Miracles of Ancient Wonder [RWBY/Exalted]

Book 3 Chapter 2.4
Miracles of Ancient Wonder Book Three: Creation

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Chapter 2.4

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"Fascinating, do you know how it commands the others?" Doctor Oobleck stared at the new Grimm Ruby controlled while Yang turned her attention to the rest of their warehouse-hospital. She and Ruby were the only two who could be sure of killing the demon if it went out of line and her sister was going to be distracted. They were heading to an empty part of the city while Ruby waited for her Aura to recharge to show the thing off.

That left Yang watching the bug work its way through someone. It wasn't Ruby's reversal of any wounds, more like the flesh massaging Weiss did. People didn't look as good afterward, but they could stand and hear.

It popped out of a boy's head and waved three legs at her before diving into an older woman's thigh. That same set of words Weiss said she'd get mad about was there again.

'Can't even talk right.'

"Go fuck yourself," Yang whispered under her breath. The stupid demon would hear it, but no one else should.

'You let filth run free. You pay that utter waste!'

"Oh, you don't like… what was its name, Diver?"

'Sesselja should be squashed. Filthy vermin. Basal blights on every tavern!'

Yang chuckled, "Oh, am I not basal too then? Considering the whiskey I've been drinking, I'm barely any better."

'You are a Princess of Hell who takes what she deserves and desires, no matter how cheap, and recognizes quality when you see it. They consider the finest wine and watery beer just as good.'

"A drink's a drink."

'This is why you are a fail-'

Yang focused and turned the stupid demon out, like normal. Wow it was mad, that got it really good. The other demon was on the move again. When it waved, Yang gave it a thumbs up. "Hey Diver, good job!"

There was a weird quiver in the demon's backside and screech, but it suddenly moved faster.

'It does not deserve the dignity of your attention!'

"Please, he's been here for less than a day and he's already been more useful than you. Hell, more helpful than I've been. The little bug's doing goo-" Yang paused and considered what the hell she'd just said. A literal demon was doing 'good'? She ground her teeth and looked back to the room.

The boy who he'd just finished healing crept to the edge of his bed. A boy who, five minutes ago, was paralyzed from the neck down, wiggled over to the side and threw himself off. He shouted, landing on his hands and knees.

One of the doctors ran over as the boy started crying. He grabbed the sheet and pulled himself to his feet. Tears streaming down, but also one of the biggest smiles Yang had seen in a long time. It wasn't easy, no miracle of Ruby's making, but he was moving again. And that… that was enough. That was good enough.

A middle aged woman who'd been blinded, she would need glasses now, was getting dressed to join those searching. A teenage boy carefully moved each finger as his hands shook, ligaments no longer torn off. A doctor came up to her, "Lady Yang, please if you have the power. We could use-"

"No need for all of that, just give me the list." She took a look and started creating them on a table to her side. The request was simple enough. It wasn't up to the standard that Atlas's supplies were, but it'd be…

"Good enough…" Yang muttered to herself. "Fuck."

Yang pressed her eyes closed, guiding the shape of the new stretcher frames through muscle memory more than anything else. If she wasn't here… if she wasn't able to build whatever she wanted out of nothing, they would have run out of supplies long ago.

Green flames, sickly flames of destruction, licked the edges of the metal as they made… a tool for saving people. Something that would only cause harm in the same way that you could beat someone to death with anything. The flames grew hotter, spikes of iron began forming on the edges.

Not right now. Focus.

Yang tensed and pressed her eyes closed again.

She could have a crisis later, people were depending on her to keep it together.

Her fingers twitched and the spikes melted, forming normal handles.

When she opened her eyes again, the first frame had finished. She glanced back to the person Diver was inside of… Should could afford to focus on building these for a while. It would… It would be alright.

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The sun was rising soon and an additional demonic bug was at work, which meant it was time to sleep.

Blake yawned as she left the hospital from the western entrance. It was the main road the four of them would be taking until everyone they weren't supposed to see was gone.

"How does it look?" She asked, holding the door open for Weiss.

"The demons are about thirty percent more productive than I'd expected." Weiss opened her mouth as if she was going to yawn, then closed it and took a breath to push it down. "So, we're going to do better than even my best projections."

A different question was sitting at the tip of Blake's tongue. It wasn't something that would be good for just anyone to overhear. 'How many?'

Weiss took a moment, 'We'll save three thousand more than I thought.'

'That wasn't what I asked.'


Weiss frowned, looking away from her. 'Are you sure you want to know?'

'I can feel how bad it is.'
That wasn't quite right. It was more of a smell, the air was tainted with enough death that she couldn't ignore how bad it would be.

'I expect around eight thousand dead in total.'

Blake flinched and pursed her lips. "That's…"

'Incredible relative to what it could have been. We were originally expecting that many to still be alive at the end of this.'

"I know, I know." Death had permeated the city so deeply that Ruby and Yang would need to do something about it to keep their weird power system working. "It's just…"

"You wish it was more." Weiss walked up to her and leaned close, resting her head on Blake's shoulder. "We all do."

"I missed you." Blake wrapped her arms around her.

"I missed you too." Weiss returned it.

They stood there for almost a minute, holding each other and breathing in time. One of the first moments they had since the battle. Only to be interrupted by the sound of someone stepping onto the road.

"Oh, I hope I'm not interrupting," said a voice Blake thought she'd never hear again. She glanced up.

Blake opened her mouth and stammered. "M-Mom?"

"And here I thought you might not recognize me." Her mom smiled, eyes twinkling with the same sort of mischief as ever. Though, as soon as Blake took another look she could see the toll that the past few years had taken. Once upon a time, people said she'd inherited her mom's hair. What was once jet black now had long streaks of grey and even a little white. She was even standing in a slightly guarded stance, face held tight.

When Blake didn't respond, she continued. "You know, you could have just told me. I would've understood" Mom chuckled and looked away. Blake could plainly hear that it was actually her relationships and not being Anathema that mom meant.

"I- Wha?" She took a moment to think about. "You're mad about that and not-" Blake gestured to the city around them -"this?"

Mom's ears perked up and she laughed deep. "You wouldn't've realized that years ago. You've grown up so much, but no. Your father and I understand that you have to keep important things secret. Letting me know about this would've spared both of us so much embarrassment, Kaas still talks about when I tried to set you up with her boy."

"I didn't even know until Weiss and Yang…" Blake started arguing, but stopped for a moment. She stepped away and bowed her head. "Mom, this is Weiss. Weiss, this is my mom, Kali."

"A pleasure to meet you." Weiss curtsied and smiled.

Mom tightened her lips. "Well, I can't say I ever imagined that I'd meet someone like you, but-" she glanced at Blake -"you made my daughter happy, so I'll hold off on any comments about your family. You will be joining us somewhere warm if this goes any further though."

"Mom!"

"Hahaha," Mom laughed, "Good to know I can still get you."

She walked up to Blake and wrapped her in a hug. "Your father misses you too, but I shouldn't keep the two of you too long. We all need sleep and next time we'll have to talk business."

"Business?" Weiss stepped up, standing behind them. "I think you'll find I'm well versed there."

"Oh, I'm sure." Mom looked around Blake, not letting go. "We'll have a lot to talk about, Queen Consort, when it's time to figure out what the relationship between our countries kingdom's will be."

"Oh," Weiss laughed under her breath. "Do tell?"

Mom stepped back and held a hand out, "Kali Belladonna, Ambassador for the Menagerie."

Weiss shook it.

"Well, I'll leave you alone. Don't spend too much time having fun in an alley that you forget to sleep."

"Argh," Blake groaned, cheeks burning.

"Oh my, I didn't know my daughter was so daring."

Dammit Yang, Blake took a deep breath and pushed all of that down. Then hugged mom once more. "It's… Thanks mom."

She returned it, very gently. "See you tomorrow."

Mom waved to them and left. As soon as she was out of sight, Blake deflated.

"Well, that was my mom."

"She seems fun."

Blake groaned again.

"You know it'll be so much worse with Yang."

Blake shuddered at the thought. "You don't need me for the next decade, right? I can curl up into a ball and hide until they're finished?"

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Bartholomew sank into the armchair of the little house that he'd been offered as accommodations. It had been abandoned by someone who, rightfully, didn't wish to live in an Anathema cult. Given their demonstrated capabilities and willingness to use them, he knew Ruby Rose's protestations to be no more than a speck of Dust. He'd seen just how much they were trying to prevent that while aiding with the rescue. After the Anathema, he was the fastest Hunter in the city and it would be a dereliction of duty if he hadn't run his Aura dry after finishing his initial business. It also kept his mind off of what he'd seen and needed to happen.

He leaned back and massaged his forehead. It had been worse than he expected, even with Atlas's hastily provided information. Right, right finish his main task and then delve into unwrapping more of his current mystery.

He pulled his scroll out to log what was known as part of his confirmation meeting. Two main classifications of Grimm, with many sub-classifications pending a more in-depth investigation into their properties. The first, Man-o-War was clearly intelligent and able to command other Grimm in a tremendous area. It also seemed capable of influencing human emotions, information provided by Yang Xiao-Long about an earlier encounter with the creatures. That meant that many of their theories of how the Grimm functioned were potentially very wrong.

The second was the horde of small insects that seemed tailor made for tearing someone to ribbons quickly. Individually weak, but that did not matter when hundreds could drop on top of someone. Worse, both were intangible, yet able to affect things which were not. Like ghosts, the nightmares of all of humanity.

