None of the complications or problems that have arisen have been a result of 'acasual nonsense' or have happened 'by complete accident'. Each incident has pretty clear explanations and reasoning as to why they've happened, between the changes to the timeline/choices Wanda's made and the motivations of the other involved characters. Nothing's happened at random.
To play devil's advocate: I think what they were driving at more is the perfect storm of misfortune that happens sometimes. Stuff like the creation of Eliza, which involves a sequence of Wanda not getting checked for a tracking chip, getting captured, the avengers all getting decoyed away while Bucky and Yelena are unavailable, Wanda returning to the tower, not knowing that Steve has a sling ring so thinking she still has to force stuff, being too drugged to fight effectively but not so drugged she can't use the mind stone, being kept out by Tony's security and being forced to interface with the mind stone astrally. Taken individually, each of these events holds up pretty well and most were established beforehand. Taken collectively, they seem... not implausible, but extremely unlucky.

Just to be clear, I like this sort of thing and I think you did a good job of setting it up. I think that the best coincidences are the ones that make problems for the protagonists, rather than resolve them, stuff like Thanos being able to hack into future-Nebula's chip in Endgame, or like Catelyn bumping into Tyrion before she's able to talk to her sister or investigate him further in ASOIAF. But I can see how someone who looks for SI's with a smoother record of wins would be turned off and feel like it's unfair.
I think if it turns out in a chapter or two that Bucky goes apeshit and Wanda actually fucked everything up again I'm going to stop reading this.
TBF, I think the chances of this are practically zero. I do anticipate a lot of strife for Wanda in the future, especially as she comes into the second infinity stone as fortold by the two of coins I think she'll be tempted to hold onto it, and that will exacerbate the tension within the team. I think that Thanos, Kaecilius, Agatha and possibly some of the eternals are going to find ways to become headaches in spite of Wanda's foreknowledge and all the preparations the Avengers are making.

But I don't foresee her healing of Bucky specifically degrading unprompted. You're right that would feel like a betrayal in all the worst ways.
 
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I think if it turns out in a chapter or two that Bucky goes apeshit and Wanda actually fucked everything up again I'm going to stop reading this. Like I don't want to "threaten" or anything if that's the way you think the story should go then sure, but it feels like a really strong possibility, like I'm almost sort of dreading reading the next couple chapters because I can see it happening and it would just be really disappointing.
And I guess it's also feedback where even if that's not where you're going, the way the story was earlier still primes me (and I think some other people) to assume the worst now.
Don't take it too harshly, I'm writing kind of a lot here and making unflattering comparisons because I'm trying to be super clear about exactly what I mean.
TBF, I think the chances of this are practically zero. I do anticipate a lot of strife for Wanda in the future, especially as she comes into the second infinity stone as fortold by the two of coins I think she'll be tempted to hold onto it, and that will exacerbate the tension within the team. I think that Thanos, Kaecilius, Agatha and possibly some of the eternals are going to find ways to become headaches in spite of Wanda's foreknowledge and all the preparations the Avengers are making.

But I don't foresee her healing of Bucky specifically degrading unprompted. You're right that would feel like a betrayal in all the worst ways.
I kind of want to take this example of Bucky and game it out a bit. Not sure if this is going to be helpful or interesting, but this is a complete breakdown of the Bucky/Winter Soldier subplot (I don't think I've missed anything):
  • Wanda's first attempt to help Bucky fails as she triggers the Winter Soldier by accident. It makes sense that she doesn't sort him out first try -- Wanda's barely even used the Mind Stone at all at this point and there have been several comments noting the difficulty of doing so without an interface, this is her first time ever going into a person's mindscape at all, and Bucky is particularly damaged.
  • Her second attempt happens pretty quickly afterward and, though Wanda doesn't really understand how to deal with the Winter Soldier more permanently, she comes up with a makeshift binding enchantment based on the bits and pieces of magic she's learning as she goes. This solution works, and keeps working for a couple of months.
  • In the interim, Wanda gets more experienced with using the Mind Stone and, among other things, successfully navigates and manipulates Yelena's mindscape to free her from the Red Room's mind control.
  • There are repeated references to Wanda and Bucky trying to gain a better understanding of his mindscape and how to come up with a permanent fix, though whatever ideas they come up with don't seem to work -- Wanda explicitly feels like they're missing something or tackling the problem from the wrong direction.
  • The Westview not-Hex happens. It's not a mindscape, but it has striking similarities to one, and interacting with not-Eliza lets Wanda realise that the Winter Soldier is not something foreign but actually just another aspect of Bucky.
  • Wanda admits she's not sure exactly what needs to be done, but has recognised the thing she was missing that was stopping her from fixing Bucky. At this point, she's much more experienced with using the Mind Stone and has fixed at least one other person before. She's very familiar with Bucky's mindscape after spending hours of subjective time inside it.
  • The attempt shows clear success, with treating the Winter Soldier as an aspect of Bucky to be worked with rather than an enemy to be defeated resulting in Bucky's mindscape revealing things that had been hidden before (the elevator, the control room) and some aspect or incarnation directly representing HYDRA's programming, as opposed to the Winter Soldier persona, is then destroyed/expelled.
  • The mindscape visibly changes, with the aspects of Bucky now working together as they escape the Facility to an indeterminate other place that is -- while indistinct -- obviously better. Once outside, Wanda sees that Bucky visibly feels the difference of not having the specter of HYDRA's programming looming over him. He's free.
Like... this is a complete story arc. There's a clear progression, with each step building on the last, difficulties that make sense that are overcome with solutions that make sense, all coming to a logical conclusion and clear end result. It would be nonsensical, completely out of left field and random for Bucky to relapse at this point.

