Not a single federation remnant survived in the canon timeline. If we know about thirty of them and 0% will survive then what's the point? We should still have the maps of which systems were human owned, and why would we care if they descended to techno-barbarism in M23 or M27?
Keeping to the Dream: A Warhammer Age of Strife Quest
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Not a single federation remnant survived in the canon timeline. If we know about thirty of them and 0% will survive then what's the point? We should still have the maps of which systems were human owned, and why would we care if they descended to techno-barbarism in M23 or M27?
Personally I want 2 dice on WASUS for finding surviving intact human polities and handing them as much tech as possible before the turn 6 wap storms. This way friendly federation remnants have a higher chance of surviving to the M30.
Do you have quote that says they didn't that just take the risks? Maybe rangdan don't just value lives of individual people.
Either borders remain largely unchanged due to warp storms and galaxy is largely in a sort of stasis, or species like Rangdan can freely expand and galaxy is in a state of change. Pick one those options.
Federation remnant does not necessarily mean a successor to the Federation like us. It can be just friendly, progressive and relatively advanced human polity. A sector or a world which people and goverment remember the fall and would still like to be part of a larger human federation
As if there won't be intermittent check ups to keep information as current as possible.
It's almost as if you're painting choices you're against in the most terrible light.
This quest is different from cannon. Luna has not fallen and may have created a new race. Tau did not fall and is a polity with dozens of core worlds and 6 carrier groups of first line federation ships. Really people surviving g is going to be up to dice rolls. Also there were plenty of human remnants not exactly federation ones. There is the possibility of Albedo becoming a god and giving scrap rolls to all the federation.
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Ok first that is spot on for this quest.QM has discovered memes.
second when are you going to roll for Centaurus? Because I will offer my sister dog that I do not like as sacrifce.
third I also just noticed that there is most likely a lot of human augments at Hawking. That will be another contentious point with the Admech.
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10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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My sister has 2 dogs one I like and the other keeps getting into the garbage.
As for human sacrifice that a maybe for me since I do dislike my neighbor who has turned stay at home to throw parties every other day.
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Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
Was wondering when soulcake would infect you.
mouli
Terrible QM
- Location
- United States
Wokay, so I have a writeup for the diplo, but also two scenarios in mind from a table should you want to see more detail. Do you want them tonight and the looting tomorrow, or everything tomorrow? The issue is that work has piled on a fair bit and backgrounding it is taking time, so offering the option of voting seems the thing to do.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
Everything tomorrow. Measure twice, cut once.
What every is easiest for you. Not that I do not want to see the rolls but don't work to hard on this.
Dutch
Bored Spearman of the Wind
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- CET
Go with what works better for you. Though if you lack an opinion, I'd echo Always Late.
Would this be Centaurus or those other two remnants we passed? A sneak peak of the rolls (if any) could be nice to build up hype, or would allow you to feed on our despair for a bit. GMs need to do that once in a while.
Would this be Centaurus or those other two remnants we passed? A sneak peak of the rolls (if any) could be nice to build up hype, or would allow you to feed on our despair for a bit. GMs need to do that once in a while.
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mouli
Terrible QM
- Location
- United States
For that, you get something.
[Rolled from table: 54, 84: Dead world, Psyker-ruled world: Scenarios Triggered: The Dead Laid to Rest; No Gods, No Magi, No Masters]
Your 'remnants' on the other two stops.
Well we knew some psykers ruled worlds after the fall. So unless the psyker is offering us something amazing we should just go on. I do not think it will have the power to get passed our improved geller fields.
Did we loot the dead world?
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Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
... well shit. The opposition to the Psyker is an anarchistic slave revolt.
See I thought it was a Bioshock reference. You know a psyker Jack Ryan or Andrew Ryan if you will. But may I suggest a alternative in that the Psyker is the anarchist.
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Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
I mean, it is. But it's also derived from this. And since it specifies the Psyker rules the world and the slogan says "No Magi", the anarchist movement is also for genociding the psyker ruling class.
Oh my god are we going to have to have the ethical choice of keeping a dictator in power for gains, or helping the anarchist seize power and gain nothing.
Alternate Quest Pilot: Sector Creation V: A Symphony of Chrome and Flesh (+5 to Psyker Stability Turn 5)
NeonLights
Formerly Reliable_2IC
- Location
- In shambles
NEGAVERSE: SOL SYSTEM START
Sector Creation End: A Symphony of Chrome and Flesh
Machine forces penetrate the Solar Line, Home Fleet pushes them back. Casualties heavy among the Fleet and on Centaurus, Senate debates further use of strategic weapons.
- The Atlantic Daily News, article hosted on the Cygnic Cypress Report ~096.M21
"We have stable warp-vortices flaring up on multiple worlds, and we can't contain the resulting radiation nor the beings that pour out."
"What happened to that line of fleet vessels with the anti-psyker bombardment cannons?"