Ghastly.

That also raised the question of what other types of Grimm could perform such feats? Geists almost certainly, but those most people could still see.

Deeper study would be needed, but there was a different letter he would need to read.

Bartholomew pulled a small package out labeled "Open after you speak to The Girl in Red". Whatever it was Professor Ozpin had to say about her, he would soon know.

The letter began like many of the others, completely encoded. Thankfully, he had the key memorized at this point and quickly turned most of it into something intelligible. Most… There were some symbols that he had not received information about what they meant yet, which had to be hidden in one of the other missives.

To whom it may concern,

If you are reading this letter, then you have probably found yourself in a precarious situation, willingly I hope.

If you have not yet spoken to Glynda Goodwitch, James Ironwood, Qrow Branwen, Raven Branwen, [Person 8], [Person 11], or opened [Missive 32] and followed its instructions, then some of this is going to remain more confusing than it ought to be. I wish that this was not the case, but given the particular challenges regarding information about the person of note, I did my best to ensure information did not become corrupted.


Bartholomew sighed. His own notes and observations, regardless of whether they were digital or written down, had all fallen to some sort of data corruption at this point. As had any information in Beacon's servers. Even homework assignments were impossible to find. He did not envy Ozpin's challenge in writing down something.

During the individual's stay at Beacon, many questioned my decisions and rightly so. Due to the events revealed in [Missive 32], I believed that this person could be the savior we've been looking for. Someone who was able to take the power of the Anathema and turn it against our enemies.

These beliefs were vindicated almost immediately when both Glynda Goodwitch and Bartholomew Oobleck made strides in sorcery and reconstruction that few could make. Unfortunately, both discoveries were impractical. The Enemy's hidden defenses, spectral Grimm that no one can see or touch, thwarted the spell discovered, as they always have throughout history, and that style of armor is too draining for any besides the Anathema to wear, even if the proper power source was found.

Had they made more progress on repairing the armor and the individual proved trustworthy, I had planned to provide the source. It's stored in vault 137 underneath Beacon.


A sigh, almost a growl, escaped his lips. How many things had Professor Ozpin known about that he simply didn't think necessary to tell anyone? He's spent so many months of effort and it was meaningless! To keep that from him was… Probably quite smart. If he'd been told he would have gone digging to find out how Professor Ozpin knew and why he hadn't revealed it yet.

I had also hoped that the research into more efficient Dust engines would bear fruit. They won out over the old ways, where both left infrastructural vulnerabilities that The Enemy would exploit when most advantageous and concentrated power into fewer hands. To regress would be a travesty.

Though, you should study the principles in order to keep Beacon functional. There's an old book in my personal workshop that I've stowed behind the fourth painting from the left. It's written in proto-Valish.


That made it slightly better… maybe.

However, getting back to the point. When the other Anathema were revealed, problems arose. The first of which was Qrow's meeting where he revealed information from [Missive 32]-

Far, far too much seemed to be tied behind whatever that was, but that was also how all of Ozpin's letters had been.

- and the individual began a ritual. I have not confirmed the result of this, but from Qrow Branwen, Pyrrha Nikos, and Weiss Schnee's testimony, the goddess Mars answered it and relayed a great deal of information.

Foremost amongst which are the following:
1 - There are many more worlds out there than our own.
2 - The Anathema are the divinely ordained rulers of these worlds.
3 - The gods consider our world to be too broken to be worth the effort of fixing.
4 - While the Anathema created the Grimm, it was The Enemy who improved them to their current form(this is mostly speculation on my part).
5 - Team RWBY, if acting together, could end the threat of the Grimm within their first century of life and any member could do so by themselves within their second.
6 - One of the abilities of the Chosen of Mars is precise divination that can reveal actions that can be taken for a desired effect, limited by those actions that said individual would consider taking.

Mars also slew all of the Grimm in the region as a demonstration of what destructive potential the anathema can reach. This was the reason no Grimm attacked Beacon later that night.

It is the belief of Weiss Schnee that all Anathema are forced to act in line with the tenets of their patrons. That our world was forced into large scale conflict after these events is evidence towards her theory. However, when dealing with the individual of note, it is vital to consider the 5th and 6th points revealed.

If it were possible to end the threat of the Grimm and The Enemy within even a few decades, any idealistic person would do everything within their power to do so. Relative to the destruction that was threatened, I think we got off lucky.

The primary point of conflict, and ultimately the one which caused this, was the brutality of the Anathema investigations, Weiss Schnee's in particular. The oddities of which I believe the 6th point explains more than sufficiently. We're fortunate that this seems to take actions that the individual considers reprehensible into account.

Due to [Missive 32] it was my belief that the individual of note would be capable of using the power of Anathema to save us from the Grimm. This is the reason why I interfered with any investigations. That so much destruction was caused by this is on my head.

I can only hope that you will either be able to forge a better relationship. There are insights into the nature of our world that only this person has managed to glean. I expect that what has been discovered is merely the beginning.


If he hadn't already been sitting, that would have forced Bartholomew to collapse. What could a man even think after such a revelation? No wonder Qrow drank so much. They really had been abandoned, everyone had, with the Anathema as rulers? Oh, he had seen many ancient inscriptions asserting that, but every historian assumed that those were a cautionary tale, not a truth.

He re-read the letter twice more, just to make sure. There were so many additional questions he had… that he also would not be able to answer for quite some time. What was this power source that was inferior to Dust engines, but could make that armor run? What exactly did Ruby Rose see? What did she want? And, perhaps most importantly, just who was Professor Ozpin that he knew so much about the past?

Perhaps he would know after speaking with Qrow.

Bartholomew looked to the window and unfamiliar lights. That this new species of Grimm existed and that it could control others had been verified. Those 'spectral insects' were also verified, even if Professor Ozpin hadn't also confirmed their existence. They would perform more in depth testing when lives weren't at risk. Was this the beginning of the end for the Grimm as a whole? What would happen if Ruby took control of all of them? He supposed that she had Vale at her mercy before and didn't do anything.

At the very least, nothing in the letter told him that they had made a major mistake in making peace.
 
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Well... I guess this does show some of the problems with the system hunters used against anathema in this crossover. It worked when things were stable but mess up some important parts and try to use it to deal with abnormal circumstances and there are a lot of problems. Doctor Oobleck is trying to make this work but he's having a hard time of it it sounds like.

We also keep getting hints about Cinder having loads of toys down there... I'm sure that will totally not come to bite anyone in the ass [/sarcasm].
 
Ahahah! You can rum but you can't escape a mom!!!!

What demon yang got?

Also so happy to see more regular updates! Ty so much for that!!!!
 
Well, now it looks like the game must go into the next phase, after some downtime maybe (or not).

The other nations are no threat and neither are regular Grimm.
What is left is Cinder the Solar and whatever Salem and her mook-squad can personally do.
 
Well, now it looks like the game must go into the next phase, after some downtime maybe (or not).

The other nations are no threat and neither are regular Grimm.
What is left is Cinder the Solar and whatever Salem and her mook-squad can personally do.
You are forgoting all others exalts who are in this world, and of course the sideral will find ruby sometime....
 
You are forgoting all others exalts who are in this world, and of course the sideral will find ruby sometime....
Are there others in this world, besides maybe the very new?

There are Sidereals in heaven and other worlds, but Remnant was given up and is not in their area of interest.

Maybe after the Grimm are cleaned up, but I doubt the story goes long beyonf that.
 
There are Sidereals in heaven and other worlds, but Remnant was given up and is not in their area of interest.

It's pretty plausible that team RWBYs existence changes that dramatically. Before they were weighing whether a dying (or at least, stalemated) world was worth the resources to save and protect. Now they have to weigh whether they're okay with a potential Solaroid stronghold. Or even if they're okay with a potential Reclamation / Neverborn aligned stronghold.
 
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It's pretty plausible that team RWBYs existence changes that dramatically. Before they were weighing whether a dying (or at least, stalemated) world was worth the resources to save and protect. Now they have to weigh whether they're okay with a potential Solaroid stronghold. Or even if they're okay with a potential Reclamation / Neverborn aligned stronghold.
The gears of bureaucracy are slow to turn and they haven't payed attention to Remnant for what seems like a long time, even to the Exalted.

I don't see any outside forces intervening unless the goddesses give them a hint. And since Mars spoke of taking a century or two to bring down the Grim I doubt they will do so anytime soon.
 
The gears of bureaucracy are slow to turn and they haven't payed attention to Remnant for what seems like a long time, even to the Exalted.

I don't see any outside forces intervening unless the goddesses give them a hint. And since Mars spoke of taking a century or two to bring down the Grim I doubt they will do so anytime soon.
Didn't Mars also warn Ruby that going back to Remnant would have hunters after her? I'm also pretty sure we had at least one interlude with a sid taking down an exalted on Remnant.
 
Ghastly.

Gastly is the pokemon

Well, autocorrect also likes the pokemon. It does evolve into one of my favorites after all.

Well, now it looks like the game must go into the next phase, after some downtime maybe (or not).

The other nations are no threat and neither are regular Grimm.
What is left is Cinder the Solar and whatever Salem and her mook-squad can personally do.

The funny thing is, I moved a scene that was them discussing a bunch of that for flow reasons.

Are there others in this world, besides maybe the very new?

Those on Remnant are the very new ones.
 
