Gods of Creation (Riot God Quest)

szymonmolitoris2 · Saturday at 10:55 PM

[] Beastly Advisor
The deity of Nature and Beast Speaks " That is fair … The divine have decided that this is an Age of Civilization. This reason I will offer you my daughters beastly advisors for this age that will advise your Civilizations or civilization. These beastly advisors will look like adorable teddy bears. They will give the best and completely honest advice they can. When the age ends I will them the choice to stay advisors, go back to being beast or travel the world deciding their own path. My daughters you should also no whatever mistake I have made and will make in the future I WILL NEVER FORCE YOUR WILL" After saying his peace the Deity of Nature and Beast goes to just observe his daughter

ComiTurtle · Saturday at 11:01 PM

Hmm... do I want to uplift some Miser Octopi to be sort of in theme... do something on Varanos, or maybe the Edoni again since they are more important but overall less popular than the Kyoniji/Clans. Or ignore the prompt and work on another ecosystem on Ohcausia to continue to set it up for future inhabitants?

Personally I think space travel becoming less easy/not possible and thus the various connecting points being used as the crossroads of all things is a good and more fun change for the setting.

dgr11897 · Saturday at 11:05 PM

ComiTurtle said:
Personally I think space travel becoming less easy/not possible and thus the various connecting points being used as the crossroads of all things is a good and more fun change for the setting.

Fair enough. Might want to cleave more of the paths open though.

Tzaphquiel · Saturday at 11:53 PM

The Winnower just had to be provoked with that wretched Necromantic Taint act. Its plot with the three of Law continues unimpeded.

I have grown weary of it all. In fact, I hope that the Guardian will finally devour all 9 Concepts in the next Era.

If it comes to pass, Apate will hopefully steer clear of the Guardian. She would still have the purpose of advancing her own interests.

Hopefully, Apate has been doing as she intended, now back in the universe and remaining in the shadows, patiently biding her time and growing in power as she spins her intrigues anew.

fictionfan · Sunday at 12:26 AM

[]Get rid of the Winnower and despair.

We should have done it before. It was a mistake to make them in the first place. Just stop pussyfooting around with indirect stuff and just do it.

Andre Chaos · Sunday at 12:38 AM

fictionfan said:
Get rid of the Winnower and despair

"Methinks this experiment will have dire consequences for the very fabric of reality. Because of how it works right now. Not that I shall refrain from pursuing it, but I am weary of shattering things and causing upheaval again. Therefore, I have resolved to visit the world we have fashioned and impart some of my wisdom to its inhabitants."

Redikai · Sunday at 1:15 AM

Honestly, the whole world feels rotten. Ascension is a million times too easy, the cosmic beings just suck (not even in an existential way), and it really doesn't seem like we can do anything to make things better.

So I say we just follow the sacred act of cutting and turn our cosmic level beings from an are to a were. As in all of them. Not just the 9. Because we really might as well just clean the whole slate. Something like:

[] Then There Was Nothing
The gods have looked upon the world that they built and said it was bad. So they killed every cosmic being they had created, tearing their bodies into unrecoverable shreds and leaving their remains to rot. They left that races of the world, made at the Cosmic level or not, alone.

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It's a bit extreme, but really, the quest just doesn't feel fun right now and I think we need something extreme.

Edit: Would probably add something about how their cosmic machinations are in the way of civilization to try and stay on theme but it's a stretch. Also hypocritical, but whatever.

Mannan · Sunday at 1:20 AM

ShieldCrown said:
Welp, my Boi is beginning an ascension of his own I guess.

…He might pull a Fenrir later.

The Guardian is in a constant state of ascension.

Dinfinity said:
this sentence ends abruptly

also my plan is to start cleaning out the sand.

Fixed.

Also the Young God is moving to clean the sand as one of its first activities. Its just that it is a lot and the curses actively try to resist being purged so it takes a while.

szymonmolitoris2 said:
[] Beastly Advisor
The deity of Nature and Beast Speaks " That is fair … The divine have decided that this is an Age of Civilization. This reason I will offer you my daughters beastly advisors for this age that will advise your Civilizations or civilization. These beastly advisors will look like adorable teddy bears. They will give the best and completely honest advice they can. When the age ends I will them the choice to stay advisors, go back to being beast or travel the world deciding their own path. My daughters you should also no whatever mistake I have made and will make in the future I WILL NEVER FORCE YOUR WILL" After saying his peace the Deity of Nature and Beast goes to just observe his daughter

Divine as it is essentially creating a magical sapient species.

fictionfan said:
[]Get rid of the Winnower and despair.

We should have done it before. It was a mistake to make them in the first place. Just stop pussyfooting around with indirect stuff and just do it.

Cosmic

Redikai said:
[] Then There Was Nothing
The gods have looked upon the world that they built and said it was bad. So they killed every cosmic being they had created, tearing their bodies into unrecoverable shreds and leaving their remains to rot. They left that races of the world, made at the Cosmic level or not, alone.

Cosmic

dgr11897 · Sunday at 1:22 AM

Redikai said:
It's a bit extreme, but really, the quest just doesn't feel fun right now and I think we need something extreme.

