In the Wake of Monsters - an Advisor's Quest

[X] [School] Speak out for Heroism.
[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[X] [Speech] In accordance with your position, speak of the course of the city past and future.
 
[X] [School] Speak out for Heroism.
[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[X] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.
 
[] [School] Explicitly declare yourself neutral.
[X] [School] Passively avoid the debate.

[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[x] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.

Guys, Hero-ism is specifically picking arguments with the Temples. Who actually have gods who might object.
 
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[X] [School] Explicitly declare yourself neutral.
[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[x] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.

Is there a real point declaring for any?
 
[X] [Exams] Write in other immediate change (offer to recruit people from clans willing to support Avalanche as 5th Great Clan)
Increase the pool of potential recruits and the number of successes will increase.
@Exmorri
This write in valid/viable?
This is fine.

Is there a real point declaring for any?
Mostly it opens up possibilities, dependent on how things go in the future. But I'll grant it's more characterization and less action than a lot of other votes.

Guys, Hero-ism is specifically picking arguments with the Temples. Who actually have gods who might object.
Huh?
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As you make your regular offerings, you overhear a Creationist rabble-rouser loudly and incoherently denouncing the gods before getting into a fistfight with a priest.
Are you thinking of some other line?
 
[X] [School] Explicitly declare yourself neutral.
[X] [School] Passively avoid the debate.

[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[x] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.
 
[X] [School] Explicitly declare yourself neutral.
[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[x] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.
 
@Exmorri Important question: Has steel been discovered yet? And if so, how available is it?

Eg: Not produced anywhere nearby, Not produced in Silverport but there's a limited supply locally, Produced in Silverport but only by the absolute best smiths, Widely produced in Silverport...

Because if it's not the last one, which I don't think it's specifically noted that our forge can't yet melt iron whilst we're also noted to be a Master Smith... Well, discovering how to produce steel is going to be an immense moneymaker. And also more than make up for not producing Starmetal. On the other hand, if Starmetal is actually just meteoric iron/steel... Well now, that is going to have an impact.
 
@Exmorri Important question: Has steel been discovered yet? And if so, how available is it?

Eg: Not produced anywhere nearby, Not produced in Silverport but there's a limited supply locally, Produced in Silverport but only by the absolute best smiths, Widely produced in Silverport...

Because if it's not the last one, which I don't think it's specifically noted that our forge can't yet melt iron whilst we're also noted to be a Master Smith... Well, discovering how to produce steel is going to be an immense moneymaker. And also more than make up for not producing Starmetal. On the other hand, if Starmetal is actually just meteoric iron/steel... Well now, that is going to have an impact.
Steel has been discovered, is produced locally in limited quantities, and has overall low availability. Discovering a better steelmaking process is indeed one of the possible outcomes on the table of metallurgical innovation I drew up.
 
Steel has been discovered, is produced locally in limited quantities, and has overall low availability. Discovering a better steelmaking process is indeed one of the possible outcomes on the table of metallurgical innovation I drew up.

How well have we been rolling on that table? Or is it a case of 'I've assigned certain discoveries to certain numbers'?

Just wondering if we just haven't been rolling high enough (very believable) or just not rolled the right number.
 
[X] [School] Explicitly declare yourself neutral.
[X] [School] Passively avoid the debate.

[X] [Exams] Do nothing for the moment

[X] [Speech] In accordance with your position, speak of the course of the city past and future.
Adhoc vote count started by King50000 on Sep 9, 2018 at 6:41 PM, finished with 28 posts and 18 votes.

  • [X] Plan Godly Connections and Smithing Swansong
    -[X] Pick between 0 and 6 actions to spend on this.
    --[X] 3
    -[X] Study Smithing. Zara has blessed you with particular competence and understanding here.
    -[X] Go and help out at your experimental forge. It'll surely go better with both your vision and your new understanding to assist.
    -[X] Slow and Steady. Use an action to take your time to think and plan properly before you do anything else. Other planned actions this turn get a bonus die to their rolls. Cannot be used if overworking.
    -[X] Socialize and build connections with the Temple of the City
    [x] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
    [x] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.
    [X] [School] Passively avoid the debate.
    [X] [Exams] Do nothing for the moment.
    [x] [Exams] Lower the bar on the Strategy section
    -[X]for non military positions only
    [X] [Exams] Write in other immediate change (offer to recruit people from clans willing to support Avalanche as 5th Great Clan)
    [X] [Speech] In accordance with your position, speak of the course of the city past and future.
    [X] [School] Explicitly declare yourself neutral.
    [X] [School] Speak out for Heroism.
    [X] [School] Passively avoid the debate.
    [X] [School] Explicitly declare yourself neutral.
    [X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
Adhoc vote count started by King50000 on Sep 9, 2018 at 6:41 PM, finished with 28 posts and 18 votes.
 
