Halkegenia Online Thread 7: "Arrun Noir"

Well, I guess those prove that not all Elves are bishounen pretty boys. :p
 
an NPC said:
Man, what is it with humans and giving everything the proverbial middle finger in myth anyway?
We're screaming in the dark. Lashing out and trying to make ourselves seem bigger.

Existence is a difficult thing to face, both in its vast magnitude and in its minuscule importance. Is it really so surprising that many groups of humans opt for the disharmonious route of thought? Unfortunately we had just enough success at that route to think ourselves on top, but not nearly enough to actually be able to supplant reality with our varying delusions.

It is a funny thing that we have never yet faced reality as it is in any large number. Whether fairy tales or the nonsense of economics we struggle mightily not to face the unthinking simplicity of existence without some more coherent "plan" being imagined for it all.
Triggerhappy said:
I imagine is code for I'm not sure how to introduce it. :(

Seriously people, new topic, how to avoid mind screwing Hinagiku's little brain.
Given her genuine faith (ick) I would guess that the Shamans may very well see it as Yggdrasil acting to manifest itself in the world.
It is important to remember that with magic being involved already and multiple worlds confirmed this is entirely plausible as an answer.

On the other hand it is vaguely possible that they could accept Yggdrasil as a lesser force than they had thus far seen her, but I find that much more doubtful given how widespread and solid their belief is.

I rather think that the best and most bizarre response would be for her to prove her Yggdrasil Priestess credentials by taking it totally in stride.
 
Triggerhappy said:
Or a creepy, perverted, borderline psychotic shut in. Well, good thing she has Liz watching after her.
Figures. I had a remote guess she'd be a shut-in at least.
Triggerhappy said:
Well, I guess those prove that not all Elves are bishounen pretty boys. :p
Those elves from the Elder Scrolls would like to have a word with you. They're about as bishounen as a rusty steel pipe.

Color coding for Kofu selected, white, grey, brown and steel with the occasional red marking. Seeing as no one wanted to give any suggestions for Kofu's emblem, this time it is going to be a turkey after winning the decision between a Valkyrie of swords in the finals for being Kofu's emblem. With pants put out of the way she gets a skirt , medium length, above knee with greaves covering stockings and steel-toe boots. A steel-colored one-piece breastplate with a thick sleeveless underneath it. Finish the touch with big armored gloves (Not gauntlets.) and then equip her waist sheathes over it. and maybe throw in some side protection over the skirt.

I seem to trigger an auto-skip-message-function whenever I ask about Violet Hearts, so I have no choice but to give up on that question.

Anyone has any other suggestions they want to add on?
spaceman1997 said:
Vaermina, what series is that from?
That would be Zero no Tsukaima itself.
 
Anzer'ke said:
Given her genuine faith (ick) I would guess that the Shamans may very well see it as Yggdrasil acting to manifest itself in the world.
It is important to remember that with magic being involved already and multiple worlds confirmed this is entirely plausible as an answer.

On the other hand it is vaguely possible that they could accept Yggdrasil as a lesser force than they had thus far seen her, but I find that much more doubtful given how widespread and solid their belief is.

I rather think that the best and most bizarre response would be for her to prove her Yggdrasil Priestess credentials by taking it totally in stride.
Well, nobody said that the Pixies view Yggdrasil as omnipotent or even capable of acting directly (direct action is supposed to be their job) nor did they believe that Yggdrasil was all of existence as Oberon and Titania had to come from somewhere else . . . So they're ahead of the curve their at least.
 
Exsequens said:
Figures. I had a remote guess she'd be a shut-in at least.



Those elves from the Elder Scrolls would like to have a word with you. They're about as bishounen as a rusty steel pipe.

Color coding for Kofu selected, white, grey, brown and steel with the occasional red marking. Seeing as no one wanted to give any suggestions for Kofu's emblem, this time it is going to be a turkey after winning the decision between a Valkyrie of swords in the finals for being Kofu's emblem. With pants put out of the way she gets a skirt , medium length, above knee with greaves covering stockings and steel-toe boots. A steel-colored one-piece breastplate with a thick sleeveless underneath it. Finish the touch with big armored gloves (Not gauntlets.) and then equip her waist sheathes over it. and maybe throw in some side protection over the skirt.

I seem to trigger an auto-skip-message-function whenever I ask about Violet Hearts, so I have no choice but to give up on that question.