"Too few ships, too many flashpoints, and almost no stable warp routes."
"Then the decision has been made already. What's the verdict then?"
"Intensify FISA enforcement and harden our hearts."
"How bad is it going to be?"
"There's been proposals for the suspension of human rights and the deployment of SOE assets against Federal citizens.
- Excerpt from the minutes of the Federal Council of Stars, ~128.M21
"You have your orders, and you will execute them."
"With all due respect sir, this order is unlawful. How many crimes is this even committing?"
"We've received Emergency Authorization from the Secretary of Defense, it's fine."
"It's not, it's unconscionable that this is even happening."
"I don't give a damn what you think of it, we're the only ones who can stop them."
- Argument between SOE commandos prior to deployment on Mars, ~130.M21
"So it turns out the speculations are right. There really are intelligent beings on the other side of the Veil."
"Should we push that up the chain? I'm not sure this won't be leaked"
"Gods above, no! If the cults learned that all an instant army took was human sacrifice, the Federation would collapse in a day."
- Conversation between Joint Task Force 76 "Scent Hounds" commanders, after the Doom of Nesorus ~198.M21
"The SSA is proud to announce the creation of the Mark Five Positronic AI and attendant systems. It is superior to the Mark Three in nearly every aspect, and we stand confident in it's future performance."
- Press release from Federal Special Scientific Authority, ~216.M21
"The Machines authorized another strategic weapon release, we've lost another Core World."
"Then we have no choice but to support this Operation Samson that's been making the rounds."
- From the minutes of the Federal Admiralty Board, ~231.M21
"The various Machine cultist clades have started to intensify their operations against opposing neo-humanists, with the first confirmed assault of a Core World by hijacked Federal Navy vessels. This is in response to earlier aggression on their seat of power Mars, in which open conflict has intensified despite the efforts of authorities."
- From the host of the podcast Unholy Wars, ~241.M21
"Destabilization confirmed, the star is ejecting mass as we speak. Shoot, I snuff out any more sunshine and they'll post me at an orphanage!"
- Unknown Admiral, Task Force [CLASSFIED] ~242.M21
"I feel it! I FEEL IT GROWING WITHIN ME! IT'S TIME! WITNESS THE FRUITFUL BLESSINGS OF MY GOD!"
- Anonymous rioter in Plutionian Orbit ~455.M21
"We have a blue-on-blue situation on our hands. Hail them again, this is clearly is mistake!"
"Between scramblers and jammers and no responses, they've closed themselves off."
"This is all too sudden. You think it's Machine subversion?"
"98% chance."
"Then we can't afford to show mercy."
- Exchange between unknown Fleet Admirals during the Sol Fratricide
"This is Sol System Defense Command to all Federation forces, requesting reinforcements at Naval Fleet Station Temerity, confirmed contact with Machine recon elements."
- Encrypted message sent from Sol Defense Command, ~560.M21
"It's done, we've sent it all out."
"So this is the end."
"I'm afraid so."
- Exchange between Chancellor Janice Gerasimov and Secretary of Defense Kemal Akyildiz prior to the Storming of the Senate, ~583.M21
Despite our triumphs, despite our efforts, despite our sacrifices; we've failed. The Federation which we have given our all to has fallen. Our people are divided, split apart by division and the Warp. Earth, the birthplace of mankind, lies wracked with ruin and strife. But where others have fled to places safer in the wake of disaster, your duty is here. The front line for the soul of mankind. Other may claim to carry the torch, that they are the best hope for mankind, but they are wrong. Fate's strings twirl and weave, and they all intersect at the crossroad here; Sol.Sector Creation End: A Symphony of Chrome and Flesh
[ ] Plan Not a Filthy Casual
-[ ] Control
-[ ] IF ONLY
-[ ] SUBSIDIES
-[ ] Moderate
-[ ] Naval Base
-[ ] Machines
-[ ] Sol
-[ ] Control
-[ ] IF ONLY
-[ ] SUBSIDIES
-[ ] Moderate
-[ ] Naval Base
-[ ] Machines
-[ ] Sol
Machine forces penetrate the Solar Line, Home Fleet pushes them back. Casualties heavy among the Fleet and on Centaurus, Senate debates further use of strategic weapons.
- The Atlantic Daily News, article hosted on the Cygnic Cypress Report ~096.M21
"We have stable warp-vortices flaring up on multiple worlds, and we can't contain the resulting radiation nor the beings that pour out."
"What happened to that line of fleet vessels with the anti-psyker bombardment cannons?"
"Too few ships, too many flashpoints, and almost no stable warp routes."
"Then the decision has been made already. What's the verdict then?"
"Intensify FISA enforcement and harden our hearts."
"How bad is it going to be?"
"There's been proposals for the suspension of human rights and the deployment of SOE assets against Federal citizens.