Book 3 Chapter 2.5
Miracles of Ancient Wonder Book Three: Creation

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Chapter 2.5

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Weiss finished writing her list on a physical board, one of her first requests was going to be a proper holo projector, and turned back to the room. It was, perhaps, one of the oddest meetings in history.

Ruby sat next to her, but was distracted by a sketch for some sort of armor. Yang had changed into pajamas and lounged on a couch, her head in Blake's lap. Ren and Nora took one of the love seats, still in their full Hunter outfits, but so tired they too were lounging as much as they could. Pyrrha was prim and attentive in her easy chair, as much as one could be when distracted by Emerald's presence, who stood far away from everyone else. Penny almost matched Pyrrha's poise, but visibly brightened up whenever Ruby looked her way and couldn't keep herself from glancing around, which ruined the image.

The four most powerful people in the world were going to discuss what they were going to do with it and everyone looked like they were living in a dorm where 'what do we eat' and 'who invited that person' were the most pressing issues. At least the mansion they'd been given had enough bedrooms for everyone and was comfortable. That answer to the first turned out to be more poisonous berries, bits of bark, mushroom, and stones made edible by Yang. The actual food was reserved for those healing.

A simple nudge to Ruby's shoulder was enough to get the meeting going.

"Okay, things are stableish and we've all had a night's sleep. A lot of people want to talk to us, a more in depth look at this new Grimm with Doctor Oobleck, politics with the Ambassador from Menagerie, and more negotiating with Atlas. I'm taking the first with maybe help from Atlas depending on how the third goes? We're still not sure about whether they'll let Winter come. And for the second…" She looked over to Blake who slowly shook her head. "Weiss is handling the second and the third. What we need to do is figure out what we're going to tell them. So, Weiss and I put together this agenda of things to talk about and plans."

Weiss pointed to the first item: Heal/Rebuild.

"First priority, go from stable to functional. I'm gonna finish healing people and there will be a lot of funerals. We're not going to be officiating any of them formally, unless one of you wants to, but it would be good for members of team RWBY to show up when we can. Everything will be open to anyone from outside who wants to come and… while I wish everyone could be back on their feet before we make any announcements. We should say something to our people soon."

A sobering topic, but one that they needed to handle.

"Blake, do you-"

"I'll write it." She said before Ruby could finish asking.


"Thanks. Now then, a lot of our infrastructure was damaged and needs to be fixed before something bad happens related to all of the death energy building up. I'm pretty sure this'll mostly be a me and Yang job unless one of you is hiding some new Semblance." She looked right at Ren with that. He was never going to live hiding his incredibly useful Semblance down.

"Nora and I can assist with some aspects through sorcery, but I otherwise believe that is correct." Weiss added with a chorus of nods throughout the room. She placed Ruby and Yang's icons in that column on the board.

Ruby moved down to her next item, another one that Weiss expected to be non-contentious.

"Second, invisible Grimm. Right now Yang and I are the only ones who can hurt them. We need to figure out other ways." Ruby paused for the group of nods. "The two of us will help however we can, but this is going to be a Blake, Weiss, Pyrrha, and Ren task at first. Also Vale and Atlas, but I'm not sure they'll be able to get anywhere."

"Why me?" Ren asked.

"You know the most about martial arts of all of us."

"What?" He sat straight up and stared at Ruby. "That isn't even remotely true."

"To clarify," Weiss stepped in. "Ruby, Yang, and I can functionally conjure knowledge out of nowhere, but our attention needs to be focused on issues where only we will need abilities like that in order to make any progress. You may not be the most skilled fighter, but you have the most knowledge of different martial arts that isn't held up in other tasks."

"That makes more sense… I'm not sure how much I can do, but I'll try."

Weiss put Ren's symbol on first, then the others.

"I'll dream on it as soon as I don't need to know medicine or even more advanced metallurgy or weird energy flows or politics… to see if I can find anything useful, but I'm going to be running in four directions at once for a while." Ruby looked back to the board and her third issue. Weiss held her composure. She hadn't fought this one as hard as she could before.

"Third, personal defense. Something that most of us need some help with." Ruby looked around the room, meeting everyone's eyes except for Blake and Yang. "Even assuming we find a way for all of you to see the bugs and fight back, we need to make sure you aren't vulnerable. I've thought about armor designs that should work for your combat styles and involve enough shielding to keep you safe. Most are more like mine"- She rapped her knuckles on the metal breastplate. -"than Yang's, but that's also because they'll involve muscular enhancements that aren't really relevant for either her or Blake at this point. I'll need a list of requests for any side upgrades like night vision, an integrated scroll, or a chameleon system from everyone before I can get started on full designs though."

"Most armor interferes with martial arts-" Ren started speaking.

"Already thought of that, which is why yours has been ready for two weeks." Ruby grabbed one of the packages from the side and tossed it onto his lap.

Ren cringed, but still unwrapped it. Inside was a long robe that had been dyed the same color as his own along with a set of bracers and leg guards.

"The robe is silk infused with Gravity Dust, which was a pain to get the right color, so it should be small arms resistant, but the real magic comes from the other pieces. If you push your Aura into them, they'll generate a forcefield that should make you safe from the bugs. Most of the design uses Orichalcum, but the little bit of Starmetal I used in them should make this activate automatically if there's a violent intent coming at you." Ruby paused her explanation of yet another impossible design. "At least, it should do that. I'm way outside of traditional designs so I can't guarantee that feature will work. For the rest of you, any armor will just have a forcefield like that on at all times. This is probably going to be another task for me."

Everyone except for team RWBY and Penny stared at her. Eventually, ever so slowly, Nora broke the silence with a noise.

"Ahh… Are you sure that's the best use of your time? I mean, I'm not going to say no to awesome armor, but it seems like there's a lot more going on that's more important for you to do." Nora grimaced and rubbed the side of her neck.

"I can probably be of assistance with some of that to make it easier?" Penny was clearly unsure of her own answer.

"It wouldn't make sense to start these right now, but I did most of the work on each base chassis already." Ruby simply pressed on. "Once I get my factory back online it should take about three hours of each of your time for fitting and two days of mine to finish them. A week or so if it turns out I'm really wrong about your measurements and need to start from scratch. I need to be there to supervise all of my craftsmen while they build the components we need to fix the power grid, but me building those won't help on completion time that much so I can finish armor instead.

"However, there is a much larger problem. This will counter one of Salem's attacks. She's going to have more and we need as many of us to be able to respond as possible." Ruby looked at Weiss. "Starting with getting you to at least the level the rest of us were at Beacon."

The first argument that the two of them could not find a good compromise on. Weiss crossed her arms and shook her head. "I'm not the same as I was when you last saw me. I'm easily the fourth best fighter we have now and my time would be better spent figuring out this second circle of sorcery that the demons mentioned. What Salem did to Beacon must have been that because I was able to counter it with sorcerous methods."

"It's probably true that you're fourth best; you also aren't good enough. You got taken out by the bugs-"

"Which your armor is supposed to fix."

"-and can't fight the sort of threats each of us need to. You would not last against a Behemoth without support, even if your sorcery can kill it giving the time to cast."

Weiss ground her teeth. "We. Are. A. Team. We don't need everyone to be capable of fighting a Behemoth one on one right now, while we're staying in a highly fortified area together, when there are untold new capabilities possible to reach."

"What would you do if someone bombed us, right now? One of the missiles that Yang basically ignored? Or if someone hit the building with a spell like what Professor Goodwitch did to me?"

"I wouldn't get in that sort of situation within the next few weeks. Besides, I'm not a front liner and, again, you three will be around, so-"

Ruby pointed a finger at her, the sparkles in her eyes dancing with the same sort of madness that had on that night. Not as strong as it had been then, but… still there. "Even easier, could you guarantee that if I shot you, you wouldn't be hurt? You saw my fight with Mars and what she said. We can't be sure that a super Behemoth isn't just going to drop on us tomorrow. Or that she doesn't know this more advanced sorcery and also some sort of city killer spell. Which you knowing too would be helpful, but only if you can be sure you'll be alive to cast it. I learned this in, like, ten minutes. I'm sure it won't take you more than a couple of days at worst."

Weiss grit her teeth and looked at the rest of the room. Too many were avoiding her gaze, which was enough of an indictment. Something that could be fixed, but… this was part of the plan. No matter how much her own instincts were screaming at her to win the stupid argument, it was part of the plan. She should not need to be as capable as them in battle when not only her actual talents, but also her interests, lay elsewhere. All of them were going to need to break free of their current limitation though and… she could not deny that this was one of them. "Very well. I'm going to pull Blake in as my practice partner though, because neither you nor Yang's explanations make any sense."

Ruby nodded and turned back to the much more tense room. "I don't know what you can do now Pyrrha, but we should see if you can pull something like this off too."

Pyrrha licked her lips, then mutely nodded. That was perhaps the easiest sell that existed.

"Beyond that, we're not going to let something like this happen again. We lost too many people." Ruby said to another chorus of nods. "Because of my new ability to control some Grimm, we're safe from conventional Grimm attacks and without that risk"- Ruby hesitated for a moment, probably sensing just how dangerous of a topic this would be, but powered through -"we can awaken everyone's Auras and give them good armor. The same sort I'll be sending to Atl-"

"No!" Nora jumped to her feet.

"Absolutely not!" Ren jumped up at the same time.

Ruby stepped back, then forward. "It's the best way to make sure they're safe. If we ask for volunteer-"

"Volunteers from your cult?"

"I- what? That has noth-"

"It has everything to do with-"

"I've tried to stop them from doing that!"

