I Can Reach Any Star

I mean, you could do it in a non-strawman like way (I agree that I don't want the Vulcans to be strawmen). After all we should still get (some version of) the United Federation of Planets at the end of this.

It's quite plausible that the side the Vulcans helped win were to some degree the genuine victims in the conflict. Or perhaps the Vulcans supported an ostensible neutral species-wide government that ended up de facto controlled by the largest ethnic majority, representing their interests and opposing those of minority groups.
 
Well... if we are going to theorize how the Vulcans handled Axanar, we only have Earth to look at.

And per Sato, the Vulcans found the cleanest place they could to settle and told the locals "Follow these rules and we will sell you blueprints to sell to your neighbors, provided your neighbors also follow the rules".

So, the Vulcans may have stopped the violence, but just cemented hegemony of the largest and/or most aggresive ethnic group.
 
I mean that's the thing, the Federation is a drastic revolution in not just mundane interstellar organization but in how all the galactic powers relate to one another in a new diplomatic, economic, socio-political, and philosophical consensus; in how what would eventually birth the Starfleet-grade universal translator, the replicator and energy credit economy, the rehabilitation and reorientation based Federation justice system, etc... etc... all came to be. The closest we've gotten to making moves like that in RL like the UN at least notionally overseeing decolonization, the various Internationals, the EU on a good day, and so on, would all have to put in a looooooot more work to even approach all that- but I think still illustrate how much effort there will have to be in rectifying legitimate grievances and easing dominant hegemonies out of their unjust positions if anything truly substantial were to truly come about.

Just getting the Vulcans to sit down and consider logic under axioms other than the orthodox precepts of Surak and reflect on other philosophical traditions as possible insight to incorporate back into Surak, cultivating a more Sarek and Spock era understanding of what wisdom means for different people and gradually allowing the old pre-Surak pagan temples and rites to go do their own thing without suppression by the Vulcan High Command and etc..., is honestly going to have to be a heroic effort in drawing pacifistic non-interventionism back out of the corner of Surakism that the current High Command has shoved it in. And that's like just basically canon about Vulcan society internally I think, all this is doing is portraying what that means when these Vulcan institutions that have become complacent and chauvinistic get materially incentivized to be so in client relationships over other planets and in solidifying soft power neocolonialism. Like, in both rl and even in star trek, none of this is exactly pretty when you come to the end results of this stuff, see- the Cardassian Union and Bajor, which likewise started out justifying their occupation as a civilizing mission of relatively soft power before going full fascist as the Bajorans started fighting back.
 
It strikes me as a lot more likely that a Vulcan-flavoured imperialism is unlikely to consider things like ethnic animosities or religious insurgencies, partly because they are (presumably) coming in with such an overwhelming technological/economic advantage that they don't need to play one side against the other, or try to pick the more palatable/malleable collaborator options -- they can just come in and sit on everyone en masse and do as they want. (I don't believe there's any sort of galactic Great Game or Cold War that Vulcan is taking part in, where there'd be competitors of some kind; it's worth remembering, I think, that a lot of our context for what imperialist powers do and how they do it is influenced by the backdrop of "competition against our rival(s)", which IIRC Vulcan doesn't really have here).

Also, partly because the underlying contexts (be they social, racial, religious, etc.) are on their face illogical, I more imagine the Vulcans would stroll in largely unawares of said contexts, say "that's pointless and dumb and you should stop that", without actually doing anything to 'help' or hinder one side or the other, and just generally assume that because they're being 'shown a better way' that people will just adapt to it and forget about those 'petty inconsequential details' that were bothering them before. And so long as things aren't brazenly visible (and sometimes even when they are; willful blindness is a helluva drug) there is something of an established track record for imperialist powers to just hang their self-congratulatory banners and assume things are good.
 
It seems a bit strange that every human we see is so solid in their opposition to the Vulcan occupation.

That's because people who are happy on Earth don't have any motivation to risk their lives in space on a ship powered by a bomb?

Remember here the Third World War wasn't that long ago, a lot of people are happy having a peaceful life but those kind of people usually don't wanna risk getting killed or worse by aliens. Also the irritation with the Vulcan is not the same in the whole crew. Some probably see it like having a last minute chaperone at a party you were told you can do in your own.
 
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Oh, god. The vulcans are an entire civilization of that one diplomat in the second honorverse novel. Houseman, I think.

"Your 700 year long religious feud is only still a thing because you're too barbaric to think of the opportunities of cooperative trade with the people who want you dead."
 
Fight or Flight, Part 4
The Axanar vessel was not, strictly, a warship, but as was the case for many vessels of its sort the difference was academic. Long trips through the void, with help never coming, meant that every vessel needed to be able to defend itself, and the more valuable the cargo the more they resembled a battleship.

