Thank you for reminding me, yes. I edited the note in the update to add the following:
Plan votes only please. And there will be a voting moratorium for 24 hours, considering the importance of it.
"It Rhymes with Peak": A Theon Greyjoy Quest
- Thread starter Husr
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Plan votes only please. And there will be a voting moratorium for 24 hours, considering the importance of it.
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- somewhere on this dying planet
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If feel if we want to rule the Iron Islands, we're more than likely going to have to kill Balon at minimum. We've already defied his orders by raiding Lannisport, so he's obviously not going to consent to Theon being his heir after that (not that he was going to in the first place). Aeron and Asha may have to go as well, since the former is still pissed at us denying him his religious sacrifices and the latter wants the Iron Islands for herself.
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Here's a WIP plan
[] Plan: Theon the New Man
-[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
-[] Rule your own mainland territory.
-[] Write-in: Find Love
You realized part of the reason you returned to the Iron Islands is after a lifetime of seeing the warmth and love the Starks shared, you had hoped to experince even a fraction of it from your own kin. But you realize now that was never going to happen, you were dead to Balon since the day you were taken by the Starks, Asha seemed to hold little love and even less respect for you as well. Your kin would never love you. But that doesn't mean you are destined to be alone and unloved, you can find someone out there who loves you for who you are, and doesn't scorn you for who you aren't. Maybe a fine woman you could marry and have children with, or perhaps someone else. Either way, you'll find a way to fill that ache in your chest.
-[] Be completely honest.
@Husr I want to make sure my write-in has GM approval.
So after thinking it over, and looking at the options in this update. I want a clean break, the Greyjoys rejected Theon so we reject them. We build Theon a new life, a richer and more fullfilling one then he'd ever have on the Iron Islands. And the best way to accomplish that is at Robb's side.
Edit: Changed the second Goal.
[] Plan: Theon the New Man
-[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
-[] Rule your own mainland territory.
-[] Write-in: Find Love
You realized part of the reason you returned to the Iron Islands is after a lifetime of seeing the warmth and love the Starks shared, you had hoped to experince even a fraction of it from your own kin. But you realize now that was never going to happen, you were dead to Balon since the day you were taken by the Starks, Asha seemed to hold little love and even less respect for you as well. Your kin would never love you. But that doesn't mean you are destined to be alone and unloved, you can find someone out there who loves you for who you are, and doesn't scorn you for who you aren't. Maybe a fine woman you could marry and have children with, or perhaps someone else. Either way, you'll find a way to fill that ache in your chest.
-[] Be completely honest.
@Husr I want to make sure my write-in has GM approval.
So after thinking it over, and looking at the options in this update. I want a clean break, the Greyjoys rejected Theon so we reject them. We build Theon a new life, a richer and more fullfilling one then he'd ever have on the Iron Islands. And the best way to accomplish that is at Robb's side.
Edit: Changed the second Goal.
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I mainly want this, and to not take the furious option. Seriously hate that part.
If he can't trust Robb he can't trust anyone.
Yup, looks good!
[] Plan: Lord of foreign lands
-[] Rule your own mainland territory.
-[] Carve your name into history.
-[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
-[] Be completely honest.
I can understand not wanting to rule the Iron Islands, especially with all the future conflict, for such a meager price. But the desire to be lord of a better land is a better motivation than simply winning other people's battles. I don't see Theon as an unambitious friend and romantic. We can do more.
-[] Rule your own mainland territory.
-[] Carve your name into history.
-[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
-[] Be completely honest.
I can understand not wanting to rule the Iron Islands, especially with all the future conflict, for such a meager price. But the desire to be lord of a better land is a better motivation than simply winning other people's battles. I don't see Theon as an unambitious friend and romantic. We can do more.
Ok, I don't have the time to write a long proposal (or even think of one) right now, so instead I'm going to try to propose a Framework in which these goal can be understood, that will hopefully lead to Theon being a somewhat balanced person.
I think there are 3 types of goals, of which we should each have one. Political, Inter-Personal and Personal.
Political would basically be what we want, in relation to the greater game of thrones, so something like these:
[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
[] Rule your own mainland territory.
[] Sit the Driftwood Throne.
Then there would be Inter-Personal, which would basically be what Theon aims for in his relationship with other people. I don't think this would just influence one or two individual relationships, bit will probably be an influence, major or minor (depending on the person), on how he interacts with anyone, at all.
