Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom

[Mechasaurian]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/jurassic-world-2/2018-release-date-chris-pratt/

Dinosaurfans/Chris Pratt fans: it's time to get excited.

Universal has announced that the sequel to Colin Trevorrow's blockbuster Jurassic World, and the next instalment in the Jurassic Park franchise, will be released on June 22 2015.

Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard will reprise their roles as Velociraptor trainer Owen and operations manager Claire – although, given the way Jurassic World ended, they may have had to slightly re-think their careers. Unless the Masrani Corporation's has an absolutely out-of-this-world PR department, it seems unlikely that the theme park where the pair worked will still be open.

Trevorrow and Derek Connolly, who wrote Jurassic World, will write the script for the sequel, and Trevorrow and Steven Spielberg will executive produce. But few other details about the film have been confirmed.

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http://www.slashfilm.com/jurassic-world-sequel/

Jurassic World dominated the box office, becomingthe third largest grossing movie of all time and having the #1 global opening of all-time. And now Universal Pictures has announced that a Jurassic World sequel will hit theaters in 2018. Find out more, after the jump.


Jurassic World director Colin Trevorrow has said that he won't be back in the director's chair, but he is returning to write the screenplay for the sequel with his writing partner Derek Connolly. As you know, Chris Pratt is already signed on for any inevitable Jurassic World sequels, as is Bryce Dallas Howard. Universal Pictures has dated Jurassic Park 5, or Jurassic World 2, or the yet-to-be-titled Jurassic World sequel, for June 22nd 2018. Steven Spielberg will executive produce through his Amblin Entertainment banner.



We have a lot of clues as to what Jurassic World 2 might be about and who might be involved, and Colin Trevorrow and producer Frank Marshall have shared with us some teases as to what might be next. A director has yet to be announced, but in my interview with Trevorrow from earlier in the Summer, the filmmaker commented that its "part of my job is to try and identify someone" to replace him as a successor to helm the Jurassic World sequel.

Here is what Trevorrow said about how his film, Jurassic World, might set up the future of the series:


It's somewhat a plot based setup for the future. And that matters to a certain extent. But if we hadn't done that, you could easily manufacture that. You know, in a second film. So I find it actually the least functional setup for the future of everything that we do. There are themes and ideas in here that we're setting up, such as the coexistence of these animals on the planet with humans. In the same way that we exist with animals now. And imagine a world where just like, you know, don't go into that jungle, there's tigers in there. They're gonna eat you. Just replace that with raptors. And I think we set up ideas in here. One of them, the one we address the most is the weaponization of dinosaurs and the fact that animals have been used in war for centuries. And there are people with completely bonkers ideas that are always gonna step in and wonder how else we can utilize a new technology. And also in this there was a line in the movie that I cut. And sometimes I wonder if I should have, but I needed the scene to move in a certain way. But there was a line where Doctor Wu says to Irrfan Khan or B.D. Wong says to Irrfan Khan, you know, how long do you think you're gonna be able to control her? We won't always be the only ones who can make a dinosaur. And that idea to me has a lot of potential in it that like nuclear power there could be a something that goes open source and there could be many entities who might have this ability to create these things and use them for various needs and purposes. So there's potential in there. For something.

We will update you with more information on the Jurassic World sequel when we get it. Until then, check out this article where our writer Ethan Anderton theorizes on what the Jurassic World sequel could be about plot-wise or maybe take a look at some of the Jurassic World easter eggs and references you might have missed in the film.

As a big fan of Jurassic World, this is exciting news. I hope the story somehow involves the theme park again and not some dinosaur-zed military operation. It would be easy to go in that direction and title the sequel Jurassic War, but does anyone really want to see that story? Although, I'm not sure a plausible story reason could be invented as to why this park would possibly reopen to the public after an incident of that magnitude.

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Jurassic World having been a financial success, the Hollywood machine has already begun to grind out a sequel.

