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Kathy's Brockton Bay Adventures (Worm/Tinker of Fiction)

Make an interlude chapter to show the aftermath of the fight like what happened to Bonesaw?

  • Yes, interlude please.

    Votes: 59 93.7%

  • No, show me later.

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .
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Hi, @Hydralisk ! I just wanted to say this is a very cool fic... that I'm now watching, in case you ever feel up to continuing it. :3

famfrit said:
it's disappointing to me because it seemed like he was undergoing character growth and building up to take a stand because it's the right thing to do only to 180 and quietly go all in with what he knows is wrong.
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Hydralisk said:
I do see the way you look at it, I personaly see it from a differnt view point however.
Armsmaster looks at this and sees that Kathy is trying to help and is also helping him and everyone else. He considers her good, if a little twisted in a way he couldn't quite grasp. Until she revealed the origin on the Endbringers.
Now his choices are, either fight them on Kathy and at best, get reasigned to the other side of the states, or at worst, locked away 'for his own good'.
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For what it's worth, that's entirely how it read to me, between his internal naration, and the choices he made during the fight like:
  • not using the nanothorn when Kathy was locked in confoam at point-blank range, but instead use his thrusters (not purpose-designed weapons) to send her away and cook the confoam off her armor ;
  • engaging with the rushed halbeard, instead of the exotic cannon built into the "Challenger" ;
  • having a little chat after she blew Alexandria up, and clearly signalling when it was over, rather than try a sneak attack.
All in all, it read to me like he wasn't actually doing his best to take Kathy down no matter the cost, but that he couldn't look like he was obviously going against orders at best.

Hydralisk said:
But none of those would help him in his main goal, to be a hero, the fact that Kathy is willing to play the Villain to be the hero in this situation hits him harder then he cares to admit, so his struggle to do the right thing is crossed with his inability to see what the right things is.

So he default to what he knows best. And that is to fight problems. This is made worse when Kathy wants him to fight her.
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Interesting, I hadn't even considered that his need to be (seen as) a hero, was conflicting with his moral compass: he tried to prevent the situation in the first place, found his politics-fu is too weak, so the next best thing was making sure the capture op goes down without lasting damage to anyone (though property damage is a different thing altogether)

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Xared said:
Like even if Katty didn't try to kill them a single mistake in that fight would have erased the whole area
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Yeah, that is something to consider when capes are concerned, but compared to average hookwolf brawl? This was safer.
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This was only "safer" because they were banking on Kathy's (and her team's) unwillingness to cause collateral damage, though.

Hydralisk said:
Xared said:
Do wonder how they will spin this to the public, without Katty they have to take responsibility for their fkup and i don't see them being honest about it
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Deny everything as hard as they can and say how she is the second comming of Bonesaw. Then someone will anonymously leak the footage of the fight from the drone perspective. Then its damage controll, nedless to say, prt hands will be to full to try anything again for a while.
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Indeed, Lucy is the cape watcher, and the recording she has actually lasts the whole fight. Lucy is a good drone pilot.
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Yeap, and the people who pushed for the ambush can only bullshit their way out, as long as they entirely control the information circulating in the media: as soon as a recording of the fight goes out, it becomes obvious they chose to ambush a powerful parahuman in the middle of a city. The only way they can defend that decision, is arguing they were very certain Kathy would hold back not to cause collateral damage, which only makes them look worse.

Whoever leaked the ambush to Lucy & co. made sure the PRT can't get away with trying to paint Kathy as a vilain... and I'd bet it was Armsmaster; Assault seems very plausible as well based on his canon personality, but I don't recall him being particularly present in the story so far.