I somewhat agree, but there is a problem. They will fight back. They will resist the ending, all of them. The battle will be fierce, and the mortals will likely have no one to shield them.

Donald Darf · Sunday at 1:23 AM

Quick question just to know if I should support the Cosmic being slaughter thing
Would any members of the T.A. family count as cosmic and thus be put down?

Andre Chaos · Sunday at 1:28 AM

dgr11897 said:
and the mortals will likely have no one to shield them

It won't be a problem if they all die too!

[] Omnicide

Time for the great cleansing. Kill every mortal living thing in the universe to make the canvas blank again. It is time to start everything from the very beginning again. Only dead bodies and rotting ruins of great civilizations remain. Curtain falls - silence.

Redikai · Sunday at 1:31 AM

dgr11897 said:
I somewhat agree, but there is a problem. They will fight back. They will resist the ending, all of them. The battle will be fierce, and the mortals will likely have no one to shield them.

Yeah, it'll be rough and, honestly, I'm not even sure we'll succeed. Maybe if we had multiple Cosmic acts aiding the offensive we could be more sure. But even if we lose, I just want things to change for the hopefully better.

Donald Darf said:
Quick question just to know if I should support the Cosmic being slaughter thing
Would any members of the T.A. family count as cosmic and thus be put down?

They shouldn't. I meant cosmic in the literal Cosmic Act way and none of them are that, I don't think.

Andre Chaos said:
[] Omnicide

Time for the great cleansing. Kill every mortal living thing in the universe to make the canvas blank again. It is time to start everything from the very beginning again. Only dead bodies and rotting ruins of great civilizations remain. Silence.

It really says something that I read that act and thought, "Yeah, I'd support that."

I feel like I'm being overly negative. Sorry.

dgr11897 · Sunday at 1:35 AM

[] The End
Opalesence is a realm at the beginning, so is this the Realm of the End. Entropy, decay, the inevitability of an end in any system where the end is a state that can be reached. It is both its own separate realm and a Conceptual, with its concept being, well, the End of Everything. It is empowered/programmed to seek out the death of all conceptuals, then itself. The slate is to be wiped clean, and this will be the instrument. Either the conceptuals will unite and prove their worth through unity, cleverness, guile, and strength of arms, or they will die. Either way the Guardian, first sun, and the Beach are to be spared.

Donald Darf · Sunday at 1:35 AM

Redikai said:
They shouldn't. I meant cosmic in the literal Cosmic Act way and none of them are that, I don't think.

Augustus did go on a epic quest that one time through the universe, the sea of despair, and the spirit realm, then the crystal city, ending with him learning the true name of something (I forgot) and countering the influence of Despair in a way
And he is the most talented wizard in the setting, which also makes me fear he is a bit too close to cosmic now to be safe

Andre Chaos · Sunday at 1:35 AM

Redikai said:
Sorry.

I am not against erasing things and starting creation anew. It could be an interesting turn of events. Sometimes destruction is needed to create something better. Maybe we really should do something so radical, which never been done before. 🤷‍♂️

dgr11897 · Sunday at 1:37 AM

Andre Chaos said:
I am not against erasing things and starting creation anew. It could be an interesting turn of events. Sometimes destruction is needed to create something better. Maybe we really should do something so radical, which never been done before. 🤷‍♂️

If we had to do something like this I think we should do it not directly, but rather through a designed intermediary. I may actually revise My Endings idea a little. The inevitable destruction of all, in turn to be reborn. All civilization shall be collected and used to build the new Toraloduros, and the species and conceptuals consumed and rendered down to raw potential for new ones to arise.

Edit: all this to say, I am in fact on board with wiping the slate clean, and I believe the best way to not be any singular act but a multiple together, if this is going to work we'll need to do a lot of work, lest this turn from a quick purge to a long protracted war. On the Subject of the T.A. Family I am fine with them surviving, though we may want to cleanse their memories of what we're about to do, or else we lay the seeds of our own destruction, because I don't think they'd understand the necessity of the project.

Redikai · Sunday at 1:45 AM

dgr11897 said:
[] The End

I guess it's not that different to have something do it for us. They'll probably want to kill us too though. Based on how everything else has gone.

I do like the revised idea of everything being collected to create a new Toraloduros though. I just think we probably should do it ourselves. Although maybe we'll get a discount if we use Opalesense as a base. Assuming we can even get enough votes to wipe the slate clean.

dgr11897 · Sunday at 1:47 AM

Redikai said:
I guess it's not that different to have something do it for us. They'll probably want to kill us too though. Based on how everything else has gone.

I do like the revised idea of everything being collected to create a new Toraloduros though. I just think we probably should do it ourselves. Although maybe we'll get a discount if we use Opalesense as a base. Assuming we can even get enough votes to wipe the slate clean.

I will say I think the best plan is to have multiple actions pushing towards wiping the slate clean. We're more likely to be successful if we act with both ourselves along multiple vectors and through intermediaries who can do mop up work in addition to helping us take down the main targets.

