Halkegenia Online Thread 3!

There is also the Dragon of Tarbes if I'm no mistaken that could possibly rival The Steel Toothed in strength...but then they'd have to deal with the Earth Dragon afterwards, or possibly Sayuri does something to atone for her rashness in attacking the town once she learns that some of her sisters have survived thanks to the Count.
 
Note to self, ask Flere or Felix about said Dragon of Tarbes. On the side, a repost of a question, how old are all the characters anyway? Aside from the pixies.
 
And I was just about to suggest Anaconda, though Steel Toothed is quite the awesome name. So the Faeries vs. something that amounts to a Thresher Maw... Operation Dunkirk better be awesome to top this! :eek:
 
LGear said:
And I was just about to suggest Anaconda, though Steel Toothed is quite the awesome name. So the Faeries vs. something that amounts to a Thresher Maw... Operation Dunkirk better be awesome to top this! :eek:
They have bigger problems then you think. Whether it was the inherent toughness of the scales or resistance to ice based magic Tabitha's mini hailstorm did absolutly nothing to the thing. From the sounds of it the only weak points on this thing are the eyes and the inside of the mouth. Koko and other high accuracy people can get the eyes from range but if they want to get the other soft parts they will have to stand in front of that thing while it is attacking them (mouth open), and proceed to shoot and scoot/RUN!
 
queensarrow said:
I was thinking that the Pixies could added to the treaty as the Tenth Faery Race.

Also what is Albion tethered to? It just occured to me that a floating island would likely wander the world.
Come on, you just know that once the Fae gain some good faith during and after Dunkirk that you want Henrietta to get her own tiny detachment of Tiny!Knights act as a last line of defense. I guess it gives a whole new meaning to having something hidden up your sleeve.
 
queensarrow said:
Also what is Albion tethered to? It just occured to me that a floating island would likely wander the world.
It's own mass and drag. Sure it floats, but it's so large and massive that it'll be incredibly difficult to push around even with the strongest winds. It's likely that the weather conditions around Albion are in a state where Albion's position is maintained through an equilibrium of various wind and gravitational forces acting on it.
Triggerhappy said:
Come on, you just know that once the Fae gain some good faith during and after Dunkirk that you want Henrietta to get her own tiny detachment of Tiny!Knights act as a last line of defense. I guess it gives a whole new meaning to having something hidden up your sleeve.
So Henrietta raises forth her arm and goes HIDDEN TECHNIQUE: PIXIE PUNCH!!!!!!!!!! sending a raging pixie from her arm at full speed towards her unfortunate foe?
 
jwolfe said:
They have bigger problems then you think. Whether it was the inherent toughness of the scales or resistance to ice based magic Tabitha's mini hailstorm did absolutly nothing to the thing. From the sounds of it the only weak points on this thing are the eyes and the inside of the mouth. Koko and other high accuracy people can get the eyes from range but if they want to get the other soft parts they will have to stand in front of that thing while it is attacking them (mouth open), and proceed to shoot and scoot/RUN!
Somebody suggested having Klein give Louise a "Faerie back ride" so that she can try throwing the biggest explosion she can muster and being told to aim for the weak point.

"What's it's weak point?" Louise shouted as she clung to the Salamander.

"The mouth! You have to shoot right down its throat!" KoKo shouted back to be heard.

Lhamthanc opened its maw wide, revealing its endless rows of sword teeth vanishing back into the darkness of its gullet.

"HOW IS THAT A WEAK POINT?!"
 
75% Certain said:
Actually, it kind of is: has anyone ever tried to buy a faction leadership position? A corrupt Fae would certainly be an interesting change of pace.
This also brings up another possible point.
Bots.
Full Dive tech would have been around long enough for people to make bots with, so what would happen to a bot character who existed only to farm ingredients/cash for RMT's?
Another thought, Hacked Accounts. What if someone had logged into somebodies account and was in the middle of stripping the character when the transition happened?
You brought 60k people with the transition, which means that you no doubt have your fare share of criminals.
What are they doing?
 