"Really? Doesn't look like it."

"If they want to worship an evil godd-"

"Everyone, we sh-"

The room descended into arguments along entirely predictable lines. Penny and Pyrrha thought the idea had some merit, while Yang alternated between defending her sister and condemning herself as evil, but none of them were prepared for just how intense Ren and Nora were. Blake made good comments about how everyone was overreacting and Emerald avoided saying anything.

~~~

Weiss slammed a heel to the ground and brought the focus of the room to herself when the argument started becoming circuitous. "Everyone, what we're going to do about the cults is a discussion point we'd planned for later. However, thanks to this ample demonstration, I'm going to advance our final topic of discussion: Mental Contamination and what we can do about it."

'You let that happen on purpose.' Blake's accusation tore into Weiss' mind.

'I did.' Weiss replied then looked at her. "And we agreed to not do that during this meeting."

"S-Sorry." Blake looked away.

Yang's glare remained leveled at Weiss.

Weiss gave her a smirk back, then looked away from the feral smile because this would not be the sort of argument Yang wanted. "Every single one of us is suffering from some level of mental contamination that impairs our ability to make decisions. I know some of you still doubt this"- She looked at Ruby, then Emerald. -"but I think there's more than enough evidence. Speaking about this won't be easy for anyone, but we need to do it. So, shall we begin with the most obvious example?"

Yang huffed, as if there was any other option, "Hi everyone, I'm Yang and there's a demon in my head constantly shouting at me. If I'm not being an evil jackass, he gives me the world's worst migraine."

Weiss gestured at her to continue.

"And if he gets mad enough then he makes me lose the will to do anything."

Weiss didn't stop moving her hand.

Yang pursed her lips and glared back for several seconds, before relenting. "Also, I have the memories of a really old Anathema. I can use them to figure things out, but she'll take over for a bit whenever I do it so I try to ignore that part."

"Thank you." Weiss smiled at Yang. Only to receive a glare. "What happened to Yang in our fight on the docks is what happens if she doesn't act like a stereotypical villain. This is why I wasn't mad at her for picking a fight and drawing a gang of Hunters to chase us. It was do that or risk shutting down when we needed her. Next."

"I guess that's me?" Blake said with a lot of hesitation. While she wasn't technically there, that was because she had a good handle of this. "There's a general feeling of danger and unease and growing frustration in the back of my head that just keeps growing day after day."

Weiss briefly glanced towards Penny. "Those of us who've accessed Atlas' top secret research know that if she doesn't handle this, it will eventually result in her own death on top of a staggering amount of collateral damage from the buildup. Thankfully, a simple solution exists."

Blake nodded. "I can kill Grimm to lessen it."

"Because…"

"Really?" Blake looked down at the ground. "I can kill Grimm because… because Grimm count as people and whatever it is wants me to kill people."

"That…" Pyrrha said. "That may be the most disturbing thing I've heard in quite some time."

"At some point, I'd like to figure out why that is true, but that's a much lower priority, despite all of the implications." Weiss looked at Pyrrha. "And, you're next."

"Oh… I have the memories of the previous Fall Maiden along with my own." Pyrrha looked at everyone except Emerald. "I don't believe there's a risk of me losing control."

"Pyrrha."

Pyrrha clenched her jaw and looked at Emerald. Every muscle in her body tensed for a moment, then she looked back to Weiss. "I do not believe there's a risk of me losing control, no matter how strong some of these feelings are."

Weiss nodded. "For myself, I'm less certain because there is no voice in my head or easily identifiable feeling."

"You see. We don't hav-" Ruby began speaking.

"However!" Weiss cut her off. "I've noticed that I slipped and missed pieces of information that ought to have been obvious. The worst example of this is Cinder Fall. I tunnel visioned on a different goal and never reconsidered that I may have read her incorrectly or that Blake may have been incorrect about killing her.

"This was such an oversight that as soon as someone pointed it out, I couldn't help but question how I could possibly have been so foolish." Weiss sighed and turned to Ruby.

"What?" Ruby had her arms crossed. "I don't think either of us is being controlled like Blake and Yang are. There are no voices or weird shifts. If we're making mistakes, then that's our own fault."

Weiss looked back to the rest of the room, most of which were not able to say what was painfully obvious. "Ruby, you just threatened to shoot me to prove a point."

"You would've been fine! You've heard what Yang and I do for fun, right?"

"Yes, I've heard about how you try to beat each other senseless on the regular." Weiss shot Yang a look when she grinned. "Do you also do that to Blake? Who isn't some sort of battle maniac?"

"No!"

"Ahh, so it's just me, someone who you know isn't a threat to you then?"

"That's not what-"

"Err…" Yang made a noise. "Sis, I really don't want to agree with Weiss when she's being like this, but I kinda pulled the same sorta thing on Blake and being like me is never a good look."

"We're Hunters! Hunters get into fights and… Look at Uncle Qrow. I'm pretty he'd do that too!" Ruby's pitch rose as she continued.

"That's…" Yang sucked a breath in as the rest of the room shook their heads. "not helping your case. I love Uncle Qrow, but he's…"

"An alcoholic who hurts people to push them away," Weiss drew the attention back to her. "Now that that digression is over, let's return to the point. After we finally negotiated peace, you want to arm all of your people. How is that going to look to anyone else?"

"Like we're taking the threat of Salem seriously?"

"Like we're warmongers itching to build up and strike back as soon as they take the pressure off." Weiss needed to hit her hard to get through. "No one conscripts their entire population outside of the most dire of situations, which is technically what you had to do last week, but that should be the end of it."

"I… They wouldn't need to fight, just… Be able to…" Ruby didn't have an argument for that one.

"They don't need to be immune to the insect Grimm and constantly armed to be safe. I'm extrapolating from what Blake and I are going through, but I would guess that your connection to Mars is making you pursue more violent actions then are sensible for your own goals and also not back down from a fight." A brief pause. "I know this will bring up bad memories, but again, you're acting similarly to how you did before you attacked Beacon."

"You said that three days ago too and what exactly have I done except try to heal or make peace with people since then?"

Weiss didn't have much of a counter example for that point.

"Also, don't you think Mars would have told me about this influence if it was true?"

"I think that she would've told you whatever made you a more effective tool of warfare, regardless of its truth."

"How does that explain yours then? Luna making you be dumb? That sure sounds like a trickster god to me."

"I'm going to ignore the barb because it just proves my point further, but I… Actually no…" Weiss hesitated. She knew what to say, to deflect Ruby's accusation and continue to press her argument. Only Blake would know she'd done it, but… No. No. She was doing this to try and stop them from making mistakes in the future. It was time for her own bitter pill. "I'm sorry everyone. Blake called me out on what happened here and this is as much proof of my own problems as Ruby's. I'm too sure of my own cleverness and correctness, without reconsidering if there was a simpler way, a kinder way, or if I made a mistake. I could have tried harder to persuade you about this without making an example. I could have tempered the parts of your ideas that I know would be volatile and what my suspicions were. Instead, I orchestrated a scenario I expected would prove my point for me, regardless of how much it might hurt several of you in the process."

Ruby looked like she was about to say something. She kept moving her lips and raising a finger, before she deflated. "I… okay. I still don't think you're right, but… We all have blindspots so… let's pretend you are. What do we do about it?"

"Have people who we trust watch us," Weiss looked to the final two. "Let's finish going around."

Ren was frowning at her so Nora spoke. "Ren and I… We got controlled by an Anathema and a bunch of the things that she made us think are still there. It's mostly being good at training to be soldiers-" She looked right at Ruby, who had the decency to flinch.

"I'm… I'm sorry, I wasn't think-"

Ren waved his hand. "I understand wanting to keep people safe after all of this."

"This is why Ren and Nora, as both the least compromised and, also, still normal people, are going to have veto power over any major decisions we make." Weiss nodded to him, then turned to Emerald. After a moment of her not responding, Weiss sighed. "Emerald also disagrees with me about her contamination, but she's had a lot of influence from Cinder along with Salem, so I'm putting her in the same group as the non-Exalted, which once again is the proper term for Anathema."

"Wait, is that what that is?" Ruby said, staring past Emerald.

"Is that what what is?" Weiss gaped at her. She'd evidently overlooked something else bizarre that Ruby was capable of.

"Salem and shh, I'm trying to listen."

Everyone else stared at Ruby. Emerald fidgeted, tightening her crossed arms and staring at the ground. After almost a minute of waiting, she started opening her mouth and alternating between staring at Ruby or the ground. "Are you-"

"Shush!" Ruby yelled. "I'm almost done."

"With what?"

"Listening to your soul. Now shush."

That shut Emerald up long enough for Ruby to finish.

"Okay, there's something added to her soul that sounds really…" Ruby paused. "I think I need to talk to General Ironwood again. If that's what Salem's influence sounds like, then the Specialist who shot at us also works for her."

A green flash from Yang's eyes drew Weiss' attention, the wide eyed 'Oh wait' only intensified it. Yang grimaced as soon as she noticed Weiss and sucked in a breath. She mouthed 'I'm sorry'. Yet more connections sprang to mind. The two people who could work with the invisible energy surrounding them were capable of observing aspects of people's souls and the energy within them, just like the state of the art device she'd used. That made sense.

Weiss pinched the bridge of her nose and let out a slow breath through her teeth. Her team's beliefs about what information was relevant to share and when to do so was going to be a problem. It had been a problem at Beacon, it had been a problem when they were acting on their own, and it was still going to be a problem. She hadn't wasted a great deal of time trying to solve a very important challenge in their fight that already had a solution sitting right in front of her. "Let's take a quick break before we have any more revelations that completely change some of my assumptions about how the world operates and also add training so anyone else besides Ruby and Yang can figure those things out to the list."

"Umm," Penny raised her hand.

"Yes, Penny?"

"Earlier you said that Ren and Nora would be given vetoes due to being the least compromised. I believe I am actually the least compromised, so should I not receive one as well?" Penny took another piece of obvious bait that Weiss had left.

"There is another consideration about you which I do not think would be fair for me to reveal, if you're comfortable telling everyone, then we can discuss you also having veto power." Weiss flipped her hair to the side angling her fingers and wrist unnaturally for a moment, just enough to get the message across to Penny and no one else. 'Your true nature.'

'Weiss…'
No one else besides Blake, apparently.

"If you figured it out, then you understand why I did that instead of saying it out loud." Weiss rolled her head to the side and looked right down her nose at Blake, who had the decency to look away, embarrassed, at breaking their rules again.

Penny stared at her lap for a short moment, then stood up. She waved to the room. "Salutations everyone. I am Penny, aka P.E.N.N.Y." She pronounced every letter. "My full name is Perfected Emulation of Nascent Noble Yin, but I don't often use it because it takes quite some time to say, makes some of the other scientists annoyed because it does not match the project acronym, and also requires too many explanations. I am the world's first synthetic person capable of generating an Aura and a top secret project of the Atlas military."

Once more, most of the room was reduced to silence. Ruby didn't seem surprised, which made sense, and Weiss had reviewed the project files she could gain access to despite a lack of need-to-know, so she knew what to expect.

"Penny… Your real name is… how? Why? That's…" Yang looked from her, to Blake's chest, but Weiss was pretty sure it was just Yang looking away and not the normal reason.

"My father told me that it came to him in a dream, much like the rest of the information about how to construct me." Penny smiled, which did nothing for Weiss' blood pressure. That particular fact wasn't in any of the documents she'd checked.

"It sounds like the old Anathema names, like, the really old ones from back when they ruled the world." Yang said without any inflection.

"Wa-"

"Wait-"

"He did-"

Weiss could feel her left eye twitching.

The meeting was important, getting everything out in the open was important, her friends continued to not realize just how important some of what they knew was and getting it out in the open was why she'd set this up and… Was this it? Was this the feeling Yang was talking about? The headache that leads to her shutting down? It was proof that Ruby wasn't right! Wonderful, at least she was right about something!

Wait, no, if it was that sort of headache, she wouldn't be capable of realizing while in the midst of it. Had to be something else. This was simply the result of being too unprepared for curve balls. Or maybe a lack of food.

Weiss cleared her throat very loudly. "Okay then, we can discuss all that this maybe implies later. We're taking a break! No more sudden revelations. Eat food, drink whatever you want, I'll be back in five minutes with… Yang, what's the most palatable spirit you have?"

"Uhhh," Yang paused, halfway to getting up, "I think there's still some Cinnamon Flash left?"

"Where is it?"

"Why are you asking?"

Weiss narrowed her eyes.

"Under my bed, but I don't think that's-"

"Thank you." Weiss smiled as she walked towards the door. "I expect I'm going to need some before this meeting is over, which is entirely my own fault and probably karmically justified in several different ways. Because diving down the rabbit hole of how much is in each of your heads that I wish I knew about before will take far too long right now and I could really use some sort of distraction from all of it."