The highlights:

• The release date is 22 June, 2018
• Steven Spielberg will be executive producer once again
• Colin Trevorrow won't direct World 2 as he did World, but he will be writing the screen play
• A director has not yet been selected

Hints as to the plotline:

• Other companies getting in on the Dinosaur-engineering action, either through Nedry-style corporate espionage or through creating their own dinosaurs. Taking bets on Biosyn?
• Dinosaurs escaping into the wild and successfully surviving there, as happened at the end of the JP book.
• Militarized Dinosaur arms race?
• "Open source" Dinosaur creation (whatever the hell that means)?

As something of a paleo-nerd, I have but one fervent hope.

Please, please update the dinosaurs to our modern understanding of them.

Spoiler: Feathered raptors

Spoiler: Therizinosaurus

Jurassic Park was awesome very largely because it utilized cutting-edge paleontology for the time and revolutionized the public perception of dinosaurs.

Infuriatingly, Jurassic World passed up the opportunity to do the same and went with portrayals more than a decade out of date.

Still, perhaps there's hope. Perhaps the next one won't be by-the-numbers schlock like World was. Perhaps the folks in Hollywood will take some perceived risks for the sake of a better reception and a movie that can truly do the JP franchise justice...

Nah, who am I kidding.

At least give us a better human cast this time?

Anyway...discuss, SV! Discuss! Let the speculation and the snark commence!

 

[serra2]

The release date is 22 June, 2015

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So the sequel released a month ago? Neat!

Jurassic Park was awesome very largely because it utilized cutting-edge paleontology for the time and revolutionized the public perception of dinosaurs.

Infuriatingly, Jurassic World passed up the opportunity to do the same and went with portrayals more than a decade out of date.

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They may be out-of-date, but they are still insanely more recognizable than the pictures that you posted. Which was part of the point of Jurassic World, that these are not actual dinosaurs as they once appeared, but market tested design animals to draw in park goers.

 

[Mechasaurian]

So the sequel released a month ago? Neat!



They may be out-of-date, but they are still insanely more recognizable than the pictures that you posted. Which was part of the point of Jurassic World, that these are not actual dinosaurs as they once appeared, but market tested design animals to draw in park goers.

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Derp. Must be tired or something. Fixing.

Must be tired. Looking back over this it looks like 2018 is the closest thing to "release date" we have.

How do I edit the thread title, anyway?

 

[Side Item]

Must be tired. Looking back over this it looks like 2018 is the closest thing to "release date" we have.

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The second article you linked to lists the release date as June 22, 2018. The first one just has a typo.

Also, if you haven't, I highly recommend you use TOTALLY LEGITIMATE METHODS to read the script for the hypothetical Jurassic Park 4 they were planning on before going with Jurassic World. It is next level bonkers/the logical next step for the franchise.

Here's some concept art they released in the mid-2000's


And here's a story summary if you don't want to track down the script, stolen from another forum-

Spoiler: Script Summary

So I've been sitting on this for a few months now, but after some searching (and reddit sleuthing), I finally managed to get my hands on a copy of one of Jurassic Park 4's original scripts, written by John Sayles (who also wrote the classic werewolf flick *The Howling*). This was something I've been curious about since the mid 2000's when I read about it onaintitcool.com . At the time, I thought it was crazy and unbelievable that such a thing would be up for consideration, and over the years, I wrote it off as a hoax. Well, it wasn't, and I finally got to read a copy! Obviously this was a VERY early draft, and Jurassic World appears to bear very little resemblance to this original script - although certain elements may have made the cut. With that said, I hope you enjoy my brief summary of Jurassic Park 4's original script!

The JP4 script opens with a baseball game in the US where little leaguer are being attacked by pterosaurs. It becomes clear that these attacks are gaining prominence globally and task forces have been put together to eradicate the dinosaurs which have become, more than anything, a nuisance. John Hammond hires the former soldier Nick Harris to help eradicate the remaining threat with a "judas strain" of genetically engineered dinos. Hammond wants to breed these new creatures to be highly aggressive but sterile, and he believe they will somehow kill the other dinosaurs… or something. The problem is, Hammond can't get more genetic tomfoolery approved by the UN, so he needs help. Because The UN has outlawed the cloning dinosaurs (and the sale of amber), Hammond needs more genetic material for his crimes against god and nature. The plan is to send Nick back to the island "site A" from the original movie to reclaim the embryos left in Nedry's Barbasol can.