Think of these:
[] (Furious) Make Balon pay.
[] Reconcile with your family.
As well as the frequent option from other, similar quests, of:
[] Find Love
And the last one would be Personal. So basically, the start of an answer to the question "Who is Theon Greyjoy, if we wasn't Theon nor a Greyjoy". What does he want in the privacy of his own mind.
The only one of the proposed options would be:
[] Carve your name into history.
But some things like the following would probably also work:
[] Write a Complete History of House Greyjoy
[] Travel to all the Seven Kingdoms
[] Visit Essos
[] Built the Greatest Ship to have ever Sailed
[] Become really good at Pottery
[] Become the best Archer in the 7 Kingdoms
[] Find something to fix your Eyesight
(Btw, I'm not asking for approval for any of these, it would be kind of mean towards Husr to ask him to review 8 options at once, they are mainly just here to serve as possible example)
I think there are 3 types of goals, of which we should each have one. Political, Inter-Personal and Personal.
Political would basically be what we want, in relation to the greater game of thrones, so something like these:
[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
[] Rule your own mainland territory.
[] Sit the Driftwood Throne.
Then there would be Inter-Personal, which would basically be what Theon aims for in his relationship with other people. I don't think this would just influence one or two individual relationships, bit will probably be an influence, major or minor (depending on the person), on how he interacts with anyone, at all.
Think of these:
[] (Furious) Make Balon pay.
[] Reconcile with your family.
As well as the frequent option from other, similar quests, of:
[] Find Love
And the last one would be Personal. So basically, the start of an answer to the question "Who is Theon Greyjoy, if we wasn't Theon nor a Greyjoy". What does he want in the privacy of his own mind.
The only one of the proposed options would be:
[] Carve your name into history.
But some things like the following would probably also work:
[] Write a Complete History of House Greyjoy
[] Travel to all the Seven Kingdoms
[] Visit Essos
[] Built the Greatest Ship to have ever Sailed
[] Become really good at Pottery
[] Become the best Archer in the 7 Kingdoms
[] Find something to fix your Eyesight
(Btw, I'm not asking for approval for any of these, it would be kind of mean towards Husr to ask him to review 8 options at once, they are mainly just here to serve as possible example)
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Changed my plan because while don't get me wrong, Theon is a gloryhound and I want him to keep being that, Getting Theon a nice fiefdom is more important that being remembered as a legend.
Fuck it, I actually have to be somewhere now, but I do quickly want to say, that I find the conception that goals like friendship or love are somehow intrinsically lesser than ruling over some piece of dirt almost offensively wrong.
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I'm aware that you didn't ask for it, but since so many of these are really cool anyway, here's my point by point authorization:
[] Write a Complete History of House Greyjoy
[] Become the best Archer in the 7 Kingdoms
[] Built the Greatest Ship to have ever Sailed
Perfect, no notes.
[] Travel to all the Seven Kingdoms
[] Visit Essos
Theres nothing wrong with these in a vacuum, but if you'd actually been proposing them, I'd want a bit more to go on from the description. What would motivate Theon to make this kind of travel a driving goal in his life?
[] Become really good at Pottery
Similar issue except even I would struggle to justify it if I tried, so you'd have your work cut out for you.
[] Find something to fix your Eyesight
Having recently reread all his chapters and scoured the wiki, I can find no indication anywhere that anything is wrong with Theon's eyesight. He already weilds a bow in battle, where if it posed any difficulties you'd think it would come up.
Plan iron King theon
[] (Furious) Make Balon pay
[] Sit the Driftwood Throne
[] Carve your name into history
[] Be completely honest
Put this together because as much as I want to help robb I can't stand the idea of just giving up Theron's inheritance, mainly because if we do so where just proven the iron born right about just being robbs lapdog,
[] (Furious) Make Balon pay
[] Sit the Driftwood Throne
[] Carve your name into history
[] Be completely honest
Put this together because as much as I want to help robb I can't stand the idea of just giving up Theron's inheritance, mainly because if we do so where just proven the iron born right about just being robbs lapdog,
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For me personally I think it's best to just not care what the ironborn think. Cause the update makes a point I hadn't really thought about before. Balon was preparing for battle with the North well before he knew Theon was returning home, which means he was fine with Theon being killed by the Starks, and no one around him really cared either. The Greyjoys don't care about Theon.
