Hero-36: No Bully
"Noire, your girlfriend's baaaaaaaack~"

"What, alread--SHE'S NOT MY GIRLFRIEND! WE'RE ACQUAINTENCES AT BEST!"

"Hi Kei! Hi K-Sha!" Neptune waves cheerfully as she steps off the jeep and walks towards them. "Hi--oh, no third person."

"Shiho's still recovering," K-Sha explains.

"Ah. Hope she'll feel better!"

"Me too…"

Noire palms her face and mutters darkly. "Look, are you going to Hightower?"

"Yep!" Neptune turns back and points at her grandfather. Joshua tilts her head and waves weakly back at her. "Grandpa's here too!"

"...Right, I guessed as much." Noire harrumphs and flips her hair behind her. "The Colonel is busy today, so I'll be taking you to Hightower today."

Neptune bats her eyes. "Like a daaate~?"

"Dibs on music," Kei says quickly.

"Decorations!" K-Sha cheers.

"I'LL KILL YOU!" Noire threatens.

"Aw, but wouldn't it be romantic~?"

"Neptune shut your face or I'm cutting your limbs off. I know they grow back!"

Neptune looks brightly at Noire. Noire looks darkly back.

"...Wanna headpat?"

Noire twitches, and draws her sword.

"That's a no, then." Neptune smacks her lips and clasps her hands. "Right, so where do we go?"

"Tram system, underneath. We have a supply tram about to head off, we should be able to hitch a ride. Come on."

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In ages past, when the Goddess unified the continent of Eopra under her rule… Something happened. Neptune is not really sure. But at some point, for some reason, through some method, she ordered the construction of a military base to unify the command structure of the Eopran Army, which was - and she has like five separate testimonies here - really really big. And big things need big brains. Or they get stupid. And, like… fall over and die easily.

Either way the point is apparently that place was named Hightower, and it survived the end of the world, and it is still the primary military base of the Eopran Army - or what's left of it. Apparently there's a city attached to it too, to house the fairly significant civilian population that would follow any large organised military. She has no idea why it is called Hightower, though. Apparently it has a tower. Maybe Luteus got high there. Once. More than once. A lot. It was a number, at least. She's semi-sure.

Oh who is she kidding all this monologuing and exposition doesn't matter she is just so booooored. And since it's just them in the last car, there's nobody to talk to! Grandpa is meditating, and everyone knows how uppity he gets if people interrupt him! Well, actually, he's really chill about it unless you're just bothering him to amuse yourself but that's precisely why she wants to bother him now! Except he'll probably chuck her through the ceiling. She might survive that now, but it probably still hurts.

Where was she? Oh, right. Noire.

"Noire, wanna play cards?"

Noire looks up from her notebook, a pencil in hand. "You brought cards?"

"Yeah, I always pack a set in case… Wait a minute!" Neptune swoops over, and before Noire can hide her notebook the hoodie-wearing spectre is already upon her. "Ohmygoshthat'snotanotebookatall!"

"USE YOUR WORDS!" Noire pushes Neptune off, and straightens herself out as the young Goddess bounces off the ground, nepping each time. "Yeah, I doodle. Got a problem with that?"

Neptune takes a seat beside Noire, still covered in dust. "Actually, I think it's really cool!"

"...Really."

"Yeah! I can't really draw, and every time Nepgear draws it's some sort of boring design blueprint thing of something she tore apart that week before carefully putting back together. And no one else I know who likes drawing is any good at it." Neptune taps her chin, thinking. "Well, actually, there was Manuel. He was alright, I guess."

"What happened to Manuel?" Noire asks.

"Hmmm… I think he died about two or three years ago. Pilgrim caught him and tried to interrogate him about his salvage party. His head was soup by the time we rescued him." Neptune sighs and shakes her head. "Yeah, sad. Anyways, show me your doots?"

"...First off, we should really address the elephant in the room about how fucking horrible Lanca is."

"No!"

Noire flicks Neptune's nose, and the girl recoils dramatically. "Don't interrupt me! Secondly, don't call them doots and I might consider it."