~~~​

"Is she all right?"

"Are any of us?" Yang shrugged and looked at the hallway to her own room where both of her partners vanished. That was not the sort of thing she'd be helpful with and Pyrrha'd cornered her as soon as their 'break' started. "I mean, a lot of it was all about how messed up we are, Weiss included."

""I…" Pyrrha sighed and leaned against the wall. "I cannot deny that, but I had thought that she, along with several others, did not suffer from this as much as we appear to."

"Weiss is really good at hiding that stuff." Yang ran her fingers through her hair and sighed. "She's been working non-stop essentially since we all got to Beacon and focusing on the heavy stuff so the rest of us don't have to. It was bound to get to her sooner or later."

Pyrrha took quite some time to think before asking, "Is there anything that we might be able to do which could help?"

"I don't know. Maybe take some of the load off? I'm not sure that's really possible for anyone except for Ruby… Who's just as bad about taking on too much." Yang glanced back to the white board of problems and her sister, who was taking Nora's armor requests and occasionally spacing out in what Yang could tell was her reading the future in some way. "We've been relying on them, but what else can we do? I'm… a brawler with a shiny crown on her head, a 'Queen' only because no one can remember Ruby and Blake refused. If Weiss had been with us, you can bet she'd have been the one picked."

"I do not believe that who we are now is all that any of us can be. From my understanding, Ruby was not wrong. All of you should be capable of some of what the others are and I do not think you could have built this city without the sort of knowledge that can help relieve Weiss."

Yang flinched. "That's all I should be."

Pyrrha frowned at her, "What else could you be?"

"Not you too," Yang ground her teeth together, "I know that this is all it should be because…"

"Because of the memories."

Yang nodded. She knew firsthand just how bad the Anathema became, even if they started completely innocent. Better to not become capable of such monstrosity in the first place… Except… the demon bug healing people… If she'd been able to learn that… Dammit! Fuck!

"I wanted to ask about those. I am not worried about being influenced right now, but they also seem like… a useful source of knowledge about what I would be capable of." Pyrrha raised a hand, lightning crackling between her fingers.

"Yeah, if I could just know how to solve things safely, it'd be a lot better." Yang walked over to a window and looked out at their city. "Hey, Pyrrha. Want to get some air?"

Yang meant that a bit more literally than Pyrrha, but since the Maiden was the only other person able to fly on her own, it just made more sense to soar. She felt the cool air against her skin, the wind whipping her hair, and the peace of being above it all. She ended above the center of the city, the main tower-tree.

"Heh, I beat you up here, but that I'm a little jealous of." Yang shouted over the sound of her beating wings. Staying in place always took a lot of effort.

"It takes a bit of focus to stay upright." Pyrrha, eyes blazing with red flames, was hovering evenly. She rotated her entire body horizontally to look down at the lights. "It's… lovely, in its own way."

"It's a spiky tower of burned iron that shoots lightning. It's badass, but I'd hardly call it pretty."

"From what little I understand, it represents hope for so many people and any hope is beautiful."

"Yeah… So, memories and power…" Yang sighed again, "I really should talk to Ren and Nora about this stuff since I'm sure they'd agree with me."

"But you aren't speaking with them."

"I… I was…" She needed to get the question out. One that only Pyrrha would probably understand. "What are yours like? Who was she?" Dammit me!

Pyrrha rotated back up, "That is not… Well, her name was Amber. She was very kind. Kind to the point where it got her in trouble. Emerald tricked her and"- Pyrrha tensed, eyes flaring, -"that cost her life."

"That… That sounds bad."

"I'm sorry." Pyrrha took a breath. "But, the feeling of being literally stabbed in the back is…"

Yang nodded, forcing the memory of betrayal back down. "It's a lot."

"What about yours?"

"She's a bitch. A monster who actually thinks that the natural state of the world is that people should worship and obey her. Someone who would take all of this and declare herself the god of everything she could conquer!" Yang could feel flames rising in her belly as she thought about it. "And… and the worst thing is…"

"That the gods support this?"

"Yes! Holy shit, yes! How fucked up is that?" Yang could not believe it when Ruby first told her, but the memories were there stating it clearly. "I've been sitting here dreading when we have to talk about all of the cult shit because it's… It's… It's the way the world works and I know it is…"

"You know what?"

"Our Auras started coming back faster when we were revealed and that's why. Being worshiped actually gives us more power." Yang practically spit the words.

Pyrrha stared at her, dumbfounded.

"I know, right?"

"So, the reason that you haven't been stopping something like this is…" She let the unspoken accusation hang in the air.

"Not that, but… it would really make everything make sense, wouldn't it? I… I saw how much happier me being here made them and didn't have the heart to make them stop.."

Pyrrha nodded. "Faith can be very powerful. Even before I saw Lady Mars herself, my belief helped me through a lot."

"Yeah, and that's… That's sort of what I wanted to ask you about…" Yang took a couple of deep breaths. "You wanted to know why I shouldn't be more, right?"

Pyrrha hesitated more a moment, then nodded. It looked like she was about to say something for a moment, the words on the tip of her tongue, then she shook her head. "Sorry, it's nothing, please continue."

"I'm pretty sure some part of my power wants me to do more with that, I can feel it. Something so close"- Yang lifted a hand up, fingers spread -" that I could grasp it if I only tried." She took another breath. "Ruby and Weiss' power comes from the gods; mine comes from the gods of Hell and… they're awful. There's a lot I could do, that I will not, because… no, just no. I need to understand them more to pull it off though and… just because something might be true, doesn't mean it's right."

"W-what do you mean?" Pyrrha waited for a moment. "What would this power do?"

"I think that it would bring me closer to being an actual goddess instead of a fake one. Someone who could… bless the people worshiping me."

"Would this take away their will?"

"Does it matter? Ren and Noira are right! If Ruby asked for volunteers to have their Auras unlocked and form an army, I'm pretty sure the entire city would say yes." To say nothing of what any of them could do if they really tried.

