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Halkegenia Online Thread 7: "Arrun Noir"

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Triggerhappy said:
He'd just have to prove his closet badass credentials by being a fantastic father and providing for all of them, whle continuing to be a conscientious significant other.

Though it does rais a wierd question. I wonder if the Shiori wouldn't have other difficulties if they get pregnant one at a time. Since we seem to be going the route of one mind distributed over three bodies, with maybe some quirks developing due to local variations (i.e. slightly different brain chemistry skewing the 'local processors' going on among the three otherwise perfectly synced bodies.) there's likely to be some serious sensory confusion.

I mean, if the Shiori are that tightly linked as to be considered a single being then they're almost certainly sharring sensory information. What do you do when two thirds of your brain is being assaulted with the impulse that your body is pregnant, and you look down and can see and also feel at the same time that you are not pregnant.

Heck, it might sympathetically mess with the moods of the other two and post partem could be an incredibly stressful bitch for their . . . ad-hoc psyche.
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Yeah, might as well mention this. One of the thoughts I have for the future is a triple mood swing. While it is one mind across three bodies, hormones aren't shared... I think.
 
Dirtnap said:
I think TH meant that he didn't want Sakuya to come across the way she did...
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Well duh but she should it in any way so she can feel so guilty when realizes just how much faith they put in her by swearing to murder her enemies or die in a gruesome magic induced death all for her.

She might even begin realize that maybe Mortimer is the way. He is cause he understands and sands of himself that he do his utmost to make NoNo mistake because his men and have put their lives in his hand so he doesn't have time for weakness.

I mean has sakuya killed a man by flame watched them burn in a cascade of Bellaire as they launch themselves at you for the lives of her and her friends? I don't recall.
 
Vaermina said:
I have to ask, but you do realize the massively negative connotations in having someone who is culturally Japanese call someone an Otaku?
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Unless it's coming from someone also part of that culture. Like a massive history nerd and dedicated net gamer with a crippling leg injury.

Language is more flexible than you are implying.
Triggerhappy said:
Sorry to tripple post, but also, I'm taking votes on how to portray the debate. Either flashback to when things get interesting or high lights of key moments. Let's here for and against.

Also, what issues would you guys like to hear mentioned?
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Highlights.

Issues:Just throwing some out there...

-probably a more general question about the creation and enforcement of laws coming off of one of rio's spiels, seems like the kind of thing to be beaten out.

-The treaty is a big one.

-The war and the rise in conflict.

-their resources, the mobs, the minerals, artifacts etc etc, it's important and Rute has to be there for something.

-Possibly some mention of welfare, medicine and so on. It would be hilarious if this is the first place someone brings up a pregnancy. And if dealt with well that'd be a defining moment for the Fae, the acceptance of their first child as a nascent culture.
 
Nicholai said:
Must ... resist ... puns!

*fails to resist puns*

I have a feeling that Argo and Suisen are going to give the Tristanians a new definition for "playing cat and mouse" .. and the Halkegenian spy services will never be the same!
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Better than Moose and Squirrel?
 
Academic Guardian said:
No real suggestions from here. I have enough of politics IRL. The cynic in me just see this as an event where a few people and a lot of sheep will just make this as some kind of power grab rather a real debate.
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What debate? All I see is a multiparty interview.

*grumble grumble* *mutters something barely intelligible about the thing wearing debate's skin in TV politics*

I would prefer flashback highlights to real-time, since it allows the whole thing to be skipped until it becomes relevant later on*. As a debate, it's fairly useless to readers, since we have such a privileged view of the current situation it is unlikely to provide new information, nor change any of our opinions.

Much more interesting would to instead focus on the reactions of the listeners. How does the... debate alter public perception of important issues?

Actually, scratch that. I'd rather hear about the series of spells they set up to broadcast this thing. That sounds like a pretty important innovation. What other spells have been put to uses they were not intended for? Is there a culture of spell hacking springing up?

* these are not the ulterior motives you are looking for.**
** move along.
 
Shatterdome_Maintenace said:
Hmmmm so the guy Louise thought familiar...........It was Guiche's dad wasn't it? tinted gllasses and a hat.....Ah Simpsons you never cease to make me laugh........Say will karin find out about Louise's Side job? You know if the guy who left as soon as he entered is Guiche's dad......Just curious......Plus if it is guiche's dad then I understand why he left.......somewhat.......I think.....
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"Shitshitshit...Those rumors about a Karin cloning/breeding project were true!"
 
DB_Explorer said:
Well likely a lot of panic... but nothing too bad I think. Sex can cause babies people know this. So the panic is likely to more likely to be like the panic one gets when they find out their girlfriend is pregnant and they we're not 'trying'.

Healers make the medical side of the situation manageable because they got medical downloads and likely that includes knowledge on being a mid-wife. Humans (and Fae as a species that needs to make babies to continue) are designed physically and programed mentally to deal with having kids. Ok the mental part is iffy but still this is actually less of an issue then becoming fae I think.

Now I think most of the repercussions would come longer term as they consider... the kid was born a fae, how will he react when/if we go back. What if we go back and the kid does not! I think long term you may have a split between those trying to get back to the old world and those settling in.

KoKo will likely never be the latter.
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Crap.