"Doodles it is!" She flops over, hood flapping in the wind behind her, and takes a seat beside her new best friend. They still look good, and the proportions look right, and the designs are a lot more intricate than Neptune expected. There are frills, ribbons, bells, buckles, belts, the whole shebang! Each outfit looks like a masterpiece, just waiting to be sewn.

The detail seems to have all gone into the dresses, though. Well, outfits. They aren't all dresses. But most of them are pretty frilly. Anyways, the heads are blank, the feet aren't shaded, and Neptune doesn't see any faces at all! Like, why draw people if they have no face? And why do all of them strike the same pose? Seems lazy.

"Hey, Noire?"

The Captain-Goddess sighs. "I know, I know… You're going to tease me, aren't you?"

"About faces and hair and lazy posing?" Neptune shakes her head. "Seems mean. Besides, you still put a lot of effort into these!"

"Ah." Her cheeks flush red. "T-Thanks, I guess."

"I'm just saying, the poses are very samey."

"Yeah, I know."

"And by samey I mean--"

"I get it, Neptune." She covers her face and sighs. "I traced them."

"Ah." Neptune nods in understanding. "Still working on anatomy, eh? Same. I hate drawing fingers. And feet. And shoulders. And hips. And arms." She frowns, deep in thought. "Man, I think I hate drawing!"

Noire chuckles despite herself, and forces herself to stop. Neptune looks at her with an odd expression, but Noire just shys away.

"...Do you? Hate drawing, I mean."

Noire looks at her, eyes wide in surprise. "You're... Not going to talk about me laughing?"

Neptune shrugs. "You seem genuinely uncomfortable with it. It's not fun unless everyone's having fun."

"...Thanks." Noire runs a hair through her hair and closes her sketch-notebook with a small clap. "Anyways, you said something about cards?"

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"Gentleman and Neptune, welcome to Hightower. Enjoy your stay, come back when you've had enough of this."

Whatever preconceptions Neptune had of the capital of the Eopran Army - and she had a lot of preconceptions - were completely dashed when they emerged from the station, necks stiff and brains aching from the most high-intensity game of cards ever played by (im)mortal hands. Neptune expected rows and rows of tanks, hundreds of men and women in PT attire running laps, artillery by the dozen, and sandbags and bunkers as far as the eye can see.

What she saw was greenery, and civilisation, and people simply walking around, taking in the sights and enjoying peace. Everyone was in some manner of uniform, of course, ranging from fatigues to combat gear. There were some kids with mops, cleaning the floor under the irate glare of a drill sergeant. More than Crow's Nest, more than even Shelter 01, this place felt like something besides a military base. It felt like a city. But something was off. Desperately, badly off.

Oh, and no one had their gas masks on and they weren't dying in droves. That was pretty weird.

"So…" Neptune turns to Noire, who looks back at her with a cocked eyebrow. "Why's everyone not dying?"

"Hm? Don't be silly, Neptune, people don't die in the open. It's only in the hostile zo…" She collects her words and tries to start over. "We have a weather machine somewhere in Hightower, so the air inside the bubble is safe to breathe. Didn't save Janusburg, but… Well, the shelters there are alright, I guess."

"Janusburg is still a thing, I see," Joshua says aloud with amazement. "Do they still make the chicken nuggets?"

"Depends," Noire replies. "Do you mind if your chicken was squeezed through a nozzle?"

"...Honestly, that's not much of a change."

"Grandpa, you talk about chicken a lot." Neptune then tilts her head. "But what's chicken, and how does it taste?"

"Right! We're getting chicken nuggets on the way back." Joshua pinches his nose and turns to the other young Goddess. "Captain, shall we get going?"

"Sure… I just need to find a guide. Not sure where HQ is, actually…"

"Do you need assistance?"

In the corner of her vision, Neptune spots a dark shape. And as she turns, she curses her laziness, because this would have been the perfect moment to go all dark and noir… Hah, noir! That's hilarious. She should save that for later.

Anyways, standing right there was Agent Ironside, cloak billowing and all. And he was still wearing that damn gas mask. Is it glued on? Does his face just naturally look like that? Is it a Black Sun thing? Questions for the ages…

"Ironside," her grandpa nods, completely unsurprised by his appearance. Considering him, he probably knew he was there the entire time. Noire, meanwhile, almost jumps out of her skin. Almost. It was a close thing, but her epidermis held her bones in. "Sorry for the trouble, Agent."

