Abyssal_light
Lord of the light, within thy abyss
- Location
- Coaltown
Fair enough, though I would rather not split the vote would prefer to still try for the mental protections
[M&M3e]Just let me finish my drink first!-1920s Trenchcoat Brigade Quest
- Thread starter force200
- Start date
- Original Mature Superhero Horror
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
@force200 A suggestion which I believe would cover both of these invention ideas.
Basically regular earmuffs as per Gadget Guides which have been improved with Qi to provide protection against mental damage (I'm assuming that Mental effects are common based off of the corrupt rules). Given it would only be six power points, we can pass both the design check and the construction check with a routine check. It would take thirty hours in total to make (six for Design and thirty for Construction).
6/Qi-boosted Earmuffs (Invention/Magic-Qi) : Feature 1 (+5 bonus to resist auditory attacks), Immunity 5 (Mental Damage effects)
Basically regular earmuffs as per Gadget Guides which have been improved with Qi to provide protection against mental damage (I'm assuming that Mental effects are common based off of the corrupt rules). Given it would only be six power points, we can pass both the design check and the construction check with a routine check. It would take thirty hours in total to make (six for Design and thirty for Construction).
Abyssal_light
Lord of the light, within thy abyss
- Location
- Coaltown
force200
Megaspell Technician
- Location
- Stable <data corrupted>
@Oshha Last time I checked, taking a routine check isn't allowed when creating Inventions/Artifacts. And shit is already beginning to hit the fan with all those panicing people outside, so thirty hours might be a bit too much. You have the two starting hero points in your communal pool for jurry-rigging though.
Also, I might have underestimated the time investment needed for artificing when adding it as an option to the current vote. Oops!
Also, I might have underestimated the time investment needed for artificing when adding it as an option to the current vote. Oops!
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I believe you should check again because they are allowed.
From the rules for Design Checks.
Chapter 7: Gadgets & Gear said:
From the rules on Construction Checks.
Chapter 7: Gadgets & Gear said:
And shit is already beginning to hit the fan with all those panicing people outsie, so thirty hours might be a bit much.
Also, I might have underestimated the time investment needed for artificing when adding it as an option to the current vote. Oops!
I have to admit that this information is extremely annoying. If I had known that we could only do an invention via using one of our hero points to jury rig, I would not have voted for that option and would done my best to talk other people out of doing that.
Also are you declaring this vote option has been declared invalid?
Because I want to know if the leading votes has been declared to be invalid.
Edit: I'm not trying to be rude or confrontational so apologies if I come off that way. I just want to know what is going on with the invention votes at this stage in the vote.
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force200
Megaspell Technician
- Location
- Stable <data corrupted>
Gadget Guide pages 123&125 said:
The vote is still valid. I'll handle the roll as a jurry-rigg, but wave the Hero Point cost as compensation for my screw-up.
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- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
1) Hero's Handbook is page 159.
2) Deluxe Hero's Handbook is 211.
3) Open Game Content website iis here: Gadgets & Gear – d20HeroSRD
But looking at my copy of Gadget Guides, it does directly contradict the core rules that you can't make design and construction checks as routine checks so that is definitely weird.
My stance is that I follow the core rules and allow routine checks for design and construction checks as can be seen in my quest, but if you want to follow what it says in the Gadget Guides and disallow them as being routine checks, then you can do that.
That's good to hear. I was actually going to suggest that (give a free hero point for the complication which would then be spent on the jury-rig), but I wanted to see what you would do about the vote first.
force200
Megaspell Technician
- Location
- Stable <data corrupted>
Does that sound fair?
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That sounds fair. I would recommend putting it in an informational threadmark somewhere since it is a house rule and anyone looking at the main rules isn't going to realise that it will be needed to make design and construction checks as routine.
Houserules
force200
Megaspell Technician
- Location
- Stable <data corrupted>
Here's a list of Houserules used in this quest:
The Fearless Advantage has been nerfed to:
Fearless: Every time the character has to resist a fear effect, the character rolls one aditional dieand picks the highest result. This advantage also provides immunity to fear effects with a level lower than half the character's PL and reduces the character's madness gains from fear by one.
To avoid confusion over a contradiction between two rulebooks I've implimented this houserule as a compromise:
In order to make routine checks for Inventing/Arifice/Rituals your character requires the Skill Mastery Advantage for the relevant skill.
Powers with the appropriate descriptor can inflict a point of the appropriate type of Corruption on the first failed resitance roll of the encounter as a 1 point Feature. (e.g. Poison Powers can give a point of Toxicity)
The Fearless Advantage has been nerfed to:
Fearless: Every time the character has to resist a fear effect, the character rolls one aditional dieand picks the highest result. This advantage also provides immunity to fear effects with a level lower than half the character's PL and reduces the character's madness gains from fear by one.
To avoid confusion over a contradiction between two rulebooks I've implimented this houserule as a compromise:
In order to make routine checks for Inventing/Arifice/Rituals your character requires the Skill Mastery Advantage for the relevant skill.
Powers with the appropriate descriptor can inflict a point of the appropriate type of Corruption on the first failed resitance roll of the encounter as a 1 point Feature. (e.g. Poison Powers can give a point of Toxicity)
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Faces in the Walls: Act one Scene three (15th of August 1923)
force200
Megaspell Technician
- Location
- Stable <data corrupted>
[] This void thing seems dangerous, better make a few preparations first
Before heading out to try and solve the current issue, you need a way to protect yourself from those screams.
Unfortunatly, time is of the essence, you you can't spend the rest of the day on crafting a propper talisman, so some Qi-infused bandages with scribbled on blessing covering your ears should do the trick for now. Hopefully.
With that out of the way, it's time to start dealing with the issue at hand.
How?
[] Go straight to the catacombs
[] Ask for help or information first
-[] Shin Fei
-[] One of the local Elders
-[] Someone Else? (Write-in)
[] Write-in
Jurry-Rigging the Artifact DC21
Nat 1! 3DoF. The artifact won't work, but you don't know that yet.
Nat 1! 3DoF. The artifact won't work, but you don't know that yet.
Sorry for the short update. Writer's block sucks!
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- Location
- Leeds
[X] Go straight to the catacombs
I didn't drop into a horror quest to make smart decisions.
I didn't drop into a horror quest to make smart decisions.
Abyssal_light
Lord of the light, within thy abyss
- Location
- Coaltown
[X] Go straight to the catacombs
If it can be hit by us it can be killed by us
If it can be hit by us it can be killed by us
- Location
- Dethklok
Faces in the Walls: Act one Scene four (15th of August 1923)
force200
Megaspell Technician
- Location
- Stable <data corrupted>
[] Go straight to the catacombs
Time is of the essence, so you decide to head directy to the catacombs as soon as you are finished with your preparations. Unfortunatly, you don't quite know how to get there and what little information you are able to find in your uncle's notes is woefully out of date. At least you are able to find out, that the alleyway where you first saw the face used to house one of the entrances into the undergrond that collapsed during the earthquake back in '06 and was later partially built over. It takes some more digging and puzzling out, but you are finally able to find an entrance that should still be accessible and not that far away.
With that, you head out to finally put an end to this mess.
<----TO-BE-CONTINUED----
Finding an entrance into the catcombs (Investigation DC 15)
1 DoS, entrance found.
1 DoS, entrance found.
I decided to split this one in two parts to better fit the Act X/Scene X structure on the threadmarks.