This made me think of that Eva Fic where Shinji and Asuka survive for months in Third Impact Wasteland Earth, Have a child, and wake up one morning back at the beginning, but their little girl didn't make the transition with them.

Dem Feels!
 
zero_traveler said:
Crap.

This made me think of that Eva Fic where Shinji and Asuka survive for months in Third Impact Wasteland Earth, Have a child, and wake up one morning back at the beginning, but their little girl didn't make the transition with them.

Dem Feels!
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Believe it was The Second Try.
My second fav Peggy Sue NGE fanfic, and actually completed.
 
dan-heron said:
TH, why is it that there's nobody from Tristain there to see the debate?

I was expecting Henrietta to at least be there in disguise along with other Tristanian reporters
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Maybe watching by moonlight mirror. Hmm, I could add commentary to that effect.
 
One question that I think should be asked is about the intelligent mobs in light of the Pixies. There should be at least one more group of them after all (intelligent mobs not pixies)
 
Sinsystems said:
One question that I think should be asked is about the intelligent mobs in light of the Pixies. There should be at least one more group of them after all (intelligent mobs not pixies)
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I don't think the fae eating dwarves will negotiate.
 
+1 On having someone from tristain there, How halkegenia react to "modern" society is one of the most interesting themes of this story, and it seems to have fallen a bit by the wayside lately.
 
Xexilf said:
+1 On having someone from tristain there, How halkegenia react to "modern" society is one of the most interesting themes of this story, and it seems to have fallen a bit by the wayside lately.
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POV's I'd like to see:

1.Henrietta ( her views on this are important.)

2.Colbert ( would find it all academically fascinating.)

3.prince Wales ( would be interested in his friends culture)

4. Karin (.... because I like her character)
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
POV's I'd like to see:

1.Henrietta ( her views on this are important.)

2.Colbert ( would find it all academically fascinating.)

3.prince Wales ( would be interested in his friends culture)

4. Karin (.... because I like her character)
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Agree, all of that could be interesting. Not saying they should all be shoved into this specific debate, but on the whole.

Henrietta is important, shes also both young and idealistic, but also very loyal to the faith and by position obvously invested in the current order of things.

Colbert is progressive as far as things go, we already saw that he approves of most things the fae do different (see the library scene), together with his interest in technological progress je culd become one of the main fae supporters.

Wales i dont know, he didnt really have enough time in the original story to much fleshed out, but he is turning into a major character here, so that should be interesting to see.

Karin could be very important in any such scenes/debates, for the simple reason so this dosent degreade into some version of humaniy fuck yeah (well more like "modernity"). Now most here would agree that the modern views/methods/societies are in many ways better, but one hsouldnt lose view of the difficulties. Karin, is a lot of things. Powerful, forceful, invested in the current order of things, charismatic in an intimidating way, a firm believer in noble superiority, and her rule of steel... but, she is not a complete fool, and not conservative up to moronic levels like some other nobles seen, neither does she see commoners as nonpersons or unimportant. She would likely be the "opponent" so to say, in many ways if the fae try to modernize society, but unlike the morons and arrogent assholes that make up a chunk of the nobility, she could actually offer reasoned counterarguments, and she is also not so arrogent to be incapable of recognizing when shes wrong, and could thus be possibly swaed by logic. In short, to opponent you want to have for interesting debates.
 
artanis00 said:
What debate? All I see is a multiparty interview.

*grumble grumble* *mutters something barely intelligible about the thing wearing debate's skin in TV politics*

I would prefer flashback highlights to real-time, since it allows the whole thing to be skipped until it becomes relevant later on*. As a debate, it's fairly useless to readers, since we have such a privileged view of the current situation it is unlikely to provide new information, nor change any of our opinions.

Much more interesting would to instead focus on the reactions of the listeners. How does the... debate alter public perception of important issues?

Actually, scratch that. I'd rather hear about the series of spells they set up to broadcast this thing. That sounds like a pretty important innovation. What other spells have been put to uses they were not intended for? Is there a culture of spell hacking springing up?

* these are not the ulterior motives you are looking for.**
** move along.
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I have to agree with this.
 
Crate said:
What if those moonlight mirrors or whatever is being used to broadcast this is also spammed in city/town squares of important settlements?
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There are no important towns/cities other then the 10 capitals they were all abandoned as part of the deal with Tristian.

And none of the Tristian commoners would care.
 
I can think of the best way to counter any questions towards why the Fae are getting involved with the war against Albion: One of the terms of surrender was that all Fae immediately turn themselves over to face trial or leave Tristain. In other words: Die.
 
Infinite Freedo said:
I can think of the best way to counter any questions towards why the Fae are getting involved with the war against Albion: One of the terms of surrender was that all Fae immediately turn themselves over to face trial or leave Tristain. In other words: Die.
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*facepalm*

Leaving Tristain doesn't mean they would die, it just means they would have to do without creature comforts till they can set up new cities elswhere.
 
Anzer'ke said:
...um...sorry?
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17th century peasants only would care about things that directly impact them. And they especially don't have hours of the day to waste watching a pair of people talk about elections.
Well I guess there's no need for TH to devise Regin's reponse.
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Fixed it for you, since Rio as TH has portrayed him wouldn't be able to understand that there's a difference.
 
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