seem to be to each other. What should you do now?

Vote Choices:

[] Draw their attention. "Thank you for saving me back there. My name is Nine, what's yours?" Just because you already know is no reason to be rude.

[] Feign sleep for the moment; they might be embarrassed to hear you listening in on this, but it's all for your research into the nature of love! For science!

[] Write-In
 
[X] Feign sleep for the moment; they might be embarrassed to hear you listening in on this, but it's all for your research into the nature of love! For science!

Research into the nature of love sounds important. ^^
 
[X] Draw their attention. "Thank you for saving me back there. My name is Nine, what's yours?" Just because you already know is no reason to be rude.
 
[X] Draw their attention. "Thank you for saving me back there. My name is Nine, what's yours?" Just because you already know is no reason to be rude.
 
[X] Feign sleep for the moment; they might be embarrassed to hear you listening in on this, but it's all for your research into the nature of love! For science!
 
[X] Feign sleep for the moment; they might be embarrassed to hear you listening in on this, but it's all for your research into the nature of love! For science!

It's for science, what can I say? There is no greater cause.
 
[X] Draw their attention. "Thank you for saving me back there. My name is Nine, what's yours?" Just because you already know is no reason to be rude.
 
[X] Draw their attention. "Thank you for saving me back there. My name is Nine, what's yours?" Just because you already know is no reason to be rude.
 
[X] Draw their attention. "Thank you for saving me back there. My name is Nine, what's yours?" Just because you already know is no reason to be rude.
 
Alright, vote locked in favor of Nine introducing herself! Update to come later tonight, hopefully.
Scheduled vote count started by SilverStorm on Mar 15, 2025 at 8:08 PM, finished with 8 posts and 8 votes.

  • [X] Draw their attention. "Thank you for saving me back there. My name is Nine, what's yours?" Just because you already know is no reason to be rude.
    [X] Feign sleep for the moment; they might be embarrassed to hear you listening in on this, but it's all for your research into the nature of love! For science!
 
chris is going to be surprised on how we are still alive and awake after the sheer bullshit we just pulled.

Like the closest they have gotten to a symphogear changing have been the ignite module and the amalgam apart from the end of seasons modes.

We literally just pulled what amounts to modifying a relic on the fly and it somehow fucking working.

Still glad my gamble of getting the form changes worked.

Liger was our real only choice here either way.

Dragon was already struggling and for poseidon we need both arms to pull off Musashi and Benkei favorite technique.

Still alca noise and the sarcophagus were obviously sent by someone, but who.

Well questions for later, right now we need to recover and pobably change stories on the stuff we have dealt with.

This battle barely reaches top 10 of most dangerous and stupid stuff Nine has had to do.
 
Update Nine - Introductions and Misconceptions New
[X] Draw their attention. "Thank you for saving me back there. My name is Nine, what's yours?" Just because you already know is no reason to be rude.

For a moment you consider feigning sleep, but then you pause. On the one hand, love has been the greatest mystery you have ever tried to grasp ever since you began your study of humanity. While you think that you're starting to develop an understanding of the concept following your confrontation with NevanEnde, more data can only be a good thing. On the other hand, spying on your allies without their knowledge would be the height of rudeness, especially if they're having an emotionally intimate moment. With that in mind, you cough and prop yourself up, breaking up the moment in the process.

"Thank you for saving me back there," you begin. "My name is Nine, what's yours?" Even if you already know their names thanks to your hacking skills, it's only fair to let them introduce themselves.

"Ah!" Hibiki startles and flails her arms in response to your question. "Oh, I'm glad you're OK! My name is Hibiki, it's nice to meet you! This is-"

"-Miku Kohinata," Miku finishes her sentence without hesitation. "Are you really alright? You looked really bad out there. Thank you for helping Chris, especially with your injuries." She seems much calmer than Hibiki, which suits you just fine. Loud, hot-blooded enthusiasm is important when it comes to saving the day, but it can get tiring very quickly in large doses.

"I'm fine," you reply, "it's nothing a little bit of time in a repair bay can't… fix?" You pull up your damage reports from earlier only to find that all of them have been labeled as resolved from almost the moment you passed out. "What happened to me?" You have plenty of experience with self-healing nanomachines, but you left them out of your own body for a reason! How did so much damage repair itself so quickly?