[X] [School] Passively avoid the debate.

[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[x] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.

Explicit declarations of neutrality is how we get dismissed as a non-entity like we have in the past. We may be the bureaucrat to bureau around, but that has a hard time turning into political clout if we keep our heads low.

But being passive about it? We've already seen people touting our performance as evidence for their philosophies, it makes us look damn good and makes people more aware of our role and influence.
 
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Steel has been discovered, is produced locally in limited quantities, and has overall low availability. Discovering a better steelmaking process is indeed one of the possible outcomes on the table of metallurgical innovation I drew up.
Well, we're getting to the point of melting various metals, so we're getting near on some of the crucible steel processes of improving its quality.
Explicit declarations of neutrality is how we get dismissed as a non-entity like we have in the past. We may be the bureaucrat to bureau around, but that has a hard time turning into political clout if we keep our heads low.

But being passive about it? We've already seen people touting our performance as evidence for their philosophies, it makes us look damn good and makes people more aware of our role and influence.
A good point. Changed.
 
[X] [School] Passively avoid the debate.

[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[x] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.
 
[X] [School] Speak out for Heroism.
[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[X] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.
 
[X] [School] Speak out for Heroism.
[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[X] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.
 
[X] [School] Passively avoid the debate.
[X] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[X] [Speech] In accordance with your position, speak of the course of the city past and future.
 
Vote closed, smaller updates incoming.
Adhoc vote count started by Exmorri on Sep 11, 2018 at 5:41 PM, finished with 33 posts and 21 votes.
 
Finally i have caught up. Its nice to see a different take on BoneyM's idea of being part of a privy council.

We are pretty poor though, and I have wondered why peeps decided to leave the education of the FIRST BORN to chance and not pay for a tutor? Maybe its cuz we are too poor.
 
Too young. We opted to build the family bonds for the initial period, so that we have some loyalty to work with before going full in on the educating.
 
Election Season 1: Family Matters
[*] [Exams] Set two bars, for first- and second-rate graduates.
[*] [Speech] In accordance with your ambitions, speak of hopes and dreams and innovation.
[*] [School] Passively avoid the debate.

Solemnity has replaced pomp and grandeur at this particular gathering of Avalanches. No bright ribbons hang, no musicians play. Carefully, slowly, making sure not to trip or jostle anyone or sully your fine robes, you walk towards the meeting-house where dozens of the elders of Avalanche are now approaching. Most are walking like you, while some come carried in palanquins, whether from importance or frailty. All in all they are perhaps fifty in number. Men outnumber women three to one, and the women are uniformly grey-haired while the men are only mostly so. Pillar stands by the entrance along with a handful of house soldiers, scrutinizing and greeting new arrivals.

"Good to see you... glad you could make it, ... why hello, cousin Quiet... welcome..."

It's quite the change from the normal social occasions you've attended under the auspices of your clan, particularly as your close family members are not present. You recognize a familiar great-uncle here, a second cousin once removed there, and old Pillar himself of course, but most are distant relatives about whom you know the name and little else, even with your powers of memory.

While you wait inside for the last stragglers, a steady hum of gossip runs through the room. Speculation, bets, philosophy. Then the doors are closed, candles are lit, and an old man lights several bowls of incense in a row, appealing to various gods, spirits, and an honored ancestor. Old Grandmother Avalanche deigns to manifest and watch the proceedings, and you smile at the oddity that a ghost would be one of the most familiar faces here, after all the times you've seen her at the family shrine.

Avalanche Pillar walks to the front and claps his hands once. Silence falls, and your clan head begins to speak with a firm voice that belies his advanced age.

"I have heard many of you ask and guess, so I will say it plainly: yes, this election was called at the will of Clan Bridge."
"This is cause for celebration and not despair. Some of you say it is because they think they are strong enough now. But I say it is because they are getting weaker. Bridge is not represented on the High Council. Avalanche is."
Several heads turn towards you, but no one interrupts.
"Clan Avalanche will be the fifth of the Great Houses soon, if we are but diligent. Then we will prosper."
He continues making simple assertions that things will go well, before yielding the floor.