The vessel it had preyed on carried ores, making tight margins shipping silver, platinum, and gold mined in the rocky systems around Axanar to distant trading posts, where it would eventually be resold to the mineral-poor Klingons in exchange for mercenaries, weapons, and the odd crystals which formed on their moons. It had been armed with nothing more than a few small lasers, just enough to make any raid economically non-viable.

This ship bristled with weapons; Andorans antimatter missile pods, Vulcan laser arrays, a gimbaled energy turret at its nose which had been built by the mysterious Xindi. Energy shields shimmered over an almost insectoid armoured hull, a complex arrangement of angular, blade-like protrusions housing advanced sensors and deflectors. It could fight a Vulcan patrol frigate to a standstill.

This was not an ore hauler. It was built to carry lithium.

It was closing.

---

Enterprise was fast for a human ship, and it had unmatched endurance, but watching the tiny sensor dot grow closer, Archer was quickly realising they were not the fastest thing in the stars.

"How long?"

"At their present speed, they will overtake us in just a little over nine hours," T'Pol read out dispassionately. "However, this may not be their top speed. It is possible they are conserving fuel until they are closer."

Archer swore, turning his chair to the weapons station.

"Mr. Reed, what can you do in nine hours?" he asked.

"I don't know, sir," he responded simply. "Faster than light weapon calibration is complex, and ideally we'd test it. But… I could maybe get us some more accurate weapons, and ready some warheads."

"Go, and any resource you need, you'll get," Archer ordered, then tapped his communicator. "Trip, can we sustain this speed for nine hours and enter combat afterward?"

There was a long pause which Archer knew was his chief engineer thinking.

"I don't like it, captain," she replied. Which meant they could.

"You don't have to," he concluded, then snapped the line shut. "Alright, bring in the reserve shift. We're going to need to be well-rested. Subcommander, Vulcans need less sleep, right?"

"Yes, sir," she responded simply. "Daily rest is healthy, but not necessary."

"Then you have the bridge. Wake us if they accelerate," he said, standing up.

"Shouldn't…" Hoshi began, then trailed off as she suddenly became conscious of everyone turning to look at her. "Shouldn't we call for help?"

"Nobody'll make it out here in time," Travis replied grimly. "Nobody on Earth will even see it happen for four years. Is there any chance we can talk them down?"

"Frankly, after what I saw on that tape, if they want to talk, I don't want to listen," Archer responded. "Send a message torpedo out to Earth anyway… just in case the worst happens."

T'Pol moved to the captain's chair as the crew moved and the reserve shift came on, mostly-unfamiliar faces taking their place on the bridge. She watched the tiny dot on the screen inch closer, the timer winding down, supervised the sensor sweeps getting a clearer and clearer picture of the vessel coming for them.

Six agonising hours passed with nothing. Then the arm of the captain's chair beeped.

"Go."

"... Subcommander?" Trip's voice came through. She sounded exhausted.

"Captain Archer is getting what rest he can. What is it?"

"I think I should talk to the Captain, it's about the torpedo…"

"I will relay any information along, Commander." T'Pol said sternly. There was a muffled sound on the line, then Malcom's voice came through instead.

"Subcommander, we may have solved the targeting issues for warp-capable torpedoes, but you aren't going to like it," he said. "These things weren't designed to work with any of our systems, they're supposed to be controlled by an FTL targeting computer fly-by-wire."

"I understand Enterprise doesn't have one of those," T'Pol pointed out.

"That's the problem in a nutshell, we're trying to make it all happen with onboard computers. We should have had another month to work on it," he continued. "It just doesn't process fast enough and we haven't got time for proper optimization, so… Commander Tucker has… rewritten the targeting solution. She-"

"Look, it's like this," Trip cut in. "This thing has to make decisions when every microsecond is ten thousand kilometres of deviation, we're trying to make it do too much. So… this does exactly one thing, it keeps the biggest subspace blip it can see in the middle of its trajectory projection. No IFF, no collision avoidance, no PD evasion, no abort function, nothin' that'll slow it down-"

"Will it work?" T'Pol asked impatiently.

"Yeah, but it's basically a 20th century heatseeker. Rough accuracy… I'd say one in three, and that's not accounting for detonation timing, which is…" She paused. "Yeah."

"Are they ready now?"

"I can push the update and we get the tubes loaded in… Malcolm?"

"Ten minutes," the weapon's officer replied.

"Then do so," T'Pol said, clicking to another channel. "Captain Archer?"

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The NX-01 dropped out of warp and turned, its thrusters firing as it spun end-over-end. The warp coils had no time to cool before, quite suddenly, they flashed against and the ship blurred off in the other direction. In the dark of interstellar space, it would have looked to an observer like nothing but a brief dance of ghostly lights interplaying between a streak of lightning.