Nick gets to the island and is in full command mode. He looks around for about 5 minutes, and eventually finds the Barbasol can in a stream near the wreckage of Nedry's car (Nedry's skeleton is still in it, btw). Nick thinks he's home free, but of course, things can never be that simple. Nick is "ambushed" by another group of commando looking dudes who ALSO want the canister. These dudes are with the Grendel Corporation, another group who have taken over the island and want to covertly clone more dinosaurs. They want that canister too, and Nick is almost screwed... but, it's been about 15 minutes since our last dino sighting. Dinosaurs are on the loose, dudes! We have these weird "digging raptors" that chomp the main commando to bits, and let Nick make a run for it. He goes through a few different areas, including a breeding habitat, and eventually manages to get in touch with his getaway copter. When he reaches the water, he's still being pursued by the "diggers" and jumps in the water for extraction. The only problem is there are also gigantic AQUATIC dinosaurs that are out for blood…. or in this case… cold hard helicopter steel. A kronosaurus tears the helicopter out of the water, and Nick isn't sure where he has left to go. That is, until a Grendel Cooperation helicopter picks him up with the canister.

Nick is taken away in the helicopter and pressured to give them the canister of embryos, but there's yet another sort of ridiculous set piece that takes place on the mainland in which Nick dives off the helicopter onto a tourist covered beach and manages to hide the embryos in a beer chest in a local bar. That happens, Nick is knocked out by Grendel Corporation, and he is transported to Europe.

Nick wakes up in a castle in Switzerland. This is the headquarters of the commando dudes, and Nick is given a tour of the facility. He meets Maya, a geneticist, who explains they are also making new dinosaurs, and are attempting to control them with the assistance of neuroregulatory implants they control remotely. She shows Nick X-1, nicknamed Spartacus, a deinonychus who she can remotely control. Then Nixk is introduced to it's friends X-2 and X-3 - Orestes and Perseus. If you've heard anything about this script before, these are probably the most famous part. These dinosaurs have been genetically modified with with dog and HUMAN DNA to increase obedience and problem solving. They also apparently have color changing skin to camouflage with their surroundings.

The team at Grendel Corporation still want those darn embryos to make more of their dino super soldiers, but they realize they need Nick's cooperation first. They decide to demonstrate how great these enhanced creatures are by using them rescue a little girl from a hostage situation. Many reasons that necessitate dinosaurs performing this mission instead of actual police are explained away. It's dinosaur time or bust, and Nick needs to use his Navy Seal skills to whip them into shape. What does that mean? Well for starters it means a DINOSAUR TRAINING MONTAGE!!! The dinosaurs are clearing obstacles, detecting mines, and getting up to a whole lot of dino shenanigans. I would be lying if I didn't admit I kind of loved it. Although Nick is upset that the date of the rescue mission was moved up, they continue on with it. The dinosaurs storm the hideout, kill the kidnappers, and don't harm the little girl at all. It's a total success!

The rest of the script involves more drama about what Nick decides to do with the cannister, and when all's said and done, the Grendel Corporation have been the bad guys all along. The script ends with some neat set pieces of the dinosaurs getting loose and munching on the baddies. It's also revealed - gasp - the dinosaurs can still survive without their neuroregulators and can survive in the wild.

That was just a brief overview of Jurassic Park's original script, but I think I covered all the major plot points. I'll leave you with a few amusing details here:
* "The baseball keeps rising, rising- FWOOSH! A huge black PTEROSAUR swoops out of the heights and snatches the ball in its razor-toothed bill, then wings away with powerful strokes!"
* A pterosaur also tries to eat a steak, and fights a dog for it.
* "Did you know that I am the most sued person in the history of the world? It's in th Guinness Book, you could look it up. Prominent law schools devote entire semesters to my malfeasances, regulatory statutes bear my name- not the legacy I had in mind when I started out, but a legacy nonetheless." - John Hammond
* The UN apparently outlawed the distribution of amber to curb dinosaur cloning (which is also outlawed)
* Nick Harris regarding Nedry's skeleton: "Looks like you've dropped a few pounds."
* Maya was apparently a lion tamer before she moved on to dinosaurs.
*There's a scene in which dinosaurs parachute from an airplane.
* A villain is named Baron von Drax

Now that the franchise is a lazy license to print money, I say just go wild with the original JP4 concept.