"Hiya, Ironsides!" Neptune waves. "Oh, Captain something-or-other, what's her face… Iceblock says hi!'

"Major, Lady Purple Heart," Ironsides nods. "And no, no she did not."

"Your relationships are messed up, man."

"We're fellow soldiers, not friends. I don't have to care."

"...Right," Noire groans. "Lead us, Agent. We're on a deadline."

Ironside nods wordlessly, and turns to lead the way.

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Hightower HQ is… Well at this point Neptune has had her mind blown so hard, if she weren't a Goddess she'd be dead. So she'll just go over the basics. Tall tower - probably the tower Luteus got high in, heh brick joke - with guards at the door, a front desk with wood furnishings that can probably be used as a cover emplacement, good sightlines, excellent killbox potential, 7/10 needs more landmines.

No but seriously though the main lobby is nice. Though the peanut packet bowl has the 'empty' note on it, and going by the wrinkliness and Noire's long sigh it's been empty for a looooong time. This is the true cost of the war. No more packet peanuts. For shame.

There are some benches, though! So Neptune and friends head over, and Noire takes a seat, legs folded in a ladylike manner. Not that it matters, she's wearing long pants anyways. But hey, if it looks good!

Neptune goes to sit beside her, already fishing her pack of cards out, when Ironside stops her with a hand on her shoulder.

"Anywhere else and it'd be leeeeewd~"

"Not interested," the faceless bowman responds flatly. "Lady Purple Heart, you and Major Kyrain should go in first."

"Wait, what?" Neptune blinks and tilts her head. "But I thought we were going in together!"

Ironside looks blankly at her. Neptune looks blankly back at him. His mask is really annoying, Neptune decides. Actually, scratch that. Everything Ironside is wearing is annoying. He's got no body language she can read, no facial expressions she can extrapolate, no tone of voice to derive anything from. He's a ghost, flat and white. And while this makes him distinct by being indistinct… It's still annoying!

"Did they send you to fetch us?" Neptune asks. "Are you their little spy?"

"...Neptune." Joshua sighs and palms his face. "Neptune, he is special forces. Of course they sent him. It's a sign of respect."

Ironside turns his apparent gaze to the retired Major, and shrugs.

"Aha!" Neptune declares. "So you are spying on us!"

Ironside shrugs again.

"You stop that! Move your mouth or don't move at all!"

Ironside continues looking at Neptune, his eyes impossible to discern behind his opaque gas mask. Neptune decides that she doesn't like the guy behind the mask, either.

Noire sighs. "Just go in, Neptune. I'll see you later."

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"Ready, Neptune?"

"Probably not."

"...Well, okay then." Joshua breathes, holds his breath, and opens the door to step in.

Neptune didn't know what she was expecting. Maybe a huge council room, with high seats for the Lords General to lord (hah) over their lessers. Maybe like, lots and lots of really big statues of the Lord Generals and Lord Commanders of old, watching judgmentally upon all beneath their gaze, which would probably make a really cool boss fight arena. Oh, and chandeliers. Lots and lots of chandeliers. That are actually gun turrets. Yeah.

Where was she? Oh, right. Well, it isn't a big council room, there aren't any big statues, and the chandeliers aren't gun turrets. And also don't exist, darn. No, it's just a regular conference room, kind of like the ones they had in the Shelter and have at the Refuge, but slightly bigger, with framed photos, and a holoprojector in the center of the table.

And sitting right opposite them are the five Lord Generals. A short woman with eyes like plasma cannons, a slender lady with no fucks to give, a tough girl who looks like she was caught redhanded in the middle of doing something, a guy with glasses, and an old guy hooked up to an IV drip, halfway through a ration bar, looking wide-eyed at the two of them.

She did not see this coming.

"...General Phosphene?" Her grandfather gasps. Joshua Kyrain steps forward and leans on the table, hands propping the rest of him up. "Goddess above, you're still alive?"