To play devil's advocate: I think what they were driving at more is the perfect storm of misfortune that happens sometimes. Stuff like the creation of Eliza, which involves a sequence of Wanda not getting checked for a tracking chip, getting captured, the avengers all getting decoyed away while Bucky and Yelena are unavailable, Wanda returning to the tower, not knowing that Steve has a sling ring so thinking she still has to force stuff, being too drugged to fight effectively but not so drugged she can't use the mind stone, being kept out by Tony's security and being forced to interface with the mind stone astrally. Taken individually, each of these events holds up pretty well and most were established beforehand. Taken collectively, they seem... not implausible, but extremely unlucky.

Just to be clear, I like this sort of thing and I think you did a good job of setting it up, I think that the best coincidences are the ones that make problems for the protagonists, rather than resolve them, stuff like Thanos being able to hack into future-Nebula's chip in Endgame, or like Catelyn bumping into Tyrion before she's able to talk to her sister or investigate him further in ASOIAF. But I can see how someone who looks for SI's with a smoother record of wins would be turned off and feel like it's unfair.
I take your point, but I do think it's worth pointing out that Eliza is the only time where things have piled up into that sort of 'perfect storm' of consequences. It was the kick-off of major arc that lasted for about a third of the entire fic; that sort of thing isn't a regular occurrence (though something like it could conceivably happen again with the amount of things that are going on... where is Agatha, anyway?).

Most other incidents only have one or two clear causative effects that can be traced through pretty easily in even shorter chains than my breakdown of the Bucky subplot, above.
 
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I take your point, but I do think it's worth pointing out that Eliza is the only time where things have piled up into that sort of 'perfect storm' of consequences. It was the kick-off of major arc that lasted for about a third of the entire fic; that sort of thing isn't a regular occurrence (though something like it could conceivably happen again with the amount of things that are going on... where is Agatha, anyway?).

Most other incidents only have one or two clear causative effects that can be traced through pretty easily in even shorter chains than my breakdown of the Bucky subplot, above.
Well you could argue something similar happens with Agatha being able to skate through her service to Eliza wholly intact, and completely undetected, being under BARF for the fight with the sorcerers, a regular illusion for the warehouse fight (during which she's able to avoid the sorcerers), and having Wanda interrupt Scott and rely on Luis for intel instead in the aftermath. Honestly, I hope she causes some havoc, she's certainly been built up enough chapters for it.

As you can probably tell, where other people say "Wanda doesn't have enough wins, give her some love" I'm the reader going "This slice of life is boring, lets get some mayhem in here"

If Agatha has had 3x the POV's of Strucker(I haven't counted, this is a guesstimate), does that mean she'll be able to do 3x the damage or cause 3x the chaos? Gosh I hope so.
 
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It's also worth noting that Wanda's pretty deliberately making an It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia reference because she can't help herself.
Having never watched that series, that's not something I could have caught, but also, I don't think it dilutes my point - even if the character who used the line in the TV show wasn't in a bad headspace when using it (and from the look of that clip and no other information, she doesn't seem to be in a good headspace), the choice of this specific quote might well be unconsciously motivated by other factors.

I imagine I'm not the only one who'd fail to recognize that something Wanda said was a quote - if anything, that should be a frequent occurrence within the story itself. You've even had scenes where it happened, in fact, unless I'm misremembering?

In any case, if my comment was of help, I'm happy to hear it; I've been enjoying this story a lot, it's a really funny read.
 
Well you could argue something similar happens with Agatha being able to skate through her service to Eliza wholly intact...
I mean, it's hardly out of character for her, though...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8u8md-NiHM

Having never watched that series, that's not something I could have caught, but also, I don't think it dilutes my point - even if the character who used the line in the TV show wasn't in a bad headspace when using it (and from the look of that clip and no other information, she doesn't seem to be in a good headspace), the choice of this specific quote might well be unconsciously motivated by other factors.

I imagine I'm not the only one who'd fail to recognize that something Wanda said was a quote - if anything, that should be a frequent occurrence within the story itself. You've even had scenes where it happened, in fact, unless I'm misremembering?
You're exactly right, its definitely happened in the story.

In any case, if my comment was of help, I'm happy to hear it; I've been enjoying this story a lot, it's a really funny read.
I'm always glad to see your comments! It's good food for thought. When I have some brain to brain with, I might adjust the end of the chapter -- it wouldn't be the first time I've gone back and tweaked something a little after the fact.
 
Just binged the whole fic, damn you really churn these chapters out fast! Theres so many! In such a new fic! Its amazing, i hope you make sure to take care of yourself, id rather slower chapters than you suffering burnout. I cant imagine writing this much this fast was easy.

Also luis is the best <3 and i hope ned gets his moment too.
 