"Oh, that happens when you fuse with a relic!" Hibiki speaks up before briefly grimacing, probably from bad memories of some kind. "When your fusion advances far enough, you can heal from just about anything; I regrew a whole arm once too, so you're not alone there!" Miku tightens her grip on Hibiki's hand in response; this really is a sensitive subject for them, isn't it? "Elfnein was surprised though. It took over two years for my Gungnir to fuse with me that much, and you did it in less than two minutes! How did you do that?"

"I have a hypothesis," you begin, "but it's not a very satisfying answer. Do you still want to hear it?"

"I certainly would," Miku says as she smiles at you. "It's OK if you don't want to tell us, though. We're just curious about your condition."

"Alright then," you relent. "The short answer is that the Getter Rays did it."

"The… Getter Rays did it?" Hibiki and Miku chorus in unison.

"Indeed." You pout grumpily. "Getter Rays did it, so physics and logic are immediately out the window. If they can accelerate evolution, then it makes some degree of sense that they can accelerate how fast I adapted to my new Symphogear." And isn't that a fun prospect to consider; you're no stranger to combat, but that's almost always been from the safety of a reinforced cockpit, not on foot like one of those Gundam Fighter lunatics. "It's not the first time I've had to deal with that nonsense, but I'm really hoping it will be the last." Something tells you that's not likely to be the case, though.

"I don't really get it," Hibiki says, "but thank you for protecting everyone and helping Chris! We only made it in time because you were helping, so thank you for being there! I hope we can be friends!"

Wow, this girl is as blunt as her fists, isn't she? Still, she seems like a good person, if a bit exhausting, and you don't really have any reason to refuse. "I think I'd like that," you say as you nod. "I'd like to be your friend as well, Miku, if you find that acceptable."

"I think that would be wonderful!" Miku says as she smiles at you. "I hope you have a better explanation for Elfnein though, she's been working herself to the bone worrying about you and how to fix you up if something like this happens again."

"I have no idea-" you say before you're interrupted by the doors opening and a pair of familiar faces walking in. Chris has some bandages on her leg but doesn't look much worse for wear, while Elfnein has bags under her eyes that speak volumes about how much work she must be doing right now. A quick check of your system logs reveal that it's been nearly an entire day since the battle; hopefully she'll catch up on her sleep soon, she must be exhausted if she's been working all this time.

"Nine! I'm glad to see you're alright, but I have some questions- oh, but you can go first, Chris!" Elfnein blushes and bows before stepping back behind Chris to wait her turn. Chris, for her part, is clearly less than thrilled to be the center of attention, especially with Miku and Hibiki looking to her as well. She stops in place and clears her throat before locking eyes with you.

"Right. I'm not going to apologize for being suspicious of you, Nine, but I will say thank you. You helped us out when we needed it and put yourself through the wringer doing it, and I won't forget that. I know I can be overly defensive sometimes, but you're part of the team now and we're all on the same side here." She blushes as she breaks eye contact, apparently finding the floor to be much more interesting. "And… I'm sorry you got hurt. I should have been better at covering you so you wouldn't have had to do whatever the hell that was back there. That's my job as your senpai. So get well soon and stop hurting yourself already!" On that note, she leaves, doing a swift 180 degree turn and nearly bowling over Elfnein in her haste to leave. She must be embarrassed; honestly, it's kind of cute, at least in your opinion.

Elfnein then comes up to your bedside with a smile on her face that turns more serious as she takes in your completely undamaged state. "So it really was a perfect fusion… more of your Getter Rays, I assume?"

"That's what she said!" Hibiki chimes in before gasping and covering her mouth in embarrassment for interrupting.

Elfnein acknowledges her with a nod before turning back to you. "I think I need the long story now, Nine. What else can you tell me about the Getter Rays, and how dangerous is this to your health? I know you're made of sterner stuff as an Autoscorer, but I've never seen one that can heal itself like that before, and I've maintained several in my time." Alright, it's time to cut off this misconception once and for all.

"Like I told Chris the first time," you say, taking effort to keep your tone even, "I am not an Autoscorer. I don't fully understand what that is, but this is a one-of-a-kind android body that I built myself, thank you very much." Hopefully you're not being too harsh with her, but you really want to set the record straight at this point. "I built it using spare and redirected parts from a joint train and super robot factory and music or alchemy were not involved at any point in the process." You're still having some difficulty wrapping your head around magic and alchemy being real; while you saw plenty of the former while fighting side-by-side with the Magic Knights, the latter is something you have absolutely no context for beyond that brief glimpse of Elfnein's lab.