The old man swallows and clicks his tongue. "Kids these days, always assuming their old people are dead. I oughta shoot you in the face. Besides, you're no spring chicken yourself." He narrows his eyes, one hand scratching around his wrinkled mouth. "Nice beard, by the way."

"...I'm lost," Neptune says.

Joshua snaps his fingers and points at the old General. "Neptune, that is Lord General Michael Phosphene, Chair of Intelligence. He's technically your great-great-great... " He starts counting on his fingers, "...Great-great-great-great...Great-great-great-grandfather."

The old man clicks his tongue again. "Call me grandpa Mike. Makes me feel young."

"You look like a fossil, sir."

"Would it kill you to call me dad?"

"...Father."

The Lord General shrugs his shoulders. "I'll take it."

"Yeah, uh." The tough lady gestures at their side of the table, joined by the other Lords General. "We're also lost. Explain how you're related to Joshua Kyrain?"

Joshua sighs. "Blah blah blah, yadda yadda... Meh."

"...Oh. Oh." The tough Lady General - Lady General Toth, Chair of Infantry - nods and sits back down, arms folded. "You've… Never mentioned this."

"I assumed he died."

Neptune tilts her head. "I'm still not sure… Grandpa, is he your dad, or your dad-dad?"

"None of those words made sense," Joshua quips back dryly. "Lord General Phosphene is my father-in-law. He's…" He considers the merits of going over it again and decides he does not care. "He would be the father of your grandma Joanna. Who is dead," he adds, preempting another question.

General Michael nods ruefully. "Damn."

"We can catch up later, right now we have a job to do. You sent for us. We're here." Joshua sits down, and Neptune sits beside him. These chairs are really big. Neptune considers transforming, but decides against it. "So, let's talk business."

"We've reviewed Colonel Burton's report," the guy with glasses - sorry, Lord General McGinnis, Chair of Logistics - says, hands clasped as he leans forward against the table. "You want the Eopran Army to attack Lanca and kill the Truth, correct?"

"I would like your help, yes." He turns to Neptune, smiling quietly. "We have a Goddess now. Neptune is here. We can rebuild."

General McGinnis sighs and adjusts his spectacles. "Unfortunately, Master Joshua… That's not possible. A Goddess is not enough."

"Right. The Avatars. Neptune has killed two of them before."

"She is number thirty two," Lady General Toth says brusquely. "One Avatar, two Avatars… How many until she dies?"

"That's not nice, Hannah," the slender lady with no fucks - Lady General Vesta, right - says in a surprisingly kind tone. Maybe her lack of fucks is a work stress thing? Hm. "Sorry, Major, it's been a long day."

"Don't apologise for me, Vesta. I'm not wrong."

Joshua says nothing. He lets his glare do the talking for him.

The short lady - Lady General Voi, Chair of Armor - sighs. "Simply put, Major, a Goddess is not enough. Our forces are stretched thin as is. We are losing this war. How do we know you will succeed where countless others have failed?"

"You have the reserves," Joshua says. "I know you do. I saw the Shamrocks. You have enough for this offensive."

"They are our strategic reserve, Major," General McGinnis says to him. "We do not use it until there is no other option."

"And if you don't kill the Truth there will be no other option. What happened at Crow's Nest will happen again. Everywhere. Simultaneously. Neptune is your last hope."

"That's what we thought with the previous thirty or so CPUs," Lady General Toth retorts. "And yet here we are, squabbling over the scraps of your mother's empire."

Neptune looks back and forth, following the debate as it continues. She has nothing to add, nothing to say that her grandfather isn't already. And Lord General Michael is the same, content to be silent, to listen to the proceedings. Not helping his son… in-law.

Joshua clenches his fists, but he does not stand up or raise his choler. "...How do I convince you?"

"Give us something. Show us that you have more than a Goddess, more than just wanting to save your home." Lady General Toth stands up, hands on the table. They really like the table. "Give us actionable intel, give us resources, give us assets we can use. What can you bring to the table that your predecessors could not? How can we trust that you won't lead us to our deaths?"

Her grandfather opens his mouth, and Lord General Phosphene cranes his head. "Let the girl speak, Joshua."

