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Halkegenia Online Thread 7: "Arrun Noir"

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Quickshot0 said:
I didn't get the impression that Kirito was quick to weapons at all. Asuna seemed quicker to threaten with weapons then him really, one can even see this in how she displays her anger to Kirito when he doesn't go along with her plans. As for using ones brains, I don't know there either, isn't it usually Kirito who figures out the biggest mysteries?

As such considering Asuna's observed behaviour, I'm rather more concerned that she would fly off the handle then Kirito.


Admittedly this is just my interpretation of her character, but it seems to fit what one can observe of her. (She does seem a little more timid when not in a virtual world though, so how that would affect things exactly I'm not sure)
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I never said neither of them never used both, just that they preferred one over the other. For rebuttal, Asuna did plan most -50 floors worth- dungeon raids, and Kirito was rather quick to accept the duel with Heathcliff.

Kirito was also the only one of the two to kill in the Laughing Coffin raid.
 
It's a good thing the omake ended as it did, otherwise I my teeth would've rotted instead of me going "WHERE'S THE CONTINUATION?!?!" :eek:

Yui is gonna have to [<Understand]> and not just know in an encyclopedic way the concept of [<Romantic Love]> sooner or later :)
 
Mahrac said:
Kirito was also the only one of the two to kill in the Laughing Coffin raid.
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Actually, I don't believe that the author mentioned whether or not Asuna killed someone. Asuna did mention that she might have.However considering her reaction to Kirito almost getting killed, it is somewhat unlikely.

Of course the Laughing Coffin raid is surrounded with mystery; we only have Kirito's not very reliable word on what happened.

Edit @Kirito and Asuna's personalities: Don't forget that Kirito was fine with letting Yui travel with them into a high level dungeon. Unless there is a direct threat against Yui's safety, he is fine with it.
Edit 2: Kirito is lenient unless there is actual danger. Remember Phantom Bullet? Because there was a slight possibility of being killed he didn't tell Asuna. When they were in the dungeon he figured he and Asuna could handle anything. When the Deadly Scythe showed up he wanted Asuna to run.
 
Mahrac said:
I wasn't around when the others were made so I don't know what was said then, but I will say this. I find both of them likely of them to come after me with all the tools at their disposal. It just seems that Asuna uses her brain more that Kirito whereas Kirito uses his sword more than Asuna.

Personally, I'd rather deal with the one slightly less likely to hold a pointy object to my body. (yes, I realize Asuna still has a high possibility of doing so)

I'd also argue that Asuna being the one that uses her brain more would make her less likely to fly off the handle right then and there
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No, Quickshot has a point, Asuna is quick to pull her martial superiority over people; at one point she threatens Kirito with a cooking knife so they can party together. Kirito? He's way too laid back to do anything other than sit you down and talk you into submission.
 
spaceman1997 said:
Actually, I don't believe that the author mentioned whether or not Asuna killed someone. Asuna did mention that she might have.However considering her reaction to Kirito almost getting killed, it is somewhat unlikely.

Of course the Laughing Coffin raid is surrounded with mystery; we only have Kirito's not very reliable word on what happened.

Edit @Kirito and Asuna's personalities: Don't forget that Kirito was fine with letting Yui travel with them into a high level dungeon. Unless there is a direct threat against Yui's safety, he is fine with it.
Edit 2: Kirito is lenient unless there is actual danger. Remember Phantom Bullet? Because there was a slight possibility of being killed he didn't tell Asuna. When they were in the dungeon he figured he and Asuna could handle anything. When the Deadly Scythe showed up he wanted Asuna to run.
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True on the Laughing Coffin point.

Don't forget that there's more than one type of harm though. Since Yui is fairly naive at experiencing emotion rather than analyzing it, I'd think both of them would be over protective.



Zeful said:
No, Quickshot has a point, Asuna is quick to pull her martial superiority over people; at one point she threatens Kirito with a cooking knife so they can party together. Kirito? He's way too laid back to do anything other than sit you down and talk you into submission.
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While she did use a knife, I personally think it was withholding the tea that made him give in.

now seriously: I still think that talk would have a slightly better chance of there being a sword involved than if Asuna walked in.
 
Mahrac said:
True on the Laughing Coffin point.