I didn't recognize it, either, and my first reaction was "Wanda, stop being so immature!"
Wanda being immature is entirely in character :lol:

Just binged the whole fic, damn you really churn these chapters out fast! Theres so many! In such a new fic! Its amazing, i hope you make sure to take care of yourself, id rather slower chapters than you suffering burnout. I cant imagine writing this much this fast was easy.
Welcome aboard!

This story actually began as an exercise to get me back into the habit of regularly putting words to paper (or screen, I suppose). I usually write and publish original fiction, but I fell off doing much writing around when COVID started up and just hadn't gotten back into it. I wanted to just do something purely for the sake of writing to get back into the habit, without expectations, so I decided to try my hand at some fanfic given that that meant there was no pressure around making something marketable or anything. It's now the longest thing I've ever written by a significant margin, so mission accomplished, I guess!

I am about to slow down a little due to some developments in my personal life, stepping back to my original plan of posting only one chapter a week for a while. I'm intending on putting an announcement in the Author's Note at the end of the next chapter. If I can post the next chapter on schedule, that is... I'm actually in Brisbane, Australia, and we have a big cyclone making landfall on Friday morning. I'm on the southern edge of the path, so it's likely going to be a little rough. Fingers crossed I don't lose power.
 
I'm actually in Brisbane, Australia, and we have a big cyclone making landfall on Friday morning. I'm on the southern edge of the path, so it's likely going to be a little rough. Fingers crossed I don't lose power.
Me too! I hope i dont lose power because literally all i do all day is read online :( id go crazy without it. Ive got my canned goods and filled all my water bottles just in case.

Ive been relatively prepared for emergencies since the huge floods in '22
(To all the people in other countries, Australian cities are either underwater or on fire every few years, its fine, we are used to it)
 
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Chapter 92
Chapter 92

Forcing a smile onto my face, I gave Steve and Bucky a little wave as they stepped through the portal into Nat's apartment. "Hey, guys!"

"Hey!" Steve's return smile faltered a little as he took in my red and puffy eyes. He exchanged a quick look with Bucky, and I saw their eyes narrow briefly in concern. "Everything okay?"

I sniffed, nodding, and turned away, scurrying back over to the kitchen to start laying things out for dinner.

"She's fine," Natasha said, a small, long-suffering smile on her face. The genuineness of her expression seemed to set their minds at ease, and they stood there awkwardly for a moment.

Yelena, who'd been sprawled comfortably on the couch, head on Pietro's shoulder, lifted herself up into proper sitting position and gestured toward the TV. "We were watching the Great British Bake Off while she got stuff ready," she said by way of explanation.

"She cries when the old people get voted off," Pietro added.

I stopped what I was doing to concentrate, sending bowls and sets of cutlery floating through the air toward the coffee table, carried on wisps of red chaos magic. "The old people should be allowed to stay," I responded, mumbling under my breath a little.

Nat flicked her head toward the dining chairs that had been moved over to the living room, grabbing a bottle of wine and some glasses. "Sit down. I'll get you a drink."

Less than ten minutes later, the five of us were clustered in the living room. The TV had been turned off, Steve and Bucky with their backs to it, perched on the chairs that had been moved over from the tiny dining table. Nat was curled up in the armchair in the corner, while I had squeezed onto the couch with Pietro and Yelena. The space wasn't really designed for this many people, but we made it work.

Bucky cleared his throat and everyone hushed, looking at him expectantly. He hesitated, probing the inside of his lip with his tongue for a moment. "For a long time, I didn't really have any hope," he started, then stopped again—a combination of not being entirely comfortable sharing and not really knowing what he wanted to say, I thought. After a moment, he gave an awkward little half-shrug. "Now I do. That's all." He raised his glass. "To new hope."

"To new hope." Everyone was smiling as we repeated it and clinked our glasses together, toasting Bucky's new lease on life.

"Are you crying again?" Yelena said, a note of disbelief in her tone.

"Shut up," I told her, poking her in the ribs with my elbow. Even though Bucky hadn't really said much, my face had grown hot, wetness welling in the corners of my eyes. Stupid emotions.

Bucky grinned, looking at me. "To Wanda," he added, lifting his glass again. "Thank you."

"That is not helping," I laughed, scrubbing furiously at my face with my free hand as everyone cheers-ed again.

Despite being elbow-to-elbow on the couch, with everyone squashed in, it still didn't feel uncomfortable as we tucked into our food. Conversation drifted in easy waves as we ate, touching on half-remembered missions, bad movie plots, and me describing Yelena's first attempt at baking cookies ("The recipe lied," she insisted). It was just… nice. Like we were just one big family. At one point, I realised I couldn't stop smiling, and the realisation made me smile even more.

After everyone was mostly done, Steve leaned back in his chair and let out a sigh, a satisfied look on his face. "That was great, Wanda. Thank you. Really."

"There's leftovers," I said, gesturing toward the fridge. "I made a double batch. You can take some back to the compound with you—have it tomorrow. Just chuck it in the microwave."

"Thanks." He nodded.

Pietro's brow had creased. "Wanda? Your magic causes microwave radiation, right?"

Where had that come from? "Uh, yeah."