Six pairs of eyes fall on Neptune, awaiting her response. Asking for whatever she can provide to end a war almost three hundred years long. She glances at Joshua, who pleads with her wordlessly, to not do it. To not use the most obvious card she has. The only card she has.

[] [UNITY] "There are other factions out there, right? I bet there are. It can't just be the Eopran Army. Point me at them, and I can get their help. We can march on Lanca together."

[] [MIGHT] "I'm not like the other Goddesses. I'm descended from Luteus Kyrain. I'm (the very distant) granddaughter of the last Solar Hero. I've survived Lanca since I was a kid. I can sword good. And I could do this before I became a Goddess. I'm strong enough to win. I just need your help."

[] [TRADE] "We have the K for Kyrain. We have the Sun's Refuge. Just help us, and you'll have a base to work from and a Land Crawler from a forgotten time. And you can even keep the Crawler!"

[] [THREAT] "We're going to attack Lanca either way, help or no help. So unless you want to see the Last Solar Hero and another Goddess die in fire (or worse), you have to help us."

[] [NOIRE] "You don't just have one Goddess. You have two. Noire--Captain Emiya, CPU Black Heart, I can work with her. If we work together,, nothing if impossible. The Crow's Nest proves it."

[] [DELAY] "We will find something. Give us time. We can be more."

[] [GOLD] "I am the successor of Luteus Kyrain, CPU Yellow Heart. And she lives on inside me. Your Goddess has returned, and she can lead you to glory. The Rising Sun can end the eternal night. I can prove it. I can show you her, if you would help us."

[] [WRITE-IN] "Uh…"
 
[q] [GOLD] "I am the successor of Luteus Kyrain, CPU Yellow Heart. And she lives on inside me. Your Goddess has returned, and she can lead you to glory. The Rising Sun can end the eternal night. I can prove it. I can show you her, if you would help us."

What could possibly go wrong?
 
Thread marks are weird.

For some reason, i feel pretty sure each of these answer had 5 other failed goddesses saying the same. Even the gold option.
 
[X] [UNITY] "There are other factions out there, right? I bet there are. It can't just be the Eopran Army. Point me at them, and I can get their help. We can march on Lanca together."

because right now, the others would most likely alienate them, and with the past thirty something goddesses dying, threatening them (or implying a threat with might or trade) would not go well. Noire is a good choice if we had of brought it up together but she is also a part of their command. Delay will do nothing but lose us support and Gold will be saying to much and have people try to sacrifice us to throwback for a dead goddess. This is the best of a bad situation unless someone can find a way to convince them otherwise with a write in.
 
Thread marks are weird.

For some reason, i feel pretty sure each of these answer had 5 other failed goddesses saying the same. Even the gold option.
Wouldn't be so sure of the last one, if there a was already a heir apparent that made that announcement we'd probably have the real Luteus running around, or at least heard of such a person. Honestly though given that the previous CPUs will likely have said the other options Gold actually seems like it'll be the only thing to unite Eopran army remnants and whatever other factions there are left.

Edit: Even if there'll be unsavory consequences up ahead as a result.
 
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@Swordomatic: The [SHORTNAME] blocks you have in front of the votes are going to confuse nettally program, which will count each of them as a separate task.

People doing tallies, you can avoid this by either using the built-in tallier, which doesn't support tasks yet, or (IIRC) by disabling task voting in the Quest Options panel of nettally.

I'm thinking a combination of these two:
[] [UNITY] "There are other factions out there, right? I bet there are. It can't just be the Eopran Army. Point me at them, and I can get their help. We can march on Lanca together."
[] [NOIRE] "You don't just have one Goddess. You have two. Noire--Captain Emiya, CPU Black Heart, I can work with her. If we work together,, nothing if impossible. The Crow's Nest proves it."
Something like this:

[] How often do you have two Goddesses at once? Or more? There are other factions out there. There are other Memories out there. All with different specialties and resources to bring to the table. We find them, we unite them, build something greater than the sum of its parts, and we march on Lanca together.
 
[X] [UNITY] "There are other factions out there, right? I bet there are. It can't just be the Eopran Army. Point me at them, and I can get their help. We can march on Lanca together."
 