Pyrrha took even longer to respond. "Ren and Nora are correct about some things, but not others. I… I believe that they are too traumatized by what happened to them to be rational about any matters of faith."

Another long pause that Pyrrha broke. "If Lady Mars offered me a blessing, I would gladly take it."

"Even if it would bind you to her more?"

"Especially so." The way Pyrrha said it almost felt like its own sort of madness, but… Their family never was much of one for faith in the first place.

"You'd do that even if… Even if the reason why she could do it is, in essence, that it's the rightful place for the strong to dominate the weak?"

"Why she would be able to, does not matter." Pyrrha looked up to the stars for a moment. "Would you be helping someone with these blessings?"

"Of course!" Yang shouted." Well, as much as I thought whatever I did would. I could always check with Ruby since she's been tossing blessings out like candy."

"It… It is pointless to deny that any member of team RWBY is strong enough to dominate almost anyone they so choose and I think actively harmful for you to not help in the ways that you can. I cannot say what it feels like to be on the other side of such a relationship; Ren, Nora, and especially Blake would likely be better to ask. However… to deny yourself the ability to help many because of what you might do with the power is… foolish."

Yang thought back to the memory of Tialeth when she was young, "But she went bad so quickly."

"Isn't that what the rest of us are for? To stop that from happening?"

"Maybe.." Yang licked her lips and looked back down at the city. There were other ideas besides the tower. Maybe she could repurpose the not-awful designs that the Anathema… "I just thought of something we could do to help."

Pyrrha followed her gaze, but she wasn't looking at anything in particular. "What?"

"The Moonless Festival is coming and we don't have to worry about the Grimm."

"There will be no Great Hunt…" Because with Ruby in control of the Grimm, there was no need to go and kill Ancients when they were most vulnerable.

"And that means we can get Ruby and Weiss to take a break and celebrate." Yang looked back at the city. "We just fought off something impossible and we're charging forward like the next battle is right around the corner."

"From my understanding of observances in Atlas, you may have trouble with Weiss."

Right Atlas, cold and stodgy. "I think I'll be able to convince her. Especially if it's something that she doesn't need to handle the planning for."

"What do you have in mind?"

"Well… We should be able to buy things from other places again and we have an entire city to throw the biggest rager we can. There's plenty of space for her to have 'fine music' and dancing' and if I challenge her to draw more people to that than…" Yang looked back to Pyrrha. "A drunken fighting ring, she won't back down even if Atlas demands quiet contemplation."

"Won't that risk a lot of harm to people?"

"That's what the demon bugs are for." Yang paused for a moment to consider the words that came out of her mouth. "I mean… They're here for a month right? Everyone will be healed by then… It'd be a dick move to kill them after all of the help and there'll be work to do with fighting… So…"

"Will you be fighting in it?"

"Oh no, that wouldn't be fair, I'm the final boss." Yang grinned at her. "If anyone can take down Mistral's champion, then they get to take a swing at me."

Pyrrha frowned at her, but Yang could see the energy in her eyes. "I do not like using my own reputation for such things, but… If it will help Ruby and Weiss, then I accept."

Yang raised an eyebrow. Hook set.

"And if no one defeats me… Then the two of us will close out the final day."

Oh that would be fun.

A/N: I stared at this one for a while. It feels too long, but I also couldn't figure out what else to cut even if I'm certain that there're a bunch of things that I should. Either way, hope people enjoy.
 
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Glad to see that everyone is at least trying to work through their many issues even if they have only begun to touch on what both the Great Curse (and its analogues) as well as what the source of their power means for them. I can only hope that the Grimm counting as human for the purposes of an Abyssal Exaltation leads to a suitably horifying revelation. I wonder if/when Yang and Blake realize just who their benefactors are because labeling the Yozi the gods of hell seriously undersells them (and also dodges the question of what it means that the literal creators of the many worlds are in the states that they are in.
 
I believe that Ruby's denial is a combination of internally not wanting to believe that something outside is affecting her very thoughts (which as she's capable of thought manipulation herself is probably terrifying to her) and not wanting to blame her own actions on some outside influence as an excuse.

This delegate decisions to Ren and Nora isn't a terrible idea but has some pretty severe flaws. First, does anyone really think that Ruby in a limit break would stop and listen to Ren and Nora? Or even Weiss?

To be fair they don't know about limit breaks, but trying to be the voice of reason in that situation is about as helpful as trying to tell Yang mid-limit break to stop being depressed and do something. I suspect we're going to get another Ruby limit break before they realize that they're going to have to think of something else.
 
This delegate decisions to Ren and Nora isn't a terrible idea but has some pretty severe flaws. First, does anyone really think that Ruby in a limit break would stop and listen to Ren and Nora? Or even Weiss?

To be fair they don't know about limit breaks, but trying to be the voice of reason in that situation is about as helpful as trying to tell Yang mid-limit break to stop being depressed and do something. I suspect we're going to get another Ruby limit break before they realize that they're going to have to think of something else.

It's just giving them veto power - presumably the others are still free to support or oppose decisions normally. And it only has to hold up in cases where the influence isn't obvious. If one of them is limit breaking, the others can try to stop them, although any of Ruby, Blake, and Yang might be able to avoid the others. A limit breaking Weiss might be able to convince Ren or Nora, but probably not Blake.

I think Weiss might be acting on bad info regarding the influence being Exalted naturally has on her though. While she shouldn't have missed Cinder, there were other people who also shouldn't have missed Cinder - Pyrrha, Nora, Ren, and Jaune were all at first and second fights with Cinder too. Her missing Cinder seems more likely to be the result of some concealment or disguise charm placed on her by Salem. If she's drawing mostly on that data point she could be really off about what her own limit behavior is actually like.
 
I believe that Ruby's denial is a combination of internally not wanting to believe that something outside is affecting her very thoughts (which as she's capable of thought manipulation herself is probably terrifying to her) and not wanting to blame her own actions on some outside influence as an excuse.
Its part of Sidereal Limit actually. Unnatural confidence in their conclusions
 
So I've finally reread and caught up with the story after not really reading it since the pandemic started. Unsurprisingly, it continues to be awesome.

I know it's a little behind the current update, but I have to say that the radio protocol scene was probably one of my favorite parts of the entire story.
 
Its part of Sidereal Limit actually. Unnatural confidence in their conclusions
Ruby has long since come to acknowledge that while she still thinks the Anathema trials are immoral, the way she handled it didn't make things actually better. That doesn't really sound like someone with unnatural confidence in their conclusions. In the latest chapter she even described the situation essentially as her own mistake without trying to blame it on UMI.
 
Ruby has long since come to acknowledge that while she still thinks the Anathema trials are immoral, the way she handled it didn't make things actually better. That doesn't really sound like someone with unnatural confidence in their conclusions. In the latest chapter she even described the situation essentially as her own mistake without trying to blame it on UMI.
The Sidereal Limit is very subtle and limited when there is only one sidereal.
 
Glad to see that everyone is at least trying to work through their many issues even if they have only begun to touch on what both the Great Curse (and its analogues) as well as what the source of their power means for them.

Wonder if there is ever a situation where they meet a god (like Mars), and have them flat out deny that they are responsible.

I can only hope that the Grimm counting as human for the purposes of an Abyssal Exaltation leads to a suitably horifying revelation. I wonder if/when Yang and Blake realize just who their benefactors are because labeling the Yozi the gods of hell seriously undersells them (and also dodges the question of what it means that the literal creators of the many worlds are in the states that they are in.

It's perhaps less that the Grimm count as human, and more that monsters or not, they are still alive. Say what you will about the Neverborn, you can't call them racists. They want everyone to die, equally.

Dunno about 3E, but in 2E I think they basically needed Creation to be unmade and everything destroyed, to be able to find peace of Oblivion. They are basically Omnicidal Maniacs of the worst sort.

I will say that at this point it's a bit odd that they know so little. I mean the Primordials (and Neverborn) are a big enough a deal that Tialeth must have known a great deal about them. Likewise the Primordial War. The knowledge of how the Exalted won should honestly be common knowledge among any exalt.

You would think their true nature would have popped up in some past-life memory of Yangs by now.
 
The Sidereal Limit is very subtle and limited when there is only one sidereal.
Not really. When there is only one of them it works like the curse does for other exalts. What grouping together does is increases the amount of limit gained so lots of them might go off at once and coordinate their limit breaks allowing for teamwork in applying their limit induced obsessions. The sidereals 2ed book pointed out examples for why each castes limit break could have had them support the usurpation.
 
Book 3 Chapter 2.6
Miracles of Ancient Wonder

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Chapter 2.6

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"Are you alright?"

"Yes," Weiss lied.

Blake flattened her ears and sighed. That wasn't where they needed to start this.

"I'm more alright than most of us, but considering everything that's happened during the past few days, let alone year, I doubt any of us are particularly stable and I'm counting the non-Exalted among that," Weiss said as she rummaged through the boxes and bags under the bed. For all that she acted like a complete mess most of the time, Yang was actually much more organized than either Blake or Ruby; it didn't take long to find one of the 'good booze' boxes.

"Then why are you doing this?"

"First, I am incredibly annoyed at them and wasn't able to control my outburst. This is giving me enough time to process it and regulate." Weiss pulled the box out and considered the mostly empty bottle. "Second, if I'm being affected this badly then everyone else will need not only a break, but also some form of stress relief."

"Mmh hmm." Blake nodded, "And third?"