"Does that mean you're sort of microwaving people a little bit when you use your magic on them?"

"I kind of wish you hadn't said that," Bucky said mildly, a small smile tweaking the corner of his mouth.

Natasha chuckled and leaned forward a little, shaking her head. "It's just variances in CMB. Background radiation. It's everywhere normally anyway. Don't worry, she hasn't been microwaving your brain."

"Actually," I said, one finger tracing the rim of my bowl. "I'm pretty sure that, since CMB is everywhere, we're all being microwaved all of the time. Just a little bit."

It was Yelena's turn to screw up her face. "That's… I don't like that."

Steve smiled. "Does make sense, though."

"That's what I don't like about it!" Yelena said with a snort.

There were some chuckles, then a lull in the conversation. After a moment, Steve leaned forward again. "So what's this all really about, Wanda?" he asked, catching me off-guard a little. "You wanted to talk about something?"

"What do you mean? We're celebrating." Feeling a brief flare of annoyance, I shot a vaguely reproachful look in Natasha's direction, but she just rolled her eyes and shook her head.

"Nat didn't say anything," Bucky interjected, reaching forward to put his empty bowl on the table. "But you didn't invite us here for dinner for no reason. If it was just to cook and eat and celebrate, you'd have done it at the compound."

"Okay. Yes. I may have lured you here under false pretences." Steve nodded, waiting for me to continue. I hesitated, tapping at the edge of my bowl with my fingernails for a moment, then sighed. "Honestly, I'm starting to feel a little restless. Waiting for Kaecilius to strike has been stressful—we've got that well in hand now, I think, but it feels like he paralysed us, and he's not even one of the bigger threats."

"There's something you want to do," Bucky guessed, catching on quickly. "But it involves sharing some information that you don't feel comfortable airing in front of… everyone." As he'd spoken, he'd glanced around at the others, clearly noting exactly who was here—basically, it was a gathering of the people I trusted the most.

I nodded. "We've got two other major things to worry about, beyond Special K."

"Thanos and the Celestials," Nat supplied.

"Yeah. When it comes to Thanos, I think we're well on track. Last we checked, Carol still hadn't had any luck tracking down the Guardians of the Galaxy but space is a really big place and we've got plenty of time. Thor took word of Thanos' plot to Asgard, and once he's back we can hopefully count on them for support, too. But when it comes to the Celestials…"

Pietro grunted. "Thor's been gone for more than two months and we haven't heard anything."

"Space is a really big place," Steve said, echoing my words back at me.

"Yeah, I know. It's just…" I shrugged helplessly. "Going to Omnipotence City to petition the Celestials there was always just a shot in the dark, anyway. We don't really know anything about the Celestial pantheon or how the ones at the City are even related to Arishem. Thanos can be defeated conventionally, but we don't really even have a plan to deal with the Emergence yet. I want to start laying some groundwork for the future, rather than just sitting on my thumbs waiting for something to happen."

"What are you proposing?" he asked.

"I'm not asking for permission here, but it'd be stupid to do this completely on my own. I was thinking of trying to—carefully—approach some of the Eternals." Steve went to say something and I hurried cut him off, trying to get everything out before he made any assumptions about what I was intending to do, here. "Look, I'm not trying to be divisive, or ask you to go behind anyone's backs. I just… Tony might get ideas about the Eternals, and for the most part they're good people just trying to live their lives. I don't want to jeopardise that any more than we absolutely have to."

Nat leaned forward a little, catching Steve's eye. "Wanda just wants to make an initial approach. Do a little outreach and try to cultivate some initial friendly relationships that we can leverage in future, if we do need to ask them to help. Nothing extreme. Nothing risky."

"Right," I confirmed. "I'm not talking about making any plans about how to deal with the Emergence without everyone else."

Steve glanced at Bucky, his forehead creased slightly, then looked down at the table and thought about it for a moment before he spoke. "I'm not going to tell you not to," he said finally, looking back up at me. "You haven't told us much about the Eternals beyond the fact that they exist—what are your options?"

I shrugged. "I actually already have a specific approach in mind, but we should probably go over the full who's who, just in case—they're sort of all over the place. They each have a unique power, too, in addition to just generally being superhuman across the board."

"You'd mentioned that they fought each other in your visions, right?" Natasha asked. "Some wanted to stop the Emergence, some wanted it to go ahead?"

"Most wanted to stop it, in the end, but they really had to talk it through to get to that point."

Yelena had settled in quietly as we spoke, listening and watching but obviously not keen to insert herself into the conversation. She tucked her feet up under herself on the couch, almost kicking me, and was leaning against my brother's shoulder again. I got the feeling that she was doing it in a mildly bratty attempt to annoy me, but ignored her.

"Do they have a leader?" Bucky asked.

I nodded. "A woman named Ajak. She… uh. I think her power is healing? I didn't see much of her before she died. Even though the Eternals don't really see each other much these days, the rest of them have a lot of respect for her."

"Sounds like she's a pretty key player to get on friendly terms with, then. What side was she on?" Steve asked.

"She died before there were sides, but her deciding that humanity was worth saving is sort of what kicked things off. Which is interesting, since she was the only one who'd known about the Emergence and everything the entire time."

"What made her change her mind?"