Also if we do wipe the slate clean we may want to write out some rules for ourselves to abide by in the new cycle of creation. Specifically, no more conceptuals at the least, maybe also no more corruptive elements too, that went wrong too many times. We should also maybe try to lean further towards making things for the good of mortals, we made far to many monsters and too few heroes, in a way that I feel is just a symptom of a larger issue that started with the creation of despair. I feel like people have leaned so hard towards trying to maintain/create a balance that never really has existed well and it has hurt our creation. A cycle of rampant creation and overcorrection that has wrought destruction across our creation.

Tzaphquiel · Sunday at 1:49 AM

Unfortunately, Cosmic acts require 20 votes without the theme boost.

Some means of lowering the cost would need to be included.

I just want the slate wiped clean, all of the Concepts destroyed.

dgr11897 · Sunday at 1:51 AM

Tzaphquiel said:
Unfortunately, Cosmic acts require 20 votes without the theme boost.

Some means of lowering the cost would need to be included.

Weaponization of some part of our creation is necessary because of that yeah.
Perhaps we lay the seeds of the annihilation in the Civilizations? Have them forge the engines that will destroy the Concepts, and mayhaps also the Mortals.
Or maybe we turn the Gaia seeds upon them, alter their programming, transform them so they unleash weapons tailored to annihilate each concept.

Mannan · Sunday at 1:52 AM

dgr11897 said:
Also if we do wipe the slate clean we may want to write out some rules for ourselves to abide by in the new cycle of creation. Specifically, no more conceptuals at the least, maybe also no more corruptive elements too, that went wrong too many times. We should also maybe try to lean further towards making things for the good of mortals, we made far to many monsters and too few heroes, in a way that I feel is just a symptom of a larger issue that started with the creation of despair. I feel like people have leaned so hard towards trying to maintain/create a balance that never really has existed well and it has hurt our creation. A cycle of rampant creation and overcorrection that has wrought destruction across our creation

Yeah this is a reoccurring trend.

Players make an act that has unintended or I guess actually intended negative consequences, they over correct and cause yet more issues or try to be clever and end up not solving the issue at all and then begin the cycle again. Not helped by the general lack of coordination for acts.

I think several others have already pointed that out but it never amounts to much.

dgr11897 · Sunday at 1:57 AM

If we decide we want conceptuals around, I have a few ideas. My first is that we should focus less on emotions and desires, and more on natural patterns and also above all else on strengthening mortals and the universe as a whole.
Survival. Spirals. Light. Preservation. Universal Stability. The Canvas. The elementals would also be excellent forces to elevate to new Conceptuals.
In short, things with overarching power, but focused solely on "Good" and avoiding messing with Evolution too much because let's be honest those two have been a mistake.

Side note once we purge the current batch we should see about unwinding the imprisoning law we created to manage them. It is a stopgap solution at best.

Mannan said:
Yeah this is a reoccurring trend.

Players make an act that has unintended or I guess actually intended negative consequences, they over correct and cause yet more issues or try to be clever and end up not solving the issue at all and then begin the cycle.

I think several others have already pointed that out but it never amounts to much.

I will say I think the idea of making things like Despair just to maintain a "Balance" and then being surprised when bad things happen is kind of frustrating to me. I understand the thematic significance but also it ends up causing what were basically pillars of reality, in the conceptuals, to grind against each other and render everything down.

Side note, Mannan, if enough of us agree can we switch the theme of this Era to "Annihilation"?

Redikai · Sunday at 1:57 AM

Tzaphquiel said:
Unfortunately, Cosmic acts require 20 votes without the theme boost.

Some means of lowering the cost would need to be included.

I just want the slate wiped clean, all of the Concepts destroyed.

Yeah, dgr's would probably get a discount from modifying something that exists. Then There Was Nothing I'm not sure how I could make work. Maybe something about invoking the Law of Swords?

dgr11897 said:
Perhaps we lay the seeds of the annihilation in the Civilizations? Have them forge the engines that will destroy the Concepts, and mayhaps also the Mortals.

That's smart. Spread an enlightenment or something that will inspire people to join together and create a heavenly machine. Whatever they think it will do, they'll obviously be wrong, because it will actually just destroy them.

dgr11897 · Sunday at 1:59 AM

Redikai said:
Yeah, dgr's would probably get a discount from modifying something that exists. Then There Was Nothing I'm not sure how I could make work. Maybe something about invoking the Law of Swords?

Here's another pitch from me. What if we had the mortals delve into the domains, like dungeons, and gaining strength that will, in the end, be used to annihilate the Conceptuals at the heart of the domains. In the process the mortals could also be killed if we wanted.

Mannan · Sunday at 2:00 AM

dgr11897 said:
Side note, Mannan, if enough of us agree can we switch the theme of this Era to "Annihilation"?

No. Themes for an era is what I decide.

Though funnily enough an idea I had for the next Era would be Destruction.

The initial plan was Heroes and Monsters, Growth, Civilization and then Destruction.

To signify the founders of Civilization, their growth, their zenith, and then their end.

Though that hasn't been set in stone yet. Depends on what this era brings.

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