 

[El_Shamro]

Hints as to the plotline:

• Other companies getting in on the Dinosaur-engineering action, either through Nedry-style corporate espionage or through creating their own dinosaurs. Taking bets on Biosyn?
• Dinosaurs escaping into the wild and successfully surviving there, as happened at the end of the JP book.
• Militarized Dinosaur arms race?
• "Open source" Dinosaur creation (whatever the hell that means)?

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This is starting to sound like Metal Gear Solid, except with Chris Pratt and dinosaurs.

 

[Harry Leferts]

This is starting to sound like Metal Gear Solid, except with Chris Pratt and dinosaurs.

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"Raptors, son!"

 

[Isambard]

Jurassic Park was awesome very largely because it utilized cutting-edge paleontology for the time and revolutionized the public perception of dinosaurs.

Infuriatingly, Jurassic World passed up the opportunity to do the same and went with portrayals more than a decade out of date.

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Jurassic Park was a movie about dinosaurs.

Jurassic World was a movie about Jurassic Park movies.

 

[WhiteDragon25]

Man, how else are they going to screw up this time? That idiot Hoskins already tried for using Velociraptors as attack dogs, and he got eaten for his phenomenal stupidity. What are Masrani & InGen's competitors going to try next? Some asshole from BioSyn press-ganging Dr. Wu into creating another Indominus Rex, and this time for mass production? Is North Korea going to try their hand at building an army of Nazi Commie Juche-Dinosaurs?

One would think that the massive disaster that befell Jurassic World would tip these characters off about not trying to control Dinosaurs!

But no, I probably suspect someone in-universe will try and attempt to breed human-dinosaur hybrids like in the original JP4 concept art.

 

[AnimalKrazed]

So apparently the script for Jurassic World 2 is done, a direction has been hired, the casting is done, and their right in the thick of filming for the money currently.

NEWS!



In brief, the movie will be directed by J. A. Bayona (The Orphanage, The Impossible, A Monster Calls). The writers are Derek Connolly and Colin Trevorrow, same as Jurassic World 1. Chris Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard, and B.D. Wong return as Owen Grady, Claire Dearing (this time without the heels), and Dr. Henry Wu. Everybody's favorite, Jeff Goldblum, is returning as Ian Malcolm (seriously, why is it always Malcolm, and never Grant, who people actually like?). New comers include James Cromwell, Hammond's secret partner. The basic plot is thus far is Grady returning to the island eith Claire to save his raptor Blue from extermination from the imminent 'euthanization' of the island by the powers that by after everything went south. The movie will allegedly included a greater emphasis suspense/horror, and the use of animatronic dinosaurs vs CGI ones. on animatroncis vs CGI dinosaurs, and more suspend

DINOSAURS!

The true star of the Jurassic Park franchise, Rexy, and her new side kick, Blue, are set to return. New dinosaurs include the Carnotaurus, Baryonyx, and Stygimoloch. The venom spitting Dilophosaurus returns to the big screen.


Infamous Jurassic Park dinosaur returning for Jurassic World 2


PICTURES!

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A new thread started up lately over on SpaceBattles about the news about JW2. Figured I would see if I could breathe some new life into this thread and topic. Anyone else a little excited? I know I am. I was disappointed by the inaccurate beasties shown in JW but I thought the movie itself was alright. JP series is something I was raised on/with so any new additions are entertaining for me. I'm looking forward to how the horror elements are played at least.

 

[Insufficient Dakka]

This is starting to sound like Metal Gear Solid, except with Chris Pratt and dinosaurs.