Anyone has any other suggestions they want to add on?
This is what I get for trying to answer these questions at 1:00 AM

Kofu definitely wears pants while smithing and shorts most of the rest of the time. She might have a skirt . . . somewhere, it's probably under a very large pile of dirty socks and underwear. White and red sounds right for hte color scheme thought I always imagined a compass rose of swords and daggers for her Logo. (Two swords for the cardinal directions and two daggers for the SE, SW, NE, NW)

Also, I never actually gave the Violet Hearts much thought for uniform design because, honestly, the small guilds usually didn't have unique uniforms.
 
Triggerhappy said:
This is what I get for trying to answer these questions at 1:00 AM

Kofu definitely wears pants while smithing and shorts most of the rest of the time. She might have a skirt . . . somewhere, it's probably under a very large pile of dirty socks and underwear. White and red sounds right for hte color scheme thought I always imagined a compass rose of swords and daggers for her Logo. (Two swords for the cardinal directions and two daggers for the SE, SW, NE, NW)

Also, I never actually gave the Violet Hearts much thought for uniform design because, honestly, the small guilds usually didn't have unique uniforms.
1 AM in the morning? Gosh, that's a dark time. In my case, that's still quite early for the night, back when I was drawing Morgiana and balancing work, I used to not sleep 4 days in a week (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday.) and then go on 3 hours of sleep the other 3 days working. Now I sleep at 2-4 AM each day even if I have work to do and wake up the next morning none the worse.

So the only thing to change to change is to give her shorts and a sword-compass emblem. She's going to look like a Korean fantasy hero by the end of this, no takes on whether that's a good or a bad thing.

P.S.: I was in fact, serious about the turkey. There's even a roasted turkey variation.

Ironically the original question was, did Violet Hearts have a guild uniform, and if they did, if you had any plans for the design. That just devolved into me asking if they had any at all after asking about 2-4 times. But I guess I should be thankful my suspicions and hypothesis was confirmed.

I'm sorry if I'm frustrating you with such questions, it's a habit I picked up and I get a bit uncomfortable when working without complete information or confirmation.
 
Nah its fine. I should be more attentative (I wont be . . . but I should!)
 
an NPC said:
Something to consider:

In general, folklore is mean and horrible and filled with mean and horrible monsters because the world really is mean and horrible. But as usual, in folklore and in myth, humanity tries and succeeds at either beating them with either skill or wit, or finding peace with them via diplomacy or ingenuity.

It's rather telling that most of the time, humans also try to find ways to bed them. And sometimes, they succeed. (Which usually causes even more problems, unsurprisingly.)

It's just a matter of time now...
Legends, myths and fairy tales do not exist to tell you that monsters exist. You knew it beyond doubt before you could speak or crawl, before you understood what you were told. The stories exist to tell you that monsters can be defeated.

There's a quote somewhere to that effect.
 
Faraway-R said:
Legends, myths and fairy tales do not exist to tell you that monsters exist. You knew it beyond doubt before you could speak or crawl, before you understood what you were told. The stories exist to tell you that monsters can be defeated.

There's a quote somewhere to that effect.
Neil Gaiman said:
Fairy tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.
 
I just came across this picture, and immediately thought: That's *got* to be the Arrun Noir version of Agnes Chevalier de Milan. The firearm was no doubt confiscated from a [<Romalian smuggler]> ;).


(It also comes in a 2560x1600 version here - click *enlarge wallpaper* then go to *options*)

Edit: Image link fixed
 
found this image, is what I think of when i imagination the spriggan capital ( though not as high tech)
a dark ( but not evil) looking city, naturally hidden form the world.

try to imagination it with medieval buildings in instead of futuristic ones.

this one work?
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
found this image, is what I think of when i imagination the spriggan capital ( though not as high tech)
a dark ( but not evil) looking city, naturally hidden form the world.
~snip~
this one work?
Hmmm, it might work! Just add some An American piramids, to give it south american feel. Some water in the lava's place, more gold and green.

A bit of this:


And your picture would be PERFECT!
 
Both work on my end.
Anyway to me the picture seems more like what the Imp capitol looks like. It's a lot more mountainous than the Springian capitol.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
found this image, is what I think of when i imagination the spriggan capital ( though not as high tech)
a dark ( but not evil) looking city, naturally hidden form the world.
You see the Spriggan Capital briefly in the anime, its center is a very tall Mayan like pyramid in a forest region. So I'm afraid it's nothing as cool looking as that. ;)
Triggerhappy said:
I imagine is code for I'm not sure how to introduce it. :(

Seriously people, new topic, how to avoid mind screwing Hinagiku's little brain.
The best method to go about this is probably to work in phases, so that they don't form unfortunate conclusions, or reject the explanation as being to far out there to take seriously.