The hours-long chase ended abruptly as the NX-01 screamed past its pursuer, three torpedoes leaping from the twin forward tubes and the third in the rear pod. Despite their technology, the crew of the Axanar vessel were still scrambling to meet the sudden change, the missile pods craning over to track their invisible target and spitting out a quartet of warp missiles of its own, which streaked ineffectually by their target from the immense parallax.

The first of NX-01's missiles never even found its target on the scanners, streaking out into the eternal black. The next dove in on its target and before developing a worsening spin trying to keep the target centred, pulling itself into a thousand pieces in a microsecond. The last closed with the Axanar ship and blinked back into relativistic space right on top of its target.

The internal rangefinder, its screen filled with alien vessel, misfired. The bomb didn't detonate. The missile streaked past, turning and accelerating back into warp, briefly losing track of its target before reacquiring it, tearing away in the opposite direction.

The missile roared back to Warp 8.

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"... is that a hit?"

Malcolm checked his console, frowning.

"Negative, no detonation," he replied. "Missile's… oh."

"Mr. Reed, why is it getting closer?" Archer asked.

"It… appears to have acquired us, sir," he said.

"Well, abort, and ready the next salvo." Archer replied.

"We had to cut the abort sequence, sir." Malcolm said. "T-the odds of this happening-"

"Enough," Archer said simply. "One minute, stop a rogue missile." He shifted in his chair slightly, as though he were watching a sporting event he had no real stake in rather than watching a nuclear missile plunging toward his ship.

"Can we hit it with another?" T'Pol asked.

"No," Malcolm replied simply.

"Okay, plan b then," Archer cut in, watching the timer tick down. "Mister Mayweather, drop us out of warp just before impact, understood?"

"A-aye aye, sir," he said. "I got this."

"Good. They're going to be all over us the moment we do, so ready another three torpedoes and warm up the lasers," Archer concluded, watching the tiny dot close. The slightest bit of nervousness crept over his face. "Polarize hull plating, brace for impact."

In the time it took for the screen to reset to reflect their new circumstance, the tiny dot had passed completely out of view, and it had been replaced with a much larger one. The switch to external cameras showed nothing but a menacing, geometric block of darkness blotting out the stars.

"Mister Reed?"

"Firing!"

Two torpedoes streaked out on impulse engines and shattered against the glowing envelope which danced into view against of the dark shape, wavering and fading.

"No good, they have an energy shield," Malcolm said. "I don't think we dented it."

"We're being scanned," T'Pol said simply. "... correction. I am being scanned."

"What?" Archer asked.

"They have focused an organic scanning array on my position on the bridge," T'Pol said simply. "Disconcerting."

"Well, that means they're distracted. Prepare another two torpedoes to detonate just outside their screens, then target… Subcommander?"

"The missile pod will have integrated antimatter containment," she said. "Andorian vessels usually armour them."

"With the lasers, Mister Reed."

"Um…"

"Aye sir, missiles ready, lasers on target."

"Sir-"

"Prepare to fire!"

"W-we're being hailed!" Hoshi said. "They… have a message, text only. I'm translating."

"Hold," Archer said. All eyes turned to Hoshi as she scanned through, cross-referencing screens. "Ensign?"

"It's… an apology. To… our Vulcan captain," she said. "They want to speak with you, they've given us a video channel and translation matrix for… for Vulcan."

T'Pol turned to Archer, who hadn't moved. A horrible revelation passed over her, and she found herself hoping, against the odds, that logic would win out over pride.

"... you have the chair, Captain," Archer said, standing up and stretching. "Malcom, if you think they aren't buying this, nuke the hell out of them."

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NX-01 flew silently through the darkness of interstellar space, travelling at over a hundred times the speed of light. Inside, Hoshi Sato sat up and stared out the window, the quadruple panes of transparent aluminium that was all between her and the void.

The Axanar ship was gone now; its crew had denied everything, of course. T'Pol had detailed scans made of the exterior while they talked and they would forward the information to Vulcan customs, but a vessel like that could likely change its drive signature and configuration enough to cast doubt on their identity. Not enough doubt if they'd killed a Vulcan officer, as they stood no chance of intercepting NX-01's messenger torpedo, but if it was kept an internal affair, nobody would look twice.

There would be no justice. Hoshi felt sick.

She took one of her sedatives, laying back against the thin pillow and listening to the rumble of the engine as Enterprise continued on its way.

Two years at the outside, she thought. Two years and she skipped the line. It'd be worth it.
 
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"It's… an apology. To… our Vulcan captain,"
Now is going to be a one-time thing, or something recurring?

Because I think that might deal a blow to T'pol's worldview, if everyone outside the ship looks to her as captain because obviously the Vulcans are in charge of these primitives…

All the while T'pol gets immersion with humans and starts to see them as people rather than particularly unruly and stupid children.
 