"Uh, well, remember that thing where half the universe got destroyed and the Avengers brought it back?" I asked, making a bit of a face. "That was what convinced her."

Bucky winced. "Woman has high standards."

"Yeah. No idea what it'd take, now."

"Who else?" Pietro prodded.

I fished out my phone and tapped at the screen a few times before holding it up, a movie poster displayed on the screen.

"It's a… Bollywood movie?" Steve asked doubtfully.

"Yep. Kingo. He's been in Bollywood forever, just re-debuting as his own son every so often. Basically just loves being famous. He was on the fence about stopping the Emergence, didn't want to pick a side. Can shoot energy blasts from his hands."

"Kingo's an Eternal?" Nat sounded a bit flabbergasted. "Huh."

"Yep. Who else? Um, Phastos is their tech guy. Makes devices out of energy. He's married to a human; they live in Chicago somewhere. He sort of gave up on humanity as a general concept after Hiroshima and Nagasaki." Steve frowned as I said that. "I really don't want to disturb them if we don't have to. Then there's Makkari. She's fast," I said, glancing over at Pietro. "Faster than you."

He made a small noise of surprise, looking interested. "Really?"

"Keeps to herself. Lives in their spaceship, which is in the Middle East somewhere. She helped stop the Emergence, but I doubt we'd be able to talk to her. She's flighty. Druig is…" Actually, if I told Steve what Druig's deal was, would he want to go and try to do something about the Eternal's little mind control cult? Best to keep quiet about that bit for now. "He split with the other Eternals after a disagreement. Lives in the Amazon jungle as a hermit. Tried to stop the Emergence. I'm not keen to speak to him—he's anti-social and has mind control powers."

"Mind control?" Bucky asked. "Like what you can do, or…?"

I let out a small snort. "Druig makes what I can do look like a parlour trick. Casual mass control over large areas." A few people exchanged concerned looks at that revelation. "Like I said, better to leave that one be. Um. Who else? Sersi became the de facto leader after Ajak died. Inorganic matter transmutation. I don't know where she is now, but in a decade's time she was working in a museum in London and living with another Eternal, Sprite. Sprite can basically create BARF-grade illusions on demand as her power, but she allied with Ikaris."

"And Ikaris is…?" Bucky asked leadingly.

"Ikaris is the main reason we really want to be careful about how we engage with the Eternals. He's the strongest, the most dangerous, and he was committed to the Emergence to the point that he murdered Ajak for doubting it. He's essentially got the full Superman package." Referencing Superman while I was literally standing in the MCU felt a little weird, but I'd looked and DC Comics were just as much of a thing here as they had been in the universe my other memories were from. "Highest physicals, flight, eye beams… he's tough. I really don't want to provoke him. We're probably going to have to fight him eventually, but I'd prefer not to try without Thor and Carol here, just to make sure."

Steve blinked. "That strong?" He sounded a little surprised. It made sense—the only other enemy I'd ever spoken of in such terms was Thanos.

"That strong," I confirmed. "I don't know where he spends most of his time, but he visits a few of the others pretty regularly. I think he spends a lot of time with Ajak. Sersi is his ex, so he keeps an eye on her, even though I don't think she's actually seen him in a while. If we want to avoid him, we should avoid them."

"So what did you have in mind, then?" Bucky asked. "They all sound like they have downsides. Kingo?"

I laughed. "No, not Kingo. Too unreliable and I don't know what level of contact he has with Ikaris and the others. There are two more: Thena and Gilgamesh. They're good people. They were fully on board with stopping the Emergence right away, practically."

Nat perked up, looking at me curiously. "When you say 'Gilgamesh', does that mean…?"

"Yeah, The Epic of Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh. Big and strong, can reinforce his fists even further to hit extra hard. Thena's their most technically skilled fighter. She can form weapons out of energy." I paused, biting my thumb absently. "Thena's not well. She's got a type of mental degeneration that can make her violent. Gil volunteered to look after her. They live in the middle of the Outback, alone. They still get visitors, occasionally, but less often."

"Mental degeneration?" Steve asked.

"They call it Mahd Wy'ry," I said, trying not to wince at the dumb-sounding name. "She relives memories from one of her past lives that were locked away by Arishem."

"I think I see where this is going," Bucky said thoughtfully.

Steve was on the same page, too. "You want to help her."

I nodded. "If they'll let me try, yeah. She's a weird cosmic space robot rather than a human, so obviously no guarantees, but," I shot Bucky a brief smile, "I do feel like I'm getting pretty good at fixing people's heads, at this point. The Celestials were the first wielders of the Infinity Stones. I don't know why they don't care about the Stones anymore—maybe they grew beyond the need for them—but their cosmic power is in the same wheelhouse. I think the Mind Stone should work just fine on the Eternals."

Natasha looked at Steve, giving him a small nod. "Thena and Gilgamesh are a little bit more isolated from the other Eternals, they're likely to be in favour of stopping the Emergence once they know the truth, and we have a potential route to building an immediate, strong positive relationship with them," she reiterated. "I think it's worth reaching out."

"I'm convinced," he said, raising his hands in mock surrender. "When?"