The next speaker talks of the nature of your rivals. He says that Clan Plum and Clan Rain are the primary contenders: Plum on its own merits, Rain because it is not-very-secretly backed and funded by Bridge. But Plum used to have the support of Bridge until the head of Bridge decided that he wanted a client rather than ally. Then he gives a long recitation of which larger clans are in the running at all, and which smaller families are supporting them, and his speculations on which ones will throw their weight behind Avalanche when it is clear their favored candidate has lost.

The next speaker speaks of strategy and promises and advice in negotiations to come, and the next one after that rambles about numbers before being discreetly but rapidly shooed off to be senile elsewhere, and then there's a speech on historical parallells from the history of Silverport.

Eventually you are called up. You swallow nervously, march to the front of the room, stare at the congregation of powerful and wealthy kinsfolk, and worry about how badly this could affect your future prospects in the clan if you say something wrong.

[Diplomacy: 2+15=17. Unfortunate.]

Then you get self-conscious about being worried, fight down a surge of panic at feeling underprepared, focus on remembering the speech you'd prepared, and rush into blurting words out before things can get worse.

"Reveredandhonoredones, tenthousandthanks for the opportunity I have been given. You are old and wise, and I am young and hopeful. Together we will surely make good decisions."

As you look at the faces of the crowd, you realize that may have come off a bit arrogant, and start rapidly editing your planned speech on the fly, skipping over your own accomplishments a bit to describe the Portlord's vision: to reform and not merely squat in office. You only briefly mention mirrormetal, then speak of the new city wall that will secure Silverport for the next generations to come, point to the nearby wax candles as an example of a historical invention that was a great improvement on wooden torches, and generally sing the praises of innovation.

You close with a plea for Avalanche to become a forward-looking clan: "Greatness begins with one man's hope: when he sets himself a goal to accomplish something out of the ordinary. When he is not content with common things and tasks, when he dreams of a new life, he says: I will make a better thing. I will do a greater deed. In following known paths one finds safety, but only in going new places does one find glory. Let us therefore become great and glorious, doing the unprecedented."

Afterwards, you sense it's gone over badly. You hear the anecdote of your Horse-Killing Plow being told more than once as a cautionary example of what may happen when one attempts to do the unprecedented. But there's no laughter, no overt criticism, no jeering. Just sometimes being talked down to a little, and that was probably going to happen anyway when talking to someone twice your age.

Dodging questions about whether your speech was Creationist, you stay at the meeting just long enough to fulfill obligations of politeness before making your excuses, going back to see your wife and children, and later to your office to issue an edict that a second crop of graduates shall be accepted at a slightly lower standard for simpler jobs. Some day, when you have more time, you'll sort out just which ones the simpler jobs are, and maybe even tailor particular requirements for each of them. But for the moment the regular bureaucrats can administer that. You still have projects to oversee, things to do, and there are a great many more requests for people to see these days.

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Voting time. This is a miniturn in a small span of time, so you do not have the normal options - but in the election season, networking and gossiping is running high, so social opportunities are more easily available. You get one choice from the social actions:

[] Get to know one of your fellow councillors. (choose which)
[] Spy on one of your fellow councillors. (choose which)
[] Socialize and build connections with one of the great clans of Silverport. (choose which)
[] Spend time with someone else. (choose whom)
[] Hustle to contribute to Avalanche's chances of victory at the election.

QM notes:
The plow in question was previously mentioned in this post as the reason you started in debt.
So far you've picked Inspiration as Marble's starting motivation, advised Void to chart a new course when he discussed city history, started a grand new construction project rather than reinforce the existing walls, and here voted to speak of innovation. Getting to be a distinct pattern.
The new fifth option in this vote will not give you any direct mechanical benefit, and it is not required for (nor does it guarantee) Avalanche's elevation. Choose it if you still think you might be the last straw, or if you want to be very devoted to your clan.
 
The plow in question was previously mentioned in this post as the reason you started in debt.
So far you've picked Inspiration as Marble's starting motivation, advised Void to chart a new course when he discussed city history, started a grand new construction project rather than reinforce the existing walls, and here voted to speak of innovation. Getting to be a distinct pattern.
Yeah, chasing power and security blankets with no worry is a SV fatal flow flaw (and spell-check).
 
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