@Swordomatic: The [SHORTNAME] blocks you have in front of the votes are going to confuse nettally program, which will count each of them as a separate task.

People doing tallies, you can avoid this by either using the built-in tallier, which doesn't support tasks yet, or (IIRC) by disabling task voting in the Quest Options panel of nettally.

I'm thinking a combination of these two:


Something like this:

[] How often do you have two Goddesses at once? Or more? There are other factions out there. There are other Memories out there. All with different specialties and resources to bring to the table. We find them, we unite them, build something greater than the sum of its parts, and we march on Lanca together.
I'll have to figure something out that doesn't confuse the vote tally then. Thanks!
 
Remember how those Avatars said that Noire and Nep were the 33rd and 35th Goddesses? I think I might have an idea, expanding off of Vebayst's suggestion.

[X] Dr. Snark

"You're saying that we only have one Goddess? Because Noi-Captain Emiya combined with me would make two. That can't be something that happens often, and I know there are others."

"How? Back at Crow's Nest before Captain Emiya and I killed them, the Avatars we fought declared that she and I were the 33rd and 35th Goddesses, a fact that can be confirmed by the Captain if you want to be sure. That means that there are probably two others close by, and if the Captain and I are any indication, they're probably fighting tooth and nail against the Truth right now alongside groups like yours and mine."

*when objections are inevitably raised about the reliability of this information* "We both know that the Truth is more mechanical than man. The Captain and I aren't 'Noire' and 'Neptune' to them, we're just numbers 33 and 35. To them any information gained about other Godddesses is irrelevant; we're already dead in their eyes."

"So how about that? Instead of two Goddesses taking on the Truth...you could have four. Not to mention the forces they could bring with them to help us defeat the Truth for good."

"If we work together, we could find two new Goddesses instead of two dead ones. The Captain and I combined were able to destroy four Crusades' worth of troops at the Crow's Nest after we killed the two Avatars leading them. Just imagine what four Goddesses combined could do."
 
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Remember how those Avatars said that Noire and Nep were the 33rd and 35th Goddesses? I think I might have an idea, expanding off of Vebayst's suggestion.
I like the idea, but it carries the obvious flaw of the fact that it could just be that there were two goddesses who lived and died without the remnant ever hearing about them.
 
I like the idea, but it carries the obvious flaw of the fact that it could just be that there were two goddesses who lived and died without the remnant ever hearing about them.

Honestly I'm fully aware of that, but I highly doubt any other arguments would fly with these guys' pessimism. This at least has a shot of getting us some official (or more likely unofficial) support to help track Blanc and Vert our mystery Goddesses down, and will hopefully increase the chances of us getting support for the final push.

I'm not expecting a miracle here, but hopefully we'll be able to prove ourselves right and they'd be willing to be more supportive when the time comes.
 
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[] [GOLD] "I am the successor of Luteus Kyrain, CPU Yellow Heart. And she lives on inside me. Your Goddess has returned, and she can lead you to glory. The Rising Sun can end the eternal night. I can prove it. I can show you her, if you would help us."

Nobo--

[q] [GOLD] "I am the successor of Luteus Kyrain, CPU Yellow Heart. And she lives on inside me. Your Goddess has returned, and she can lead you to glory. The Rising Sun can end the eternal night. I can prove it. I can show you her, if you would help us."

What could possibly go wrong?

:mad:

[X] [UNITY] "There are other factions out there, right? I bet there are. It can't just be the Eopran Army. Point me at them, and I can get their help. We can march on Lanca together."

Pudding is sort of like glue!
 
Remember how those Avatars said that Noire and Nep were the 33rd and 35th Goddesses? I think I might have an idea, expanding off of Vebayst's suggestion.

[X] Dr. Snark

"You're saying that we only have one Goddess? Because Noi-Captain Emiya combined with me would make two. That can't be something that happens often, and I know there are others."

"How? Back at Crow's Nest before Captain Emiya and I killed them, the Avatars we fought declared that she and I were the 33rd and 35th Goddesses, a fact that can be confirmed by the Captain if you want to be sure. That means that there are probably two others close by, and if the Captain and I are any indication, they're probably fighting tooth and nail against the Truth right now alongside groups like yours and mine."