Don't forget that there's more than one type of harm though. Since Yui is fairly naive at experiencing emotion rather than analyzing it, I'd think both of them would be over protective.



While she did use a knife, I personally think it was withholding the tea that made him give in.

now seriously: I still think that talk would have a slightly better chance of there being a sword involved than if Asuna walked in.
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Weighing in on this more out of finding it fun than any serious argument.

I think that both Kirito and Asuna would be generally pretty protective of Yui, with Asuna being more codalling but willing to let Yui experience the emotional knocks of childhood, while Kirito is more willing to let Yui explore and take her physical knocks (the little ones that are part of growing up, you bet your ass Kirito and Asuna be their with swords in hand if Yui was ever in real trouble).

My reasoning for Asuna being the more easy going parent only extends to very specific things. Yui being friends with a boy, one who is mannerly and respectful, probably wouldn't bother Asuna too much, and she'd probably encourage any sort of healthy friendship between Yui and other children who will be her peers as she grows up.

And if Yui starts to gradually grow fond of one of these boys, who is still mannerly and respectful, and growing into a young man, I don't think Asuna would intervene so long as channels were kept open and Yui remained honest with her.

I view this as a consequence of Asuna not wanting to have the sort of distant relationship with Yui that she seemed to have with her own mother. Instead, the two are closer and confide more in one another as a matter of course.

Kirito on the other hand, while usually very laid back and reasonable, seems to have a Berserk button when it comes to Asuna, Suguha, and presumably Yui. It's not that he doesn't like Bardiche, it's that Yui is his little girl and therefore Bardiche must die (Or accept a punch to the crotch, take your pick :p) .
 
Not long after this arc. Remember that I said Yui gets changed into a [<Maeve]>. That should happen around the same time Louise gets her Familiar.
 
Triggerhappy said:
Not long after this arc. Remember that I said Yui gets changed into a [<Maeve]>. That should happen around the same time Louise gets her Familiar.
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Do tell more.

On second thought, write faster, please. That seems like a much more fun way to find out.
 
Mahrac said:
Do tell more.

On second thought, write faster, please. That seems like a much more fun way to find out.
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Working on the next snip tonight. (Yard work is hard, and sweaty in SoCal :(). It'll introduce Agnes and set up some complications for Louise and KoKo.

My only hint for Yui. The implement of the change has already been introduced. (And it isn't the Chalice).
 
femanon said:
GM card. calling it.
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Could be a combo of that and her currently semi-pixie nature (which includes blossoming). Remember that in all the future views by TH when she is a Maeve she is never seen as a pixie. So what it could be is pixie blossoming capability along with wanting to be like her Maeve mother and she has been trying to get a handshake/comm line/link to Cardinal with the GM card.
 
Triggerhappy said:
Working on the next snip tonight. (Yard work is hard, and sweaty in SoCal :(). It'll introduce Agnes and set up some complications for Louise and KoKo.

My only hint for Yui. The implement of the change has already been introduced. (And it isn't the Chalice).
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I just ran through a few possibilities, and I hope it isn't the one I'm thinking of right now. I'd hate to be the janitor cleaning the results from that situation.

Curious query of self-amusement, what happens if two Kofus enter the same room? Because I did a random doodle of what if the canon Kofu meets the Kofu from my head before they brawl for the title of Swordsmith Supreme (You can't have two best swordsmiths, there can only be one.). They're about as different as night and day in terms of clothing and hair and all though. (For starters, the one from my head wears a heat-resistant casual yukata, has a sarashi, and has platform boots with steel tips, look at Luca Truelywaath for some idea of those shoes but add steel coverings.)
 
I think Canon Kofu would laugh in sympathy for the woman stuck with that as her 'working' footwear.
 
spaceman1997 said:
Actually, I don't believe that the author mentioned whether or not Asuna killed someone. Asuna did mention that she might have.However considering her reaction to Kirito almost getting killed, it is somewhat unlikely.

Of course the Laughing Coffin raid is surrounded with mystery; we only have Kirito's not very reliable word on what happened.
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Actually it is stated in story the Asuna's first kill was actually in Albion. Forget which chapter but it was the fight where she stabbed that guy in the throat.
 