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What's a Russian pterosaur doing in Alaska...?

 

[TheLordofAwesome]

Jurassic Park was awesome very largely because it utilized cutting-edge paleontology for the time and revolutionized the public perception of dinosaurs.

Infuriatingly, Jurassic World passed up the opportunity to do the same and went with portrayals more than a decade out of date.

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Fun fact! Scientists recently said that the T. rex might not have been feathered.

Also on the subject, these dinosaurs are genetically modified. Realistically speaking they were never going to be physically accurate in-universe as mentioned in both Jurassic World and the original Jurassic Park novel. Shit, the argument used in JW was pretty much lifted from the original novel where Wu is telling Hammond that they should just tailor the dinosaurs to being harmless idiots because that's what the people want, and because they are already nothing like the real deals.

 

[Mechasaurian]

Also on the subject, these dinosaurs are genetically modified.

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So what?

The Tyrannosaurus in the original Jurassic Park was awesome because it was based on up-to-date paleontological information from the 90s. If the Jurassic Park creators had been as cowardly as the Jurassic World creators, the public perception of of Tyrannosaurus would still be that of a ugly, slow, bloated, tail-dragging lizard.

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The "genetically modified" angle isn't a reason to lazily slap the "dinosaur" name on fantasy creatures and call it a day. It's a reason to move the depictions ever-closer to an accurate model of the awesome real-life creatures.

Of course, it's entirely possible to make both the progressives and regressives. happy. Jurassic World starred three different raptors. You could make one of them hew to the "classic" Jurassic Park appearance, and give the other two different feathered configurations.

Oh, and give us Argentinosaurus pretty please.

 

[EarthScorpion]

Fun fact! Scientists recently said that the T. rex might not have been feathered.

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No, that's fucking ignorant media reporting mis-understanding what that study actually said. They tested a tiny amount of skin coverage to get that result, because T-rex skin is very rare. And the thing is, even modern birds have scales and feathers and bare skin.

As even the terrible press report said:

Article:

"This doesn't rule out feathers on even the biggest tyrannosaurs," said University of London paleontologist David Hone, who was not involved in the research, "but does suggest they lacked a full coat of feathers."

You know what else lacks a full coat of feathers? Ostridges. Chickens. Vultures.

What the study should actually say is "We didn't find any feathers on the small body areas we tested", not "T-rex wasn't feathered".

 

[Jcogginsa]

Well it would have been impossible to have a feathered Rex in World anyway, since the Only T. Rex we see was meant to be the Same T. Rex from the original movie

 

[TheLordofAwesome]

So what?

The Tyrannosaurus in the original Jurassic Park was awesome because it was based on up-to-date paleontological information from the 90s. If the Jurassic Park creators had been as cowardly as the Jurassic World creators, the public perception of of Tyrannosaurus would still be that of a ugly, slow, bloated, tail-dragging lizard.

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The "genetically modified" angle isn't a reason to lazily slap the "dinosaur" name on fantasy creatures and call it a day. It's a reason to move the depictions ever-closer to an accurate model of the awesome real-life creatures.

Of course, it's entirely possible to make both the progressives and regressives. happy. Jurassic World starred three different raptors. You could make one of them hew to the "classic" Jurassic Park appearance, and give the other two different feathered configurations.

Oh, and give us Argentinosaurus pretty please.

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You're kinda missing the point. I'm saying that the series has always acknowledged that the dinosaurs were never accurate in-universe. Them lacking feathers in Jurassic World is more true to the original source material.

If people were truly so concerned for accuracy then why is no one asking for chicken sized Velociraptors or Dilophosauruses that don't spit poison.

 

[Jace911]

You're kinda missing the point. I'm saying that the series has always acknowledged that the dinosaurs were never accurate in-universe. Them lacking feathers in Jurassic World is more true to the original source material.

If people were truly so concerned for accuracy then why is no one asking for chicken sized Velociraptors or Dilophosauruses that don't spit poison.