*when objections are inevitably raised about the reliability of this information* "We both know that the Truth is more mechanical than man. The Captain and I aren't 'Noire' and 'Neptune' to them, we're just numbers 33 and 35. To them any information gained about other Godddesses is irrelevant; we're already dead in their eyes."

"So how about that? Instead of two Goddesses taking on the Truth...you could have four. Not to mention the forces they could bring with them to help us defeat the Truth for good."

"If we work together, we could find two new Goddesses instead of two dead ones. The Captain and I combined were able to destroy four Crusades' worth of troops at the Crow's Nest after we killed the two Avatars leading them. Just imagine what four Goddesses combined could do."

...Only one other goddess.

No.34.

You miscounted.
 
I'm bad at math but I'm going to pretend that the Eopran Army thinking Neptune is the 32nd is intentional. :>

Welp. Better than nothing I guess...

Honestly looking at all of the regular options...they all suck in their own unique ways. Let's take a look at each of them and break them down! (Because honestly I'm bored and maybe it'll encourage people to try more write-ins).

[] [UNITY] "There are other factions out there, right? I bet there are. It can't just be the Eopran Army. Point me at them, and I can get their help. We can march on Lanca together."

Look at Nep, leading a scrappy band of adventurers with surprisingly high combat abilities and nothing to lose! Aaaaaand odds are at least a third of the last 30-ish Goddesses had similar entourages and all died anyway. Would you honestly believe the 11th person to tell you that "we can totally win this, guys" after all of that?

[] [MIGHT] "I'm not like the other Goddesses. I'm descended from Luteus Kyrain. I'm (the very distant) granddaughter of the last Solar Hero. I've survived Lanca since I was a kid. I can sword good. And I could do this before I became a Goddess. I'm strong enough to win. I just need your help."

They have Noire, they would not care. Not to mention that this would probably get us laughed out of the building since I'm sure other Goddesses probably said something themselves before getting stabbed in the gut by a squad of Avatars.

[] [TRADE] "We have the K for Kyrain. We have the Sun's Refuge. Just help us, and you'll have a base to work from and a Land Crawler from a forgotten time. And you can even keep the Crawler!"

Haha, no. We're not handing over our primary source of intel gathering, let alone for what else the K for Kyrain could do once we get it fully functional. Besides we told Josh to leave the army for a reason, and we're not walking back on that.

[] [THREAT] "We're going to attack Lanca either way, help or no help. So unless you want to see the Last Solar Hero and another Goddess die in fire (or worse), you have to help us."

They'd roll their eyes, point to Noire, and tell us to shut the fuck up.

[] [NOIRE] "You don't just have one Goddess. You have two. Noire--Captain Emiya, CPU Black Heart, I can work with her. If we work together,, nothing if impossible. The Crow's Nest proves it."

Okay, this looks like one of the better options, but remember that they're asking us what we can provide for them. These guys aren't going to want to risk Noire unless they have a damn good reason, and just saying that Noire can help us probably won't win us any favors.

[] [DELAY] "We will find something. Give us time. We can be more."

Do I really need to explain this one?

[] [GOLD] "I am the successor of Luteus Kyrain, CPU Yellow Heart. And she lives on inside me. Your Goddess has returned, and she can lead you to glory. The Rising Sun can end the eternal night. I can prove it. I can show you her, if you would help us."

Hooooo boy. Even if we considered used this as a desperation tactic I'm still fairly certain that this would get us shot instead of doing any good. Remember that there was a lot of strife caused by Goddesses affected by Throwback a while back; odds are the guys we're talking to know that and aren't interested in a repeat.
 
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Hooooo boy. Even if we considered used this as a desperation tactic I'm still fairly certain that this would get us shot instead of doing any good. Remember that there was a lot of strife caused by Goddesses affected by Throwback a while back; odds are the guys we're talking to know that and aren't interested in a repeat.
None of these guys would even know of the Aftershock Crisis and the Throwback mechanic, and even if they did know they haven't shot Neptune yet, especially since her relationship to Joshua (and thus to Luteus) is no secret at all. Only the closest confidantes of the CPUs were allowed to even know of it.
 