- Excerpt from the minutes of the Federal Council of Stars, ~128.M21
"You have your orders, and you will execute them."
"With all due respect sir, this order is unlawful. How many crimes is this even committing?"
"We've received Emergency Authorization from the Secretary of Defense, it's fine."
"It's not, it's unconscionable that this is even happening."
"I don't give a damn what you think of it, we're the only ones who can stop them."
- Argument between SOE commandos prior to deployment on Mars, ~130.M21
"So it turns out the speculations are right. There really are intelligent beings on the other side of the Veil."
"Should we push that up the chain? I'm not sure this won't be leaked"
"Gods above, no! If the cults learned that all an instant army took was human sacrifice, the Federation would collapse in a day."
- Conversation between Joint Task Force 76 "Scent Hounds" commanders, after the Doom of Nesorus ~198.M21
"The SSA is proud to announce the creation of the Mark Five Positronic AI and attendant systems. It is superior to the Mark Three in nearly every aspect, and we stand confident in it's future performance."
- Press release from Federal Special Scientific Authority, ~216.M21
"The Machines authorized another strategic weapon release, we've lost another Core World."
"Then we have no choice but to support this Operation Samson that's been making the rounds."
- From the minutes of the Federal Admiralty Board, ~231.M21
"The various Machine cultist clades have started to intensify their operations against opposing neo-humanists, with the first confirmed assault of a Core World by hijacked Federal Navy vessels. This is in response to earlier aggression on their seat of power Mars, in which open conflict has intensified despite the efforts of authorities."
- From the host of the podcast Unholy Wars, ~241.M21
"Destabilization confirmed, the star is ejecting mass as we speak. Shoot, I snuff out any more sunshine and they'll post me at an orphanage!"
- Unknown Admiral, Task Force [CLASSFIED] ~242.M21
"I feel it! I FEEL IT GROWING WITHIN ME! IT'S TIME! WITNESS THE FRUITFUL BLESSINGS OF MY GOD!"
- Anonymous rioter in Plutionian Orbit ~455.M21
"We have a blue-on-blue situation on our hands. Hail them again, this is clearly is mistake!"
"Between scramblers and jammers and no responses, they've closed themselves off."
"This is all too sudden. You think it's Machine subversion?"
"98% chance."
"Then we can't afford to show mercy."
- Exchange between unknown Fleet Admirals during the Sol Fratricide
"This is Sol System Defense Command to all Federation forces, requesting reinforcements at Naval Fleet Station Temerity, confirmed contact with Machine recon elements."
- Encrypted message sent from Sol Defense Command, ~560.M21
"It's done, we've sent it all out."
"So this is the end."
"I'm afraid so."
- Exchange between Chancellor Janice Gerasimov and Secretary of Defense Kemal Akyildiz prior to the Storming of the Senate, ~583.M21
But you aren't the only one who knows the importance of this place. There are many who oppose you; some for a goal, some for an ideology, some for grand designs beyond mortal ken. Each will be a challenging foe, possessed of strange powers and exotic weapons.
Yet failure is not an option here, for the future of mankind depends on you.
Good night and good luck, and fight for those who no longer can.
A/N: A fleet fit for Sol was meant to be an somewhat of an exaggeration, but Sol was chosen and I won't go back on my word. I'll have the synergies, the difficulty choices, and the boons out as soon as I can format them properly. Which is harder than it sounds.
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Dutch
Bored Spearman of the Wind
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- CET
Unless that earlier roll was just to see if we found something special, the dead world was probably the 20ish roll and the psyker world the 50ish.
The dead world might have something in the rubble. And I doubt the Psyker world got to this point unscathed, one doesn't really peacefully get a psyker upper class in the Core. In the CS Arm, maybe, but not here (except maybe in a religious bastion, but those were mostly in the Arm IIRC).
For our expedition to meaningfully incluence the situation, they'd also have to have regressed quite a bit. I'd say move on or help the revolt / move against the Psykers depending on the situation.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Why do you I think you've got the best plan so far:
Unless there's somehow a light to this crock of 256th grade flying bovine excrement, that's none of our business.
I do not think Mouli would give us a vote unless there was something for us to gain. Or some deep moral choice so he can revel in the drama.
the reason I think they will have something of value for us is that they are a core world. The most advance tech and center of industry was in the core. Also Mouli would not give us a vote unless we had something to gain.
mouli
Terrible QM
- Location
- United States
Brilliant.
....make a thread and run it. you know you want to...
In all seriousness I'd be willing to lend a hand if you did.
Dutch
Bored Spearman of the Wind
- Location
- CET
They might have some weird stuff, maybe psyker related. But if we're in a position to influence to situation with our limited third-line expedition and ground forces, something clearly has gone wrong already. That means we could meaningfully effect the balance of power or have things to trade that they don't have.
Either way. I'm currently not inclined to aid the psykers, given the naming of the encounter.