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Men In Black 4: MiB International

You have a bunch of SNL alumni praise your comedic talent one time, and suddenly you're a big-time comedy actor! Who would have guessed?
 
Awww, man, I was really looking forward to the 21 Jump Street crossover.
 
Don't like the mascot, and forgot that Hemsworth doesn't always look like thor

Should be worth a watch
 
I just got back from seeing this in the theater. Some impressions, with spoilers:

  • My sister pointed out that they seemed to angling for an HxM romance in the first half of the movie, but dropped the idea in the final act, settling for a platonic relationship. Good call, I think.
  • (Also, is it just me, or am I seeing Agent M as ace?)
  • I really liked how High T's betrayal & death isn't just washed over; it fucked up Agent H. You don't just ignore something like that.
  • Speaking of betrayal, it was really difficult figuring out who the mole was. First the movie wants you to think it's H, then it wants you to think it's C. I liked that.
  • What I didn't like was the suicide crack when they introduced Pawnee (is that how you spell it?). The writers seemed to be flip-flopping during that scene, but still.
  • However, the movie was good overall, with a fairly satisfying ending. Definitely could be better, though.

Overall, decent movie, has it's problems, wouldn't watch it theaters, good otherwise.
 
Oh, I forgot we had a thread about it here.

I liked it lots, but it did some odd things WRT established lore, and also had some notable plotholes.
 
Men In Black International
The fourth movie in the Men In Black series, originally based on a series of comics. The intro in Paris in 2016 effectively sets up the film. Agents T and H interrupting the almost engaged couple was a rather good moment of humour. Agent H being absent for a moment sets up some mystery as to what happened with Agent T, effectively setting up the main plot of the film. It also provides a bookend scene for the film (see below). The artistic styling for the Paris street is also interesting (more on that below too).
Then there is Molly, who realises that the world is more than it appears after she meets an alien who looks like a plush toy, and MIB agents neuralise her parents, but not her. The sequence that follows, where she grows up and tries to find out who was responsible was rather good. A great example of characterisation. The sequence where she follows the trajectory of a spacecraft and then sneaks into MIB headquarters shows that she's determined and is great at improvisation. As she states to Agent O, she found them.
She is soon sent to the London Branch, where Agent O says there is a problem. The introduction to MIB London, is done rather well (including the arrival via Hyperloop). Agent O's introduction to Agent H (and the others) is done rather well (even if it is reminiscent of Agent J in the first film.) Then there is Agent H, the playboy agent. (Not sure what to make of that, even if he succeeds at his mission.) That he's said to have changed since he and High T saved the world (with determination and their D7 Deatomisers), just adds to the set-up.
But there is a threat on the horizon (there always seems to be). A pair of gaseous aliens who appear in Marrakesh, and some kind of Hive race. The twins may be bland as antagonists, but that may be the point. The comedy is in the interactions with the alien prince who Agent H has to chaperone (along with an exhasperated Agent M). Not sure why the prince trusts Agent M over agent H with the weapon, but there it is. At least the death scene is moving. The intrigue in MIB London as H and M go on the run with that weapon is certainly interesting.
Who is the mole? That is the question. (Is it, Agent H? High T? Agent C? At this point in the film it could have been any of them, or another agent altogether). Again, a reminder of T and H saving the world at the Eiffel Tower (with determination and their D7 Deatomisers). To Marrakesh! The introduction of Pawney seems a little on the nose. (His culture includes a concept similar to Suppuku, we get it!) At least he is helpful to Agent M (see below). The chase scene through (and above) Marrakesh, was rather good.
The scenes at the island with the intergalactic arms dealer (whom Agent H had a 'dalliance' with) were rather good (including the call back to the start of the film). Then meeting High T at the edge of the island. (A repetition of how they saved the world.) Not until they get back to the London does Agent M realise something's wrong. High T? Back to Paris! Something's happening at the Eiffel Tower. Agent M realises that something happened that night three years before. T and H didn't save the world (with determination and their D7 Deatomisers).
High T is an agent of the Hive! And H was neuralised! At least this twist came out of nowhere (although the breadcrumbs had been laid, as to what might have happened). An interesting film. 8/10.
 
It was alright. My one issue with the whole thing is that they constantly hint that Agent H has fallen far from where he used to be, but that never gets paid off and in the end, he's treated like he's still the top agent and not a drunken wreck who constantly goes off on his own without orders. It'd be interesting if they explained why he turned out this way and gave some reason for why he'd be promoted despite this.
 
VolantRedX said:
It was alright. My one issue with the whole thing is that they constantly hint that Agent H has fallen far from where he used to be, but that never gets paid off and in the end, he's treated like he's still the top agent and not a drunken wreck who constantly goes off on his own without orders. It'd be interesting if they explained why he turned out this way and gave some reason for why he'd be promoted despite this.
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The implication is that he is a top agent, which is why he knows on some level that something is off about his recollection of what happen Paris, but he can't accept that, and the bad behavior is the result.
 
krinsbez said:
The implication is that he is a top agent, which is why he knows on some level that something is off about his recollection of what happen Paris, but he can't accept that, and the bad behavior is the result.
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I guess that works. I thought the whole reveal was going to be that he was never very good, and High T simply turned him into a hero because it helped cover his tracks.
 
VolantRedX said:
I guess that works. I thought the whole reveal was going to be that he was never very good, and High T simply turned him into a hero because it helped cover his tracks.
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I figured the reveal would be that it be H that was the traitor, infected by the wedding couple and that High T was just a touch too trusting of his former partner
 
Sucal said:
I figured the reveal would be that it be H that was the traitor, infected by the wedding couple and that High T was just a touch too trusting of his former partner
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Nah, it was too obvious, and was thus a red herring.

I was figuring it would turn out to be either A: Agent O, or that the fuzzy alien M encountered as a kid had infested her with something.
 
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