Triggerhappy said:
I think Canon Kofu would laugh in sympathy for the woman stuck with that as her 'working' footwear.
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That did occur, and then there was the demonstration of why she has platform shoes. (For stepping on people, to avoid Lisbeth's foot, adding force to kicks. and the heel drop...) Needless to say the blacksmith brawl started up after that in the process the boots turned out to be collapsible (I have no idea why I drew platform shoes that can change into sabatons.) before the brawl turned into a four-sword-ensemble versus a sword-and-sheath fight, and then said fight ended after Lisbeth walks in with a hammer...

What an odd thing to doodle on paper and in my head.
 
deadheadzed said:
Kamen Rider YY: All Faeries vs. Dai-Reconquista?
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Thought process:

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Somewhere there is an Ice aspected Undine with a love of toku and delusions of grandeur.
 
HalO 2131 Chapter 2 Part 1 - Chapter 1 Part's 1, 2, 3, 4

Exobiologist Dr. Aki Ross VR log May 7th 2131 Planet "Unknown" Dimensional coordinates 42.219.31

Dr. Ozu and Grey have made the trip back to Kepler base to report the attack. Everybody is extremely on edge now, but Grey spent the better part of last night disabling the spiders combat limiters and ALICE has recalled all the drones to build up a real time perimeter around the camp. Personally I think she's a bit embarrassed that the attack caught her flat footed the way it did.

In addition to that we've had Dr. House checking us out on and off all day to make sure there were no side effects to whatever was used to knock us out. So far though other then Dr. Yular who was in the shower at the time and broke his ankle there has been nothing on any of our scans. Which is really worrying the Doctor given his insistence that there should have been some sign of whatever was used still in our systems.

We have had at least one interesting discovery from this entire mess. In the remains of the [Sand Giants] we discovered a tiny mass of still moving sand. After conducting a thorough scan of the creature for safeties sake it was deemed worthwhile to bring it back to my lab. Currently it's residing in one of my desert ecology's. It seemed a bit upset at that at first going so far to as to form crude manipulators to pound against the nanotube laced glass. Eventually though it settled down with what I can only describe as a huff on one of the small sandstone outcroppings.

Given that we are under lock-down until Dr. Ozu get's back at least I have something to take up my time other then going over the already gathered data. Dr. Brooke has already started pestering me to see if he can join in on the study given that the creature seems to be made totally out of sand. So far though I have declined his requests, because while he is one of the best geologists around he has a distinct lack of concern for personal boundaries that tends to grate on my nerves.
 
NecroMechanoid said:
I'm as perplexed as those scientists. Whats is that sand thing?
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If they've only reached a 1940s level of technology, chances are that a large number of the 1st generation Fae are still around. That awkward moment when you realize the 'ETs' have valid social security numbers.

Also, chances that the "Aliens" have a few tricks/materials that should be outright impossible for their tech level. Remember that Legendary level swords can cut through lesser steel blades without dulling. (My personal opinion is that the very far future of Halk Online is going to look something like Nanoha with less Magical Girl design aesthetic :p)
 
NecroMechanoid said:
I'm as perplexed as those scientists. Whats is that sand thing?

Edit: Its some sort of spirit, isn't it?
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Basically it's a fragment of an Earth Spirit that was accidentally created when the two larger ones that the Elf called up were blown apart. I have many a plan for it in the future of my omake. :)
 
zero_traveler said:
Somewhere there is an Ice aspected Undine with a love of toku and delusions of grandeur.
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We have pixies for that... why not an ice-magic Pixie with sub-zero intelligence but fiery passion and megalomania?
 
Triggerhappy said:
Not long after this arc. Remember that I said Yui gets changed into a [<Maeve]>. That should happen around the same time Louise gets her Familiar.
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I just thought of something. Who says the framiliar isn't the one killing it with fire. Remember Yui's [Object Deletion Tool]? Technically she killed the Deadly Scythe with fire. Louise might want to start running.
 
Triggerhappy said:
Also, chances that the "Aliens" have a few tricks/materials that should be outright impossible for their tech level. Remember that Legendary level swords can cut through lesser steel blades without dulling. (My personal opinion is that the very far future of Halk Online is going to look something like Nanoha with less Magical Girl design aesthetic :p)
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Halkegenia becomes Midchilda? :eek:

Well, if Hegent has her way, that might really come to pass, complete with Time-Space Administration Bureau... >_>
 
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