For instance you could thus first explain the true nature of Yui; this would let them get used to the idea of an artificial being, that's effectively really not different and considered the same, while at the same time getting comfortable with the idea that such beings are treated the exact same as everyone else as well.

You could then explain that Yui comes from an artificial dream world made Aincrad, where she had a function given by the primary 'spirit' controlling that worlds structure.

From there the leap to describing Alfheim as another artificial world, that got materialised in to reality would seem less far fetched. The primary controlling spirit would still thus be an important god in a sense, and their background wouldn't be seen as problematic either. Because well, other artificial beings aren't considered a big deal either. This would also fit with the Fairies wish to return home and their various other strange affectations then.


I guess they'd still suffer a bit of an existential crisis regardless though.
 
HalkO GaoGaiGar: The Dragon Twins

"Rose! Rose?" The Sylph aide called, trying to find her wayward tourist. "Where are you Ros...Oh, there you are."

She had come upon the tiny philosopher in one of the less populated hangars, looking at two huge cubes of shaped stone, one White with a large ice crystal emblazoned upon it, and the other black, with a large flame emblem affixed. She was apparently conversing with the two cubes, as the symbols would flash every now and again, in time with speech that seemed to come from all around.

"We were lucky to survive, but they tell us we should have new bodies soon."

"Even if we are stuck like this now, that Garden was saved."

Rose was silent for a moment. "3G is treating you girls well, right?"

"Of course!" came the simultaneous reply.

"There is nothing to worry about, Elder Sister. We knew the risks when we volunteered as Pilots." The ice-marked block said quietly.

"...And very soon, we will be able to help Sister Gail!" the flame-marked block crowed.

Rose turned to her escort, waiting quietly at the door. "Then, I will talk to you Little Sisters again soon, alright?"

"See you!" The two blocks chirped.

As Rose landed on the shoulder of her escort, she turned her head away. The Sylph quietly moved on to their next stop, pointedly ignoring the slight wetness she felt on her shoulder. "Ah, next is the command center!" She began spritely, "Commander Taiga is probably there at the moment."

"Ah...g-good." Rose began lamely, as she composed herself. "Let's get there quickly. I'll probably have dozens of forms to fill out for the facility by the time I get back."


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

What do you think for those two?

Fire trucks is out, and I've been going with Animal forms, so...Polar bear and Black Bear? thoughts?
 
Quickshot0 said:
You see the Spriggan Capital briefly in the anime, its center is a very tall Mayan like pyramid in a forest region. So I'm afraid it's nothing as cool looking as that. ;)
It was Spriggan starting zone, not Capital :D
But Look at Jyn Ryvia's picture, and imagine more Mayan's buildings made form gold-like materials and more green and lush environment, like the one I've shown on my picture.

It should give you image of city hidden inside the valley, spread over few huge cliffs. Everything connected by huge bridges that were made over deep chasms, on bottom of which was river.

Spriggan need to have capital checklist:
Mayan - Yup
Hidden - Yup
Shiny - Yup
Easy to die inside? - Yup!

I had a bit of troubles thinking about Spriggan capital for another part of 'An Elf and a Fairy', but Jyn's Image was exactly what I've been looking for.
 
Quickshot0 said:
You see the Spriggan Capital briefly in the anime, its center is a very tall Mayan like pyramid in a forest region. So I'm afraid it's nothing as cool looking as that. ;)
Well it is called the [<Shrouded Stronghold]> Expect it to be considerably more impressive under the facade.
 
Quickshot0 said:
The best method to go about this is probably to work in phases, so that they don't form unfortunate conclusions, or reject the explanation as being to far out there to take seriously.

For instance you could thus first explain the true nature of Yui; this would let them get used to the idea of an artificial being, that's effectively really not different and considered the same, while at the same time getting comfortable with the idea that such beings are treated the exact same as everyone else as well.

You could then explain that Yui comes from an artificial dream world made Aincrad, where she had a function given by the primary 'spirit' controlling that worlds structure.

From there the leap to describing Alfheim as another artificial world, that got materialised in to reality would seem less far fetched. The primary controlling spirit would still thus be an important god in a sense, and their background wouldn't be seen as problematic either. Because well, other artificial beings aren't considered a big deal either. This would also fit with the Fairies wish to return home and their various other strange affectations then.

I guess they'd still suffer a bit of an existential crisis regardless though.
Can they risk sugar coating it like that?
 
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