Specifically, they forced an overshoot by dropping out of warp; the missile's too dumb to compensate. The problem being the crew of the enemy ship *isn't*.
 
The Axanar vessel was not, strictly, a warship, but as was the case for many vessels of its sort the difference was academic. Long trips through the void, with help never coming, meant that every vessel needed to be able to defend itself, and the more valuable the cargo the more they resembled a battleship.
The wonderful concept of economical violence.

No warp, nothing to target, so it just trundles along untill someone else stumbles into it's FOV.
Presumably the torpedo, being an extreme speed hot rod, only has the endurance to fly for a few minutes at most. How dangerous it is after that depends on what sublight momentum it has and how much it masses.
It will hit something by pure happenstance eventually but that is about it.
 
Good resolution shows you can't just techno up a military solution every time. Sometimes you've got to rely on civis Romanis sum.
Not a very happy ending though. It must have pained Archer to have survived only due to pretending Vulcan subservience.
 
That or once it runs out of gas they catch up to it and either recover it if possible or destroy it.
given the wildly manouvering ships and torpedoes I don't thin kthey will be able to follow its trail. So its just out there now. Another bit of space debris.

I really liked this conclusion. Especially how T'Pol seems to be getting how bad her being assumed to be the captain was, I don't think she would have clocked that at the begining of Broken Bow. Archer would probably not have put aside his pride either. A good character beat for both of them. Poor Hoshi.
 
A great conclusion. You did a good job creating an interesting fight setup and showing the crew being clever with their improvisations and giving a good reason they failed, and the end was a great character moment for T'Pol and Archer. I look forward to seeing how this continues.
 
I look forward to seeing how the crew deals with this double blow of completely failing to get justice for the massacred Axnar ship and only surviving due to the presence of their hated Vulcan officer. This incident provides a pretty clear-cut argument in favor of Humanity being unprepared for the dangers of wider space exploration and still needing to rely on the Vulcans. It will be interesting to see if they try addressing this argument or simply ignore it in favor of more anti-Vulcan bigotry.

Not "no one," Axanarites specifically. The Vulcans are their overlords about as surely as they are Earth's.

My understanding is that the Vulans were at worst former "Overlords". T'Pol described it as the Vulcans intervening to help uplift the Axanarites only to abandon the effort once they proved unable to overcome incessant ethnic conflict. There doesn't seem to be a connection between them at present. The ethics of civilizational uplift and whether a more advanced civilization has a responsibility to prevent ethnic conflict in less-developed regions is hardly clear-cut. We also don't know enough to determine whether this was a failure of good intentions or rampant imperialism.
 
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We also don't know enough to determine whether this was a failure of good intentions or rampant imperialism.

Probably both.

This uplift was so long ago Vulcans probably were still dealing badly with their violent impulses.

Remember the only difference between Vulcans and Romulans is that Vulcans get taught meditation and to curb their violent impulses from a young age while the Romulans are not.

Whatever minor biological differences that exist are honesty minimal.
 
There is no reason to assume that it was before the Surak reformation / conquest of Vulcan. Intervening to assist the development of another civilization (or the use of assistance as a justification for de facto conquest) would be well-within the bounds of morality for a follower of Surakian logic. The Prime Directive and the absolute rejection of interference with less developed civilizations wasn't established until far later in the Star Trek timeline.

My understanding of the historical timeline also places the establishment of the Surakian Vulcan civilization as something that occurred pre-warp. Here is my take on the basic timeline:

1) Vulcan was wracked with incessant wars
2) The world is nearly destroyed in some apocalyptic conflict and almost all civilization is wiped out
3) The Surak Logic cult rose to power from the ruins of the old world and eliminated all rival cultures
3) Warp Travel is fully exploited and the Vulcan people began spreading out to build their de facto space empire
4) Vulcan civilization develops a cultural superiority complex based on their perceived genetic superiority and unique embrace of logic
5) The Vulcans face resistance to their expansion from the Andorians and other rival powers. This is likely intensified by their failure to turn "uplifted" species into compliant followers who can compensate for the comparatively low Vulcan population
6) The Vulcans stumble on Earth in the aftermath of the near-complete destruction of human civilization and begin the "uplift" process. They are motivated by both the moral consideration of helping fellow sentients recover from a self-inflicted doom and an imperialistic desire to exploit humanity as a source of resources and soldiers.
7) There is a major philosophical shift that leads the Vulcan people to reject the xenophobic ways of empire and instead embrace peaceful cooperation as a component of a larger interspecies alliance.

The Romulan exodus from Vulcan could take place either during the warring period or when the followers of Surak are uniting / conquering their planet. It would have to be well-before the Vulcan people began building their empire as by then the followers of Surak are depicted as having eliminated all meaningful competition. This explains why there is no legacy or remembrance of the Romulan people on Vulcan or in the neighboring region.
 
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