Weiss sighed, "Third is… that if I appear to be less in control of what's happening and breaking down, it won't feel as strange for others to. I don't think we can drink enough to hit inebriation easily, so I won't actually lose control of the meeting, but it will seem less tense."

Blake chewed on her lip for a second while Weiss kept looking. "You're sure that's what you want to do? After all of the shouting about you pulling stunts, doing another one? I think we can all handle this without excuses."

"It's hard not to." Weiss whispered and dropped her head so it rested on the side of the bed. "Just by looking at the room and thinking for a moment, I can see ways to strengthen or ease the amount of tension that everyone's feeling. If I second guessed and confirmed everything that I might conceivably do, then I would never be able to act at all."

Blake opened her mouth, but didn't respond. What could she say about that considering how much she'd already done? After far too long a wait, she laid a hand on Weiss' shoulder and crouched down to hug her. "That sounds hard."

"We're all working through it. I'm certain that there's something you can do. Something which is as intuitive as this is to me, engineering is to Ruby, or physics breaking nonsense is to Yang."

"I don't. It's all too-"

"Blake," Weiss turned so their foreheads were touching and looked up at, eyes sharp despite the shimmer of tears. "You can tell when I lie; you should turn that on yourself. I don't believe for a moment that there isn't something you realize that the rest of us are blind to. Yet another piece of knowledge that might be the key to solving all of this."

Blake grimaced and tried to turn away, but Weiss caught her chin. "I… I'm like Yang. It's all how to hurt, steal, and kill. Nothing that I should be-"

"How to steal…" Weiss cut her off with a finger on her lips. "How to transport more weight than a dedicated transport vehicle by means of something unusual."

"I just cut a rift throu…" The word was on the tip of her tongue, something she had touched but didn't know. How could you describe the absence of something… of anything? She spent several seconds trying to find the explanation when Weiss shifted and the heat creeping to her face trapped any thoughts.

"Continue."

Blake had lost the thought but… she needed to say something. Anything. "Cut a rift from here to… somewhere else and shove things through it."

Close enough.

"Is this the same way you vanish from everyone's sight?"

"Not really, that's more like…" Blake cringed. "Vanishing is like what you and Ruby do… Or maybe not… Well, it's like how people forget Ruby sort of, but not entirely…"

Weiss took a deep breath and stared in a way that forced Blake to turn away, "Think about it. What and where you interact with, how it feels and what about it isn't the same as normal life."

"I…"

Weiss waited, eyes boring into Blake's own no matter how much she knew that Weiss didn't mean to make so much pressure appear on her shoulders. There was something Weiss thought she knew that could save countless lives, but she couldn't explain any of it. A small mote, a kernel of darkness and despair formed as she failed to-

"Blake-" Weiss' voice forced its way through any other thoughts. "This is not a judgment or an admonishment. You are as talented and incredible as the rest of us. Your ability to avoid drawing on the more unethical parts of your abilities is unusual and unparalleled even within team RWBY. I doubt that anything you would be willing to do would cause any concerns."

She couldn't look at Weiss anymore.

"Explain when you know, until then I'll continue working with what I can."

How long would that work last?

Blake didn't ask the question, though it sat at the tip of her tongue.

Ruby and Weiss had taken on the burdens of the entire team. Despite how much she'd stolen, it was those two who the other Kingdoms cursed. No matter how much she'd kept track of what resources they had, she shoved the responsibility of what to do with it onto her teammates who were willing to fall on the sword.

They had a city… no, all of Remnant to care about… What could even be enough? It was too much for one person to manage. It was too much for four!

"How can we do this?" The question slipped from her lips as the other was obvious. 'who could handle so much responsibility?'

"We can do better than those who came before… No more, no less." Weiss finally pulled one of Yang's favorites from under the bed. A bottle of rum from the Menagerie.

Blake knew the brewer and what they did with the money.

A white mask with red eyes.

A blade which took the lives of those who hurt her people.

Or…

A book that convinced people they were wrong…

Was that better? Yes, it had to be.

What more could she do?

What more should she do?

~~~

Blake followed Weiss as she returned to the meeting. There was so much they still needed to decide on and no time to do so.

She took her position on the couch and looked around. Emerald was still sulking in the corner. Ren and Nora were whispering to each other loudly enough that Blake needed to try to not listen in. Penny and Ruby were talking about some engineering something. Weiss was updating the board and… Wings beats told her where Yang was right before she and Pyrrha flew back in. Yang hopped over the back of the couch, head landing on Blake's lap again.

"Have a good flight?"

Yang thought for a moment, "Yes."

Blake considered whether or not she'd have the time to question that.

"Ahem," Weiss called attention to herself right after taking a drink. "We only have so many hours left and a lot to discuss."

Penny passed a paper to Ruby and shuffled back to her chair.

"To finish our prior discussion. I nominate a veto for Penny so long as the topic is not directly related to Atlas." Weiss slid the bottle to Ruby, who picked it up, took one sniff, and passed it along.

"I…" Penny passed the bottle, pausing for a moment. "I think that is fair. I'm not able to be objective about my home."

The motion passed without issue and Ruby stepped next to the board. "Alright, so… Let's try to not have something like that happen again. Since we're going out of order, how about… Well this is in our original order, but trade policy?"

The bottle wound up in Ren's lap after Nora just took a drink from it. "Why are we determining this? Do any of us have any skill in that?"

"Weiss does." Team RWBY said simultaneously.

"I've been handling a good amount of the SDC's operations and have a proposal for what we offer to each of the kingdoms that everyone can read." Weiss pulled out the document and no one took her up on checking it.

"All in favor of this and explaining it to team veto being Weiss' problem?" Ruby started by raising her hand.

"I-" A stab of guilt made Blake pipe up. "I can try learning it to help. Have more than one person working on it too…"

"Blake and Weiss' problem then?" Ruby kept her hand raised and the rest of the room joined in.

"Great! After that is how we're going to handle relationships with the kingdoms." Ruby took a deep breath. "They're mostly not willing to talk to anyone from team RWBY directly, so"-she drew the word out for far too long-"looking for volunteers to take point on that."

"Can't the mayor do it?" Nora said.

"He can do some, but…"

"We already have other cities asking to join our kingdom." Weiss finished Ruby's statement. "We'll eventually need official ambassadors, but we don't have many people we can trust with that position just yet."

Blake watched everyone's reactions. No one was happy to take on such an important, stressful, and difficult role. Especially since they all, minus Emerald, were training to be Hunters, not diplomates.

Eventually the silence grew strong enough that someone impulsive broke. Not the best way to make a decision, though they didn't have many better ones.

"Sure, I guess!" Nora raised her hand and was swiftly voted in.

"Thanks, Nora." Ruby chuckled sheepishly and put Nora's symbol in the column. "And… next is…"

"Cinder," Weiss folded her hands in front of her and took a deep breath. "A problematic topic for many reasons."

Weiss conjured an image of her from silver light. "The woman we fought at the docks, a servant of Salem, and a Solar. She's been stuck in the basement of Beacon since we left."

"What are you proposing we do?" Ren asked.

"Well," Ruby stepped forward. "I think the safest thing would be for me and Blake to sneak in and kill her. You've all seen how fast we got better. She was already able to fight us and that's only going to get worse."

"Are you sure you can? Isn't that a huge risk?"

"Yeah, but we're going to have to at some point anyway. From looking at the future, she'll still be there in a few weeks so whatever Vale's planning to do isn't going to work. It's going to take us and… no offense, but Yang isn't exactly good at sneaking and Weiss has already lost to her. If we take her by surprise, I'm pretty sure we'll be fine."

Blake looked over at Emerald, who had decided the lights outside were more important to watch. "You don't think you could work with her too? It's just kill her because she's an enemy."

"Emerald," Weiss' voice had an edge pointed at Emerald. "Cinder has tried to kill all of us at some point and did kill both Professor Ozpin and Goodwitch. She's the enemy."

"So have I!"

"And you're still here more as a prisoner in need of deprogramming than a free person. If you had Cinder's power, you wouldn't be because we wouldn't be able to keep her contained safely."

"You could try talking to her…"

"Look, I don't like it either, but we already stepped onto this path." Ruby picked up where she'd left off. "Some Anathe- Exalted will need to be taken out, not all of them and I hope very few, but if there's any who have to be stopped is the person who's already serving Salem and has killed I don't know how many people."

"You've killed more." Emerald muttered under her breath.

"Yeah… probably…" Ruby got very quiet. "And that's something I need to live with. Now, I wish there was another way, but I couldn't find one. I'm also pretty sure that in my place Cinder would've done much worse."

Blake didn't know what she could say to that.

"Sooo…" Nora spoke up next. "Why are we talking about this then? Like, it sounds like we already know what we need to."

"Because Vale doesn't want us in their kingdom." Weiss turned the image into a map. "After the last call we have highly provisional access to Atlas, but none of the others. If we do this, then we're going to be violating another kingdom's sovereignty right after we made peace with them. It'll also mean that Ruby, who's in control of our Grimm and defense against invisible attacks, will have to leave our base vulnerable."

"So… Ruby's for and Weiss is against?"

Both nodded.

"I… I think it's probably worth-" As Nora continued ruby brightened up.

"No," Ren cut in. "They'll know who did this and we have no idea when more Grimm will appear. I'll veto this right now to save us time."

"But-" Ruby tried to start talking, then sucked in a breath. "Okay, vetoed. Off the table… I think this is going to make things worse, but… But we're going to move on. Next topic… demons."

Blake closed her eyes, ready for a very long talk that she didn't have any real opinions about besides trusting Weiss and Yang.

"Is no more an option?" Yang muttered. "The bugs did good, but…"

"There's information that we have no other sources for. I've been trying to figure out how to break into this 'second circle of sorcery' without any real luck. From one of the demons, there are tutors who could be summoned to say nothing of what calling more hands to help build would do." Weiss had another pour of the bottle. "I understand that no one here likes it, but we don't have many options."

"You trust what they tell you?" Ren shifted in his seat, the chair creaking.

"I trust what Blake can verify that they tell me."

"I don't like it."

"I didn't expect you to." Weiss paused for a moment. "But, that's not the real question. Does anyone have a good reason for us to stop or is calling on more going to be vetoed?"

"What are you going to do about the cults?"

Blake winced and Yang shifted. That was another one that would be a problem.

"Please make them stop," Ruby begged. "I've tried, but they forget it's me who said to stop worshiping me every time."

"I just found out there was one for me and don't have any particular need for it," Weiss said.

"Mmph," Blake made a couple of noises and prodded Yang's side.

"Okay, guys, I know this is a rough topic, but these are people we're talking about. We didn't come here and set up shop, they were already worshiping us and we just kind of walked into it." Yang stood up and addressed the room… Mostly Ren and Nora. "You two have a lot of damage around that and I don't blame you. Give me a chance to explain our situation though."

Neither Ren nor Nora said anything.

"First, I… need mine to not do other, worse things. That demon shouting at me will lay off after I give some sort of sermon, even if that's just telling them to go party. Will this help the others? I really don't know, but I doubt it'd hurt."

No response.

"Second, they make us stronger. My aura was coming back faster than ever and it took a long time to figure out why. It's being worshiped and I can tell there's more power sitting under the surface that I've ignored." Yang took a deep breath and looked at the window. "We've been given power by the gods and it responds to that. I think that we could do a lot of good if we accepted that instead of running."

"I… support Yang in this thought," Pyrrha hesitated slightly. "How faith is handled in different regions is vastly different, but people find their gods however they will and it brings a lot of strength to have that acknowledged."

"Also, I'm pretty sure every person we draw to us is one less who'll go to Salem." Yang dropped the other knowledge bomb that they'd been holding. "I'm not sure how much the rest of you know about the Grimm cults, but we're run into a few already."

Ren closed his eyes and sat for a while. "I want to veto this idea. I'm not capable of being objective about the top-"

"Then I will because I'm not going to be objective!" Nora jumped in. "No proshp… prophetilimina… expanding. Yang needs hers to not go crazy and I hate that. I can't just say make yourself crazy, but no, no trying to get more people in."

Yang's wings tensed like she was about to lept at Nora, but she sat back down instead. "Okay…"

"Bringing us back around to demons," Weiss called attention to herself. "My proposal is we seek knowledge with Blake, for validation; Yang, for disposal of any who prove troublesome; and one of our vetoes, to say stop in the event of an issue, present for all summonings."

A very grumbled group voted in favor and Weiss started erasing the board.

"Actually," Yang stopped them from leaving. "I have a proposal of my own."

Ruby gave her a thumbs up.

"The past month sucked. People, and I'm including all of us in this, need fun in their lives. It'll delay some of what we wanted to build, but I think we need to actually celebrate getting through this and give everyone a hope for the future. We take what resources we have, the extra food, the ruins to rebuild… all of the red and black Grimm… and throw a Moonless Festival that'll put Vale's to shame!"

Weiss sighed, "You are aware that Atlas' traditions don't call for a massive party, but instead a personal and intimate week with those who matter."

"I bet, I can get more people coming to whatever I put on than you would."

Weiss threw a withering glare at Yang, "I know that this is mostly to help your own psyche… If you and Blake join me for one night of Atlesian solitude, then I'll accept."

"Deal."

Blake let out the breath she was holding. They didn't explode.

Now there was only a ton of work to do.