Picking Gold might also encourage them to cause Throwback and return Luteus for real.

Incidentally, the new OpenSSL update kinda borked my pCloud client, so if the eBooks aren't updated, you know the reason. I've done the workaround, but do tell if something's wrong.
 
They do know about Throwback. Joshua stated earlier that they'll want their goddess back and will start trying to get Nep overwritten by Luteus to accomplish that.

We probably want to be playing to Nep's mechanical strengths without our answer. Loldiplomacy and good intrigue favor the Unity and Noire options.
 
They're either testing us, are legitimately undecided, or have already made their decision and are just doing this for appearances sake.

The first one; Fuck them. Second one; eh. Third one; Fuck them and they can sit here and fester then.

There being three, possibly four, goddesses active right now is the only possible thing I can see getting them to change their position.

Militarily the Crawler is already up as our contribution pretty much, even if we don't trade it, and we'll want the other factions in as well, the bigger our safety margin the better.

And Neptune's probably one of the only ones that could pull of wrangling them all together with her Diplomancy.

And the Einherjars...

I honestly want to just say fuck them, but no one deserves to have their families farmed like that.

The problem being weighing how much worth it is to gather the factions versus training ourself up as much as possible. A Combat 8 Goddess would roflstomp pretty much anything mortals could bring to bear.

And hunting down the other goddesses (who might or might not be with said other factions).

I mean, if we stick to ramming our combat score as high as we can we could possibly hold the line against Truth single-handedly, which might be enough to get them to stand with us anyway, but would also let us say "Fuck you" in the mean time. But we'd have to stick to training for more than a few turns straight with both our mom and Lusteus in swording and goddess combat respectively.
 
"Noire, your girlfriend's baaaaaaaack~"

"What, alread--SHE'S NOT MY GIRLFRIEND! WE'RE ACQUAINTENCES AT BEST!"
"ALSO I TOTALLY WASN'T IMAGINING MAKING OUT WITH HER WHY WOULD YOU ASK?"
"Neptune shut your face or I'm cutting your limbs off. I know they grow back!"

Neptune looks brightly at Noire. Noire looks darkly back.

"...Wanna headpat?"

Noire twitches, and draws her sword.
So clearly, more headpats are needed. Neptune, you know what to do.
Something like this:
I like. We can even mix in Dr. Snark's observation that the Avatars' slip means there are very likely other Goddesses around right now. And there's no one in Lanca who's got a better chance and convincing them to ally with us than miss Diplomacy 23 herself, NepNep.

[Mix] [UNITY] "There are other factions out there, right? I bet there are. It can't just be the Eopran Army. Point me at them, and I can get their help. We can march on Lanca together."

[Mix] [NOIRE] "You don't just have one Goddess. You have two. Noire--Captain Emiya, CPU Black Heart, I can work with her. If we work together,, nothing if impossible. The Crow's Nest proves it."

[X] How often do you have two Goddesses at once? Or more? There are other factions out there. There are other Memories out there. All with different specialties and resources to bring to the table. We find them, we unite them, build something greater than the sum of its parts, and we march on Lanca together. The Avatars called us 33 and 35. There are two others around now. What do you think four Goddesses can do?
 
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[X] How often do you have two Goddesses at once? Or more? There are other factions out there. There are other Memories out there. All with different specialties and resources to bring to the table. We find them, we unite them, build something greater than the sum of its parts, and we march on Lanca together. The Avatars called us 33 and 35. There are two others around now. What do you think four Goddesses can do?

Because Nep is the great unifier. And Noire only does everything.
 
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[x] Strypgia

That addendum looks good.

I think that "what do you bring to the table" is a reasonable point to respond to, as brought up by @Dr. Snark. Do we need more vote, maybe something quickly explaining that our specialty is Boldly Nepping Where No Nep Has Nepped Before, or will that happen automatically?
 
[X] How often do you have two Goddesses at once? Or more? There are other factions out there. There are other Memories out there. All with different specialties and resources to bring to the table. We find them, we unite them, build something greater than the sum of its parts, and we march on Lanca together. The Avatars called us 33 and 35. There are two others around now. What do you think four Goddesses can do?
 
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