"We were thinking the day after tomorrow. Midnight-ish so it's late afternoon there. Nat and Pietro were already going to join me, but I was wondering—if you're free, did you want to come, too?" I asked, looking at Steve hopefully.

"We don't want to crowd them," Nat added. "But they should know who the Avengers are—if not Pietro and Wanda—and you've got a good reputation. Plus, if they have reservations, you could talk through what Wanda did for Bucky."

Steve nodded and I felt a twinge of relief, my shoulders relaxing slightly. The Avengers weren't so controlling of their members that they had to report back on every little thing that came up, of course, but when it came down to it, I wasn't an Avenger, even if some of them did consider me to be part of the team. Natasha had reassured me that Steve would be supportive, but I'd still been a little worried that he'd make a Thing out of it.

There were still risks involved with going to see Thena and Gilgamesh, of course, but they were relatively minor. We definitely wouldn't be telling them the truth about Arishem or the Emergence, so even if the absolute worst-case scenario happened and Ikaris happened to show up, at most he'd be a little suspicious. When it came right down to it, even if we ended up not needing the help of the Eternals to stop the Emergence, helping Thena was something that had been vaguely on my list of things to do basically since we'd escaped from HYDRA. It was always good to make new friends, and the Eternals could make for powerful allies.



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A Note From The Author

Hey, all! I mentioned a few months ago that my cat has been unwell, and I recently got some bad news about my little buddy's long-term prognosis and that plus general life issues has forced me to slow down on writing a fair bit. Accordingly, I'm going to be dropping down to posting just one chapter a week, instead of two. Apologies. I'm not sure when or if I'll be going back to two chapters a week, but I'll be doing my best in the interim. Thanks for reading!

Also: I'm located in Brisbane, Australia, which is just about to get hit by Tropical Cyclone Alfred, so here's hoping I don't get blown away!
 
Got the chapter out before the BIG storm tonight! Lets all hope we all have power tomorrow. Itd suck to have throw out all my frozen curry if the freezer loses power for too long.
 
"Yep. Who else? Um, Phastos is their tech guy. Makes devices out of energy. He's married to a human; they live in Chicago somewhere. He sort of gave up on humanity as a general concept after Hiroshima and Nagasaki." Steve frowned as I said that. "I really don't want to disturb them if we don't have to. Then there's Makkari. She's fast," I said, glancing over at Pietro. "Faster than you."

He made a small noise of surprise, looking interested. "Really?"

"Keeps to herself. Lives in their spaceship, which is in the Middle East somewhere. She helped stop the Emergence, but I doubt we'd be able to talk to her. She's flighty. Druig is…" Actually, if I told Steve what Druig's deal was, would he want to go and try to do something about the Eternal's little mind control cult? Best to keep quiet about that bit for now. "He split with the other Eternals after a disagreement. Lives in the Amazon jungle as a hermit. Tried to stop the Emergence. I'm not keen to speak to him—he's anti-social and has mind control powers."

"Mind control?" Bucky asked. "Like what you can do, or…?"

I let out a small snort. "Druig makes what I can do look like a parlour trick. Casual mass control over large areas." A few people exchanged concerned looks at that revelation. "Like I said, better to leave that one be. Um. Who else? Sersi became the de facto leader after Ajak died. Inorganic matter transmutation. I don't know where she is now, but in a decade's time she was working in a museum in London and living with another Eternal, Sprite. Sprite can basically create BARF-grade illusions on demand as her power, but she allied with Ikaris."
Dang she really forgot a lot from the Eternals huh, those explanations are missing a fair bit of detail.

Phastos is cool because as much as he's happily retired and really wouldn't be up for designing more weapons, he'd probably be one of the best if they could somehow talk him into helping, given how he was able to design the uni-mind in a matter of days. He could quite conceivably figure out some way to supercharge the space stone to displace Tiamut from the earth or build Wanda a kickass interface for the mind stone if he were so inclined.

Druig is really interesting, because I got the sense the director was going for a humanist angle to him. The whole conversation with Sersi where he's like "that makes them us" and talking about how he originally left planning to mind control a lot more people much more aggressively before realizing that it's our flaws that make us human. I get the sense that he's a lighter touch with the mind control in his amishesque commune thing during their regular day to day than it seemed like in the scenes we got. Although OTOH, he didn't balk very hard at making Kingo's valet smash his camera, so I can see it both ways.
 
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Dang she really forgot a lot from the Eternals huh, those explanations are missing a fair bit of detail.
She's just giving broad strokes as an overview. "Makkari is very fast and flighty, so even though we might get her on-side it'd be difficult to even talk to her", "Sprite can do illusions and sided with the bad guys", "Druig is anti-social and has mind control powers. I don't think talking to him is a good idea", etc, is really all that's needed at this point. She might give some further details off-screen, we don't really need hundreds of words of Wanda describing each of the Eternals.

She would, of course, be giving a more fulsome briefing if she was proposing having any interaction at all with them (and will, in future, should they decide they need to approach them), but as far as Wanda is concerned the other Eternals are Sir-Not-Appearing-In-This-Fic at this point.