~~~

"That's all of your treaty?" Kali flipped back to the first page of the agreement in front of her. It was only forty pages, seven of which were spent defining terms. "Frankly, I expected a novella."

"You'll have to wait a bit before Blake publishes one of those," Weiss Schnee smiled from across the table, teeth pointed every bit as much as many from the Menagerie. "Assuming she ever does."

"Hopefully it will be better than the books she thought I didn't know about." Kali sighed. Finding her daughter's hidden stash was something she would have loved to do in front of her. Maybe she could have them wrapped up on Blake's bed when she visited. "It will make for an easier explanation even if some of these terms are…"

She couldn't quite pick the right word for it.

"Generous?" Weiss supplied.

"No. Well, yes." Kali couldn't deny that part. "So generous that it feels like there should be a trap that I'm missing when I look through them. Like, here…"

She pointed to one of the stranger parts. A region of their choice would have an 'Essence Plant' built with an eight hundred megawatt capacity, along with inspections for how to operate it. They would come by to make repairs twice per year for ten years or in the event of emergency.

"I'm not entirely sure what this would entail even if it does sound like a very generous offer, especially considering that you're asking for only two tons of Orichalcum and Moonsilver to be delivered over those same years. While that is a hefty amount of material, it hardly compares to the price. So, I have to ask, what else are you getting out of this?"

"This would be providing a power source similar to our own, that only Ruby or Yang is truly capable of servicing at this time. We don't have many resources to offer besides information and construction that is impossible for anyone besides them to perform. While generous, there are two main reasons for the generosity.

First, and I cannot overstate this, you came to our aid in this time of need. More so than any of the other Kingdoms, the Menagerie took a risk to help and we want to reward this however we can. Secondly, we want this technology to be in other places. If you have to sell it as such, call it an investment. We're the only ones capable of it right now and I'm confident that when you see how much better this is than current power plants, you'll be asking for even more."

Kali nodded. "We were unwelcome in human lands before, we know what it's like to be left on your own."

"Regardless of the reason, you still came." Weiss paused for a moment." Though, that is something I was curious about. Everyone, even the Menagerie, has participated in hunting Anathema before. Why the change of heart?"

"I would be lying if I denied that my daughter wasn't part of it, but the reasons do go deeper." Kali took a sip of her tea, musing, "Many Faunus believe that the reason we've been so hated is that humanity fears what we're capable of. The Silver Brotherhood has done everything they can to protect 'the best of us'. They fail, but the Menagerie as a whole didn't take part in these battles as willingly as the other Kingdoms would have you believe. We know that being openly accepting would simply mean another war and the loss of our freedom, so we fight, but there's a lot that can be done to stall."

Kali chuckled to herself.

"And, since Mistral thinks we're too stupid or incompetent to succeed on our own, they handle the dangerous, dirty work for us. Their guilds are responsible for more of those hunts than my own people, even if we do supply them with information."

Weiss nodded. "Why exert the effort when they would step in no matter what you did."

"Precisely."

"We're almost certainly going to be the new refuge for that."

"And we do not have any problem with this so long as any problems are also yours to fix."

Weiss nodded again, then moved the agreement to the side. "Repairing our own damages is the least we can do."

"The least you could do?" Kali said, "Is that as the leader of a new kingdom or also as yourself."

"Both, though one is harder than the other. My family has caused a lot of hardship that will take years to fix."

Kali nodded, "You in particular are a bit of a controversy. The Brotherhood cannot agree on whether or not they should reach out to a Schnee, let alone the rest of the Menagerie."

"I'm not certain I would accept their offer if it came. I'd rather prove myself trustworthy through my own actions than the color of my Aura."

"Well said, though I'm surprised you need as much Dust as this treaty indicates. I figured that would be solved."

"My responsibilities to the SDC and my responsibilities here are separate, though, I'm also no longer as in control of the company's operations as I had been. Atlas has laws about foreign dignitaries being in leadership positions in their companies. There's also the issue of the anti-Anathema laws, but we're working on those." Weiss took a sip of her own tea.

"That's another part I'm curious about. What will change in that regard?"

"We can't control what the kingdoms will do, but we have an open offer of asylum to any who would flee them. Those who come in as criminals will be judged by us and any sentence determined based on what happened."

"And what of yourselves? Are you going to hold the damage done to get here?"

A soft laugh and the bearing of fangs, "Oh no, the actions we took while at war and those which Atlas high command did will stand without additional punishment. If someone else shows up tomorrow and replicates either Ruby's or Yang's actions, they won't stand."

Kali licked her lips, "A bit hypocritical that."

Weiss shrugged. "It's the prerogative of victory and the nature of the beast. By all accounts, we should be demanding reparations for damage done, yet instead we've made less generous offers to the other kingdoms. It will in no way pay for the lives lost and money spent, but none of that would have happened if they'd let us be in the first place."

"Very, very interesting. I'll let the Brotherhood know." Kali pushed the document aside. "But, there is something else I need to know."

Weiss raised an eyebrow.

"Just what has my daughter been up to?"

The rest of the meeting was simple gossip. She left Weiss with the names of a few books to make sure to pick up.

A/N: Barely making it in before the finish line. I had this chapter mostly ready for several months, but still aren't happy with it. Figuring out how to get out of the corners I've written myself into has been a challenge.

Certainly, ideas and plot points I'd thought up four or five years ago don't make as much sense any more. The die's been cast though and if I want to finish up my largest writing project, I might just need to trust that the characters I've build up in my mind will make progress in interesting ways.

Anyway, happy holidays all! I hope I'll be faster with the next one, but can make no promises.
 
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