It´s a game and not real life. Theon is not a guy from the 21st century of our world. He is the heir to a millennia-old house in Westeros. There's good reason for him not to share your values, and I don't think it's that crazy to say so. It doesn't mean he can't be a good friend or something more for people, just that he also wants to preserve his nobility for himself and his descendants.
Edit: So I didn't say that rule over land is fundamentally more important than love, but that it makes sense for Theon to put both on at least the same level. I think this interpretation is close to bad faith and I'm sad to see that even the GM finds it "insightful".
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As long as you get Robb on board, yes.
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Romance isn't for everyone, and Theon already has the best of friends in Robb.
If we're going for something relating to having other people in our life, making peace with his kin besides Balon is very appropriate for a man raised by Eddard Stark.
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Honestly, I'm up for claiming the Iron Islands regardless of how our family feels. If the war manages to go really well, we could even potentially secure some Westerlands territory for the Ironborn to sweeten the deal for us ruling them.
Ruling a mainland fief and reconciling with his family are synergistic goals. By giving up Theon's claim to the Iron Islands, we would dramatically improve our relations with Asha and she can act as Theon's bridge with the rest of the family. Also, let's be honest, Theon's claim is as weak as it can be.
What's better, this would also be the easiest and swiftest way to evict Balon from his throne. Instead of investing time and effort on building our support from scratch, we could just reinforce Asha's claim. The job's already half-done, we just need to give it an extra push and then we can conquer some fief with actual, honest-to-gods, wealth and good weather.
What's better, this would also be the easiest and swiftest way to evict Balon from his throne. Instead of investing time and effort on building our support from scratch, we could just reinforce Asha's claim. The job's already half-done, we just need to give it an extra push and then we can conquer some fief with actual, honest-to-gods, wealth and good weather.
UrbanAvena
Stair climber and vertical movement enthusiast
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- In the stairwell and elevator shaft.
Here's my provisional plan.
[] Plan Greed is not so bad
-[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
-[] Reconcile with your family.
-[] Carve your name into history.
-[] Be completely honest.
The idea here is to have it all. To have Robb, Family, and Glory! Theon shall not turn his back on anything that he wanted!
EDIT*
[] Plan Sun Drenched Greyjoy
-[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
-[] Reconcile with your family.
-[] Rule your own mainland territory.
-[] Be completely honest.
[] Plan Greed is not so bad
-[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
-[] Reconcile with your family.
-[] Carve your name into history.
-[] Be completely honest.
The idea here is to have it all. To have Robb, Family, and Glory! Theon shall not turn his back on anything that he wanted!
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Nice point! I made another plan that swap history with mainland.
[] Plan Sun Drenched Greyjoy
-[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
-[] Reconcile with your family.
-[] Rule your own mainland territory.
-[] Be completely honest.
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- New York
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[] Plan: Theon the New Man
Carving your name into history is fine but fuck the Iron Islands and fuck the Greyjoys. Theon needs a clean break.
Carving your name into history is fine but fuck the Iron Islands and fuck the Greyjoys. Theon needs a clean break.
Luminous
God Save The Queen
[] Plan: Lord of foreign lands
-[] Rule your own mainland territory.
-[] Carve your name into history.
-[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
-[] Be completely honest.
I might just be a Stark simp, but I'd rather win the war and end up as one of Robb's major Lords. Might even be his Master of Ships or something. The IronIslands are pretty bare and I don't have much faith in reconciling with the other Greyjoys. Balon is a Spiteful old man nursing old grudges. Osha might be worth working into an alliance though. She seems smart.
-[] Rule your own mainland territory.
-[] Carve your name into history.
-[] (Strategist) Win the war for the Starks.
-[] Be completely honest.
I might just be a Stark simp, but I'd rather win the war and end up as one of Robb's major Lords. Might even be his Master of Ships or something. The IronIslands are pretty bare and I don't have much faith in reconciling with the other Greyjoys. Balon is a Spiteful old man nursing old grudges. Osha might be worth working into an alliance though. She seems smart.
Ah, the Hoare strategy. Certainly a bold approach, but Theon has never wanted for confidence.
I'm not super interested in litigating this, but I was supporting the general sentiment that friendship and love needn't be considered lesser than material goals, rather than any response or rebuttal to anything you said. Theon could easily put them both on the same level and it would make sense, like you're mentioning, or even decide not to worry about anything but power. It's up to all of you to decide, is the point.
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