Phastos is cool because as much as he's happily retired and really wouldn't be up for designing more weapons, he'd probably be one of the best if they could somehow talk him into helping, given how he was able to design the uni-mind in a matter of days. He could quite conceivably figure out some way to supercharge the space stone to displace Tiamut from the earth or build Wanda a kickass interface for the mind stone if he were so inclined.
Trying to get Phastos on-side is definitely high on the priority list if they can't come up with another way to deal with the Emergence, but judging from the scenes where the Eternals go to collect him I think Phastos might have an extremely negative reaction to the Avengers showing up at his house to ask him for help.

"It was wrong of me to use my powers without thinking about the consequences in the first place, so now I choose to use my hands to fix my child's bicycle, okay? I don't use my powers anymore." Phastos has the most to lose, of all of the Eternals. Wanda isn't keen to disturb his domestic life if she can possibly avoid it.

Druig is really interesting, because I got the sense the director was going for a humanist angle to him. The whole conversation with Sersi where he's like "that makes them us" and talking about how he originally left planning to mind control a lot more people much more aggressively before realizing that it's our flaws that make us human. I get the sense that he's a lighter touch with the mind control in his amishesque commune thing during their regular day to day than it seemed like in the scenes we got. Although OTOH, he didn't balk very hard at making Kingo's valet smash his camera, so I can see it both ways.
In that conversation with Sersi, Druig says he almost decided to go ahead and mind control the entire planet to stop all conflict (Sersi only asks him why he didn't, which implies she thinks it'd be within his ability to do). Druig is scary.

Wanda's also got vague context that Druig is a villain in the comics, which makes her doubly wary of him.
 
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In that conversation with Sersi, Druig says he almost decided to go ahead and mind control the entire planet to stop all conflict (Sersi only asks him why he didn't, which implies she thinks it'd be within his ability to do). Druig is scary.

Wanda's also got vague context that Druig is a villain in the comics, which makes her doubly wary of him.

And then he goes on to fumble Sabrina Carpenter. Really no reason to speak to him
 
Sprite can do illusions and sided with the bad guys"
Speaking of, her illusions can do sound too right? Unlike BARF? I vaguely remember her doing fireworks once.
Trying to get Phastos on-side is definitely high on the priority list if they can't come up with another way to deal with the Emergence, but judging from the scenes where the Eternals go to collect him I think Phastos might have an extremely negative reaction to the Avengers showing up at his house to ask him for help.

"It was wrong of me to use my powers without thinking about the consequences in the first place, so now I choose to use my hands to fix my child's bicycle, okay? I don't use my powers anymore." Phastos has the most to lose, of all of the Eternals. Wanda isn't keen to disturb his domestic life if she can possibly avoid it.
Yeah, he's probably not inclined to think highly of them given how they're soldiers and former arms manufacturers. OTOH, the whole argument of 'I wanna be able to see my kid grow up' still holds just as true, so it's not totally inconceivable that his husband would talk him into it the same way assuming the Avengers are even able to get that far.
In that conversation with Sersi, Druig says he almost decided to go ahead and mind control the entire planet to stop all conflict (Sersi only asks him why he didn't, which implies she thinks it'd be within his ability to do). Druig is scary.

Wanda's also got vague context that Druig is a villain in the comics, which makes her doubly wary of him.
Oh yeah, he's scary as all heck, but come present day he's a bit kinder than his overly sinister demeanor and powers make him out to be. Though I think that Sersi asking him why he didn't is more because that's the part she cares about. She's going to him to try to get him to control a celestial, she knows he's not weak. It's Kingo who tells him "you know you're not a god, right"
 
Speaking of, her illusions can do sound too right? Unlike BARF? I vaguely remember her doing fireworks once.
Sprite can do sound, yeah, but so can BARF -- they're called "speakers" :p It'd have been really weird if Quentin Beck's very public fights with the Elementals were silent.

It's Kingo who tells him "you know you're not a god, right"
I do find this little bit of dialog interesting, because it contrasts starkly with the multiple times Thena is referred to as a goddess. Even when she's in the middle of a Mahd Wy'ry attack and Sprite is using illusions to remind her of who she is, she calls her a goddess. It's never "you were worshipped as a goddess" or "they believed you were a goddess", either -- the other Eternals always say she is Thena, Goddess of War. It's especially interesting because none of the other Eternals are referred to in similar terms.

It could (and in the canon context of the films, probably is intended to) still be metaphorical, but...

This ties into the discussion I've had on the worldbuilding thread over on SB about the nature of cosmic energy and such.
 
I do find this little bit of dialog interesting, because it contrasts starkly with the multiple times Thena is referred to as a goddess. Even when she's in the middle of a Mahd Wy'ry attack and Sprite is using illusions to remind her of who she is, she calls her a goddess. It's never "you were worshipped as a goddess" or "they believed you were a goddess", either -- the other Eternals always say she is Thena, Goddess of War. It's especially interesting because none of the other Eternals are referred to in similar terms.

It could (and in the canon context of the films, probably is intended to) still be metaphorical, but...

Eh, the Thor movies basically flip-flop on this every other movie. I'm willing to chalk this up to a writing artifact that got missed in draft editing.
 
Eh, the Thor movies basically flip-flop on this every other movie. I'm willing to chalk this up to a writing artifact that got missed in draft editing.
I don't really think it was flip-flopping. There was a single big change that retconned the way the entire established MCU was treating the supernatural/magical side of things, and Eternals came well after this change was established.