"Oh no, I'm sorry!" Elfnein says as she bows to you. "I'll make the necessary changes to your file right away!" She then straightens back up and looks directly into your eyes once more. "I really do need more information though. Maintaining the Symphogears is my job, and I can't do that without more information about what happened to the Gjallarhorn." She then puts up a hand as you open your mouth, forestalling the obvious question. "The remaining fragments are locked in a lead-lined box deep in secure storage where only the Commander and I can access them. They're in the safest place they can be now that the Undersea Dragon Palace is no longer intact." You curiosity burns to know what exactly she means by that, but you let it lie for the moment; the current thread of conversation is more important.

"With that being said," Elfnein continues, "two more of our wielders, Kirika and Shirabe, are en route right now, so I can understand if you would rather delay the debriefing until they arrive. While I'm not comfortable with clearing you for action just yet, you're obviously well enough to head down to the simulator so I can explain some of the basics of Karma-Noise and Alca-Noise to you. The Commander also won't be available until later, as he's currently discussing the appearance of the Sarcophagi and the implications of that with some other people right now. It's up to you which one you'd rather do first, though, as I can take notes for him if need be. Oh, I hope we don't need to go back up to the moon again…" Now there's a sentence with some very interesting implications right there.

It would be nice to get an initial debriefing over and done with, especially if it means you can be more specific with your warnings to Elfnein. On the other hand, you don't particularly want to tell the story multiple times, and you've really been looking forward to messing with that simulator. You'll obviously get to do both eventually, but which one should you prioritize first?

Vote Choices:

[] She really wants your life story? Alright then, but you'd better adjourn to a room with a projector you can plug yourself into and some comfortable chairs, because it's only been a year but oh what a year it's been!

[] You'd really rather tell the story only once, and having an excuse to mess with that fancy simulator? You'll take it!

[] Write-In
 
[X] She really wants your life story? Alright then, but you'd better adjourn to a room with a projector you can plug yourself into and some comfortable chairs, because it's only been a year but oh what a year it's been!
 
[X] She really wants your life story? Alright then, but you'd better adjourn to a room with a projector you can plug yourself into and some comfortable chairs, because it's only been a year but oh what a year it's been!
 
Better get ready girls, if You think your life is Messy, get ready to the usual SRW shenanigans.

[X] She really wants your life story? Alright then, but you'd better adjourn to a room with a projector you can plug yourself into and some comfortable chairs, because it's only been a year but oh what a year it's been!

Lets see.

The entire Journey to Iskandar and the battle with the gamillians.

The nutcase that was Leonard Tesstarosa

The war againts the invaders.

The girls are probably gonna need a full course on the UC timeline to understand how Bad things got that things like the sleeves and the Júpiter Empire came to be.

The ELS were a trip and a half.

The Rogue elements of the jovian federation led by kusakabe.

The war againts Doctor Hell, then the awakening of the mycenean and the rise of Mazinger Zero.

The battle againts the Angels.

The battle of the brave express corps againts various villains ending with the final battle againts exev and a 4 way battle againts the gamillians, Cruz Dogatie, the emperor of darkness and Black noir.

Embryo is no doubt gonna jump directly to the punch as soon as You see him List for the entire cast.

Gardim in general.

There is also some nutcases from backstory due to Zambot, daitarn, seed Destiny and anime 00 all being post season.

So we should have accounts from mouth to mouth of the Gaizok, the meganoids, the entire mess that was the war with the coordinators starting with the bloody Valentine and Ribbons Alsmark.
 
[X] She really wants your life story? Alright then, but you'd better adjourn to a room with a projector you can plug yourself into and some comfortable chairs, because it's only been a year but oh what a year it's been!
 
I... know nothing about the history of either franchise, so er, let's go with whatever the events listed are... by Aron593; they are certainly words with meanings.

[x] Aron593
 
I... know nothing about the history of either franchise, so er, let's go with whatever the events listed are... by Aron593; they are certainly words with meanings.

[x] Aron593
That's the idea behind the next couple updates, actually; giving abbreviated overviews/recaps of both franchises to give everyone a bit more context as to what's going on and what happened in the backstory. And also so both sets of characters can be stunned into disbelief by their counterparts and the shenanigans they get up to, of course!
 
[X] She really wants your life story? Alright then, but you'd better adjourn to a room with a projector you can plug yourself into and some comfortable chairs, because it's only been a year but oh what a year it's been!

The nutcase that was Leonard Tesstarosa
Leonard wasn't quite that bad in SRW V, compared to other SRW entries where he showed up.
 
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