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This is a hideously weak excuse given the "original source material" also portrayed Hammond as a greedy old fuck, Genaro had a character arc that ended at "badass", Muldoon lived and the dinosaurs were all visibly sick and borderline terminally ill because genetic engineering isn't perfect.

Giving a shit about the book at this point is pretty silly given how far the films drifted from the story Crichton was trying to tell even before he died and the series was rebooted.

 

[EarthScorpion]

If people were truly so concerned for accuracy then why is no one asking for chicken sized Velociraptors or Dilophosauruses that don't spit poison.

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People are asking for turkey-sized, feathery velociraptors. And for the utahraptors who replace them to be feathery.

And likewise, I've seen people asking for them to not make up "poison spitting" for which there's no evidence for.

 

[tankdrop24]

You're kinda missing the point. I'm saying that the series has always acknowledged that the dinosaurs were never accurate in-universe. Them lacking feathers in Jurassic World is more true to the original source material.

If people were truly so concerned for accuracy then why is no one asking for chicken sized Velociraptors or Dilophosauruses that don't spit poison.

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Well, of course it sounds bad if you frame it that way.

But why not feature all the cool things that had been discovered about dinosaurs recently, instead of clinging to imaginary perceptions of dead animals. It could inspire a new generation with the sight of an animal they've never seen before?

Would this really have made for a worse movie?

 

[Mechasaurian]

If people were truly so concerned for accuracy then why is no one asking for chicken sized Velociraptors

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You could depict anatomically accurate Velociraptors, yes. You could even make them scary. A swarm of feathered dog-sized raptors picking apart a human piece by piece could be pretty horrifying.

Alternatively, you can go with a real life raptor that closely resembles the movie "Velociraptors" and portray it accurately. Deinonychus is the go to example here.

Or, if you are determined to go with fantasy creatures, don't give them the names of real life animals. That's like having a chimera as the movie monster and having the characters insistently call it a "lion." Call the onscreen raptors "Novaraptors" or some other cool made up name so that the audience is not misinformed.

But remember: Rexy from Jurassic Park wasn't cool because she was a made up fantasy creature. She was cool because she was real.

 

[Cyrus 21]

The Jurassic Collection
Speaking of Jurassic World, found a channel with tons of neat Jurassic Park related stuff. Including TV Spots, Documentaries, commercials, and more. Like for example, the making of the Jurassic Park Ride:

 

[Harry Leferts]

For those complaining, the issue with feathers was explained, in-universe, in the Masrani backdoor by Wu himself:

RUFFLED FEATHERS
---BEGIN LOG---

OWNER: WU, HENRY
DATE: 02/20/2003 1410 CST
SUBJECT: RUFFLED FEATHERS
NOTES: I'M CALLING THIS THE 'COMMON COLD OF GENETICS'. WE CAN'T CURE THIS ONE SOON I'M SURE. BECAUSE WE'RE ACTIVELY MANIPULATING AND MUTATING THE ANIMALS' GENES, ADDING FROG, BIRD AND REPTILE DNA, WE CREATE WHAT IS KNOWN AS 'NULL ALLELE'. THE DINOSAURS CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT SOMETHING ADDED TO THEIR CODE SO FOR NOW WE'RE STUCK WITH SCALES. MAYBE MY RESEARCH INTO GENE SPLICING WILL UNEARTH THIS PROBLEM, IT CERTAINLY PROVED ITS LIMITLESS CAPABILITIES WITH THAT ACCIDENT WE LEFT ON SORNA.

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People are asking for turkey-sized, feathery velociraptors. And for the utahraptors who replace them to be feathery.

And likewise, I've seen people asking for them to not make up "poison spitting" for which there's no evidence for.

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The venom spitting happened because, at the time of at least the book, there was a fringe theory going around that Dilophosaurus might have had venom due to how thin and slender it's teeth were. It's also similar to the Raptors as another Paleontologist at the time was making suggestions that we should sort a whole bunch of different species (such as Deinonychus) as being sub-species of Velociraptor. Hilariously, the background notes for "Jurassic Park: The Game" even noted that it was very likely that there were major problems due to the chimeric DNA (Sorkin blamed it for things like how the Raptors were too big, Dilophosaurus spitting venom, and how the T-Rex couldn't see you when you were still).