The first two Thor movies were made back when the MCU had decided that "gods" were just advanced aliens and that "magic" is just sufficiently advanced sci-fi high technology. Odin explicitly tells Thor that they are not gods in the first movie.

However, by the time Thor: Ragnarök rolled around (post-Doctor Strange), there had been an overall change in how they were handling magic and such, so they retconned it so that they actually are gods, to the point where a vision of Odin reminding what Thor he's the god of is a central turning point of Thor's character arc in the movie. As far as I can tell, someone being called a god is pretty consistently intended to be literal from Ragnarök onwards.
 
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It could (and in the canon context of the films, probably is intended to) still be metaphorical, but...
Yeah, I think that within the eternals film itself, which is done by Chloe Zhao rather than Waititi it's definitely meant to be metaphorical. Zhao isn't really concerned with the idea of divinity as a power level, but rather divinity as a guiding force/moral authority.

Indeed, much of the film is devoted to the existential crisis that the various eternals have when they discover that their 'divinely' ordained mission and purpose for life for which they were created by god Arishem was a lie and how they each go about deciding their own purpose in the wake of that revelation. I think that a fairly large part of Ikaris' mentality is that he denies his own personhood and agency and self conceptualizes as an extension/instrument of Arishem, to serve his place in god's divine plan.

I only really recall Thena being referred to as a goddess once, and it's while Sprite is trying to calm her down. Taken absent from the rest of the MCU, I think the intent behind that from Zhao is referring to how Thena was worshiped. When Kingo explicitly tells Druig "You're not a god, you know that right?" it's in the context of Druig controlling his valet and talking about how humanity is doomed to destroy themselves. Kingo is rejecting the idea that Druig's power gives him the right to do that sort of thing or makes him somehow superior.

On another level. I'm not sure how much the Eternals know about space and divinity in general. Beyond whatever memories from "Olympia" they had implanted in their heads they seem to have spent pretty much all of their seven thousand years on Earth talking and spending time with people who knew even less than them. They're probably generally aware that space is populated and they seem to have some specific knowledge pertaining to celestials, but I doubt anyone sat down and explained to them "you know, there actually is an official universal definition for what does or doesn't constitute a god and is therefore allowed into the divine social club."

I'd probably handwave any inconsistencies between the films that way, by saying that the Eternals don't know what a god is, or what infinity stones are, or a lot of other stuff that might be better known by people like Thor.
 
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I only really recall Thena being referred to as a goddess once, and it's while Sprite is trying to calm her down.
There are three times that Thena's referred to as a goddess. The last reference is the weakest, but that one you reference for Sprite -- imo, at least -- is very strong when taken in full context. Sprite makes five statements in rapid succession to ground Thena and remind her of her own identity, four of which are definitely intended as literal.

Sprite: "We came to Earth together on our ship. You're an Eternal. The greatest warrior of Olympia. The legendary protector of Athens. The goddess of war."

Thena: "What if I hurt you again?"
Gilgamesh: "Come on. You
know who you are. You're Thena, goddess of war."

Jack: "So, Dad said you're the goddess Athena."
Thena: "Thena. Drop the A."


I'd probably handwave any inconsistencies between the films that way, by saying that the Eternals don't know what a god is, or what infinity stones are, or a lot of other stuff that might be better known by people like Thor.
I'd be really surprised if they didn't know what gods are -- they literally fought alongside Odin, after all. Sersi also explicitly calls Tiamut a god (which we know is true about all Celestials).

And even though they don't know the truth about what they are, they know about Celestials and the Infinity Stones were known to be tools of the Celestials, so I don't think it's much of a stretch to guess that they'd know about them.


EDIT: As I noted earlier, I do think it's probably intended in the canon of the movie (Chloe Zhao's intent, as you note) that it's metaphorical, but I think there's enough there that you could do something with it and still be basically canon-compliant.
 
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There are three times that Thena's referred to as a goddess. The last reference is the weakest, but that one you reference for Sprite -- imo, at least -- is very strong when taken in full context. Sprite makes five statements in rapid succession to ground Thena and remind her of her own identity, four of which are definitely intended as literal.
But then in the same vein, we have Kingo explicitly denying and rejecting Druig's divinity, so take from that what you will.
I'd be really surprised if they didn't know what gods are -- they literally fought alongside Odin, after all. Sersi also explicitly calls Tiamut a god (which we know is true about all Celestials).
Is fighting with Odin a comic thing? I only remember a vague reference to Kingo knowing Thor when the latter was a child. Calling a celestial a god is just good sense, they're planet sized beings that create stars and stuff. They're godlike in every sense of the word.
And even though they don't know the truth about what they are, they know about Celestials and the Infinity Stones were known to be tools of the Celestials, so I don't think it's much of a stretch to guess that they'd know about them.

EDIT: As I noted earlier, I do think it's probably intended in the canon of the movie (Chloe Zhao's intent, as you note) that it's metaphorical, but I think there's enough there that you could do something with it and still be basically canon-compliant.
Yeah, I agree, I think there's enough here that you could feasibly take it in either direction both w.r.t. knowledge of divinity and knowledge of the stones while remaining relatively canonical.
 
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