jwolfe said:
Cool name. Well now we now what the first crafting components for Kleins new sword is. After killing the thing all we need is someone who knows dentistry, a few crowbars, some ropes and horses to help pull the thing out. Probably would be a higher quality ingredient if they get the whole tooth to use as opposed to a sawn/cut off portion.
An idea for sure, though I think the Faerie are actually stronger then horses, so those are really needed.
75% Certain said:
Actually, it kind of is: has anyone ever tried to buy a faction leadership position? A corrupt Fae would certainly be an interesting change of pace.
It's an elected position, so you'd have to buy off a lot of the population to make that work. And I suspect a lot of the population wouldn't trust you if you tried to bribe them like that, especially in the Asian regions, where the culture tends to assume gifts have potentially unpleasant strings attached.
2) How large is the population of (sentient!) pixies between them? Considering that a single garden can execute a small-scale military campaign while utilizing only a small percentage of the population, I think it's a safe bet that there are more pixies than pucas at the moment. Am I off-base?
I wouldn't be to sure of that, the number of Puca should be in the high thousands after all. (Somewhere between 5000-10000) Considering further a lot of players aren't all to familiar with Pixie, they clearly aren't a random mob spawn. The unfamiliarity also indicates that the Gardens aren't all to numerous, not very accessible (But that doesn't seem all that likely, as Faeries can fly, so random forest areas shouldn't be an issue), or rather uninteresting.

The not all to numerous seems the most likely though, so that means the amount of nests aren't all to numerous either. Meaning there may only be some thousands of them in total.

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Incidentally Triggerhappy, while old growth forest can be pretty inaccessible at times I suppose. All to often the undergrowth can be rather limited, two factors in particular coming to mind for this. One, the lack of sunlight makes it hard for many plant types to grow (Open sections with sunlight can be different in this though). And secondly, old growth forest tree types tend to be 'unfriendly' to competition, often times altering soil composition a bit to favour them. (Via for instance making it more acidic, or releasing a toxin in to it, stuff like that really)

In summary, Leafa and Klein sure had some pretty bad luck with the forest there. Though now that I think about it, maybe the change that overtook the land changed the nature of the forest a bit... It would make sense to give the Faeries a bit more challenge at times after all.
 
Triggerhappy said:
Come on, you just know that once the Fae gain some good faith during and after Dunkirk that you want Henrietta to get her own tiny detachment of Tiny!Knights act as a last line of defense. I guess it gives a whole new meaning to having something hidden up your sleeve.
That's got to be rather uncomfortable though, can you imagine having a lot of little girls inside your clothing for a last line of defense, I expect them to do much moving, not at all pleasant.
LGear said:
It's own mass and drag. Sure it floats, but it's so large and massive that it'll be incredibly difficult to push around even with the strongest winds. It's likely that the weather conditions around Albion are in a state where Albion's position is maintained through an equilibrium of various wind and gravitational forces acting on it.
If I recall, does Albion do any free-floating? I remember the OTL when Tarbes was attacked they said Albion was something about very close to it?
Flere821 said:
LN canon, 'Dragon's Raiment', something that allows you to fly, not a actual dragon. This fic, I have no idea how TH is playing this.
Ah, oops, almost thought there was a literal dragon, or a giant Earth Dragon somewhere, was there something about an Earth Dragon in another location? I'm sorry my memory's rather fuzzy with all the machines and comic-strips I have to draw.

On a side note, if they do bring out the Dragon's Raiment, is machine gun fire going to do any good against Lhamthanc? I doubt so, SAO/ALO monsters are very much tougher than lightweight dragons.
 
Triggerhappy said:
Even I don't know on this one . . . Maybe in order to cram that much power into a body that size . . . she just wasn't built to last.
Actually you may have already answered that with your "lack of sleep" thing, since it can negatively effect a persons healing. So combine that with her pushing her body past it's limits and you could very well get continually bruising.
 
75% Certain said:
1) How many pixy-spawning gardens there are in Tristain at the moment? We have no reason to believe that there were only the two, but were they relatively common spawn points?
My guess if for the sake of balance, and since they aren't supposed to be a unique feature, there would have been a few in every faction region. On average a Garden will have several hundred members. The Gardens near Tarbes might have been smaller since they were so close together.

2) How large is the population of (sentient!) pixies between them? Considering that a single garden can execute a small-scale military campaign while utilizing only a small percentage of the population, I think it's a safe bet that there are more pixies than pucas at the moment. Am I off-base?
I'm guessing there are at least a few thousand of the little sprites floating around. Estimate each region probably had its own 'Shoot' plus the World Tree itself. The Pixies are mostly self sufficient and will probably end up carving a place for themselves along with their allied mobs so long as they are left in peace. Pfft.
3) How rapidly is the population expanding? Considering that pixies were mobs to be hunted in ALO, they must have spawned at a rate considerably higher than any comparable human breeding population. We also know that they spawned in mass on every full moon[1] in ALO, a process that is likely to continue in Halkegenia. Halk, however, has a second moon; does this mean there will be a second spawn within each lunar cycle?