 

[Cyrus 21]

For those complaining, the issue with feathers was explained, in-universe, in the Masrani backdoor by Wu himself:


The venom spitting happened because, at the time of at least the book, there was a fringe theory going around that Dilophosaurus might have had venom due to how thin and slender it's teeth were. It's also similar to the Raptors as another Paleontologist at the time was making suggestions that we should sort a whole bunch of different species (such as Deinonychus) as being sub-species of Velociraptor. Hilariously, the background notes for "Jurassic Park: The Game" even noted that it was very likely that there were major problems due to the chimeric DNA (Sorkin blamed it for things like how the Raptors were too big, Dilophosaurus spitting venom, and how the T-Rex couldn't see you when you were still).

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I know that the T-Rex thing was due to frog DNA being used to fill in blanks, meaning it, like a frog, couldn't see prey that wasn't moving.

 

[Jace911]

People are asking for turkey-sized, feathery velociraptors. And for the utahraptors who replace them to be feathery.

And likewise, I've seen people asking for them to not make up "poison spitting" for which there's no evidence for.

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See I actually don't mind stuff like poison spitting, because as much as it's an asspull it's also a reminder that we actually don't know a whole lot about these animals for sure other than "this is what their skeletons looked like and they lived here", so if we suddenly get the ability to genetically resurrect them they're gonna catch us off guard, because they might as well be from an alien planet.

 

[TheLordofAwesome]

Well, of course it sounds bad if you frame it that way.

But why not feature all the cool things that had been discovered about dinosaurs recently, instead of clinging to imaginary perceptions of dead animals. It could inspire a new generation with the sight of an animal they've never seen before?

Would this really have made for a worse movie?

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You could depict anatomically accurate Velociraptors, yes. You could even make them scary. A swarm of feathered dog-sized raptors picking apart a human piece by piece could be pretty horrifying.

Alternatively, you can go with a real life raptor that closely resembles the movie "Velociraptors" and portray it accurately. Deinonychus is the go to example here.

Or, if you are determined to go with fantasy creatures, don't give them the names of real life animals. That's like having a chimera as the movie monster and having the characters insistently call it a "lion." Call the onscreen raptors "Novaraptors" or some other cool made up name so that the audience is not misinformed.

But remember: Rexy from Jurassic Park wasn't cool because she was a made up fantasy creature. She was cool because she was real.

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Again, missing the point. There is an in-universe explanation as to why they don't have feathers, getting mad they don't have feathers when the characters acknowledge that, yeah, the dinosaurs are inaccurate is just silly is what I am saying.

And just to be clear, I have nothing against feathered dinosaurs. I've argued in the defense of why feathered dinosaurs are cool to people who don't think they are (BTW, I'm looking forward to the game Saurian. Check it out!). But with Jurassic Park I am more than willing to give a pass because they acknowledge they aren't accurate in the story.

To quote Jurassic Park (because this quote has a lot to do with this current discussion: "You said it yourself, John, this park is entertainment," Wu said. "And entertainment has nothing to do with reality. Entertainment is antithetical to reality."

 

[serra2]

Again, missing the point. There is an in-universe explanation as to why they don't have feathers, getting mad they don't have feathers when the characters acknowledge that, yeah, the dinosaurs are inaccurate is just silly is what I am saying.

And just to be clear, I have nothing against feathered dinosaurs. I've argued in the defense of why feathered dinosaurs are cool to people who don't think they are (BTW, I'm looking forward to the game Saurian. Check it out!). But with Jurassic Park I am more than willing to give a pass because they acknowledge they aren't accurate in the story.

To quote Jurassic Park (because this quote has a lot to do with this current discussion: "You said it yourself, John, this park is entertainment," Wu said. "And entertainment has nothing to do with reality. Entertainment is antithetical to reality."

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They even bring this up in Jurassic World. Wu states that these are all manufactured hybrids, and they look the way they do because Paul Marketing said it had the highest revenue potential.