If footage of the fight against Echidna appears as well (say, from Kathy's own armor, her team's, or any other tinker) it only gets worse for the PRT better:
  • showing how capable Kitten-Tinker is, would both underline how much she was holding back, and the sheer stupidity of assaulting her out of costume, in a crowded city, as they shouldn't want to turn her hostile ;
  • Alexandria would be shown to be entirely in the wrong :
    • KT's only "crime" was to go save more people during an S-class catastrophe ;
    • that didn't violate the truce, at least as far as cannon goes:
      • No attacking people who volunteer, irrespective of grudges.
      • No taking advantage of an attack for personal gain or to advance your faction.
      • No setting up others to die.
    • if anything, Alexandria could be said to have violated it, in addition to violating the Unwritten Rules by ambushing Kathy out of costume:
      • taking advantage of the Echidna emergency to posture and politically set up a latter attack on Kathy ;
      • repeatedly framing disobedience as "violating the truce" or "S-class threat," which is arguably an immediate form of attack.
Though I'm sort of hoping that once the shitstorm is properly going, someone blows the whistle on the conspiracy at the beginning: the one with Armsmaster, Miss Militia working with Brandish to get more information while presenting herself as Kathy's legal counsel, and keeping her locked up even when they didn't have any charges to press.
Not only is it incredibly illegal and would likely see Brandish disbarred, as far as I understand, but it would really show that the PRT was out for her from the very beginning, and not about to let the law or Kathy's innocence stand in the way ; bonus points if Pigot's orders to make KT "no longer her problem" come out as well, considering all she did at the time was heal the victims of Coil's bombs.

PS: I really enjoy that Kitten-Tinker abbreviates to KT, which reads like Kathy =^.^=
 
I've read this story up to Boston arc a few years ago and it turned out to be memorable enough so that eventually I came to check for updates. So, I came and began rereading, and all was fine. Not perfect, but enjoyable. Until the Boston arc. It's like an entirely different person wrote everything after. Everything I liked about the story - just gone. The story development vector, the mood, the style.



I guess it's not the first, not the last, but I am sad now. It isn't often that a story remembered after multiple years gets ruined for me so completely.
 
I would also like a link on that supposed reboot since all I know about is the quest, and that on is on pause because of personal reasons. 🧐

And yes I agree, the problems the story suffered in the end where to much for me to bear as well. The Echidna fight was supposed to connect the next arc which I tentativly called the Brockton Bay War, but that also killed my interest in it. I am working on and off on a reboot idea, but until I find a better way to actually connect the arcs I have planed, without Echidna, i am not even thinking about posting it.
 
Xared said:
So out of curiosity if the reboot does happen would the tech tree be planned ahead or rolled as the story goes?
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Planned, also a lot of trees I didn't want to use originaly want to use like World of Darkness and Starcraft. Also after a lot of back and forth with friends and myself a lot of things would be changed starting with the very start of the story and Kathys ambitions as a person.
 
Hydralisk said:
Planned, also a lot of trees I didn't want to use originaly want to use like World of Darkness and Starcraft. Also after a lot of back and forth with friends and myself a lot of things would be changed starting with the very start of the story and Kathys ambitions as a person.
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Nice WoD and Starcraft were amazing on Nuclear Fire and honestly having an outline for the whole story is better and more predictable than Randomly Rolling every tech tree it make all too complicated and add too much difficulty to write the Story

That say yeah Kathy character Arc and a lot of interactions got skipped or derailed hard by the elements of harmony It would be interesting to see how all would go without them
 
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Hydralisk said:
I would also like a link on that supposed reboot since all I know about is the quest, and that on is on pause because of personal reasons. 🧐

And yes I agree, the problems the story suffered in the end where to much for me to bear as well. The Echidna fight was supposed to connect the next arc which I tentativly called the Brockton Bay War, but that also killed my interest in it. I am working on and off on a reboot idea, but until I find a better way to actually connect the arcs I have planed, without Echidna, i am not even thinking about posting it.
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Do you mean reboot from the start or just he last arc?
IMO better start a new fic if the former.
 
Really sad this hasn't been updated in a year or so, but man was this a ride. Truly a work of art with great pacing, I hope to one day see the PRTs reaction to the orokin tower
 
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