[1] Considering that all the pixies in ALO would be hunted down in less than a day if they only spawned in small groups once a month, it's a safe assumption that they also spawned as regular mobs in ALO. This is irrelevant in terms of plotting population growth since mobs no longer spawn in Halk, but it does mean that there should be a whole slew of non-affiliated (sentient!) pixies wandering about, which would be a major headache.
No way to tell so far. They've only just had the one full moon. Also, are both moons full at different times? (I guess probably) Hmm, good question! Chances are however that Yggdrasil-sama will ramp up Pixie production, or scale it back, as necessary.
 
@75% once they figure out where they all are and if they can communicate over that much distance, member they are small so it would take messages longer to reach a Garden, even with flying. (not sure how fast a willow wasp rider is)
 
I can't imagine that the folks at Arrun will leave the task to the pixies; it's imperative for all of the gardens to be contacted as soon as possible to prevent any further tragic incidents, and sending Fae would accomplish this much faster.
 
75% Certain said:
'A few' = ~3-5

~300-500 x 9 = ~2700-4500

I think that they'll want in on negotiations before long...
Haha, totally misread what TH wrote.

Let's rework this:

'A few' = ~3-5

'Several hundred' = ~500-900

~3-5 x ~500-900 = ~1500-2700/~2500-4500

~1500-2700/~2500-4500 x 9 = ~13,500-24,300/~22,500-40,500

Average them out...

~18,900-31,500 pixies.

Lower limit of ~13,500, upper limit of ~40,500

Jesus.
 
75% Certain said:
Haha, totally misread what TH wrote.

Let's rework this:

'A few' = ~3-5

'Several hundred' = ~500-900

~3-5 x ~500-900 = ~1500-2700/~2500-4500

~1500-2700/~2500-4500 x 9 = ~13,500-24,300/~22,500-40,500

Average them out...

~18,900-31,500 pixies. Jesus.
Well, they're freaking tiny and usually don't venture beyond their Gardens. Most aren't even interested.
 
Morganite said:
Is there any reason to think that the full moon part wasn't fluff in ALO? And mob spawning just seems too weirdly different from any normal form of population replacement/growth to even compare them.

But spawning as regular mobs doesn't sound to me like it would mean they weren't affiliated with a particular garden. That sort of arrangement isn't really that weird in MMOs.

(Also, with the last part, it sounds more and more like pixies were mobs that smart people didn't hunt in ALO. Attacking social mobs that come in large groups tends to be suicidal unless there's a massive difference in attributes.)
Pixies in SAO canon aren't mentioned as mobs. TH is using them as OCs for his fic, and almost every pixie related issue in this fic is made up by him.
 
Triggerhappy said:
Well, they're freaking tiny and usually don't venture beyond their Gardens. Most aren't even interested.
Well sure, but that means that Cardinal blapped into existence thirty thousand sentient minds, and now the Fae have to figure out what to do with them. You can bet that the nobles will be leery about it!
 
Triggerhappy said:
And again she has no siblings to provide a stabilizing influence while also being much too 'young' to hold the position she has right now. She pretty much wondered into Hinagiku's Garden covered in ash and burns, was taken in, and when it began to appear the human's were a threat, beat the crap out of every other Knight in order to become leader and prosecute her pocket war.
She has a few siblings... she just don't know them yet.
 
Triggerhappy said:
Well, they're freaking tiny and usually don't venture beyond their Gardens. Most aren't even interested.
Would this lead to any population problems anyway? Trying to fit thousands of pixies in a garden might be a bit hard on the resources available right?
 
Triggerhappy said:
Well, they're freaking tiny and usually don't venture beyond their Gardens. Most aren't even interested.
Is it a a few thousand, as you first suggested, or a few tens of thousands, as 75%'s extrapolations speculate?
Triggerhappy said:
I'm guessing there are at least a few thousand of the little sprites floating around.
Though I suppose it doesn't necessarily make a difference outside, if the pixies mostly stay put and Yggdrasil controls their growth rates anyways. (I assume that they come with the infrastructure to support their population, whatever that figure may turn out to be.)

I do wonder what resources they require, or might be interested in trading for.
 
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